ITT we make Australians jealous

ITT we make Australians jealous

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Fuck you liberal cuck

>tasmania, australia
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the nbn was a fucking failure by all measures

Honestly, I've seen worse from Australians.

In fact for australia your upload is downright great.

Yup, especially considering they were copying Verizon FiOS in the US for the FTTH rollout, but with FTTN they've fucked themselves for at least a decade, probably longer.

You are just jealous you don't have as many spiders as us.

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>w-well its still f-fast
>900mbs is overkill anyways
>NBN is super f-fast

Actually the NBN was not the problem, the problem was you have blown fiber running from a carrier node directly into a telephone pillar, and then piggybacked over copper cable from pillars to housing. That was all Telstra and Turnbull not NBN. Also you lose signal because the copper is 65 years old, covered in acidic vaseline waterproofing agents and covering distances too great for copper to maintain properly.

I'm an NBN technician btw, ask me anything and I'll try to answer without hijacking thread too much.

Any chance a change in government would allow you guys to switch back to proper FTTH?

We are going to have to invest the money eventually, I don't see why we are doing the stop-gap FTTN when FTTH is obviously what is going to be needed long term.

My wifi speeds are limited by my client device, my Galaxy Note5 maxes out around 300-400mbps over the air.

Theres already a plan in the works for FTTP in the next 10 years, but expect HTC cable in the meantime as a stopgap measure.

What a shit show. It'll be 2030 by the time I can get even close to what OP has.

FiOS hasn't upgraded my area to gigabit yet, hoping it happens soon though. I'm paying almost $145 a month for 150/150mbps but they only charge gigabit areas $70 a month. Hurry the fuck up verizon.

at least it's free, i guess...

>faster than 59% of LV
not only is it free, it's better than the majority of people in your country.

because the majority lives in bumfuck nowhere and rely on mobile carriers for internet and most places don't have 4g, previous dorm had a stable 100Mb/s up and down

>paying almost $145 a month for 150/150mbps but they only charge gigabit areas $70 a month

Yeah I went from $155 with 150/150mbps + TV + phone to like $100 a month with 1gigabit + TV + phone.

Yeah, have fun using your 50GB download allowances fucktards I'm happy downloading at 5MB/s for the whole month if I like.

Ausfag here. I'm still trying to get over the fucking heatwave at the start of the year. I'll get to your complaint when your .png finishes rendering here.

we hit 35c this week and I thought that was hot, fuck that shit though.

you guys make living in a shithole seem not that bad, also, wtf is up with the data caps? i pay like 10 jewros for an unlimited data plan for my phone and get all the 4g i could ever need

lol? Verizon has never had a data cap.

Here is just the last 30 days on my desktop. There are 3 other laptops, and 3 other desktops that are also used daily by others in the house, so this is probably half of our total monthly data use.

We probably go 1.5-3TB a month every month.

In the US it just depends where you live, Verizon FiOS doesn't have any data caps at all however.

Comcast is the only big ISP I know which has data caps, and in this area they don't enforce it anyway.

As for LTE and 4G data, most cell providers these days offer unlimited LTE data plans, but they slow you down to 3G speeds after like 20-25GB in a month.

It's not the maximum that kills you. It's the minimum, when it's five in the morning and it's still 36 degrees.

>1gbps down and up
>50GB download allowances
are you retarded?

Paying 20€ from unlimited 150mbps + unlimited calls + text messages
Also have unlimited 1gig fiber at home and it costs 49,90€.
Feels good to be finntard.

>Feels good to be finntard.
unless you live in 90% of the rest of finland, in which case get fucked and enjoy your VDSL

finland by the average speed is 10th globally, so it's not that bad, take a look at this akamai.com/us/en/multimedia/documents/state-of-the-internet/akamai-state-of-the-internet-report-q1-2016.pdf
a bunch of mildly interesting statistics

Yeah I know, later in the year it'll get hot here too.

Another month or two and we'll be having 30-35c minimums with 70%+ humidity.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Finland is certainly doing better than most countries. But it's like the OP, sure 1gbps is available to some people, but it's not like most of the country has access to speeds that fast, only those in the cities, or those lucky enough to live close to a fiber node.

It's a known fact throttling is used on your "unlimited" plans

This throttling?

yeah, i get that, that's why the US average is not that impressive, even though they have a growing fiber network going on

The NBN was an ill conceived idea that was always going to fail

You can either have

1) The least dense housing on the planet where everyone lives in a detached house at least 20m apart from everyone else in cities that sprawl for millions of square kilometres

Or

2) Fast internet

The 2 options are mutually exclusive

You choose

No they're not. You just have to bite the bullet and pay for underground fiber during the construction phase. If you mandate by law that every new property MUST have fiber conduit laid ready to be hooked up to a node, it would make things WAYYY easier, but you guys fucked up, and fucked up hard.

A node serves 400 houses. The farthest you will be from the node is about 1km.

Copper will deliver sufficient speeds over 1km... and it may actually get completed by 2020 rather that dreamboat Rudds plan of FTTH which saw about 5 suburbs rolled out on each city in the first 5 years.

The FTTN is designed to be a backbone to a future FTTH installation... which will take 50 years to roll out if people where being honest about it.

Yeah, and while the government and the schools keep pushing the 'science and technology' and 'new economy' agenda, the reality is that most of the population doesn't give a fuck about anything outside of the local pub anyway.

This fucking country should've never been colonised.

New subdivisions are all being installed with FTTH.

This isnt about them. Its about the 14 million existing homes and how to best improve thier internet in a timely manner

>A node serves 400 houses
What the fuck. How many GPON links per node?
Each GPON is 2.44gbps down and 1.2gbps up.

Verizon FiOS in the US does 1:8 or 1:4 splits.

>New subdivisions are all being installed with FTTH.
got any sources on that?

kB/s makes me feel better about my shit internet

kek

only options on the desktop site are mbps or kbps

Man fuck England

Yeah I really don't understand why england's internet is so shit, you're a tiny island with massive population density. It wouldn't be hard to get 60% of the nation hooked up with FTTH in 10 years.

Yet for some reason most of the country still seems to be on DSL or shitty cable providers. The only people with fiber are a few lucky pricks in London proper, or one of the few fiber projects elsewhere in the country.

opticomm.net.au/about-opticomm/our-communities/

Most of the land developers outsource comms to a few big players. Its a big selling point in new suburbs.

But you have to live beyond the black stump

Oh yeah, I knew there were some subdivisions that were doing it on their own. But it should be mandated by LAW for all new construction, and it should have been mandated back in 2010.

Fiber is not as rare as you think, live an hour outside London and my area has had it for a while. Just shit speeds idk why

>Just shit speeds idk why
then it's probably not fiber, or if it is, then it's so badly provisioned that it shouldn't label itself as fiber.

Unless you're getting 50/50mbps or more, it might as well be DSL or cable.

Don't mock the aussie, you fucking cunt.

Is it fiber to the curb/house or is it just a fiber back bone?

>get this speed in australia
>obscure ISP with only a handful of customers
>isps customer support is one guy
>spends most of his time viewing everyone's browsing history

The sad reality for all you porn sucking net nerds is that the uptake in NBN ready suburbs is less than 50% and a good proportion of those dont even use the full potential of the line.

Its a service that wasnt needed in most cases. Anyone suggesting otherwise just wants the whole population to subsidize thier internerd

What are you gonna do about it? Stutter step in online games because your ping is so shit?

Fuck off idiot you can't even watch a YouTube video without it freezing if you don't have NBN in this fucking shit hole

What i posted is the truth m8

>~9750 miles
>still gets almost 300mbps

fuck this gay earth.

I honestly couldn't tell you

You're retarded. It's not about what people are doing TODAY, we're supposed to be building nationwide infrastructure to support a growing online economy that will only become more and more important as time goes on. The internet isn't going anywhere, and shooting ourselves in the foot with this slow FTTN rollout isn't helping.

Well what speeds are they delivering?

If it's anything under 20mbps it's probably just backbone.

I'm happy with my download for 1 person with a new copper line, upload could be better but oh well, I don't see a point in like massive download speeds like how often do you download 100gb files

It's 100% fiber.

>how often do you download 100gb files

at least once or twice a week on average for me

So you have an ONT (optical network terminal) installed on your property? This converts the fiber into ethernet (or Coax) for use inside your home.

Average for fibre is probably around 40mbps, one company offers speeds up to 300mbps but is not widely available

TL;DR

>my pronz is slow, please susidise my internet average australia

It has nothing to do about porn your moron, if you think the internet is for porn I assume it's simply because you live in a country where doing anything but watching videos is basically pointless because of your slow speeds and massive ping times.
How about upload speeds? The classic tell-tale way to see if it's fiber is almost always upload speed. In the US most fiber providers give full symmetric speeds
(as seen here )

>mfw Australian with internet that is twice as fast

Majority of people dont care for fast internet beyond netflix.

Why should they pay for uber speeds for the few percent that care?

lol, local networks don't count.

I doubt your undersea fiber cables even have the bandwidth to deal with 1gbps+ from a single connection.
Because if you dont your country will be left behind in the next 25-50 years.
In the US if you want to be a big youtuber or streamer, you just need to live somewhere with decent internet and have a decent computer. That simply can't happen in AUS because 99% of people couldn't watch the stream, and you probably couldn't afford the upload speed required to stream anyway.

tldr it stifles innovation, especially in the long term.

Correct

Sounds like they're just being cheap fucks then.

They probably only installed BPON ONTs which is why you're limited to like 40mbps.

The 300mbps provider is probably using GPON.

You are selling a dream (that suits your desires) to people who arent interested. Hence the take up rates of NBN.

It was a smart decision to switch to FTTN even though it triggered your autism and apparently smashed your dream

This is the UK's fastest Internet and it apparently only offers 20mbps up

>It was a smart decision to switch to FTTN
Yeah that's why they have plans to move back to FTTH in the next decade, because FTTN was suuuuch a good idea.
lol that's kinda sad. Around here i can get residential 2gbps for $149.99 a month, but since I only have 1gbps NICs in my network, it would be pointless to have over 1gbps.

This country is so behind in so many areas

You are a knob. FTTH is a long term plan (dream). The rates they were rolling it out was seeing a couple of suburbs each year reaching completion. If you knew the first thing about the logistics of hitting every house with a fibre you would be embarrased at your continual demanding oubursts on the internet.

FTTN is an achievable goal and will give everyone consistent speeds in an achievable timeframe... and act as a backbone to any future lower heirachy rollouts. But dont be expecting them to be rapid. May not even happen in your lifetime if you are in an old suburb.

Today I finally got NBN, 12Mbits down, 1Mbit up. It's pretty fucking dank.

Just look at this shit man
Noice
Kinda wanna get the 100/40 plan for the fuck of it.

Booo hooo it costs money.

Fuck off with your excuses. Pay the fucking money now and you save 10 fold in the long term.

There is no real reason not to do FTTH if you can.

FTTH was ~$5,000 per house, FTTN is about $2100 per house.
So you save 50% in upfront costs but in 20 years when you have to upgrade it anyway you'll be spending at LEAST that much to upgrade, and probably far more. Where as if you did FTTH to begin with, you just have to upgrade the nodes, and maybe upgrade customer ONTs.


You're doing FTTN G-PON, while the US is working on FTTH NG-PON2 by mid 2020s. Which can provide 40gbps down and 10gbps up. Which would allow for 5 or 10gbps residential service by the mid 2020s.


Even if your entire country isn't FTTH, you should at least get your major cities wired up.

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check if the 1gbps upgrade is available in your area, shit's cash.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

fuck

TL;DR

>please susidise my internet speedz

...or i may cry like a child on the internet

Yes it costs money, so does any vital infrastructure. If you want to fuck yourselves out of any chance of being a contributor to the greater internet community, by all means, you're already on the right track, keep going.

It says it is, I gotta update my contract

The average citizen doesnt care for the dream you are promising. They just want online banking and netflix

Thats the long and short of it.

>colonised

they way you aussies throw that word around makes the commonwealth laugh at you behind your back.

Australia wasn't a colony. it was a shithole where we sent shitheads we didn't want around us or our children.

>and netflix
which unless you're FTTH you can't even get 1080p, let alone 4k netflix.

Wait, how many of you murricans have data caps?

You can try the "i'm moving" trick where you enter the same address you currently live it.

Sometimes it lets you avoid the ETF and get new customer pricing.

I ended up calling in, having them switch me to an internet only deal for 1gbps at 124.99 a month, then the next week I went online and upgraded myself to a triple play with TV + Phone (which aren't even plugged in) and 1gbps internet for $94.99 a month. Cheapest way for me to get gigabit as an existing customer without fucking around with canceling and coming back as a new customer or using wife/girlfriends name for a new account.

They dont care for either. They just want to watch southpark or the new bond film. 480 is plenty

I don't believe any residential internet in the US that gets 1gbps download speeds has a data cap. Even the ISPs that do have data caps (comcast) on their 1gbps or 2gbps plans, they don't have a data cap at all. It wouldn't make sense to cap data on a connection that fast.

No they want better, they just don't know it because they've never had access to internet fast enough to deliver it.

It's almost the opposite here, for mobile at lease.
"A WHOPPING HUEG 1.5GB OF DATA ON YOUR 4G PHONE!!!1!1!"
And if you leave your phone downloading something for five seconds you can burn your entire plan.

For the US most wireless data plans are now unlimited, but it's around 20-25GB of 4G data, and then it switches to 3G speeds that are unlimited.

Nah. You want better... and you want the average population to subsidise it for you.