Is this album the peak of Jazz music?
Is this album the peak of Jazz music?
Jose Barnes
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Colton Richardson
No
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This is
Noah Sanchez
No the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack is better
Ian Sullivan
nah it's gotta a Miles Davis or Charles Mingus album
Ascension is great stuff but it's too derivative to be considered peak of anything. Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor both produced better Free Jazz
Luke Fisher
Listen to this.
>too derivative
Elaborate.
Blake Young
No, this is
Julian Gonzalez
Yes, it is objectively the greatest piece of music of the 20th century
Charles Cruz
not him but Ascension is just free jazz by john coltrane with a sprinkle of Black Saint
Xavier Nelson
the peak of jazz would ideally be something that is firmly jazz. Ascension is too far from mainline jazz to overlook the entire genre.
Wyatt Parker
here's a guy who has heard neither album. or hasn't spent enough time with them to comment
Oliver Jenkins
No, him playing with Thelonious was (as far as Coltrane records go)
Luke Hall
Brandon King
Experimental Big Band doesn't equal Black Saint at all.
Landon Torres
I kinda agree with this that album is absolutely killer. Probably some of the best soloing I've ever heard.
And they had great chemistry but Coltrane sounds good playing with anybody
Ayden Morales
jazz fusion is jazz. but you just posted a hipster pitchfork friendly shit band.
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Hunter Myers
ok maybe not black saint but what does ascension have to offer that isnt "ambitious free jazz" which is something free jazz already did, genuinely curious
also sorry I meant Free jazz by Ornette Coleman
Zachary Foster
what is this
Oliver Anderson
>Pitchfork friendly
What
And Snarky Puppy has some of the best instrumentalists active in the jazz scene right now
Lucas Diaz
I see. I don't fully understand your question tho.
Ascension was probably a first in terms of orchestration and scale, but isn't as compositionally strong as stuff like Free Jazz or some of Cecil Taylor's work. It's a bit too much soloing around tones for me which is kinda the limit of Coltrane's compositional style.
Benjamin Stewart
>And Snarky Puppy has some of the best instrumentalists active in the jazz scene right now
No no no
Luke Brooks
the instrumental you posted just doesn't seem to have much soul - it seems very clean and structured - every instrument has its solo bit and they never seem to clash and talk to each other
for such a big (big) band there's a surprising lack of things going on
fusion doesn't have to be this tame
Colton Cook
wow.
that is boring.
anything actively calling itself 'snarky' tends to be somewhat whack
Hudson Rivera
I disdain Coltrane on soprano.. And most free jazz all together. Trane played much better when he was with miles.
Nathaniel Smith
Fair
Joseph Morgan
no, meditations is.
Camden Miller
>Implying
But that's not Machine Gun.
Hunter Brooks
sun ship is amazing. really got into the more 'free' styles of jazz music.
Nathaniel Nelson
>best instrumentalists active in the jazz scene right now
get out
Grayson Scott
Memechine gun.
Evan Sullivan
Is this album a meme? It fucking sounds like what you think hell looks like.
Grayson Barnes
tfw you get fucking destroyed by your wife
Bentley Morales
sanders was better than coltrane, idk about Alice but Transcendence is better than that album so maybe
Caleb Edwards
Oh shit I'll have to check that one out, thanks man