Vegan Thread

Vegan Thread.

I had an argument with you. Yes, you.

We are not ready yet. COME AND FIGHT ME

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I'm vegan and very happy about it, don't force it upon others

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I too enjoy large dicks in my ass

its not about that. we were haviong a discussion on the ethics of animal suffering, after i listed some reasons why veganism is a pretty solid stance from a logical point of view.

FIGHT ME COME AGAIN YOU ETHICS PASCAL GUY

Eat food, tasty, nothing died and you still survive
Or eat food and animals have to die, still survive

It's pretty logical if you are of a compassionate mindset

I'll have a fight. Why the fuck do humans have canine teeth if not for tearing through flesh

why do humans have a brain if not to think.

Keto person here. Haven't eaten greens for over a year, only carbs come from dairy products. Life is great after couple decades of bad diet.

How's your diet with the supplements, whats your feeling and thoughts on the degenerative effects of vegan diet and greater chances for mental sickness?

The plants still die. The plants didn't evolve to be eaten, that's why they are bitter as fuck to eat and can harm you a lot if you don't process them properly.

There's no logic there, illogical if anything.

I bet you step on bugs

Animal suffering is terrible and human greed has pushed it to terrible limits the past hundred years. It will get worse before it gets better.

But is that a good reason to avoid meat all together, for empathetic reasons? Hell no. It only makes you feel better and get favorable thumb ups from the people around you who reinforce such lifestyle.

I want to do keto again but I love beans too much

Surely you can find something to replace it with. I never liked beans. Gf loved them though, but later realized that they occasionally caused stomach ache. Which makes sense, they aren't good for us--except if you look at some nutritional labels and want to add up numbers to be healthy or something.

nobody talking? God damn vegan fucks.

reason one:

less resources are spent, environment is not polluted as much

reason two:

its healthier- you dont have saturated fats from animals which increases heart attack rate and is a primary cause for alzheimers disease

three:

in our globalized society you don even need to suffer from any deficiency, because of the variety that is availible to you.

wtf ? are you ok ?

did animals "evolve to be eaten" ?

youre not very good at biology, are you ?

what the fuck you talking about ?

any studys or evidence on that ?

because i could find quite many that speak against dairy products.

Start producing mainly shitty vegan diet for human consumption instead of superior meat and the resource usage would also grow a lot.

Saturated fat from animals increasing heart attack rate, ok now I know that you have nothing right and base your comment on some shitty old beliefs.

I'm fine, thank you. No, but they sure are great for us. Especially the ruminants what devour grass all day long. Their fat is the best kind of nutrition available for us and has no ill effects.

Yes, there's plenty of them out there. Actual studies. I have no time to source them out for you, but they do exist.

I understand the dairy opposition, as this is environmental thing--everyone hasn't evolved to digest it as well. But even then, the studies out there against dairy are lacking and any diet with other shitty lifestyle choices make any study irrelevant.

I'll take Vitamin B12 deficiency for $500, Alex

that which did not evolve to eat only plants should not eat only plants

Take a look at the Great Pandas. They are carnivores but can survive on a omnivore diet. Thus, they are classified as omnivores.

Nowadays, they are so fucking stupid that they are dying out in the wild because of their diet which consists of eating terribly non-nutritious bamboo sticks all day long. But it is easy, so they base their whole life around that. They even save themselves from physical exertion so they could shit, eat and sleep more easily.

In zoo, they are sometimes fed with a natural bear diet so they can become healthy again.

dude what about cholesterol ?

also, the alzheimer thing is from a recent harvard study.

the thing is, the energy gets lost because everything has an eta smaller than one.

Cholesterol is not BAD for you. It's job is to TAKE CARE of your veins. But if you have a SHIT diet, the cholesterol you produce yourself might do some harm in the very long run which is completely your own fault. This is why you can produce your own cholesterol and eat from animal sources etc, but you can't overdose on it as if you eat too much, you won't produce it.

Trans fats from vegetable oils is something what can totally fuck you up, which means fast food and all sorts of processed food where they use this cheap shit. Never, ever, neveverer use vegetable oils.

Alzheimer has also been proposed as a new Diabetes 3. As this is some serious damage to your body. Diabetes 2 can be gained from fucking your body up for several years, mostly pancreas and insulin, but after your ruin that, other systems start to get ruined.

Saying that, I haven't heard of this Alzheimer and dairy correlation, so I'll have to look into that, thanks for bringing it out.

If animals didn't want to be eaten, why are they made out of food.

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why are you made of food

Correct.
The point exactly

Everything is made out of for for something else

But what is for for?

and why is of for for something else ?

Check-mate Vegans.

pretty much like monkeys have and they eat mostly vegetables, and some insect from time to time

>wUtz OtTo CoReKt?

Food for

I like milk.

Hey Vegans,

If you want everyone to stop eating meat, how will you feed cats and dogs that are domesticated, or are you willing to let them die horribly with starvation?

Also where are you going to put all the sheep and pigs that no longer need to be kept, cows can for their milk...... oh wait... you don't like dairy stuff cause it is from the animal. Well shit cows too also. Where to put them?

What about the farms you have to build to increase crop production to feed everyone, where is the land coming from for them? Cut down forests? The same forests that help clean out the air and produce Oxygen.

Well fuck, you vegans haven't thought it through.

But but... Think about the enviroment and animal suffering, that would be better!

Monkeys are sometimes known for cannibalism to

>2017
>willingly ingesting rotting dead flesh and increasing heart and cancer risks

there's no lack in vegan diet as soon as you care about your health (well, lot's of vegans are vegans just for this reason so...)
it's more unhealthy to eat a piece of meat every day than no eating it in your whole life, also studies backed by the World Health Organization demonstrate that eating red meat gives you cancer as much as smoking

Never met a vegan that could kick anybody's ass

You would need a animal genocide to accomplish that and several species to go extinct for the Farms

>2017
>denying science, evolution and biology

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sometimes when they have nothing to eat, they preffer to do that than dying, but it's not their primary diet

It is 2017 everything gives you cancer

what about David Meyer, Mac Danzing, Scott Jurek, Austin Aries... and the list continues

I never understood those vegans who only eat raw foods.
"boiling carrots? wtf man"
Help me understand this

not in the same proportion

Vegans cry about animal suffering, they obviously haven't seen other predatory animals tear apart their prey while alive.

"But that is nature", so is eating meat it is part of the Human Nature, has been for thousands of years, which is why meat tastes so fucking good, and is loaded with vitamins and proteins to help sustain a healthy lifestyle.

Many people are overweight because companies pump out the left overs into cheap meals, it isn't from overeating premium meat from butchers.

Anyway, Vegans as per usual never thinking of the long term goal, because if they had their way predator animals will rise in numbers and would have to be hunted down to be killed to quell numbers, so much Animal Suffering.

The silver back will sometimes go on hunts to take more land for that group and will kill and eat the baby's of the other group regardless of food supply

>denying science
iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2015/pdfs/pr240_E.pdf
ok kid

Alpha chimps will do it with other baby chimps to cull the genes of the other father from being in their group.

Nature.

Not just chimps either, tigers, lions etc will do the exact same thing.

Fucking Brilliant ain't it.

pandas have a genetic defect that shut off the sensory taste receptors. Don't make bad comparisons. Plus, as others have pointed out, you will have B vitamin deficiencies on a vegan diet.

fake as fuck, I cook vegan food and I have gone to vegan restaurants

vegan food is delicious, you just have to move your ass from your chair and learn something new (it's not painful dude)

Yeah vegans have that great, they take care of their overall health which is GREAT. I fully stand by the overall health, I just completely denounce the vegan/vegetarian diet health benefits. Having to supplement a diet is already a giant red flag, why would you do that when you could get everything you need easily?

There is a lot of hate for meat and FAT. But times are changing and soon it will be cherished, at least so i hope. Hatred of fat has caused so much shitty information in this world , which has lead to diabetic epidemic. Sad.

well that aren't reasons for them to eat meat, just to kill, pretty much like humans with wars :/

dubs confirm

what
I know it is tasty
But I also know there are people who only eat raw greens

I'd rather be wary what one would eat with their HIGHLY NUTRITIOUS RED MEAT what can cause cancer.

Fun fact: dogs love squeaky toys because it sounds like wounded prey squeaking

>An article about processed meat.
>not against eating meat

Bravo kiddo

My point being, vegan diet is retarded and will make you retarded. To put it bluntly.

Vegans are gay. That's just one of the facts of life.
>The craziest girls are the best at fucking.
>Shit stinks
>Milk is for fags
>Vegans are gay

Sorted.

I've been veggie before, I think it's ethically the right thing to do but I like bacon too much to keep it up. Never gone vegan though. How do you guys even live without cheese I'd rather die

You need to understand what Associations means, Red and Processed meats are NOT the cause of cancers but they can help the cancers along.

Just like the Sun can help cancer along.

Like tobacco, which is a plant, can help cancer along too.

Along with vegetables that contain sugars and starches will help cancer along. As do Tomatoes that are high in acidity.

So yeah... shitty study on meat, doesn't change facts that pretty much most things can help along cancer and other diseases.

rice has arsen in it

>Milk is for fags
hahaa you had me up until then what's wrong with milk

Fucking cheese man, fuck. I love Cheddar, it's seriously so good.

>it can help the cancer along

i think you didnt quite understand the connection between dna repair mechanisms, stochastics and cancer.

Oh they will eat the meat, why not? It will sustain them until the next kill.

While vegans cry out Humans can be cruel to animals, and a small % are, animals are far worse and are not known to be empathetic to the victims they pick.

Cheese is the hardest thing. I put mozarisella on pasta etc, violife original grated onto chillis, violife cheddar flavour for sandwiches, burgers, etc.

The whole point of having a moral code is to be better than animals though.

op is fag
post vegans

Mmmm cheddar is good. Also gouda, wensleydale with the cranberries, philadelphia, all of it really
I've tried quite a few of my friends' fake cheeses, some of them aren't terrible but they aren't the same.

Any vegan with any muscle mass uses synthetic drugs to build muscle. As without enough protein, exercise will kill them

come fight me you fag

TRY AND FIGHT ME

What does cancer love to eat? Glucose.

What dies sugar get turned into? Glucose.

What does carbohydrates get turned into? Glucose.

Do you need extra glucose in your diet? No.

Does your body produce your own glucose for anything your body could ever need? Yes.

Ez pz bois, eat keto and be free of cancer.

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Vegans aren't better than animals, they want equality. So it kind of makes sense.

Yeah. If you can't do it then you just can't do it. Look at substituting the other stuff (like milk on cereal) instead?

Well the vast majority of bodybuilders use protein powder. I use vegan protein powder. Who gives a shit. Most of your food isn't "natural" anyway.

No. It isn't. The whole point of having a moral code is for not letting society turn to chaos. Which most humans have and don't need religion or vegan faggotry to have morals

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Will never go full on vegan. Muh gains depend on high sorces of protein, calories, and fat.

LEAVE MY THREAD AND FIGHT ME

(your answer is generally bs, cause it depends on your lifestyle and carbohydrates are better than fats if youre training daily.)

How do you mean? I think the vast majority of humans are better than animals. We don't rape, kill, etc.

Debatable. Either way, "animals do it" carries zero weight in terms of any moral argument.

Why do people use protein powder btw, why can't they just eat real food with protein? Can't be that hard. I'm a Keto'er who has gained plenty of muscle and just eating meat. Easiest gains ever.

Which was not relevant to the pdf posted, it was pinpointing the carcinogenic effect meat has to help cancer along.

Not DNA repair mechanisms etc, you just can't introduce shit out of thin air that has nothing to do with what you posted in the first place.

Fact is, people have cancer in their bodies, all it takes for it to start spreading is a catalyst, for some it is the sun, others harmful fumes, others meat, others vegetables, others nuts, others alcohol etc.

Everyone has cancer cells in their bodies from birth and every year less and less % of the population is having theirs triggered which is good, as bodies are starting to naturally fight off the cells as each generation boosts the immunity against it.

However through no fault of most cancer sufferers world wide, anything can trigger them. And it doesn't have to be unhealthy reasons either.

Already onto that hemp milk is my shit

"real food." What exactly makes protein shakes less real than fish fingers or a cheese sandwich?

Protein powders are shit for your liver user.

I can fight you, you fucking sissy vegan fuck.

And no, It isn't generally bs. But it does depend on the lifestyle, yes, that is correct.

Carbohydrates being better than fat though? You are so fucking wrong there mate.

you are making shit up your ass.
think about what cancer is and where it comes from and what a PROBABILITY is.

then come back and fight me properly.

Congratulations contradicting yourself in a single post. You are what you eat I guess. A vegetable

Violence is overrated

Stupid excuses to try and prove themselves right, explain Aflatoxin B1 which is a high cause of cancerous cells growing.

no, i have literature and you have nothing.

COME AND FIGHT ME YOU PSEUDO FAGGOT

I think the idea that eating animals is "inhumane" is kind of retarded. Your ancestors ate meat user.

I'm not vegan or vegetarian but you're spot on, retards thinking pork that's been processed to fuck is 'real' kek