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What have you been listening to recently?
How did you get into jazz?
What are your favourite countries when it comes to jazz (excluding USA)?

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Is there any musician that doesn't hate Kenny Fucking G?

is that the guy from opie & anthony?

The only reason people hate him is because he makes very accessible smooth jazz without even having listened to anything by him
But hoopsie, also happens that 95% of Sup Forumscore is very accessible too yet Sup Forums slaves don't realize that

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would you share the essentials chart?

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Anyone else listen to Cherry Sakura from this year? What did you think? It's one of my favorite albums of the year so far personally. But then again, I only recently got into jazz so I'm still not sure my opinions are credible.

Also, if anyone has recs of examples of non-good jazz (ideally stuff that's stylistically similar to Kind of Blue, Study in Brown, or Shape of Jazz to Come because those are the ones I'm most familiar with) I'm curious to hear them because I still don't really know exactly what to listen for that makes one jazz album great and another not.

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You asked about other countries, I like polish jazz scene, especially from 70s and 80s. It's a bit hard to search for it, as I don't speak the language. Search for Polish Swing Session Donna Lee and if you are lucky, you won't end up on a porn site, although that could be considered even luckier.

are you jazzguitaranon from /gg/ as well?

if so, jonathan kreisberg is awesome, thanks for the rec

i'm torn between taking up the guitar or piano to play jazz

I can't find many reasons why somebody would pick a guitar over a piano to play jazz.
Unless you want to play gipsy.

No, I'm not. Honestly that's really a hard choice, guitar isn't really used a lot in jazz, but the advantage of it is that if you play it well, it is easier to be recognised. Piano is the most used instrument in jazz, I think, and because of that it is harder to be recognised.
Honestly I would choose piano, guitar isn't really a good jazz instrument, which is the reason why it's not popular.

Polish jazz is great, here's my chart (I'm still working on it), it also includes yass. (Yass albums start with Trytony - Tańce Bydgoskie).

Do they really have to put "Polish jazz" in every portrait?

timbre makes me consider it - i love the sound of semi-acoustic guitars

Well, choose the instrument that you enjoy most, don't care about it being popular or not, that's my advice.

Well I guess that's the only reason you can't argue against.
As an amateur jazz guitar player, I still play guitar daily and I don't regret it or anything like that, but I ended up starting to learn piano a year ago because it's hard to top having full control over the harmonic comping and the melody at the same time while soloing.

listening to a lot of tony allen afrobeat recently

you ever seen that youtube channel funkedupeast?

No, but I've just checked it and it's really nice, surely I'm going to go there more often.

I love them equally for the timbre
piano makes sense pragmatically, but I worry I'll only be able to afford a cheap eletronic model, with shit pianissimo that will probably sound too harsh

i reccomend this is you haven't heard it before
youtube.com/watch?v=gRm96SAz8zc

thanks, I'll listen to it tomorrow.

zombie is his best album IMO

Mulatu Astatke

dude ethio-jazz lmao

Chill Jazz recs? Like Song for Debby, Solo Monk, or Relaxin'

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wake up goofballs

posting this again because Ive never seen it mentioned anywhere ever and its really good

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You posting it all the time made me check it out. It's real good, thanks mate!

It's not really a similar album, but the cover always makes me think of pic related which is also very good, albeit very different.

seconding this request

morose jazz, pls

>that filename

I need this album /jazz/. Give me a hand *wink*

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can someone post the blue note one

Thoughts on the new Alex Sipiagin album?

paging jtg

I've been listening to a lot of spiritual jazz lately but I'm looking to get a bit deeper, anybody have any recommendations?

Idris Ackamoor The Pyramids - We Be All Africans (2016)
Gary Bartz NTU Troop - Harlem Bush Music: Uhuru (1971)
Batsumi - Batsumi (1974)
Don Cherry - Don Cherry (1977)
The Pyramids - King of Kings (1974)
Steve Reid - Nova (1976)

Maybe try some traditional African and Indian music too.

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Hey that was me! I have a thousand more recs and I could talk for hours about jazz haha.

Guitar is an incredibly versatile instrument with really interesting harmonic capabilities, but unfortunately most guitarists are decades behind pianists when it comes to modern harmony, voicings, and clever voice leading. That being said, the instrument has these abilities and there are guitarists doing interesting things using these concepts. The guitar is a pretty interesting instrument for jazz because it can play strong single note lines like horn players, but also play chords like a piano player (and switch between the two, like Joe Pass).

That being said, a piano is more practical for composing for bands and every (or nearly every) jazz band leader played some piano to work out ideas on (Mingus actually has a solo piano album which is pretty interesting).

The guitar has better control over the articulation of notes versus piano though (ability to slur, play true legato, attack the note in a variety of different ways, ability to bend pitch, etc).

I play guitar, so I'm biased, but I think the piano is also a great instrument worth learning. That being said, if you want to learn something to be in demand play either bass or drums.

hey, user!

feel free to dump all your jazz guitar recs here, specially new names, but since I'm a noob in this world, classics would be appreciated as well

seconding
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whats some good modern jazz guitar?

I think it's one of his weaker albums yet. The synths were cool in some parts but felt kind of forced and gimmicky in others. The compositions also just don't flow as well as they have on other albums. He's got all the cool polyphony and cross rhythms but it felt forced and unnatural at times. I thought the track with the lyrics felt very out of place as well.

Still some of the tracks were really good, and the solos are pretty much all great.

Here's my full review on RYM
rateyourmusic.com/release/album/alex-sipiagin/moments-captured/

>whats some good modern jazz guitar?
I'm not the one you're asking but I'll rec:

Adam Rogers
Lage Lund
Jonathan Kreisberg
Kurt Rosenwinkel
Mike Moreno

Oh and Gilad Hekselman

Never really see anybody talk about him here but he's incredible

don't like jazz

underrated post

bumping with the jazz AOTY

inb4 it's popular so it must be bad

The classic guys are Wes Montgomery, Lenny Breau, Jim Hall, Joe Pass, Charlie Christian, Django Reinhardt, Ted Greene (mostly for his books, not too many recordings but his books are massively influential. The recordings of him out there show his insane talent though),Grant Green, Kenny Burrell, Barney Kessel, and Ed Bickert.

I'll put a bunch of videos here as recs, the albums they're from are great too.
youtube.com/watch?v=F4PMMYrUhxg
youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U
youtube.com/watch?v=dQi48T4YWh4
youtube.com/watch?v=zwBLC0WKuS0
youtube.com/watch?v=q5ggv-5s4bs
youtube.com/watch?v=8a3qAp81vY8
youtube.com/watch?v=QIV1t70Gek8&l
youtube.com/watch?v=zhlAKSJfLeA

And he's the Kreisberg from the other thread if anyone's curious: youtube.com/watch?v=Daf8R9VEDlU

Seconding:
Lage Lund
Jonathan Kreisberg
Kurt Rosenwinkel
Gilad Hekelsman
and I'll throw in Bill Frisell, Pat Metheny, John Scofield, John McLaughlin, Marc Ribot, George Benson

And one more video:
youtube.com/watch?v=kFMQSHgI4aA

it's not bad because it's popular, it's bad because it's got crappy composition and just average playing

what other jazz albums from this year have you even heard?

thanks, will check those out!

>what other jazz albums from this year have you even heard?
why do you elitist faggots always fall back on this. not an argument.

>elitist
>faggots

elaborate on how you came to these conclusions

Can't seem to stop listening to Chet Baker's vocal albums.

Any similiar musicians/albums to check out?

thanks mate

Surely you can see how ridiculous it is to claim to know the album of the year in a genre if you've only listened to a very small sampling of that genre's releases for the year.

Why are you so defensive? Why don't you answer the question?

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this man.

i been listening to that jawnboi since i was in short pants amigo.

How do the jazz cats of mu think about pic related? I personally love this music, and the movie was great. I feel like Sebastian did get it wrong when he said jazz is dying though.

Anyways I got into jazz because I played drums and I wanted to keep playing in high school. Marching band was out of the question, so I opted for jazz band and I haven't looked back since.

Hope you guys are having a good day :)

This is your movie, then

Imo, piano is more useful for learning and being needed as a musician. Guitar is nice, but hardly anybody is asking for a jazz guitarist. Playing piano gives me a better understanding of the theory since it's so visual for me, and it's all laid out. Piano also helps when learning any other instruments. But if you want guitar, more power to you, it's just my take on it.

jazz cat here. i dont watch movies.

Of course, I loved whiplash! My only problem was that being in a jazz band, and knowing some other people, it is heavily over dramatized. That being said, it's still a wonderful movie, and it has some really great arrangements.

>tfw jazz guitar and not trumpet player
Feels unexpressive man

Contemporary Jazz is split between traditionalists and fusion folks (fusion in this sense encompassing any sort of jazz+ something else, ex: Neo-Soul, Jazz Funk, Jazz Rock, Modern Post-Bop sort of falls in this category too, etc). Traditional jazz that academia focuses on is mostly Charlie Parker to John Coltrane (but not all of Coltrane, pretty much up to Giant Steps).

So Traditionalist Jazz is sort of in a similar state to classical music; appreciated by academia and the musicians who play it, but with a small audience outside of that. Modern Jazz and Fusion Jazz is still very alive though.

Enjoyed La La Land though, I thought the movie misrepresented fusion jazz as pop though and as 'selling out".

This issue is the subject of a fascinating debate between Wynton Marsalis and Herbie Hancock. Can't find it online, but it was called "Wynton Vs. Herbie: The Purist and the Crossbreeder Duke It Out"

lol c'mon m8

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Ive been listening to nothing but new jazz records for the past week, how many records should I listen to before I can say I actually know a thing or two about jazz?

About 500. I'd wager you're able to play the most important jazz standards already?

I know it sounds pretentious but what's more important than listening to a lot of different records, is making sure you're listening to them really deeply, which, if you haven't already listened to a lot of jazz, probably means listening to the same record at least 3-4 times.

Find a few that you really like and make sure you listen to them thoroughly.

What instrument do you play?

Please rec me some fast and crazy jazz. Any style goes as long as its fast and energetic.

youtube.com/watch?v=yke9KZpH5vU

youtube.com/watch?v=W1zXXeGeGGg

ha not really but I'm educating myself on theory/history and acquiring a taste, right now Im into John Coltrane and Mingus, also a lot of bebop stuff. I really like "Cheesecake" by Dexter Gordon that song is pretty stuck in my head

Im trying to just find whats out there then go back and listen to my favorites

Guitar, I'd like to play piano but I suck at it, know nothing about playing wind instruments

A lot of these ratings are just first impressions, but many I have listened to (most of the Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, Ornette Coleman and Miles Davis records, also Go!) and have a pretty well thought out score

forgot pic

youtube.com/watch?v=ZHxqX26Id0Y

youtube.com/watch?v=-QdmD-rDpG4

>Karma 1 star
lol I like you

thanks checking these out now

it SOUNDS good kinda but its so obnoxiously flashy and its a disgusting ripoff of A Love Supreme

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Anyone have an opinion they want to share about Free Jazz?

" an approach to jazz music that was first developed in the 1950s and 1960s as musicians attempted to alter, extend, or break down jazz convention, often by discarding fixed chord changes or tempos. Though the music of free jazz composers varied widely, a common feature was dissatisfaction with the limitations of bebop, hard bop, and modal jazz that had developed in the 1940s and 1950s. Often described as avant-garde, free jazz has also been described as an attempt to return jazz to its primitive, often religious, roots and emphasis on collective improvisation."

youtube.com/watch?v=8bRTFr0ytA8

Has anyone here read Charles Mingus' autobiography? I'm reading it now and this shit's insane. What are some other jazz books I should pick up?

lmao Mingus was a maniac, that book has some hilarious passages. Pick up Miles's autobiography, if only for the anecdote about Bird getting a blowjob while eating fried chicken in a taxi while Miles watched horrified.

Yeah, if you're a fan of academia/academic papers there are a few papers supporting a theory of free jazz being inherently political, which is pretty strongly backed up. There are also papers disputing that, albeit not convincingly. I'll give names if anyone want to know.

political as in aligning with a particular ideology?