The hate based around this film is due to audiences being too stupid to piece things together themselves...

The hate based around this film is due to audiences being too stupid to piece things together themselves. Go and watch your shitty Marvel films you meandering plebs.

>We want XENOMORPHS REEEEEEEEE
>Alien Covenant sucks REEEEEEEEEEE

Alien movie fans are truly cancer. They screech the same way the alien does when they don't get their way.

It was alright. I expect more from Ridley Scott though.

The xenomorphs were delivered scornfully. Like "you want xenomorphs ok fuck you have xenomorphs you peices of shit. Enjoy the ending you whiney little cunts. Yeah fuck you I hope you go home feeling depressed"
Ridley Scott is a bitter old man and needs to stop making films.
The movie wasn't quite alien and wasn't quite Prometheus. It failed to deliver any thing good from both of those films.

>Alien Covenant sucks REEEEEEEEEEE
Well, it did fail to answer pretty much all the questions that Prometheus asked.
Can't lie, I had fun watching it, but as a sequel it was fucking terrible.

>Ridley Scott needs to stop making films

Still better than most.

Hate based on what exactly. My only issue with the plot of the movie was the conflict between the two Androids. From Prometheus I loved David and his hatred towards the human race. Made him seem to be more human than most other humans. Then in this movie they perverted his hate into this obsession of chaos which was too boring for me. Made him seem like some sort of adolescent. Also what he did to Prof. Shaw was a bit drastic. Sorta devolved his character for me..

people have been hating it for dumb shit where they can't piece together basic info. They hate the fact that David is guiding the strain to engineer the Xenos. They hate that David is a good villain. They hated that there was no follow up to the engineers though it's pretty plain to see that one old style city is not the whole of a space faring civilizations population.

Just dumb shit

>the hate around this film is based on viewer not being into robot homosex

>They hate the fact that David is guiding the strain to engineer the Xenos

The strain he started with, where this little fuckers fly in huge numbers, were far more deadly than the xenos he engineered.

A "just born" alien getting up and standing to attention to him was absurd. You can't genetically engineer a killer race to respect you as some kind of father figure.

Not that guy but I get what you mean about the alien just born doing that shit but I mean, he was obviously able to find a way to communicate with them somehow as was shown earlier in the cleaning area and the Alien's from prior films were all either already born or taking the queens directives.

The Xenos he engineered after had human DNA which in David's mind had the ability to create (Creation, which he goes into detail about in many scenes, and what his father did to him), as opposed to just destroying which the flying black things could only did.

The Xeno had the capability of doing both.

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>implying it was even slightly hard to predict that shitty film.

>M. Night Shyamalan detected

I haven't seen it but you sound exactly like a BvS fan.

Prometheus and Covenant suck generic dick.
Hey look, we turned the mysterious "space jockey" into generic potato faced humanoid!
Hey look, potato face humanoids wear generic video game cloaks!
Hey look, generic looking chest bursters right out of Pitch Black!
Hey look, even the TITLES are becoming generic! Covenant/Absolution/Requiem/Legacy/Ascension...

They're actually just like shitty Marvel films.

Haven't seen it yet, but from what I've been told/shown, they got rid of the practical effects, in favor of pure CGI, which didn't produce a very convincing looking xeno.

>chest bursters right out of Pitch Black

If not bait then seriously kill yourself.

See:
The shit is terrible. Whenever I see the newer alien designs from Prometheus/Covenant I keep expecting an "Engineer" to walk into the shot wearing welding goggles over his eyes only to take them off and be Giant Vin Diesel. Shit's crap. There is zero originality or creativity left in the Alien franchise anymore. It's all generic post-2000 video game/movie construction kit template shit. They had a gold mine on their hands with doing the prequels but churned out this shit instead.
Netflix could've done a better prequel for Alien.

Seems like they're really squandering the IP. Even most of the alien games, have been awful, despite it really being something easy to work with.

It's terrible, yeah. But I read it as "Pitch Black came up with this concept"

my issue was, that the whole movie was fucking predictable. You knew basically everything that would happen, before it did based on how they shot/ cut it

Only hate I had towards it really was how retarded the "scientists" were. Like, c'mon.

David didn't create the Aliens. He merely figured out how to make them, just like the Engineers did. There is a mural in Prometheus of the Alien. Also, the Derelict ship in Alien is full of eggs.

Just felt like I should point this out, since some people don't understand it.

I liked the movie, it's just somthing to watch for fun. I didn't go in and expect anything amazing though, I was just going to see a movie with some friends and I didn't think it was that bad. Yes I did watch Prometheus as well

People give Lucas so much shit over the Star Wars prequel trilogy...those were only only three films he managed to fuck up the Star Wars universe with. The fucking Alien travesty began with Alien 3, then 4, then the AvP shit, THEN Prometheus and NOW Covenant... Fuck, enough already. They could fucking "reboot" tomorrow and still no one would have any faith in it other than people like OP who eat this steaming shit up. Pisspant.

didn't he improve them? i thought the white ones were designed by the engineers and he improved them with that beetle shell

and acid blood.

The only above average scene was when the young aliens were hunting them at night in that field. They gave them a raging animal vibe. The sound they made running across the ground was amazing.

Pitch Black came up with shit that looked like this. That's what I meant. Generic, pointy-thingy. Nothing like a Giger xenomorph...but hey it's what Hollywood wants.

The movie may have been bad, but it couldn't have been as much of IP abuse as Aliens colonial marines was.

but in Prometheus they find this mural on the wall, which is the Xeno. Also, Alien takes place I think only 10-11 years after Covenant, so that would mean that the derelict ship that crashed on LV 426 probably took off from the LV planet in Prometheus. And it has eggs on it. Engineers made them first.

forgot to attach the jpg

It's the best Aliens movie since Aliens. However to act like David created the alien is BS. We all saw it fight the Predator. Scott needs to stop trying to be a bitch. We wanted the engineers a d wanted know more about them. We wanted the real aliens. So give us what we want.

Yeah I'm really surprised we haven't had any decent Alien games. It's like the 40K franchise.. it's an opportunity that just keeps getting squandered.

Haven't seen the film and don't want to read the thread because of spoilers but I was really disappointed with prometheus.

Yeah, I got it. It just wasn't very good.

That was also my favorite part.
The neomorphs (?) were pretty cool.

I kinda figured it was going to be a L4D like game, but they literally made COD, and stuck aliens in it.

If the first star wars prequel movie never happened, we'd probably call both the other prequels pretty good.

That's Jesus Alien. He died for all I'm out sins.

Also no queen. We all know the queen is where baby aliens come from. Scott is being a bitch and trying to Fuck up a great story

>isolation
>bad

yeah that was my first thought too, but i guess you just have to think of those as not related at all

That is the general look of the creatures that came from the bioweapon. But if you pay attention, they had a shit ton of different looks and delivery methods for the embryos. Like they mosquito one. The white Neomorphs were the base design. David improved on that through manipulating it's evolution. Now they've gotten it to the Protomorph which is the black aliens in Covenant. Still don't have xenomorphs yet.

>David didn't create the Aliens. He merely figured out how to make them, just like the Engineers did. There is a mural in Prometheus of the Alien. Also, the Derelict ship in Alien is full of eggs

It's not a matter of "understanding" it, it's a matter of it being a totally inconsistent plot that just goes wherever it wants and "smart people get it".

Well that's true, I forgot about that one.

pure CGI is cheaper, and it's easier to throw in a shitload of semi-believable CGI than painstakingly do and redo and reshoot cosmetics/latex/models.

Cheaper means they can do more, which apparently impresses people more than they'd be with a few props and a little imagination. It's all bullshit. A few (very few) films actually needed it, and couldn't have been made without heavy lifting from computers (Jurassic Park, LOTR). But Star Wars (ep 4)? All models, costumes, makeup. Alien? Same.

Of course all the new SWs are garbage, and new Aliens, and Star Truck. It's not going to get better until all oldfags are dead (and all original films "remastered" with cgi).

>I hate life
>re re re re re re re re re re re re

The life cycle was messed with pretty badly.

Said "just born" alien wasn't even what it was supposed to be.
We know aliens as worms that later shed their skin and grow into bigger creatures with limbs.
This one had all its limbs right off the bat.

Not to mention that the time required was fucked with yet again, like in the AvP movies. It took no time at all for a facehugger to plant an embryo and for that embryo to "hatch" and grow into a full-grown xeno.
The second guy even had a facehugger attached for only a few seconds, yet had a chestburster implanted.

And finally, David had made eggs without any queen.

AVP is only canon in the Predators films. Not the Aliens ones. That's been stated before multiple times. we still have 20 years film time before Ripley finds the Derelict ship.

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This.

>Also no queen

But what came first, the queen or the egg?

Not remotely. There is no Queen yet because there are no Xenomorphs yet. They are only Protomorphs.

The chicken

They screwed up the movies. But the comics and all was very popular. Scott is pissing me off with this shit. I want to know more about the engineers. Tease us with the Predator. Show the queen. Kill David for being a cuck.

I really liked it!!

Though I find removing the mystique of the creation of the xenomorphs really annoying. Seems revisionist to me. It seems obvious they were always meant to stay mysterious.

Yeah! Where the hell did those eggs come from?? Da fuq

giger who?

I'm not saying I'm smarter or anything, I'm just saying I don't think Covenant implies he was the first to create the things.

Like I've already said, Those weren't Xenomorphs. They are Protomorphs. Less intelligent, more feral, simpler creatures. Don't need a larval stage. It's mimicry was dumb as fuck, but it's look was fine.

Never actually played that but.. it doesn't exactly seem to have been a best seller.

"Spock, you have not achieved..."
Oh wait, sorry, sorry...got this confused with Star Trek I. Can't imagine why...

STFU GO POST ON YOU DUMB NIGGER

The actress who played Shaw had to fuck up a good thing. Stupid cunt.

You KNOW some Hollywood executive floated the idea putting Shaw into stasis and waking her up in the time of Ripley and the two of them could violently kill lots of xenos.

Didn't sell all that well, but I've yet to talk to someone who played it, and didn't at least think it was okay. Survival horror just isn't that horribly popular of a genre anymore.

But we can't post porn there.

It's cause fags like you trying to roger and ebert that shit. Every fuck face is a critic these days. No fucking shit superhero movies are fucking idiotic. I'm sure you've kept up with all prior to the internet turning on them. The fact the entire world feels the need to post their opinions and spoil plot lines within 24 hours after a release of a film is just a bunch of fuckery. Fuck off with the shit, fast 8 was like trump winning the election, we all knew shit would suck but still come out on top. We're on transformers 5 it's the same movie 5 times over yet it sells out every time. The internet needs to shut the fuck up about movies, shit is fucking retarded

The queen.

David didnt make the Xenomorphs. The engineers found them experimented with them find out they can change your DNA create a new little alien life forms. So somewhere out there in deep dark space is the queen.

>I HATE NIGGERS
NIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEERRRRSSSSS

It's a totally bullshit argument to go "oh that film clashes with all the plots we've made, but don't worry, it's ok because it's not cannon".

The queen was a Cameron's idea from Aliens. I loved Prometheus and I wanted Prometheus 2, but I know people are lazy. Alien:covenant was satisfactory and I look forward to the next movies.

and yet another female lead role. i don't think it'S bad to have that, but in an alien move again?

Respect
But seriously the movie is a kick to the balls for alien fans

Where did you hear that? because as far as the films are concerned, the engineers created the black goo as a bioweapon to eliminate failed experiments on planets. David is manipulating it and making them into true Xenomorphs. Try listening to the fucking dialogue sometime.

I'd like to think they're protomorphs, but their resemblance is so close I wouldn't be surprised if the director really intended for these guys to be the xenomorphs we know from all the other movies. Eggs, facehuggers, black exoskeleton, mouth-tongue, acid blood... it's hard to make any other conclusion.

It's tradition.

I wouldn't be surprised if fans would complain if an Alien movie was made for a male lead role.

Alien was one of the pioneers for it, makes sense. I liked how she was basically telling the guy we're fucking stupid for going there but I thought she coulda been a bit more badass the way Cameron uses his female leads. Then again, I guess she's just a colonist

>Ripley is humanities first encounter with Xenos
>In the year 2122
>but you believe 200X shit movie is canon
I mean, it's always not been canon but you go ahead and be autistic if you like.

Is that you, Ridley Scott?

>roger and ebert
>not siskel

I still remember their review of Aliens
>S: thumbs down
>E: thumbs up

And... I trusted Siskel.
Bastards
>rεεεεεεεεεεεε

It was stated in some interviews. Ridley Scott said there were no Xenos in Covenant.

Hurfff! I am freshly pulled out of someone's ass in order to cash in on a great movie franchise from decades ago!

Nigger please it's part of the story

Aliens was thumbs down tho, the first was at least epic as fuck in terms of art direction, lighting and camera + it was somewhat unique. Dat fucking scene where the Alien is hanging on the ceiling chains

Cameron just turned it into an arcade game basically. I enjoyed it right until the scene where they're locked in that office and the guy is shotgunning xeno's out of the air and then I blanked out until the 'get away from her you bitch' line. Too inconsistent for me. Ree.

This... there was no suspense. No surprise. You knew everything that was going to happen based on the trailers.

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Looks like the original alien to me. Same head shape, body shape. I aint giving no mother fucker who directed Pitch Black credit over the original Alien.

The biggest issue I had with the film is that Ridley Scott is trying to create the next 2001. He can't. He won't. That film is just too damned good. Rather than focusing on truckers in space, marines with big guns, etc, he has decided to go down this route of poetic storytelling with the Alien franchise and he's not very good at it. There are some good bits here and there, yeah, but the Alien franchise shouldn't be striving to be visual poetry. Go back to the roots.

this.

I don't give a fuck who created us, or the Alien. I just want it to kill shit. And preferably with Ripley there to kill it.

Danny McBride the only thing selling the movie. No shit the movie sucks or doesn't live up to original or expectation. Haven't seen it yet, will eventually. Didn't expect it to blow my mind, we live in the age of reboots. Rarely do they exceed expectations. Hollywood is like the wwe. They need to stop focusing on the past and finding a way to capitalize on nostalgia. Classics are classics because they were good as fuck. We don't need anymore remakes. Jurassica park should've ended after the 2nd, yet we got Jeff goldblums black Olympic gymnast daughter followed by Chris Pratt basically remaking the plot of the 1st Jurassic park but 2015 version. Movies suck dick these days. We still don't need the dip shits just as lame as the Hollywood producers critiquing the movies

Interesting protomorphs, then. Wonder why he would make not-xenos looks that much like xenos.

But alright, now I'm curious about what he will do with actual xenos when the time comes.

>Nigger please it's part of the story
Nigger please, you completely missed my point.
They could have come up with GOOD designs, original designs, creative and compelling designs. But instead we got shit taken directly from Quake and Pitch Black because modern Hollywood.

The hate is because it's a bullshit garbage movie made for idiots and niggers. The characters are completely retarded and behave like moron teenagers in any generic b grade horror film.

The fuck are you talking about, guy wasn't trying to be 2001 at all. I can agree with people who hated/liked the film etc. but that is just fucking dumb.

and the guy literally started his career as a set designer. what the hell do you expect him to do + the first Alien film IS visual poetry.

>implying the Alien didn't kill shit

Every scene was like a vicious death niggah.

mah niggas
i just finished the first audible book, and started the 2nd

The IP has been dead since Alien 3. Then Alien resurrection dug up it's grave and raped it. Then Alien vs Predator dropped it off in the ghetto so niggers could rape it. The Prometheus carved out it's corpse and built a urinal out of it for a public bus station restroom, then Covenant look the urinal off the wall and raped the urinal.

>Movies suck dick these days
>Marketed movies suck dick these days

fixed that for you mah niggah.

LOL! The first Alien film was visual poetry!? If you thought that simple horror flick was poetic then you are borderline retarded. What deep message was there in the first Alien movie? Go on. Tell us. What life lessons did it teach the audience? How did Alien explore the human mind, how we interact with the divine, and where our place is within the greater scheme of creation? Go on. I'll wait.

Alien was a simple horror flick. Aliens was an epic action horror flick. Prometheus and Covenant are just attempts at being 'deep' by trying to make greater metaphors towards what it means to be human and our creation as a whole. It's pointless nonsense that's unnecessary in the franchise. Again, Ridley is just trying to be poetic and create a 'deep and memorable film' because of the concept that 2001 created: Sci-fi is mythology of the modern day. Ridley has even said this in interviews, so lick my balls and address my points.

I don't actually get the hate for Alien3. I thought the series was great until Resurrection shat on it.