GENDER IS DETERMINED AT CONCEPTION, GENDER IDENTITY IS DETERMINED IN THE WOMB

This was David Reimer. He was born along with a twin brother. They both got circumcised but Davids circumcision went horribly wrong.
A psychologist by the name of John Money, believed that gender was learned and though that they could just give the 22 month old a sexual reassignment and raise him as a grill.

He was raised as a grill but always tended to lean towards being masculine. Eventually David found out and tried to live as a man but he never had his man parts so he an heroed.

This is your first red pill on transgenderism Sup Forums. Let that sink in.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

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>get kiked
>morph into a woman

What if that's how all women are created

>Cutting a baby's dick
>cutting off his dick
>BS psych stuff
>Suicide
that's the saddest and most degenerate thing I've every read

We learned about this in high school, I thought it would have been taught everywhere but apparently I was wrong.

>On the morning of May 4, 2004, Reimer drove to a grocery store's parking lot and took his own life by shooting himself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun.He was 38 years old.

Damn..... Makes you think...
Also nice repeating digits

fun fact John Money was a known pedo and made the twins "practice" sex with each other.

>transgender "people" kill themselves
>somehow this is the first redpill on the subject
You're a bit late on this OP.

you should lurk some more

How'd he find out?

Kek has spoken

Nice digits, did I do it right this time?

chekt and rekt

What a great case study of a single anecdote.

No one is being paid to shill for Hillary by the way. It's a Republican-funded lie and a pathetic attempt to smear her campaign.

I don't feel you understand the point of this particular case.

I love new people

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You just lost your soul.

applies to 99% of posters on Sup Forums
likely myself included.

his parents told him eventually because he was constantly depressed and talking about how his body felt "wrong" and such. they thought it would cure his depression and it did for a while then he sunk back in because he couldn't be a man

Praise Kek !!!!!!!

holy shit that prediction

No this faggot:

>GENDER IS DETERMINED AT CONCEPTION, GENDER IDENTITY IS DETERMINED IN THE WOMB


>This was later expanded into a full-length book As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl, in which Colapinto described how—contrary to Money's reports—when living as Brenda, Reimer did not identify as a girl. He was ostracized and bullied by peers, and neither frilly dresses (which he was forced to wear during frigid Winnipeg winters) nor female hormones made him feel female. By the age of 13, Reimer was experiencing suicidal depression, and he told his parents he would take his own life if they made him see John Money again. Finally on March 14th, 1980, Reimer's parents told him the truth about his gender reassignment, following advice from Reimer's endocrinologist and psychiatrist. At 14, having been informed of his past by his father, Reimer decided to assume a male gender identity, calling himself David. By 1987, Reimer had undergone treatment to reverse the reassignment, including testosterone injections, a double mastectomy, and two phalloplasty operations. On September 22, 1990, he married Jane Fontaine and became a stepfather to her three children.

Well shit, just another reason to not have your kid circumcised, it should be against human rights, along with gender reassignment at birth that's fucked up, I'd rather be a eunuch than a tranny.

>On the morning of May 4, 2004, Reimer drove to a grocery store's parking lot and took her own life by shooting herself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun. She was 38 years old.

>How'd she find out?

>her parents told her eventually because she was constantly depressed and talking about how her body felt "wrong" and such. they thought it would cure her depression and it did for a while then she sunk back in because she couldn't be a man

fixed

nice dub dubs fella

>This is your first red pill on transgenderism Sup Forums. Let that sink in.

MORON

THIS IS YOUR LIFE IN BOTCHED MUTILATION

>psychologist
Kek. Show me a certified physician who says it's possible for a boy to have a female-wired brain. Psychologists are social scientists, even the ones who study the medical side. I would know, I majored in psychology and went BACK to school after I realized that I was lying to myself and only wanted to feel smart.

Here's Psych 101 for anyone who didn't take it in college:
>This guy thinks the mind works this way
>This guy thinks the mind works this other way
>Who is correct? It's impossible to know for sure.

How do you even call those?
Doubletrips?
Sextus?

now this is shitposting

sexts

welcome to four chinz

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Sextuplets mmmmm

Sex or hexs

I think I redeemed myself for allowing him to get sex's

That's the whole point, Money was wrong. Gender is determines at conception but when the fetus is developing, its body follows the XY script but the brain needs a dose of testosterone to masculinize. If the brain doesnt get it, its stays feminine.

In Reimers case, the brain masculinized but he had his bits cut off and was raised a grill.

It never took so that is evidence that the way your brain is wired determines your gender identity. Not your actual body or the way you are raised.

best part is the doctor that botched the circumcision knew john money (who for years had talked about trying the twins experiment) so its totally possible that he did it on purpose

...

KEK, HEAR MY PRAYERS

I pray not for strength, for I have plenty.

I pray not for weapons, for I have plenty.

I pray not for will, FOR I HAVE PLENTY.

I PRAY FOR MEN, ALLIES, IN THE COMING CRUSADE, DEFENDERS OF TRUTH, BEAUTY, AND JUSTICE

MAY KEK BLESS THIS THREAD AND BLESS THE ARMIES OF THE WEST

DEUS VULT

GENDER IS A CHOICE AND FETUSES ARE NOT HUMAN - FETUSES HAVE NO GENDER.

Heil Kek!

So whatever happened to the doctor that did this to him? Please tell me he's in prison.

Show your wife and her son what you accomplished. You will never be this lucky again. This was it. It's all down hill from here.

>flag

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He died in 2006. He was 84yo. One day short of his 85th b-day due to complications w/ Parkinson

>Money claimed that media response to the exposé was due to right-wing media bias and "the antifeminist movement." He claimed his detractors believed "masculinity and femininity are built into the genes so women should get back to the mattress and the kitchen." However, intersex activists also criticized Money, stating that the unreported failure had led to the surgical reassignment of thousands of infants as a matter of policy. Privately, Money was mortified by the case, colleagues said, and as a rule did not discuss it. Money's own views also developed and changed over the years..

Well that's even more fucked up, was his doctor Joseph Mengele?

>one anecdotal case

So what? John Money was completely right, gender is social, not biological. The father revealed the circumcision accident to this case's patient and that's probably what caused the distress. Male and female genitalia grow out of the same starting material, it's interchangeable with surgery. This is why SRS is a legitimate medical procedure.

It was reveled later in life though, that didn't prove it was social.

You want more fucked up?

>In 2000, David and his twin brother (Brian) alleged that Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving "thrusting movements", with David playing the bottom role. He said as a child, Money forced him go "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks," and that Money forced David to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Money reportedly took photographs of the two children doing these activities. Money's rationale for these various treatments was his belief that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".

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SEXTUPLE REMINDER TO

LURK MOAR NEW FAGGOTS

chekt and kekt

fuck me he should have been tortured to death, he deserved it. It is immoral not to punish evil like that.

John Money was great to troll /lgbt/ with.

He's basically confirmed for having a disgusting gender transformation fetish and he even molested the tranny boy during his little experiments.

Not to mention he was on the forefront about muh social construct theory.

I read that earlier in thread, too bad Money didn't get a .45 between his eyes, and what the fuck is wrong with the parents? But also, is that the first recorded event of underage trap porn?

>the doctor that botched the circumcision knew john money

Source / proofs?

CBC long ago did a whole documentary on this. The guy totally knew well before his father said anything. He kept wanting to play with trucks and not dolls as a kid and had to be "corrected."

He didnt just cause one child to lose their junk:

>For the first thirty years after Dr. Money's initial report that the reassignment had been a success, Dr. Money's view of the malleability of gender became the dominant viewpoint among physicians and doctors, reassuring them that sexual reassignment was the correct decision in certain instances, resulting in thousands of sexual reassignments.

>raised as a GRILL

Yeah Money was a complete scumfuck, he is no doubt burning in Hell forever now.

How old are you? I'm sure it's been wiped from the textbooks by now.

wrecked and checked

>cut baby dick off by accident
>be afraid of massive law suit
>"you know goys, this is a good thing. You should make this boy a girl!. I will only charge you $75,000"
>"thank you doctor sheckel moneystein."
Pic related

the people who experimented on him like that should be gassed.

We should take this as a reminder to take some time off from shit posting, clear out heads, and lurk more.

As a twin this hits close to home. People think of twins as science projects and genetic anomalies (which is accurate). You also have an unusually close bond with your pair and for me become very emotionally connected and concerned about your twin. This is really fucked and because he was a doctor or psychiatrist he had protection and support by society to conduct his experiments. Literally no worse than a 21st century witch doctor operating openly in american society.

the fuck

Hope so

>Money held the view that affectional pedophilia is caused by a surplus of parental love that became erotic, and is not a behavioral disorder. Rather, he took the position that heterosexuality is another example of a societal and therefore superficial, ideological concept.

>$0.02 was deposited into your account.

Okay, but did you fug your twin?

Disturbing but not really surprising this was allowed to happen. You really can't trust anyone unless you know them personally, including doctors and psychiatrists.

give me a name and I will kill him

this kike ritual must harm European people no more

I'm only 21, our sociology teacher was very cool though, he didn't spare his criticism of Money or the details of the case and he outright said that anyone who claims gender is a social construct is categorically wrong.

an hero is the ending to every trans story i've seen

lol, no. He got to hook up with a girl once because of me though, a case of mistaken identity.

LORD KEK IS WITH US

Their suicide rate is astronomical, they are almost all on anti-depressants, they are completely doomed.

In the future people will look back on us in complete disdain for allowing things like this to happen.

>mistaken identity

Does it really count as separate identities when you two have the same body and childhood background? You're basically just two copies of the same person.

If you see a doctor you will talked to about it eventually. It's part of their job to address any possible issues. There are other cases of surgical alterations of genetic disorders being hidden from people and it's not better to just be shocked you moron. How could you trust your own parents after they've lied to you for years. This isn't fucking Santa Claus it's about who you are.

>The creep's last name is literally money

That was one psychologist that failed high school biology.

Oh I will punish him and you can watch if you like. And anyone who replies to this post.

How you say? Well I will raise him from hell, since I created it. :)

He said this in 1991 in PAIDIKA: The Journal of Paedophilia:

>If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ... then I would not call it pathological in any way.

Lord Kek has reminded us of his historical command.

One would be wise to obey

Eh, good enough.

My best friends since I was like 1 year old are twins and they pulled all sorts of shit in school.
Going to each others classes, one time they even switched clothes just to screw with a teacher we all hated.
Best part was when one had forgotten his homework stuff and they just switched places when the teacher wasn't looking.
Utterly hilarious because I never had any issues telling them apart no matter what.

>The father revealed the circumcision accident to this case's patient and that's probably what caused the distress.
No you fucking idiot. Not even trannies would believe this. The dominant theory is that prenatal hormones can fuck up people's brains in the womb and cause gender dysphoria. Nobody believes you can just pump hormones into any kid and have a successful transition anymore.

Most trannies just have an extreme AGP fetish though.

John Money is just a sick fuck who wanted a little pet baby boy he could sexually experiment on to explore his fetish.

here's a docu about him, fucked up but interesting stuff

youtube.com/watch?v=9LQBcAVghu4

Wow really makes you think.

We have different personalities interestingly. I'm actually not 100% sure we are identical. Although we look more alike than just brothers, I've always been told we haven't had a specific test to confirm. Also one twin always develops a little more in the womb and gets more resources, my hypothesis is they have a more aggressive personality as a result. Feels bad my twin was smaller because I was stealing all his energy.

another docu with different footage

vimeo.com/55409956

>fun fact
Did you read the wiki?
Like everyone else?
Leafs

Does it makes you think of this Jared?

>Psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned.
>John Money
Every time.

Praise be unto kek

I thought gender was a social construct though.

Not convenient anymore?

I fuckin' hate leftists.

At least you didnt absorb him Rusty.

If gender was a social construct then transgenderism would be pretty moot and very open to discrimination wouldn't it?
I mean, it'd basically mean trans people don't actually have a problem or a reason to transition

Bingo. This is why TERFs exist.

could have had a tumor I found decades later that was a fossilized fetus. so I got that going for me.