Alcoholism Thread

Let's start this shit up again. Very interesting thread last night:

4 cans of 4loko every day. Is this alcoholism? Others drink a 5th of vodka for breakfast to get started. Where are you in this field?

I'm drinking right now. I do every day. I mix 100 proof vodka with various things like non alcoholic cider/cinnamon/caramel extract/seltzer water (good as fuck), root beer concentrate/caramel extract/seltzer water, or just mix some citrus base. I use a measuring cup to measure the vodka for each drink. If I want a longer day of drinking, I do 1/4 cup of vodka per 44 ounce racetrac cup. Can sometimes get that up to 4-5 drinks over 4-6 hours, and top it off at the end of the drinking session with an IPA or two, maybe 6-7% ABV. Then go to sleep.

Days that I work, I'll come home and pour half a cup of vodka for my racetrac cup drink, then have 1 or two more before going to 2-3 IPAs. Then sleep.

I'm pretty functional, but feel in a fog 100% of the time. I can remember what it's like to be clear, so I can tell I'm in a fog. Mess up my words. Type the wrong word that sounds like the word I want. My emails and posts are pathetic if I don't go back and re-edit. Hell I've probably done the same thing in this post, as I don't plan to edit.

So where are you on this scale? Many would call me a pussy casual. Many would say I'm a hard core alchy that needs help.

Do you want to quit? Have you quit? What did you do to quit? Some people have said you should take B-6 and 5-HTP if you wind down your drinking or can go cold turkey.

How many of you have tried and got the shakes? How much were you drinking, or are drinking?

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holy fuck dude. I drink like two or three beers after work everyday. I drink more during the weekends, but not much.

You sound like my boss at work, I would slow down if I was you.

Shut the fuck up i have a hangover

Just talk to your dad.

>I drink like two or three beers after work everyday.
>beers
Well there's a gradient to beers. I've got 10% ABV beers, and I've got 4.5% ABV beers. Big difference if we're talking number of beers after work. What beer? Just standard mass made crap like bud light?

Recently my heart started giving me problems during or after drinking.

Ran out of breath about a week ago after my 4th beer, been drinking 5 nights a week since December.

>4 cans of 4loko every day. Is this alcoholism?

Yes, nigger...

I was reading the thread last night but passed out before it got good apparently.

I've been a chronic pot smoker and a moderate drinker for years. I've stopped smoking but I was up to a quarter a week. Now I'm trying not to replace it with alcohol, but I drink between 1-3 cans of beer or vodka diets in an evening.

Dude u r so cool lol

>Have you quit? What did you do to quit?

I was one of the worst drinkers ever for ten years. I drank around 20 units (1 beer or 1 shot = 1 unit) a day, most of the time all day.

I could still function because i came from a long line of functional drunks. Had a job and my own place.

I realized one day I wasn't enjoying it anymore, and tried different stuff, always went back. Then I saw my drunk pillhead half brother die, and decided i didn't want that.

I quit cold turkey, replaced with weed. Smoked weed every day for 6 months, then went 2 weeks on, 2 off to learn what "normal" was. did that for 6 months then quit weed, which was super easy by comparison.

Read The Sobering Truth by Jeff Herten MD, no bullshit he just tells you how the bottled jew is killing you.

Alcohol is the #1 killer of white men, BTW.

I don't get hangovers anymore. I can drink enough to make teenager want to die the morning after, and only feel my regular fog. No headache even. But others drink a 5th before noon, and seem to function on some level. That's crazy to me. So I'm curious as to how much people drink and how they operate. How they feel about it.

I feel like killing myself

Thought the point of drinking was to not feel miserable and suicidal all the time?

>Alcohol is the #1 killer of white men, BTW.
This is true. And I've never liked the buzz from weed. Seems to run my blood pressure up and make me have no idea what's going on. A complete loss of control on my psyche. Not a warm feeling. I know there are strains out there that would work for me though. Sadly it's not legal here in Georgia yet, and will be a long time. And I'm not buying random shit off the streets. My assumption is I'll get used to the shit off the streets and end up spending a fortune on that shit.

Right now, I have an apartment of my own, and a job for 10 years. Don't want to rock that boat.

I forgot to mention this:

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Most of us know the Jews are behind the media, feminism, communism and porn.

They'll do anything to ruin the white race, but they're also behind a lot of the alcohol companies as well. Lots of jews own liquor stores or distributors.

Um... were talking Busch Light.

I only buy beer by the 30pack. IPA's are for faggot hippsters

>I'm pretty functional, but feel in a fog 100% of the time.
If you're drinking 44oz cups of sugary mixer along with your vodka, plus the Four Loko, I'm pretty sure you're getting rekt by blood sugar issues more than the effects of alcohol intoxication.

You're ingesting as much sugar as if you chugged a whole 12-pack of soda, for fuck's sake. From your symptoms, you may be developing the early stages of diabetes.

Who /teetotal/ here?

Feels good man. Trump knows it is the way of the warrior.

Addicted to alchohol AND caffeine.

>IPA's are for faggot hippsters
I've been drinking them long before the hipsters even knew what they were. Brew my own beer as well, and have been for a very long time. Regardless of the hipsters, good beer is good. Just the way it is.

Apparently we have one of the highest alcohol consumption rates in the world but I don't know anyone who has it effect their work.

I'm a landowner and farmer by occupation so I know a lot of heavy drinkers but none that I would consider a liability. I typically have a few beers a night, maybe half a bottle of wine and some schnapps. On a weekend it rises to whatever I feel like. I probably drink about 50 beers a week, two or three bottles of wine and a small amount of schnapps.

Never had an effect on me, but apparently that puts me well into alcoholic territory.

>If you're drinking 44oz cups of sugary mixer along with your vodka
No sugar, I use stevia to avoid over carbing.

Drinking alone is degenerate. I used to after I graduated from college then I realized how gay it was. The main issue is that it totally prevents you from getting /fit/, which should be important to any young man.

I have friends who took easier, work-from-home jobs to accommodate their drinking, which I thought was pretty sad.

>developing the early stages of diabetes
Could be. But again, I sweeten any drink I have with stevia. The 4loko guy was from the previous thread.

I can polish off a bottle of vodka in 2-3 days, But I try to insert a clean week after every bender.

On a side note I don't believe in the whole weed cures cancer meme, but I do believe it can help ween people off of alcohol dependency.

I was damn lucky all my friends are potheads.

I'm glad i was able to use it to get straight, but I definitely won't use it in the future unless I get some disease that's worse than pot.

Pot did make me pretty stupid and emotional, almost on a woman tier. I can recognize it now in my pothead friends, niggers and anyone else I know who uses it.

I had the heart problems from indica strains, look for sativa or schwag, i had less issues with those.

>Drinking alone is degenerate. I used to after I graduated from college then I realized how gay it was
I don't disagree with that. It is degenerate, and anti-health. Being /fit/ is health. But that's not being debated by anyone.

I get the impression that heavy drinking is pretty common among right-wingers. What do you guys think?

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congrats. you are now not an alcoholic anymore, and you felt good and didn't have DTs while quitting.

pay it forward, alkis.

I used to drink mike hard lemonades 8% everyday up until last year.


They never specify if it's vodka or beer. All I know is that shit is evil and I leave it alone now.

Red pills are a heavy burden to bare.

Yes, but when it boils down to it its just beer. If it's readily available, well made, clean and reasonable then it does the job. I don't need it to be rare or exclusive.

All the breweries close to me are decent, aside from one which is a love/hate thing. I don't have to go to the end of the earth to get it. A Crate of 20 is about 14 euros and at the end of the month I take all my crates and empties back.

Really, if I have to order it from Amazon or drive to Innsbruck to buy it from a man with a Tumblr account is it worth it?

I'm just explaining why I stopped even though I enjoyed it.

I'm probably a bit more than that. Though I call "a bottle" the big ass jug of 100 proof. 1.75 liters. That takes me a week to finish off if I'm just using vodka.

This.

Will it cure the hangover i have now?

>get drunk last night
>drive home
>MAGA banner in trunk
And I'm fine with this

Gotcha, my bad, user.

>stevia
Well there's your fucking problem, user.

Consuming large quantities of stevia can give you a variety of unpleasant central nervous system side-effects, including disorientation, numbness, and dizziness.

Shittiest drug on the planet.

You're leaning towards being an alcoholic, yes. You probably are one, and although the slippery slope is a logical fallacy, it isn't usually when it comes to alcoholism.

t. recovering alcoholic

Yes OP

I drink 4 25oz 8% mangoritas a day

>HIGH DOSE NIACIN
Interesting. Maybe I'll get that along with the serotonin helper, 5-HTP.

Though I'm not sure I even want to quit. I'm red pilled about the dynamics of the world, have a shitty job, albeit stable, and live alone. Clearly depression. And not into getting on to pills that require me to not drink. I could quit drinking first, before getting on pills, but how the fuck can anyone get through that stage?

in all likelihood, yes.

i should have not appeared to emphasize tha niacin over the vitamin C. both are very important.

the niacin will dilate blood vessels, and the ascorbate will clear out the alcohol metabolites that cause the hangover.

also, N-acetyl cysteine will repair your liver, and outright stop a hangover if you take it beforehand.

>I don't get hangovers anymore
Sorry to break it to you but the body doesn't just stop being dehydrated. You probably chug water before you go to sleep.

Oh, I didn't read the last part of your post.

Yeah I quit, it was hard. At my worst I wasn't really eating anything, deciding to just drink booze all day to get my calories.

I used to drink a handle of whiskey, or 1.75 liters, every two days. So that's 30 ounces a day.

Well every few months I switch back to some other shitty non sugar sweetner. Besides, I prefer drier drinks -- not super sweet.

I quit binge but switched to organic amarone. one bottle for two every evening, but it is enough and not as bad as spirits.

>Where are you in this field?
Have to drink everyday, but almost always in the evening and a six pack instead of hard liquor. When I can't drink I smoke, so it's more like I can't be sober in the hours before sleep.
Can't remember how it is to be absolutely clear of any kind of drug, and had some short pharma "addictions" in the last couple of years.
Is it alcoholism?
>Do you want to quit?
Not really but I ought to.

Also yeah OP you are probably a pussy casual which is good for you

>You probably chug water before you go to sleep
Absolutely. I keep 2 liter bottles full of water for after my drinking. Which means I'm washing out most of my body's nutrients. That is what I think causes more of my fog; not the alcohol directly.

Go to AA. It really helps. Best of all, today is the birthday of Alcoholics Anonymous. Never a better day.

man, you are fucking retarded
the only times it is acceptable to drink

1) father, mother, wife , husband, sister , child or brother dies. you get 1 night of drinking.

2) when you are a teen just learning about drinking. you get no more than 3 times binge drinking with mates,

3) its pre sex, eg you are making her drink vodka so you have a little to encourage her. dont fuck your boner tho.

4) your retirement

5) 1 other random binge drink per year for misc reason

6) australia day

anything else is bullshit, kill yourself tier
get some standards

>Busch light

Redneck detected

Also thanks for being the stereotype piss beer drinking American

Alcoholics don't have the ability to moderate. It's either all or nothing.

Most people don't understand that.

I get sloshed every day because I'm a balding 23 year old ugly college dropout neet with crippling anxiety and I can't do anything but stare at the walls and worry while sober

This. So much this. Alcoholism is drinking when you don't want to drink and picking and never being able to put it down

See that's the thing. This debate about what it means to be an alcoholic. You're saying that if I stop myself from drinking more because I have work in the morning, even if it's a large amount of alcohol, I'm not an alcoholic. That's strange to me, because I live my days in a fog simply because of my drinking. Yet I can moderate it on some level. How do you reconcile these two aspects?

>want
You've glossed over a key issue here. Want to on many levels, don't want to on other levels.

I've been drinking every day for about the past year with only minor breaks and exceptions, I never drink in the morning or at work, usually visit the pub straight from work on the way home with a friend, we drink 3-4 strong pints and then head home, sometimes I'll drink whisky at home.

Last week I decided to cut back and I drank nothing during the week and just stuck to weekends which i didn't have an issue with, so I don't think I'm dependent on it (yet)

I'm lucky because I can hold my liquor and I don't really get hangovers to speak of, and I earn loads of money so the cost isn't an issue, it's really just the health issues I worry about, trashing your liver is fucking dumb and the only reason I really want to dial it down.

I'm not really ADHD or anything but I get really bored really fast without stimulation and a lot of times things are boring like social interaction or if I'm just chilling and trying to relax I often cannot, drink helps with that a lot. I also can't get to sleep easily and when I do it's a unrelaxed sleep, if I drink loads quickly and conk out then i get to sleep on time and wake up really refreshed. I wake up feeling a LOT better after a night of drinking whisky, a good 8 hours sleep from 12-8 zoned out is way better than bed at like 2am and toss and turn for 6 hours.

The day I start getting bad hangover is gonna be fucking shit though.

Seems a good enough reason to me.

You're pretty much fooling yourself, if you drink to intoxication on a regular basis you cannot moderate.

The only one that can call you an alcoholic for sure is you. Could you see yourself living without alcohol?

>That's strange to me, because I live my days in a fog simply because of my drinking.
But that means you are always under the influence. If you'd get sober and make sure you are completely clean before work you might not be an alcoholic.
I think an alcoholic is anyone who has to drink frequently to survive everyday life, no matter how he pulls it off.

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Can relate to all of that 100%

Except the hangover part. I used to get hangovers, but they stopped. I don't expect them to come back.

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Well maybe moderate is the wrong word here. I know when I've hit my limit. To me, that's moderation. I don't want to stop because then I'll be staring at the wall all night with no stimulation that would do anything to relieve the utter abyss of shit in this world. Could you just stare at a wall, and look forward to that each day after a horrid day at work? Especially if there is a way to avoid all that by simply drinking something?

You don't stop being an alcoholic because you stop drinking. It doesn't go away, ever.

Yeah that's your mind tricking you into drinking. It's the oldest trick in the book.

You convince yourself that you could not live without alcohol, when in reality you did live without alcohol already for a good portion of your life.

Best way to look at is there's the addicted part of you, and the normal part of you. The addicted part is in control, and the normal part is down there somewhere, although it's being heavily suppressed by the addicted part.

This is one of the first things you learn after getting sober.

Why does everyone end their post with "t." and some self identidying label? Is this some new dank meme i dont know about?

I don't think this is the DSM definition

I think alcoholism is someone who is prone to alcohol addiction according to the DSM

So if you have a propensity for drinking, and you give it up for 5 years, you're still an alcoholic because if you start hitting the bottle again you won't be able to stop.

Has nothing to do with what time you stop drinking at night.

Just look up t. Alberto Barbosa

I quit drinking back in 2009, mainly due to health problems, I was getting drunk after one beer.
I dont regret it. Use of drugs is degenerate.

Women are broken, and the way men used to live is gone. The vast majority of the world not only doesn't see this, but actively fights to continue the process. There are no more houses on the plains, with 6 kids running around. That can only be had if you're a Chad. And even then, it's fake. Drinking is simply a way to take it.

Interesting. Thank you for that. Will think about it.

I love alcohol and when I came upon evidence of alcohol screwing you up (emotional stability problems, retarding the ability to lose weight, preventing the building of muscle, and impotence) I thought, I don't want this but I don't want to give it up either. So I diet properly for five or six days a week and have a partying cheat day or weekend. If you keep things in proportion you will be fine. If you drink every single day it's like ejaculating every single day.

I get up to about a fifth a day and that's what I was at for the last two weeks. I got sick and was still drinking and then got REALLY sick and had to chill for two days.

Now I don't plan on drinking this coming week, at least not all day/at work

My girlfriend is a heavy drinker and last night had to be brought to the hospital because she tried to drink herself to death. What do i do guys? She's only 18.

Yeah and don't forget that alcohol is a depressant. It will depress you heavily over time.

It's a cycle of death really. Eventually you get depressed about drinking, which leads you to drink more. Which makes you even more depressed, which makes you drink more.

>Now I don't plan on drinking this coming week, at least not all day/at work
Good luck user. Yeah it's strange. We poison ourselves. Fucked up when you think about it. Yet poetic when you see the world around us.

I poured out all my alcohol yesterday. I already feel better.

I wonder the best way to end the cycle. Thinking about trying this niacin shit, and 5-HTP. Then just staring at the wall. Seeing if I can do it.

I take issue with almost all of the "alcoholic" advise. I'm not looking for excuses not to call myself one because I'm not in denial about the excess that I drink.

But the definitions have to be meaningful and coherent and they're not used that way a lot of the time.

I think having a propensity to drink alcohol is still a problematic definition. Everyone has a propensity to drink it, it makes most people feel good, the issue is with depndency, some people drink and become dependent where as some people can leave it.

However that's a a gradient it isn't some binary on/off issue, Why don't people who only drink egg nog once a year at xmas quit drinking, why don't we consider them dependent? If it's volume then how much is too much, the point where it interferes with life? Then what about functional alcholics such as myself who have limits they can set and not exceed.

Or is it ability to stop when you start, I can have a few beers in the sun and be fine, sometimes I blow through the lines and will finish a 70cl bottle of Jack in one long drinking session.

My dad drank a lot and so does my brother and my sister so I have no doubt the tendancy to want to drink is there and if that makes me an alcoholic then fine. I really don't know how the word is defined these days it's changed so much.

Drinking Disaronno with Coke at the moment and having a light one.

How much exactly do you drink a day? In units?

If you drink past a certain threshold of an amount, you will have to go to the hospital for withdrawal meds. Without, you could be in a potentially dangerous situation from the DTs.

I know pol isn't my personal blog, but 2 summers ago, I relaxed drinking a lot, and started hiking every few days through the Appalachians. I wanted to be a good father to my new baby which was coming in the early winter. I got in shape and drinking went to near nothing. It turns out I got cucked and she never wanted me around, just was trying to have baby from whoever she could get one from.

Back to the bottle I went.

I've been an every day smoker for six years. Lungs just started feeling bad, all the time. Now I have to cut back

>How much exactly do you drink a day? In units?
I don't know how much a unit is. I drink about 1.75 liters of 100 proof vodka every 7-9 days.

Its a depressant. Yea it makes things worse when you use it regularly

I get smashed and play online video games every weekend. The only way I can play online is smashed now. Last night I did some of the hardest content in the Division last night and was barely conscious. I have a girl avatar but don't talk because I am smashed so people think I am a shy girl and give me shit.

They're not dependent because they don't feel the need to drink all the time.

The definition I would give is you can't live without alcohol. This could mean a few a week, a day, or drinking to oblivion every day.

>I get smashed and play online video games every weekend
Did the same, but the games got old. I can't even get into The Witcher 3 now, which I had been waiting for like the second coming.

I pretty much just shit post on pol, watch torrented movies, and help the Trump campaign as best I can.

That definition is so retarded I think it gave me cancer

You could probably cold turkey at that amount, it wouldn't be dangerous but it would be unpleasant for a few days.

You might feel anxious, have difficulty sleeping, shake, and sweat a bit. Then again you might just have cravings.

I'm also a journalist and it helps me deal with the shit I see as well as write about it.

Thanks user. Thinking about giving it a try. Just wanted to continue that thread another user made last night because it was so interesting. Appreciate the input.

its barely after noon here and im drinking vlad shit tier vodka.
i do this everyday, i dont even make drinks
i just fill my mouth from the bottle, swallow, and occasionally sip some juice or whatever.
half the time i just wash it down with water

High Life is much better

its the champagne of beers

I can only imagine, user.

Right but how do you determine that? If I go a day does that make me not an alcoholic? Does it need to be a week or a month? This is the problem I have, where do you draw the line, a lot of people would say to me that I drink way too much which incidentally I agree with. However what would be the right amount, if I cut back to say just weekends but then go the rest of the week not doing something I enjoy, that's somehow better? Things like limits to stay health are fine, they're less arbitrary and I drink way more than the healthy amount which is my primary reason for wanting to cut back.

I do this, I'm playing The Division as well and play a female avatar but I don't have issues using the mic in fact if you're a good player and can cope while smashed quite often you can make some cool friends and team up for instances.

I drank last night during D&D and I'll drink again tonight then go the rest of next week without drinking, near as I can tell that's close enough to stay health enough. It's just really hard when you finish work and the sun is beaming and you just want to sit in the sun with a cold one.

ive been an alcoholic for half a year now , idrink a bottle of vodka or 2 bottles of wine on my own , or a sixpack of beer albeit beer makes me ragy and sleepy while vodka whiskey doesn´t.

my liver aches now and then but eating some fat food and doing random exercises helps.

i do not care for the outside world , ive had a revelation years ago and took meds , psychosis etc am bipolar 2 too.

i really dont care if i die early or of old age.
alcohol and entertainment are the only things keeping me alive.

my family doesnt know it but suspects it , we are scattered.

my mother is probably heartbroken but i dont care.

i simply stopped caring about most things you throw fusses about.

a person could die infront of me and i wouldn´t flinch because ive been dead for years.

i still feel emotions , i still have urges , wishes but im humble as much as i can be given my situation.

what good is it to live in a world that is against you living at all , what good is it to follow patterns of functional modern slavery when you will still be a slave.

what good is it to be healthy and functional when you can´t own anything of your own without paying taxes , you cant live in a forest in a cuckshed and grill by the fire.

you can´t just go off the grid and be in peace you will be constantly harrassed.

to me it seems all the stress around healthyness and socializing , social status , income outcome , money , luxuries blabla is an illusion that proclaims happynes but if anything at all im much happier than people around me with those so called "functioning lives".

i am a degenerate , a proud degenerate but if you need help and want it - i´ll be there cause i gave up long ago to help myself and accepted the fact that this world is lost.

you come to this terribel site everyday memeing about politics , but you do nothing.

you come to this board everyday and shitpost , but youve no effect on anything.

the future is dark and here to stay.
we are not.