Communism thread

Communism thread

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Should this thread be a serious one?

fuck you and your communism,i voted for theese motherfuckers in greece and i swear i would rather have had my balls chopped off and fed to me,,fuking useless fuckers all of you

>See a thread about Communism
>Think that should be serious

C'mon fella

name me one motherfucking country under communism that has done or is doing well,,name me one communist country where its citizens dont try and get the fuck out with the first chance they get,,fucin psuedo intellectual faggotry .thats wat it is...great theory but fucking bites in practice

ok so what do u think about DAS KAPITAL?

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Communism is about as successful as this thread.

dumb, real communism is utopia

Failed businessman crys that he can't run a business. Marx was a useless piece of shit.

>See a thread about Communism
>Think that should be serious

C'mon fella

Maybe as your life

> I'm joking

well then.i guess we gotta die and go to heaven .cause theres no way theres ever gonna be a utopia on this earth..

ITT: Tankies and Shills scream at each other to determine which failed ideology is the best.

Protip: Marxism-Leninism will never realize a true Communist society and Capitalism only benefits the dishonest and the wealthy.

Ding dong, your opinion is wrong

It's not the Commies who killed your country, it's us Germans ;) Thank us later fag and keep payin our (((aid)))

tell us ur opinion about it, faggot

yeah..well.. opinions are like assholes ,everybody has one,and you have yours

LMAO

stfu Hans ,and send more money..summer is here and i need beer and ouzo money, so i can get a nice buzz going when i fuck all theese german tourist chics that are here

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u can always fuck yourself

Kill all communists. Every last one of them.

Maybe we can use their lagers

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shut up Fritz

lmao, i'm dying over here

love u so much

no one cares about u

who is him?

I wanna die and I dunno why

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germonie's money guy

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thank u

> >It was the first time that I had ever been in a town where the working class was in the saddle... every wall was scrawled with the hammer and sickle... every church had been gutted... every shop and cafe had an inscription saying it had been collectivised... Waiters and shop-walkers looked you in the eye and treated you as an equal. Nobody said 'Senor' or 'Don'; everyone called everyone else 'comrade' or 'thou'.... Almost my first experience was receiving a lecture from a hotel manager for trying to tip a lift-boy. Down the Ramblas... the loudspeakers were bellowing revolutionary songs all day and far into the night."

Bookchin seems like the Italian word "bucchin" that means cocksucker

> > “The reigning economic system is a vicious circle of isolation. Its technologies are based on isolation, and they contribute to that same isolation. From automobiles to television, the goods that the spectacular system chooses to produce also serve it as weapons for constantly reinforcing the conditions that engender “lonely crowds.”

> "The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

bla bla bla ,,yadda yadda yadda ,,muh insightfull quotes..all deep and shit

Am I the only one that doesn't care about politics?

i agree with u man

>“There is a contradiction between market liberalism and political liberalism. The market liberals (e.g., social conservatives) of today want family values, less government, and maintain the traditions of society (at least in America's case). However, we must face the cultural contradiction of capitalism: the progress of capitalism, which necessitates a consumer culture, undermines the values which render capitalism possible”

>I don;t think and, in fact, refuse to think

>"Being satisfied: this is the general model of being and living whose promoters and supporters do not appreciate the fact that it generates discontent. For the quest for satisfaction and the fact of being satisfied presuppose the fragmentation of 'being' into activities, intentions, needs, all of them well-defined, isolated, separable and separated from the Whole. Is this an art of living? A style? No. It is merely the result and the application to daily life of a management technique and a positive knowledge directed by market research. The economic prevails even in a domain that seemed to elude it: it governs lived experience.”

>“I cannot help fearing that men may reach a point where they look on every new theory as a danger, every innovation as a toilsome trouble, every social advance as a first step toward revolution, and that they may absolutely refuse to move at all.”

>"“The desire to grow rich at all costs, the taste for business, the passion for gain, the pursuit of comfort and material enjoyment are thus the most common preoccupations in despotisms.”

>"Those who praise freedom only for the material benefits it offers have never kept it long.”

oh i think maddafakka..but when i write my thoughts and conclusions down,,they make sense,,

Who is here just to see the porn ads like me?

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>“Most politicians cannot be theorists. First, because they are rarely thinkers; second, because the frenetic lifestyle they impose on themselves leaves no time for big ideas. But most of all because to be a theorist you have to admit the possibility of being wrong – the provisionality of knowledge – and you know you cannot spin your way out of a theoretical problem.”

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>Sempai... I'm going to cum

LMAO

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u piece of shit

>“There are no hierarchies in nature other than those imposed by hierarchical modes of human thought, but rather differences merely in function between and within living things.”

>"Unless we realize that the present market society, structured around the brutally competitive imperative of “grow or die,” is a thoroughly impersonal, self-operating mechanism, we will falsely tend to blame technology as such or population growth as such for environmental problems. We will ignore their root causes, such as trade for profit, industrial expansion, and the identification of “progress” with corporate self-interest. In short, we will tend to focus on the symptoms of a grim social pathology rather than on the pathology itself, and our efforts will be directed toward limited goals whose attainment is more cosmetic than curative.”

>“Any attempt to solve the ecological crisis within a bourgeois framework must be dismissed as chimerical. Capitalism is inherently anti-ecological. Competition and accumulation constitute its very law of life, a law … summarised in the phrase, ‘production for the sake of production.’ Anything, however hallowed or rare, ‘has its price’ and is fair game for the marketplace. In a society of this kind, nature is necessarily treated as a mere resource to be plundered and exploited. The destruction of the natural world, far being the result of mere hubristic blunders, follows inexorably from the very logic of capitalist production.”

>"We have permitted cynical political reactionaries and the spokesmen of large corporations to pre-empt these basic libertarian American ideals. We have permitted them not only to become the specious "voice" of these ideals such that individualism has been used to justify egotism; the "pursuit of happiness" to justify greed, and even our emphasis on local and regional autonomy has been used to justify parochialism, insularism, and exclusivity -- often against ethnic minorities and so-called "deviant" individuals. We have even permitted these reactionaries to stake out a claim to the word "libertarian," a word, in fact, that was literally devised in the 1890s in France by Elisée Reclus as a substitute for the word "anarchist," which the government had rendered an illegal expression for identifying one's views. The propertarians, in effect -- acolytes of Ayn Rand, the "earth mother" of greed, egotism, and the virtues of property -- have appropriated expressions and traditions that should have been expressed by radicals but were willfully neglected because of the lure of European and Asian traditions of "socialism," "socialisms" that are now entering into decline in the very countries in which they originated.”

>Democracy is the road to socialism

> “As societies grow decadent, the language grows decadent, too. Words are used to disguise, not to illuminate, action: you liberate a city by destroying it. Words are to confuse, so that at election time people will solemnly vote against their own interests.”

> “The genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the people from ever questioning the inequity of a system where most people drudge along paying heavy taxes for which they get nothing in return.”

> “Ayn Rand's 'philosophy' is nearly perfect in its immorality, which makes the size of her audience all the more ominous and symptomatic as we enter a curious new phase in our society.... To justify and extol human greed and egotism is to my mind not only immoral, but evil.”

> “The American press exists for one purpose only, and that is to convince Americans that they are living in the greatest and most envied country in the history of the world. The Press tells the American people how awful every other country is and how wonderful the United States is and how evil communism is and how happy they should be to have freedom to buy seven different sorts of detergent.”

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I just wanna die and no one cares, and it's right

>“I am opposing a social order in which it is possible for one man who does absolutely nothing that is useful to amass a fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars, while millions of men and women who work all the days of their lives secure barely enough for a wretched existence.”

“In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the People."

> “I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.”

> “Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.”

14/88

> “Thus did a handful of rapacious citizens come to control all that was worth controlling in America. Thus was the savage and stupid and entirely inappropriate and unnecessary and humorless American class system created. Honest, industrious, peaceful citizens were classed as bloodsuckers, if they asked to be paid a living wage. And they saw that praise was reserved henceforth for those who devised means of getting paid enormously for committing crimes against which no laws had been passed. Thus the American dream turned belly up, turned green, bobbed to the scummy surface of cupidity unlimited, filled with gas, went bang in the noonday sun.”

>sourced from fascist spook book that denies the holocaust

i'm too lazy to search quotes on internet about socialism so fuck you everyone

>“Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.”

>“The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.”

>“The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his 'natural superiors,' and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, callous 'cash payment.' It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom—Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation"

The unlimited escalation of control is a hopeless
response to the predictable breakdowns of the
system. Nothing that is expressed in the known
distribution of political identities is able to lead
beyond the disaster.
Therefore, we begin by withdrawing from them.
We contest nothing, we demand nothing. We
constitute ourselves as a force, as a material force,
as an autonomous material force within the world
civil war. This call sets out the conditions.
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To any moral preoccupation, to any concern for
purity, we substitute the collective working out
of a strategy.
Only that which impedes the increase of our
strength is bad.
It follows from this resolution that economics and
politics are no longer to be distinguished.
We are not afraid of forming gangs; and can only
laugh at those who will decry us as a mafia.

no one is reading these ,dumbass ,cut it out

>Capitalism only benefits the dishonest and the wealthy
Hello, I'm sixteen years old but I know everything.

>“I am truly free only when all human beings, men and women, are equally free. The freedom of other men, far from negating or limiting my freedom, is, on the contrary, its necessary premise and confirmation.”

> “Do you want to make it impossible for anyone to oppress his fellow-man? Then make sure that no one shall possess power.”

you're free to leave the thread

the larger issue with capitalism at this point is that it's inefficient, wasteful, and unsustainable

would Nietzsche be anti-capitalist if he lived today

>sourced from fascist spook book that denies the holocaust

Steiner would consider Communism the king of spooks. Also, communists deny atrocities numbering far higher than the holocaust via the same calculations.

> “The middle classes have a truly extraordinary conception of society. They really believe that human beings . . . have real existence only if they make money or help to make it.”

> “The free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.”

> “What is good for the ruling class, is alleged to be good for the whole of society with which the ruling class identifies itself.”

No. Neither would Stirner. They would both view Communism as autism.

Stirner's theory rejects itself. Spooks are in themselves Spooks. Stirner did little more than what Hobbes already did nearly 200 years before him.

>Nietzsche is Rand is Stirner
pleb please
Stirner would also see our current capitalist society as also filled with spooks.

"It's not a religion? These are people who believe the Invisible Hand of the Market runs everything. They fight holy wars against competing religions like Marxism. Against all evidence that the world is finite, this blind faith that resources will never run out, profits will go on increasing forever, just like the world's populations--more cheap labor, more addicted consumers."

When the government rations that money, you have very little freedom.
Take away the means of production from the productive, everybody can share in on the starvation.
Said a man central to an ideology that destroyed the upper and middle and working classes of countries. Most 'oppressed' people in free markets are victims of their own stupidity (often combined with crony overlords they elect).

Lost

Like this Jew owned skeletor fucking scum who believes Muslims are people.

Facism isn't ideal, it's far too socialist.
But when you're dealing with communists, the state needs resources to kill commie bastards.

In capitalist society, creative activity takes the form of commodity production, namely production of marketable goods, and the results of human activity take the form of commodities. Marketability or saleability is the universal characteristic of all practical activity and all products. The products of human activity which are necessary for survival have the form of saleable goods: they are only available in exchange for money. And money is only available in exchange for commodities. If a large number of men accept the legitimacy of these conventions, if they accept the convention that commodities are a prerequisite for money, and that money is a prerequisite for survival, then they find themselves locked into a vicious circle. Since they have no commodities, their only exit from this circle is to regard themselves, or parts of themselves, as commodities. And this is, in fact, the peculiar "solution" which men impose on themselves in the face of specific material and historical conditions. They do not exchange their bodies or parts of their bodies for money. They exchange the creative content of their lives, their practical daily activity, for money.

As soon as men accept money as an equivalent for life, the sale of living activity becomes a condition for their physical and social survival. Life is exchanged for survival. Creation and production come to mean sold activity. A man's activity is "productive," useful to society, only when it is sold activity. And the man himself is a productive member of society only if the activities of his daily life are sold activities. As soon as people accept the terms of this exchange, daily activity takes the form of universal prostitution.

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>tfw you're so cucked by capitalism you'll villainize the only viable solution
>tfw you're so blinded by commodity that you'll blame irrelevant minorities for all of the worlds problems
>even when the violent minorities are only reacting to the capitalist structure that ruined their nations in the first place
>tfw capital inspires its followers to stop thinking through problems

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