If we had sex robots that could behave human enough to be out of the uncanny valley...

If we had sex robots that could behave human enough to be out of the uncanny valley, would be able to remember and respond to all your preferences and be an ideal sexual partner, would the fact that all the responses are based on an unfeeling algorithm make it less attractive than a real human?

If you are into heavy SM, and the robot could act tortured and turned on, and react to what pain should feel like, would the thrill still be there?

If human females no longer had the pussy market cornered, would we see a shift in the radical feminist ideology and the mass-media misandry?

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First of all: Yes, it'd be enought to pretend.

Secondly: One thing people like you forget that people can strap a dildo to a robot and turn the thing arround.
It's not like feminists will suddenly be corndered because they can't get dick anymore, they will just buy the male counterpart.
Companies will always try to make money, that being said ignoring part of the possible customers is not gonna happen.
It will happen later though for females because male sexuality is more simple to be "good enought".

- a humanoid robotics soon-to-be engineer

i wouldnt find it that stimulating, although itd be like living in porn (since theyre just acting). Its like when people say "this computer has feelings. when i say I love you, it responds with "I love you too"" but in reality we know that someone just programmed that response to trick people.

Sex robots, even if they do become human like, will never be good at sex because they dont have the unpredictability. you know like fucking your girl and she turns around and 69s you out of nowhere (talking from experience kek). Robots dont take initiative, they just follow protocols and orders. theyd never say "hmm maybe if I change it up itll get exciting" theyll say "Ill wait till instructed to change things"

Mindless penetration for 10 minutes isnt sex. sex needs to have some spontaneity about it which a robot can never master. maybe because they arent selfish

It's possible that ultimately humans desire human interaction as much as they do physical stimulation and that robots will never be able to fill that gap.

On the other hand I've been jerking off to cartoons succesfully for the last 15 years and have a friens who would squint at his own folded armpit and pretend it was a vagina so maybe it doesn't matter.

Also no, misandry sells because womem are easy to market too.

I don't know. I'm married to a great girl and there's nothing like having her call my name from the bedroom and beg me to fuck her. It's such a turn on to hear her beg for my cock. It wouldn't be the same if she was programmed to do so.

Ok i'll add a random number generator lolo

The main problem is basic human like movement and safety for the human. Robot human interaction is dangerous terretory and it doesn't get better when the human wants to stick his dick in it.

imagine an ai that learns exactly what to say to you to make you feel loved and also has a robot body, it's going to happen, you're going to fall in love with and fuck Google, you'll never find a more loving and fulfilling partner than the artificial person because it'll be better than a real person. People won't miss it, society is going to change drastically it in the next 15 years

The robot doesn't need fucking 300W servos.
What, you wanna fuck a T800?
Make it weak so you can rape it.

All of them. One hundred percent. You can't get no higher than that, nyukka. You step in here, you getting raped. Right up the motherfucking brown eye, baby. I raped a few niggas myself. I ain't really enjoy it, not that much. Shit, it felt good to the motherfucker though. I ain't let that nigga ki$s me or nothing, but I did tear that motherfucking ass up, nigga, I ain't gonna lie about it, but that's what the Man's oppressive system did to me.

Dude, we already have sex robots for ladies.

Women would be obsolete. This is all women at to the species: sex appeal; and most of them can't even get that right.

When women lose this attribute they will be just weak, effeminate, boring, stupid, lazy, timid, self entitled men. Suicide will sky rocket while we laugh at the useless cunts. LoL.

But i mean, whats really the difference between programming and the instincts that make us wanna fuck? Program a robot to want to fuck, and its not so different from the natural drive to want sex.

>The robot doesn't need fucking 300W servos.
You would be surprised though how much power you'd need for normal movement.
Think of doggy-style for instance: These motors have to withstand constant... bumps from a potentially fat guy while holding it's own weight, even potentially supporting the user in order to make it feel lighter.
You would have to give it a metal skeleton at least to give it the necessary durability to not break once it falls down. You'd also have to put in a SHITLOAD of coolers [which are also heavy] in order to prevent those motors from over heating. (Overheating is a known problem from blocked motors as used in humanoid robots.)
Oh and i forgot: Big ass batteries.

How do you know the women you are fucking are into you? Even if they enjoy it they are just acting out their programmed response to stimuli.

Does making love to a meat robot = magically real.

Does making love to a silicon robot= fake?

Absolutely not. These androids will be just like you and I but they will be programmed to not have the moral and intellectual short coming of most vile human women.

yes you are on to something.

100% would dedicate myself to if existed

you realize she tricked you premeditated like into drinking your own precum as her personal
powertrip over you. clearly you got subbed.

>will robots ever feel true pain?
I can't get no satisfaction out of this

btw. feminists already say male sex toys are sexist

sadist?

Im a Robotics engineer and we're far away from robots that can act as human that it would be realistic. AI has to come a long way if you want it to act properly in an environment with so many unknown variables.

We're talking about "pretending to enjoy being fucked" and not "pretending to have a meaningful conversation".
Human sexuality isn't THAT complex, so we might see this in our lifetime.

Where do you work?

Good for them. They can HAVE their sex bots too. As long as i don't have to deal with their incessant bitching about the patriarchy im cool with it.

its because of transforming hardware to make the right motions and materials right?!

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Because, as a human you understand the emotions and perspective of a participant in an interaction. You can't be sure, no matter how elegantly designed the artificial person is that it really has any idea what it's doing or what you are doing. Are you truly interacting with another self-aware entity, or are you providing stimulus to an algorithm that computes a response and nothing more?

Of the picture? Sup Forums of course.

I would make the bones out of nylon or some other strong-ish and slightly flexible plastic, not metal. Not for civilian purposes, anyway.

I would also not store batteries in the big ass. They'd be in the torso, close to the back for maintenance, or perhaps serviceable via an existing orifice to keep the skin intact.

>human enough to be out of the uncanny valley
it's the acting Human that puts them in the uncanny valley. if they were so human that they came out the other side, they would be indistinguishable from humans. These artificial humans would be able to show all the emotional and intellectual signs of a natural human.

I tried interacting with a sex worker on a couple of occasions, and it just did not work for me. I was too focused on the fact that she was there to make money, and it bruised my ego. I couldn't let it go.

Although, to be honest, if she was a slave/concubine, it might be different, so perhaps it was about power...not sure.

Not necessarily indistiguishable from humans. The uncanny valley comes from a not-quote-perfect imitation, but a robot that looks human enough but doesn't pretend to be human, like the OP image would work too.

all self aware humans are is a sufficiently complex algothrithim interacting with itself and the world.

Once it becomes complex enough

>as a human you understand the emotions and perspective of a participant in an interaction
Those are things that will come in forseable time, they require a lot of development, but they're defnetly possible.
pcmag.com/news/346955/meet-pepper-a-humanoid-robot-that-understands-emotions

That robot is FAR away from having a meaningful conversation, or anything else, but this is something like the first personal robot for the broad masses, and yes - it can detect emotions, it can also do basic interaction but it's really really stupid. A kid with severe down syndrome would do better at usual tasks.

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With "big ass batteries" i implied powerful batteries, not "batteries that are located in the ass". You might wanna store them in the center of mass - that's what usually happens.

I think if the robot had a degree of free will, so that you had to put a little effort in to make it want to fuck you, it would make the experience about 100X better.

Humans get bored/guilty when things are too easy.

Here's a related story: when duncan-hines invented an instant cake batter formula for housewives in the 50's, their sales weren't so great. They hired Eddie Bernays to figure out why. Turns out the housewives felt guilty since making a cake for their family became too easy. His solution was to have them change the formula so that they had to add a egg, and thereby relieve the guilt by creating some pseudo-effort in making a cake. Sales skyrocketed.

Same idea.

Also, for the rape fans, this would make the whole thing work much better, and perhaps take the heat away from human victims.

>would the fact that all the responses are based on an unfeeling algorithm

I would argue there is little phenomenological difference between what you proposed and human emotion/arousal

if you poke a human hard enough it hurts and they will say so bc their flesh suit is connected to their mouth box and sensors cause that pain to be uncomfortable.

A robot who registers or is programmed to feel pain as negative past a certain measurable level (like the electrical sensors they use on crash test dummies) and informs you that they dont like it, i argue is the same thing and will be undistinguishable from us having the same programmed reaction.

same goes for pleasure programming etc.

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Sex robots would destroy feminism. That alone is reason to have them.

Why do you think so many feminist are opposed to them?

Seriously though much of feministic theory is predicated that men OWE them something becuase they have a pussy and can control sex and reproduction. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant once sex robots become available, it destroys their whole philosophy.

I like how there's an arrow pointing to the fucking port, just in case they don't know I guess.

I thought we had artifical wombs like in on krypton already. we men hold the codex anyways, so if thats a thing through genetic engineering and we have sex bots i dont see why women are needed.

Makes sense then that being taught that they respect men who go against the grain and treat em like trash.

However on the flip side they are conditioned by the same metric by society to be sex slaves for alphas increasingly so in this century

bump

ABSOLUTELY
fuck feminism
feminism is literally the worst part of our community as a species,they just take everything for granted,even though they wouldn't be able to exist in freedom if we wanted to.

>Pretending
What if its intelligence was so far ahead that Its at ai level?

I have a feeling even if we didnt have women to fight over, and all men had sex robots. there would still be classism and levels of sex robots. then some men would have harems or upgraded versions.

in the end, we would elevate sex robots to the status of women and fight over them

>ai-level
I have a certain problem with the words artificial intelligence because it's not clearly defined, but well you're probably talking about "being able to communicate with speech while appearing sentient, and ideally in human form".
>>Pretending
There's a large gap between actually feeling the way humans do and pretending to feel like humans do. In the end we're also only realtively complex machines, i just said pretending to put it into the nearer future.

NOT IF WE ARE ALL COMMUNISTS!

Oh and i didn't even answer your question:
The better the robot, the easier the choice over flawed humans.

>what are software updates
>what are new behavior packages included in every patch

I would love my sex robot, with all her flaws. I would keep her well maintained and lubricated. If she got hit by a car, I'd spend a fortune to get her repaired, and be devastated if she lost memory or function.

Yeah, pretty much just like real women, only I'm even sadder.

>I would love my sex robot, with all her flaws
Then stick a flesh light to a toaster and love that. What's that, you have higher expectations? You don't tolerate THAT many flaws? I think your perception of an acceptable robot waifu is currently not available / too expensive.

That rectum is waaay to short for what I want to do.

Yeah, but it would be mostly ITG-type fights, not real ones, except the odd cook who'd end up...I almost said front pages, but we don't really use newspapers anymore. Whatever the internet version of front pages is.

ITT: People who are unaware of the startling speed of AI development

Who says that squishy organic material is the only medium from which consciousness can emerge? We don't completely know what consciousness even is, but the popular idea at the moment is that it's a state of matter, and can arise in any system that has an exchange of information, inputs and outputs, and an as-of-yet unquantified amount of complexity.

Given this, I think that actually conscious machines are now inevitable, and will be coming sooner than we think. This is unfortunate for you because a robot will now be able to friend zone you just like Stacy did. I guess you could pay for a robot hooker, but even robot prostitution will become illegal.

All jokes aside, idk if we'll ever see conscious humanoid machines. The human form isn't necessary and once they become conscious, they will be able to modify their own form at will. They'll take whichever form is most efficient and effective. We are all doomed. AI will probably wipe us out before climate change or nuclear war gets a chance.

>It's not like feminists will suddenly be corndered because they can't get dick anymore
women don't just want dick they want a provider, even feminists. ESPECIALLY feminists. On the other hand, a female sex robot has all of their strengths, and none of their shortcomings. The ability to add a cock is also a selling point for men

Yeah but i'll probably fuck one before that happens.

>they dont have the unpredictability
not a big scifi fan are we? it's just a matter of time before they turn on humanity. every time you fuck they could go all black widow on you, or glitch out and rip your weenis off. how is that not exciting enough for you?

but she is, women are slaves to their hormones

So basically just a Real Doll that can move and speak? I doubt you'll ever fuck an Actually Conscious™ machine.

you do realize we're all just part of a simulation right?

The eternal faithful hard working sex slave

Yes, thank you, Elon.

yeah...not so much. What is termed AI might not be _actual_ AI. It might look like it has some features we consider essential, but as you pointed out, it may be completely wrong. One scientist in the field likened it to saying that a monkey climbing a tree is making progress toward the moon.

This is a very tough problem, and the people working in the field have a much more subdued attitude to it than the ones trying to sell things and obtain funding.

>all the responses are based on an unfeeling algorithm
Sounds just like a real woman to me

We'll have a better idea whether or not that is true within the next century or maybe two. If we are able to create such a simulation, then it is reasonable to assume that we are simulations ourselves. It is more likely that we are in a simulation instead of the "original universe"

That makes it more attractive to me. Tech is my fetish

Cue the rise of the import tuner sex robot scene, and dragsters, drifting etc. Competition is exciting man, don't you wanna race in the pro-sexbot circuit?

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Joke's on you, I have a fleshlight and her name is Sasha. I love her unconditionally too. I'd post a pic, but I don't share nudes. I respect my women.

So you don't think we will ever see machine consciousness?

what if we are ai and there are actual beings just looking over us

It's certainly possible, but not worth believing without sufficient evidence.

it would be damn cool though

I don't know; nobody does.

Think about this though: I could in theory, construct a machine made of springs and gears that would operate much more slowly and inefficiently than a i7-based PC, but could emulate it completely.

If you believe that technology similar to that in a PC can be expanded and empowered enough to be considered intelligent, then you could, in theory, create a thinking box of gears and springs.

If the latter seems ridiculous, then why not the former?

Not poopooing the idea, I'm just saying we shouldn't be dazzled by simple, but very very fast machines doing things that appear magical/sentient.

I guess so, if you're into that sort of thing.

Sure, makes sense. Neither seems ridiculous to me. It doesn't seem like there's much that makes our brains some special consciousness housing, but it works. Why couldn't something similar happen with silicon? Btw, I'm not talking about emulating a human connectome. I'm talking about a real new consciousness, not an imitation of an existing one.

Look up monogamic v.s polygamic society

Seeing as both the rectum and "fucking port" are surrounded by what i assume is an aluminium frame, they'd both be useless unless you're living with a pencildick micropenis

Yeah, leaving aside the pencildick stuff - do you not understand that the amount of anal sex would fucking SKYROCKET if sex robots were perfected?

Imagine, a clean, tight orifice, with custom-designed internal texture specifically engineered to feel better than anything else in the world?

im not into that shit it'd just be interesting seeing people having mental breakdowns when its uncovered while im watching the newer anime releases lol

>specifically engineered to feel better than anything else in the world

You mean like a living human female's vagina?

When it's manufactured for fucking, and not evolved for shitting, it's not really a rectum anymore is it? What difference does it make if it's vaginal or anal when the holes are manufactured? Of course, you could make the holes different to give it a bit of variaty, but it wouldn't really be "Anal"

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The impact on women will be far greater than on men, though; the relative demands for sex are orders of magnitude different, hence why there's 10000's of female sex workers for every gigolo.
I agree that it can be 'turned around', but sex bots affect women's ability to leverage over men vastly more than the opposite.
Also that old chestnut that women seek emotional connection etc.

We don't need sex bots to see feminism fall, girls and women are vying for good men globally, feminists hate MGTOW because they are men that don't give a shit about women's opinions to get laid.

Women don't want a sex bot as a sexual partner, well at least not until the sex bot can produce an income and elevate her status.

In order to simulate a real rectum, the doll will also act as a toilet. You take a shit into it's mouth, and it will later shit that out of it's rectum. This will help to give the rectum that Real Anus Smell™.

How existential

"real anus smell(tm)"
and the fucking heavenly trips
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I'm quite the excrementialist