Any anarchists here? Ancaps need not apply, you are not anarchists

Any anarchists here? Ancaps need not apply, you are not anarchists.

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>anarchists
How does it feel to be 14 and have a life where you plan never to work when you grow up?

I should tell you that your system will never work no matter how many quotes you will collect on youtube

>people who believe in voluntary exchange and non aggression aren't anarchists

Why doesn't anarcho capitalism count?

I am a functioning adult. Nice try though.

Congratulations.

>functioning
Why are anarchists so autistic?

Because voluntary hierarchies are bad or some shit.

It was my honour.

Voluntarily does not necesarilly mean good when a person is stupid as a slave.

>anarchists
new generation, new minority of children

Because it is completely at odds with anarchist anarchist history and theory. From its beginnings, anarchism was distinctly anti-state and anti-capitalism. Take for example the first person to call themselves an anarchist, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon:

"Power, instrument of the collective force, created in society to serve as mediator between capital and labor, has become inescapably enchained to capital and directed against the proletariat. No political reform can resolve this contradiction, since, according to the avowal of politicians themselves, such a reform could only end by giving more energy and expansion to power, and until it had overthrown the hierarchy and dissolved society, power would not be able to attack the prerogatives of monopoly. The problem consists, then, for the working classes, not in capturing, but in defeating both power and monopoly, which would mean to make rise from the bowels of the people, from the depths of labor, a power greater, an action more powerful which would envelop capital and the State and subjugate them."

What about anarchists who are anti-capitalist and anti-communist/socialist?

The Individual Anarchists or Anarchists-without-adjectives of the world? Those influenced by Stirner or Kaczynski.

Just because edgy 14 year old commies call themselves anarchists doesn't mean that's all there is to the idea.

What? If you can leave at any time you aren't a slave. But "capitalism is ebil cuz it hurts my fweelings" or what whatever you guys complain about.

You don't act like a nigger

Individualist anarchists are cool. Stirner and the like heavily influenced social anarchism, and I consider that influence to be largely positive. I've got a copy of The Ego and its Own, myself.

What about Anarchs or Jüngerian Anarchists?

Just because some early anarchists weren't capitalists doesn't mean capitalists can't be anarchists, you fucking child. Do you know that AnCap philosophy is fine with you having your little commune as long as you don't force yourself on anyone? Because all capitalism is is allowing for free exchange.

Ok.

Tumblr tier arguments from a tumblr tier philosophy.

To be fair, I'm not being very coherent right now. I'm going to bed.

I'm not an anarchist, I love this country with all my heart. But it's been broken and raped by the establishment. The government has failed and my fellow americans are either brainwashed or too scared to stand up for them selves.

I say fuck it. Take it down, lets the chips fall where they may.

>Because it is completely at odds with anarchist anarchist history and theory. From its beginnings, anarchism was distinctly anti-state and anti-capitalism

>Anti-capitalism

Explain to me hjow.

What other economic system could work under Anarchism other than capitalism?

Capitalism is the only one that doesn't involve government intervention. So really every anarchist is an Anarcho-Capitalism, unless they also want the government involved, which would make them not anarchist anymore.

I'm not familiar.

No no, you see voluntary contracts are good except ones that involve working for someone else, at which point it's literally worse than Hitler and we have to kill anyone who owns any shred of capital

NOT

Anarchism is at the very most an abstract concept.

It cannot exist in practice.

Masturbating about it in a circle is literally the only thing these people do when they aren't busy trying to fill an innocent person's mind with insane ideas.

They think property is theft and the only way to avoid it is to collectivize it. How? I donno, maybe like some sort of organization that can use force.

First, capitalism does involve government intervention. It requires the state to uphold private property rights, the accumulation of wealth by a minority of the population, and so on. From its emergence, capitalism has been inextricably connected to state power.

As for other economic systems: Given your comment regarding government intervention, I am going to refer you to a Wikipedia article that does a much better job explaining this than I could.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

>Just because the foundations of a political philosophy make it at odds with OUR political philosophy, doesn't mean we can't be part of it!!!!!!
Actually, it does. Kill yourself.

>First, capitalism does involve government intervention
No it doesn't, that's not pure capitalism. Every major country's economy is a mixed economy currently.

>It requires the state to uphold private property rights
Not necessarily.

>the accumulation of wealth by a minority of the population
What's wrong with that?

Unless they literally steal it from someone else they are creating wealth, people freely choose to exchange their money for the "minority of the population"'s good and services.

I really don't get how you think people who don't want the government are not anarchists. Are they authoritarians then?

Anarchism is more than an absence of government. Anarchism, at least in the sense that it is used in the broader anarchist movement, has a set of characteristic that distinguish it from a definition you pull out of a dictionary. As I have mentioned earlier, it is and has been inherently anti-capitalist and anti-state since its inception. In other words, it is an opposition to hierarchy. Capitalism is by its nature a hierarchical economic system. Thus, capitalism and anarchism are incompatible.

Now, you may very well be an anarchist if you use some dictionary definition, and I don't particularly care if you call yourself one. But I don't consider you anarchists at all.

I have never met an anarchist who wasn't a stupid faggot

>In other words, it is an opposition to hierarchy.

But hierarchy is a natural order of the universe?

How exactly are you going to maintain a "no hierarchy" rule?

>I don't particularly care if you call yourself one. But I don't consider you anarchists at all.

And why does your opinion matter?

What does being an Anarchist mean to you? what have you done for "the anarchist movement" recently?

Do you work a job? how do you deal with da man oppressing you with his hierarchy?

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The only way to keep this utopia in line is with a nearly totalitarian state

and tell me ancom, are you just going to stop people from buying and selling goods and services? with force? that sounds like a government to me

>It requires the state to uphold private property rights,
What does left anarchism require to uphold personal (as opposed to private aka capital) property rights? Why does this mechanism magically stop working when extended to capital as well?

i'm an agorist, and i understand that eliminating hierarchy is fucking impossible

why don't you drop this utopian shit and stop making every other anarchist look like a fucking retard, some of us don't want to pay taxes because we know that the state is using our money for evil things

we still want to work, and we still want to own things

This shit makes no sense lmao

>Le everyone will just somehow treat eachothers equally and there will be hierarchy and we will have communism

Anarchy sounds fun in theory,but that would mean 2/3 of the population would die over night. I'm sitting in a room with 3.25 people, doesn't sound too fun now.

How does it feel to hold an opinion so logically incoherent that you are incapable of even articulating its basic tenets without contradicting yourself?

what are you talking about, i'm not a communist

nice straw man tho?

no you i meant him, also i meant to write no hierarchy instead of hierarchy

Seeing ancom mongoloids get fucking trashed always makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

oh its cool, we still dawgs

>ancom, are you just going to stop people from buying and selling goods and services?

Opposing capitalism isn't done by opposing people buying goods and services, it's done by ignoring private property rights.

so a good communist should just start stealing things, and hope the class war comes before prison does?

tell me how your theory can be implemented in the massive global economic market, which relies on a network of countries with different government types working together? how will you make this work without forcing them?

AN

Jesus Christ. Attack Communism, Fascism, Capitalism or Authoritarianism all you like. At least they are all capable of being coherently described.

Anarchism is the kind of theory which could only have been invented by drunk philosophy professors trying to come up with a model of human society even gullible undergraduates couldn't buy into.

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