How was this not considered a war crime?

How was this not considered a war crime?

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I despise America but fuck Japan they needed a good fuck in the ass. The shit they did during WW2 made the nazis look like fucking pacifists in comparison.

They were freedom bombs thats why

because 'Murica

It was just a reaction from an action. they were told to surrender and ignored the US. BOOM! 129k dead, then they surrendered, dumbasses. PROTIP: Don't fuck with freedom.

America does not commit crimes.

Because there were no war crimes yet, the Geneva convention met to define articles of war crimes AFTER the war ended.

because hurr durr america good guys tv said so

the nukes didn't do any more damage than traditional bombing had done up to that point. What's the difference between killing people with 1000 bombs and killing people with 1 bomb? Is one more moral?

because america is war police.

It was a retaliation. Get over it. If not for this there'd be no Godzilla or creepy Japanese shit you fap too.

you should read the wiki article about that "ignoring"

the difference is massive civilian targets, massive radiation poisoning to survivors that continued for decades.

The picture is from Tokyo. Tokyo was not a-bombed.

>It was a retaliation.
You nuked a CITY, with civilians, not a military base.

They werent warned the first time they nuked them.

of course it was a warcrime! even twice! but the allied were the judjes about that at the time.

That's not true.

A 50+ year study of atomic bomb survivors found an increased cancer incidence of 1 per 1000 greater than the general population of Japan.

Radiation poisoning either kills you or it doesnt. If it's acute enough, (600 rem or more) then you just die, and all there is to do is palliative care. Below that most adults can survive and recover.

t. Nuclear plant operator with security clearance to read the files.

not OP, however i don't see that as a bad thing.

Country pokes big guy, big guy swings and fucks up the country's organs(cities)


People put too much value to human life

kek you have no idea what are you talking about

bombing of all japanese cities (fires from regular bombs killed way more civillians than a-bombs), bombing of dresden - all were war crimes by those day standarts

>You nuked a city
No, Truman and the crew of the Eola Gay nuked a city, stop being a faggot.

>It was full of civilians.
It was also full of shipyards supplying the Imperial Japanese Navy, and munitions plants.

You have read about WWII right? The firebombing of Tokyo killed more people than the A bomb, so did the bombing of Dresden, and Stalingrad, and Nanjing, and...

It was the violent end to a violent, total war.

The US did a LOT to warn the people in the area. The fact that they were too brainwashed by their government doesn't change the fact that the US dropped flyers, did mass message campaigns, even humanitarian aids to try and convince the mainland to surrender.

The fact that they didn't surrender after the first bomb was dropped showed how brain washed even the government was. The fact that the UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER had a few conditions made by the Japanese showed how murderous they are.

This is what happens when war materials are manufactured within urban areas. The allies targeted the factories and the neighboring homes were caught in the attack.

Protip: Don't hide factories behind houses if you don't want the houses bombed.

OP, do a little research next time, and you won't come out looking like a retard.

I just wanted to say that i enjoy these conversations, anons.
God bless

>thousands of civilian deaths
>i don't see that as a bad thing.
>People put too much value to human life
Ok. Kill yourself.

History is written by the victor

how else do you want to make pre-WW2-japanese government surrender?
They would happily sacrifice dozens of thousands lives just to get the win otherwise

Because the West is filled with hypocrisy. Japan and the other Axis powers did unforgivable things, but the west often likes to pretend that they're innocent when in fact they nuked civilians, propped up dictatorships, and even persecuted their own people. None of the governments back then were innocent.

Seems you're doing everything you can to only look at this one way. Why don't you retrace the steps and see what led us down this decision to begin with.

Not really. History is written by anyone and everyone recounting the past

>PROTIP: Don't fuck with freedom.
As an American: What fucking freedom do we have that the others don't? If anything, we're not free, we're only freer than certain other countries.

of course all the regular bombs killed more people dumbass

there were thousands of times more of those than there were atom bombs

This. Go wikipedia 'Unit 732'.
Makes the Holocaust look like a summer camp

cuz when yankees do it its named democracy and freedom

Because Einstein, at the time there was no law against weapons of mass destruction. Where do you think the law originated? Since there was no law, there was no crime. It also saved many more than it killed. Japan would have happily sent it's entire population to war if it would let them win. Oh and it was not Tokyo.

freedom of speech for example ?
in most countries you can get jailed for publicly aligning yourself with nazis and shit like that

>People put too much value to human life
I agree. Make an example of yourself and be an hero.

You understand history poorly.

The US targeted Hiroshima and Nagasaki because due to the rivers acting as firebreaks, "normal" firebombing would be ineffective

>suicide and sacrifice are the same

god damn roody-poo

because america won and was able to decide what was a "war crime" and what not

and the truth is that japs didnt give a fuck about atomic bombs but russians were coming from the west and if they came in they would ruin japan with communism
thats why japs surrendered , they were afraid of losing their traditions and shit

Not knowing that Japan was genociding democratic and socialist Chinese..
>>fail

Because without those nukes. The Japanese army would have destroyed the entiry of Japan. They were that fucking crazy.

They were totally willing to have a huge bloody ground war on their own soil. If that had happened, alot more people would have died.

You must be young. Freedom doesn't mean being free in the USA. Freedom is our overwhelming power. The people fear our freedom. We should all fear it.

>Japan is one person
Last time I checked it wasn't a democracy, the civilians had nothing to do with it.

Yes, what do you want. ALL of the civilians dying?.

Or, just a few in comparison to that.?

The Japanese army would have completely destroyed every last bit of Japan and order civilians to fucking kill themselves

Look, you dumb as fuck millenials. The file name says Tokyo. T-O-K-Y-O. Dear shit-for-brains, Tokyo was fire bombed, not nuked. All the houses were wood.

God damned fuck morons. Go back to something you know, like games and spinners.

American propaganda.
>no, the only other option was to set up a ground invasion and kill every civilian in sight, it was the only way!

>How was this not considered a war crime?

Cause Jebus

>if we didn't nuke those cities everyone would have died
Do you honestly believe that?

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>>tell us more about Imperial Japan, because I do believe every woman and child had been declared "soldiers" by their own government.

Talk shit get hit faggots

Japanese government was fucking nuts nigga, they would gladly throw their entire population on battlefields just to win shit

>Freedom doesn't mean being free in the USA. Freedom is our overwhelming power. The people fear our freedom. We should all fear it.
Is this a genuine post? Holy shit Americans are delusional.

Just like the Vietnam war?

a land invasion would have cost more american and japanese lives.

Not a crime because US won.

The filename is not the image. The image is Nagasaki after the nuke. Learn history please and how to recognize Iconic images.

Tokyo was firebombed not nuked you dip

Conventional bombing runs against mainland Japan killed more people than the two nuclear bombs combined.

It was the russians that were leading them to surrender. The americans dropped the bombs hoping to end hte war sooner so the Soviets wouldn't be able to take Manchuria and Korea as new territory. The whole end game of the war was to stop the soviets but still, it was them that caused the end of the war and the surrender of Japan. The emperor wanted already to surrender and was in the process of figuring out how to get the military to follow the order to surrender and not go for an all out last stand and attrition.

this guy is reeeeeeeeee
%if bait?

False equivalency.

pic related

because it was entirely a civilian target.....

was vietnam threat to everyone around them ?
also, mericans lost that one

The military base you talk of was also home to civilians as there was housing there for the soldiers family. It was also a holiday so there where more families on base then normal.

the navy was done at that point lol so was the army

>735361202 wrong for dis

We won.

The image is of Nagasaki, the troll just renamed for the sole purpose of trolling idiots like you.

Do you have any bloody idea how absolutely crazy the japanese were?. Germans were bad. Russians worse. But they dont even come close to the Japanese. Anything the Russians or Germans did, Japan did it tenfold. They had allready ordered civilians to commit suicide whenever the Americans came to them.

They pretty much convinced that the enemies were like demons and had nothing good in them. There were soldiers trying to fucking save these people, but they were so brainwashed that they fucking threw themselves off of cliffs......

Just imagine being so brainwashed by a government that you feel the need to throw your entire family off a cliff. This is how insane Japan was

Not to the Japanese
you are using two variables// The american standard for the accusations and the japanese model for the defense. READ YOU HISTORY. NO CIVILIANS/. dumbfuk

Because Americans are retards and refuse to accept that """their""" country can do anything wrong because America is a reincarnation of God himself.

Do those look like the Nagasaki bridges to you? It's the result of the firebombing campaign against Tokyo. Just like it says on the tin you sanctimonious prick

they were penning the will to surrender before the bombs were dropped... and it had nothing to do with the bombs, it had to do with the Soviets about to take Manchuria and Korea and then a land invasion of Japan. The US wasn't capable of a land invasion but the soviets were and they reeeeeeaaallly didn't want that to happen.

The vietnamese were alot nicer compared to the Japanese

People dont seem to realize how completely batshit insane Japan was at the time. They were North Korea levels of insane, only with an actually capable army and a massive naval fleet

just reverse image search the OP pic and you'll see several independent websites calling it Tokyo

lets just do this

Your discussion and point is mute as long as you resort to name calling.

Wow it's almost as if you only read one side of history from a super uber biased american view point by a bald eagle dick sucking vantage point....

you mean the soviets ?

It's moot you ignorant dip

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>The vietnamese were alot nicer
I was referring to the USA

insert picture of boy scouts here

I'm Indonesian, my family was on the recieving end of the Japanese.

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This.

Yeah it's similar a bit. Throwing soldiers into a fight for a pointless cause

>point is mute

Kek

No it's mute because nobody is listening you Neanderthal!

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2 nukes wasn't enough

victors

history

writing.

Most unnoticed fact. incendiary bomb=/=atomic bomb

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lel nice angry punctuation

nigger they were ready to surrender but the yanks wanted a demonstration of the bomb to attempt to scare the soviets

>Go wikipedia ____.
Wikipedia is a shill board. Pls don't damage Sup Forums's credibility by citing unreliable Web sites as sources here.

yes this means civilians deserved to burn to death