2.01 Disparities in Hydrocyanic Compound Levels Holocaust deniers often claim that since more hydrocyanic compounds were found in the delousing chambers than in the ruins of the so-called “extermination” chambers at Auschwitz, and the reverse would be true if people were actually gassed there, it is clear that no mass gassings occurred.
But – HCN is far more effective on warm-blooded animals (including humans) than on insects, so the period of exposure to HCN is far longer for delousing clothes than that required for homicidal gassings, and a much lower concentration is necessary to kill people as compared to lice.
2.05 It Was Impossible to Kill 6 Million People at Auschwitz ust look at the photographs of the furnaces of Krema II (Pressac, 367; see picture Furnace.gif to view these installations). There were five Kremas in Auschwitz. Number II, for instance, had 15 huge furnaces, especially designed to burn efficiently and quickly. Each could consume 3 to 4 bodies at once (remember that many children were present, and many of the people were emaciated), and do so in a maximum of 45 minutes. The SS experimented with different combinations of corpse types and coke to determine which would provide the most cost-efficient results! (Müller, 60-61; Klarsfeld, 99-100).
The figure Leuchter gives as the maximum number of people that could be executed in a week – 1693 – is absurd, as is demonstrated by the following calculation for a single Krema, number II:
One gas chamber, about 210 square meters (2220 square feet) in area, easily accommodated a few hundred people, who were crammed into it. Fifteen furnaces, each capable of incinerating at least 3 bodies in 45 minutes, could dispose of at least 720 bodies in a 12-hour day.
Then, you have a lot of other inconsistencies to account for, beyond JUST the trace evidence and chemistry constraints. Sorry, the "gas chambers" myth isn't coming back. Everyone has moved on to the "bullets" doctrine, since those are the only ones there's actual evidence for.
...don't they have video of malnourished jews in concentration camps? Aren't some of these camps still standing?
Kind of hard to deny evidence like that dontchya think?
Andrew Young
that doesn't prove that 6,000,000 jews were killed though
Sebastian Watson
>each capable of incinerating at least 3 bodies in 45 minutes
Haha, no fucking way
t. guy who used to inspect crematoriums for the Air District
Takes at least a good 3-4 hours and that's for ONE person.
Anthony Young
Chemist here. It doesn't matter about the HCN levels for the simple fact that, if you're using that much hydrogen cyanide over a period of time, it will leave prussian blue stains without exception on the masonry. If there is no prussian blue on the masonry of a building it was NOT used regularly for HCN gassing. Period.
Jace Reyes
>shorts pulled up just high enough to hide fat gut
lmao
Sebastian Lopez
what? there was tons of prussian blue left
Owen Cruz
>a fucking leaf
Jack Thomas
it doesnt prove they werent killed
Luke Martin
Not an argument, sorry.
Ethan Thompson
who cares if the holocaust happened?
Nicholas Peterson
Not on the inside of the "gas chambers". Gassing is a highly inefficient way to kill groups of people anyway. If you were going to run a holocaust, you'd line em up along pits and use a firing squad. That's the tried and true way every other regime ever has carried out exterminations.
Gas makes for a better horror story though.
Evan Wright
>Russians coming supply lines >people wonder why the Jews starved
Liam Martinez
Bombing*
Angel Richardson
Firing squad fucks up the mental strength of the troops, like when himmler witnessed a firing squad
Bentley Roberts
and germany already used gas to kill mentally handicaped people with the T4 program
Isaac Cooper
Bullshit. If that was the case, no one would use it. But they do. Every fucking time. Except the Germans. They were SUPER EVIL and used GAS because 6 MILLION.
Robert Nelson
I see, makes perfect sense. Surely you have evidence of the six million dead too?
Xavier Rogers
What are you trying to distract us from now bergowitz?
John Thompson
Firing squad for execution of nations traitors is different than executing massive amounts of civilians
Jason Moore
Got you covered kiddo, Holocaust denyers are easily put down once you factor in THE FACTS
Holocaust deniers often claim that since more hydrocyanic compounds were found in the delousing chambers than in the ruins of the so-called “extermination” chambers at Auschwitz, and the reverse would be true if people were actually gassed there, it is clear that no mass gassings occurred.
But – HCN is far more effective on warm-blooded animals (including humans) than on insects, so the period of exposure to HCN is far longer for delousing clothes than that required for homicidal gassings, and a much lower concentration is necessary to kill people as compared to lice.
A concentration of up to 16,000 ppm (parts per million) is sometimes used, with exposure times of up to 72 hours, to kill insects, but as little as 300 ppm will cause death in humans within fifteen minutes or so.
Because of the relatively small concentrations required to exterminate humans as opposed to lice, and because of the far shorter exposure time required, the HCN in the gas chambers used to kill humans hardly had time to form chemical compounds on the walls.
The gas chambers were not very large (those in Kremas II and III were about 210 square meters), and the Zyklon B was dropped through four openings in the roof, spreading the gas very quickly. These openings are still visible in the ruins of the gas chambers, and rare photographs of them, taken while the camp was in operation, exist, and copies are readily available (Brugioni et al) from the sources noted in Section 6.1, below. Since the concentration used was higher than the lethal one, death was swift. (See picture Krema4.gif Krema IV was above-ground, and the Zyklon B was introduced through clearly visible slits in the walls. See also picture Krema401.gif, which provides a close-up of the wall openings.)
Juan Jenkins
I love how this was posted and the holohoaxer mysteriously went missing. No doubt they will be back tomorrow to post the same thread.
Ryder Jones
You don't get it do ya kid? EVER TIME a regime carries out the extermination of CIVILIANS, it has been done with firing squads. No one has time to wait around for fucking gas. You line em up, and mow em down. Cambodia, Rwanda, Russia, United States, etc.
Christopher Roberts
>Gas makes for a better horror story though.
And more legit sounding, since lice were also blood-sucking parasites.
Julian Morales
>A concentration of up to 16,000 ppm (parts per million) is sometimes used, with exposure times of up to 72 hours, to kill insects, but as little as 300 ppm will cause death in humans within fifteen minutes or so.
This is absolute bullshit and you know it.
Please post a source (that isn't jewishsadstoriesarchive.il)
Jason Hernandez
Dig up Poland, show me the mass graves holding all 6 gorillion and then I'll believe you
Chase Foster
Germany had the most efficient transportation system for prisoners. Are you denying Eichmanns testemony?
Michael Nelson
In B4 HE WAS TORTURED
Xavier White
>Are you denying Eichmanns testemony? Yes. Coercion is a cunt.
Cooper Richardson
that's racist though u iduiot
Michael Price
>implying there is anything wrong with gassing retards
Adrian Taylor
He was literally kidnapped
Nathaniel Wright
You're a fucking moron. The war was funded by jews any damn way. They take the lifeblood of the future EU and wipe away all their pride. Now what, brexit? Merkel gonna do something? Ask the scandicucks they got it worse than we do. I hope you're getting paid to post here.
Nicholas Baker
Its not like it was on LIVE television, where he could say whatever he wanted. Also, what his tapes with that journalist, way before he was captured, where he says they needed to kill even more jews?
Charles Thompson
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Ian Ortiz
>A concentration of up to 16,000 ppm (parts per million) is sometimes used, with exposure times of up to 72 hours, to kill insects, but as little as 300 ppm will cause death in humans within fifteen minutes or so. Two different measurement standards are being used, with the pretense there is only one measurement standard. The measurement standard used for the HCN killing insects is the measurement for killing every single insect. In other words, if there are a thousand insects on a piece of cloth or room, the measurement is for killing every single one of those thousand insects.
With the measurement for humans, on the other hand, what's used is the measurement that can kill a single human being. This measurement is extremely low, because a small percentage of humans have a very low tolerance. In other words, if there were a thousand people in a room, that concentration could kill one person out of those thousand.
The toxicological literature gives two main threshold values of poisonous substances, from Rudolf - codoh.com/found/fndgcger.html :
"The lethal dose 100%, LD100, which gives the concentration or quantity of poison required to kill all (100%) individuals of an observed species. This value is used to make sure that all individuals are successfully killed. The lethal dose 1%, LD1, which gives the concentration or quantity of poison required to kill 1% of all individuals of an observed species. This value is used to mark a threshold beyond which an exposition to that poison is definitively dangerous." The argument that a higher concentration of cyanide was needed to kill lice than humans is a canard, and now you can see how deceptive their argument is. They use two different measurement standards for humans and lice, but at 1st glance you think they are using the same standard.
Blake Jackson
Also, goebbles diaries, Hans franks diaries, alfred rosenbergs diary
Evan Reyes
"absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" doesn't apply here friend.
Landon Allen
Absence of evidence isnt evidence of absence is not evidence of evidence
Tyler Richardson
in germany, it is illegal to question the holocaust.
daily reminder.
Chase Sanders
>each capable of incinerating at least 3 bodies in 45 minutes hahahaha no
Gabriel Roberts
You can post all the convos and testimony you want.
From a purely mathematical and scientifically logistical POV, the holocaust is impossible. You can't run an extermination program of that size in that short of time WHILE fighting a war on two fronts. You don't have the manpower or resources to pull it off. Gas is a VERY inefficient mass-killing method and that's also a fact. Especially HCN of all things. Takes too long under proper conditions.
You know what REALLY happened? Allied bombed the fuck out of German infrastructure across the Reich, cutting off food and medical supplies to their prison camps. Without food or medicine, guess what happens to people in prison? That's right fuckwit! Disease and starvation run like wildfire.
Samuel Phillips
>Also, goebbles diaries The ones that don't mention holocaust in any way? The ones that Goebbels wanted to preserve and made great efforts towards that while apparently nazis removed all mentions of holocaust from every fucking document ever because there aren't any?
Wyatt Rivera
deniers*
Kayden Hill
>A concentration of up to 16,000 ppm (parts per million) is sometimes used, with exposure times of up to 72 hours, to kill insects, but as little as 300 ppm will cause death in humans within fifteen minutes or so.
>The LC50 for gaseous hydrogen cyanide is 100-300 parts per million. Inhalation of cyanide in this range results in death within 10-60 minutes, with death coming more quickly as the concentration increases. Inhalation of 2,000 parts per million hydrogen cyanide causes death within one minute
International Cyanide Management Institute 1400 I Street, NW, Suite 550 Washington, DC 20005, USA
And that's only 50% of the subjects.
Jacob Ortiz
its hard not to deny when its illegal to talk about it in some places. It REALLY makes it difficult for those "theories" to go away when you push people for talking about a subject, thats draconian. The eurocucks have been conquered but I have not been.
Hudson King
The SS and the army were two different organizations. There was enough SS guards to conduct this mission
James Walker
I don't care about what Nazi magic people claimed they used to do this, but they did not pack people into a room like fucking sardines. Fuck everything to do with the ovens. How can anyone possibly suggest that they were this fucking packed in. I wanna see how many people can really fit into those chambers before they would have to play human jenga. How many people were said to be gassed at a time? 4000 or so was it?
Nathaniel James
Its illegal to suicide bomb places, does that mean Muslims are right?
Angel Richardson
It was total war and they were losing, you retard. They needed every man contributing to the war effort.
Ryder Campbell
Well can't upload the image because apparently it's an embedded file or something. Just look up models of the inside of the chambers if you really wanna see.
Joseph Kelly
I just want to leave record that I have nothing to do with this user.
Henry Howard
They do? "Horrible things are happening to the jews, things which I will not speak here, but they all deserve it". Its not the exact quote but I think its close enough to the original.
Oliver Davis
Not for long. Soon you'll be able to put the theories to the test.
Mythbusters Germany
Tyler Garcia
No there wasn't. Germany was fighting for its life while the holocaust was supposedly taking place. They couldn't spare men to gas people with.Hell the camps were understaffed as it was at the time because of how bad the war was going for the krauts. Russia was tearing into that ass.
Blake Rivera
The reason why people say this is because of Stalin's infamous order to his NKVD to dress as Germans when massacring Ukrainian and Polish nationalists.
William Baker
Well that definitely proves that they killed six million jews in ovens.
Henry Hill
They weren't losing at the start of the extermination, retard. Also, fanatics tend to believe in an idea to the end, even if everything is lost. Like Muller believed in the victory at the end, same with millions of germans
Nathaniel Brown
do you know how vague that statement is?
Wyatt Adams
Open fire pits, and it wasnt 6 million it was closer to 2 million total, over one million being from the army groups for the east
Jeremiah Russell
What is typhus
Cooper Rogers
>just look at the photographs of the furnaces of Krema II (Pressac, 367; see picture Furnace.gif to view these installations). There were five Kremas in Auschwitz. Number II, for instance, had 15 huge furnaces, especially designed to burn efficiently and quickly. Each could consume 3 to 4 bodies at once (remember that many children were present, and many of the people were emaciated), and do so in a maximum of 45 minutes. The SS experimented with different combinations of corpse types and coke to determine which would provide the most cost-efficient results! (Müller, 60-61; Klarsfeld, 99-100).
Pure fucking fiction. These things could fit 1 person max and bodies take a long time to burn
3 bodies is horseshit. and it would take round the clock matinence as well as a pully system to achieve if you are lucky 45 bodies a day. But no jewish tricks turn 45 a day at MOST into 720 bodies a day with 15 ovens. Just think of it in a logistical stance. You have a pile of 720 bodies. And 100 people to help get rid of them. Could you do it in one day with 15 furnaces? NO
>One gas chamber, about 210 square meters (2220 square feet) in area, easily accommodated a few hundred people, who were crammed into it.
Which one? gimmie specifics
Gremar rudolf wrote a fantastic book about the logistics. You can find the pdf online easily.
Jason Peterson
Seems like someone's questioning the holocaust. Isn't that illegal in Cucknada?
Asher Cook
Okay, lad. As the Ivans raped there way across eastern europe nobody went, "Hey, maybe we should take some of these able-bodied, military trained men off gassing kikes duty to save our asses."
Easton Clark
Open fire pits
Austin Torres
HA fucking cucknada... oh, wait.
Wyatt Thomas
Can you prove those malnourished people were jews?
Concentration camps were a thing but gas chambers are jewish fiction
Gabriel Edwards
>No doubt they will be back tomorrow to post the same thread.
Of course. :^)
Hunter Rodriguez
Thats a new one
Dylan Walker
Himmler was negotiating peace with the west you dumb fuck. Himmler was commiting treason technically during that time. The SS was loyal to him until the end
Daniel Allen
So once the made up story of ovens is debunked then there are magical open fire pits? Got any evidence?
Robert Collins
How is that new? read Rudolf Hoss's memoirs
Jordan Brown
One might assume that burning millions of jews in open fire pits would leave a lot of ash indeed....
Jackson Bell
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Noah Foster
>Fifteen furnaces, each capable of incinerating at least 3 bodies in 45 minutes, could dispose of at least 720 bodies in a 12-hour day.
Can a modern day crematoria achieve this and compete with nazi furnaces?
Zachary Perez
So what are you saying now? The SS went rogue and was actually illegal kidnapping and gassing kikes?
Hunter Murphy
no one denies the work and detainment camps existed
what people usually deny is the alleged plan to kill all Jews in the world through mass extermination with Zyklon B
Jonathan Anderson
No.
Bentley Cox
Open fire pits apparently. I didn't know circumsisions were performed Sunday nights. The jew here has found fresh blood to dip his pen of lies into
Nathan Lopez
Nope. They don't have nazi magic.
Jaxson Morris
Google it, its in the US
Aiden Ross
The SS was loyal to himmler, and himmler actually struck a deal and wanted one of the main camps to be moved. However, kaltenbrunner stopped this and kept the camp in place. HImmler was actually ready to stop the extermination in a deal with the west
Luis Thomas
>open fire pits
proofs?
Ethan Perry
It's funny because detroit is modeled after a different dresden's tragic event. The conscious loop is about to collapse.
Alexander Moore
A blurry nondescript photo. Wow. Is this an allied bombing? Are those jews? is this in germany? When was this taken? where was this taken? What is the source?
This photo is completly meaningless. It could be the turks burning dead kurds for all i know. It could be the allies clearing up corpses of dead germans
Brandon Morgan
Ive seen that picture before, however, I could not find the origional ohio photo anywhere. Can you please share a link
Austin Price
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Caleb Murphy
I prefer "internment camps" because that's what they were for the jew or "work camp" where they (god forbid) actually had to do manual labor - which is the 'shoah' for them that actually happened. American / RAF pilots shot down over France and captured as POWs were also found emaciated at POW camps. Because the supply lines were being bombed - these POWs knew it was their friends doing it. Starvation happened and corpses had to be burned to prevent the spread of disease
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT YOU LYING KIKES REEEEEEEEEE
I WISH YOU WERE IN REAL GAS CHAMBERS I WISH
Jacob Jackson
Augusta, 1944, Auschwitz, Sonderkommando.
Henry Brown
soon, malta, soon
Carson Howard
Oh wow. It's true
Jaxon Ward
Please find me the original photo
Brody Nguyen
So the SS was loyal to Himmler, who wanted to stop the extermination, but he actually kept his men doing it until the bitter end instead of fighting because he was a fanatic.
Xavier Parker
don't question this evidence, racist
Daniel Peterson
Kaltenbrunner was appointed the new chief, who at the end of the war was able to override himmlers orders. Read Walter Schellenbergs memoirs
Isaiah Campbell
>Look up a pdf File not found >look up youtube link Taken down due to copyright >Look up an imageshack This page is no longer availible
Himmlers orders were stopped by kaltenbrunner, who had a closer path to hitler at the time. Katltenbrunner was a complete fanatic
Logan Howard
>read bergs memoirs You're a broken record Jude. Aren't you the ones that try so hard to disprove "bigots" "personal anecdotes"?
Jordan Nelson
That falls under killing being illegal, so no. If all speech was illegal, I wouldn't bat an eye at Holocaust denial being illegal. It's because that specific thing was illegal that it implies something.
