This movie is superior to Goodfellas

This movie is superior to Goodfellas.
Prove me wrong.

Goodfellas was a more cohesive story, Casino had better actors and general style. None of them is perfect though.

I agree senpai. I make regular threads about how Casino is better than Plebfellas, and it brings out reddit like flies around a shit

Casino is 30 minutes too long. I am too autistic to fully appreciate a 3 hour movie.

Goodfellas > Casino

both poop with annoying narration

"I'm too autistic to focus on sounds and pictures unless they're FOOM BOOM KRAKOW"

wolf of wall street was 3 hours right?

easily worst movie of all time.

This movie superior to either.
Prove me wrong.

>Laurence Fishburne, David Caruso, Wesley Snipes
>De Niro, Stone, Pesci
you having a giraffe?

>easily worst movie of all time.
Not worst of all time bu one of Memecese's worst. Everything past the 80s is pretty shit tier 2bh. I don't know how you can go from hard kino like Raging Bull to video game playing 14 year old fodder like Goodfellas and The Departed.

It refined a lot of what goodfellas did, but coming just after, a lot of its style loses its effect.

Christopher Walken > all of those jokers

>putting goodfellas and the departed in the same category

Yeah, other people sure are retards, user, not you...

The editing in goodfellas was god-tier. Nobody had done a film so frantic before, and it went very well with the story and its narrator.
Unfortunately, it was imitated to death, starting with scorsese himself in casino, which is why it's considered inferior to goodfellas. Also, this style of frantic narration and editing was better executed in Casino, but didn't go as well with this film's story and narrator.

It is superior.
The scene where they whack Pesci and his brother is sick.

Wrong, sharon stone ruins the move for me. She is an insufferable bitch.
Also A Bronx tale is better than both.

Abel Ferrara plz go

> freak you Sam Rothstein freakkkk youuuu

>The editing in goodfellas was god-tier
When the end goal is "entertainment" then it doesn't matter how good it is. It's always going to be pandering anti-art at the end of the day. I don't doubt Scorcese's talent as film maker, but a long time ago he decided to use those powers for evil instead of good.

Nothing that engages literal video game players is a real film imo. Those are the exact people you should be punishing.

In Italy we say "Casinò", because "Casino" means brothel

>sharon stone ruins the move for me. She is an insufferable bitch.
She's the best part of the movie. The other main actors are just giving the most one note "meme" version of performances that we've all seen them give better elsewhere.

FREAK YOU

First of all, I doubt the video-game playing crowd went to see goodfellas in theaters much when it came out.
And, if you don't see the importance editing has in order to make goodfellas (or almost any other great movie) what it is, don't bother talking.

her attitude plays a big part in the whole downfall of the movie

But I agree with you user

You are most likely right, but it doesnt matter to me. I despise her entire character and what it represents and it pisses me off to the point i cant enjoy the movie. Deniro should have left/killed her the first time she lied. Or never got with her in the first place cause she is a literal gold digging succubus.
To clarify i like sharon stone and think she is a good actress, im saying i cant stand her character.

>And, if you don't see the importance editing has in order to make goodfellas (or almost any other great movie) what it is, don't bother talking.
If the end result is entertainment then how you can support it artistically? You could put all the craftsmanship in the world into a machine that murders white babies and I'm supposed to respect it?
>I doubt the video-game playing crowd went to see goodfellas in theaters much when it came out.
That's just an age thing. They audiences that it catered to were those who carried the closest anologue to today's "adult" video game player. Would you agree that there would have been a lot of crossover in terms of the goodfellas audience and the pulp fiction audience?

Both movies are 10/10 kinos, how about that, youse cocksuckers youse?

They're not even films. When the 90s started Scorcese moved away from Kino and instead began to make "movies". You can argue that they're some of the best "movies" ever made, but they're still fundamentally "Movies" and so can never be considered on the highest plane of cinema.

First of all, sorry, I didn't know having fun was a bad thing.

Secondly, YOU view this as entertainment when this movie and its rhythm are meant to portray how a gangster's lifestyle is unsustainable and undesirable for normal people.

Goodfellas feels like a parody of The Godfather

Casinos superior

Great, another faggot who thinks calling something film or movie is an argument in itself

I love them both.

The desire for fun is the root cause of all mankind's problems.
>this movie and its rhythm are meant to portray how a gangster's lifestyle is unsustainable and undesirable for normal people.
And you don't think that the film attempts to present this is an entertaining way. You don't think that most people who watch this movie are "entertained"?

If you want to see a non-entertainment inflected "undesirable gangster life" movie featuring Ray Liotta then watch Killing Them Softly.

Can't. This is the best Scorsese movie. King of comedy is a close second

No, there was no crossover. Source: myself, I was there.

If it's so great then where are the memes?

EGGPLANT

>good movies need memes

I think you've been here too long lad

I had both movies in my favorites at around age 15 and that is evidence enough to me that they both cater to a similar sensibility.

How does this compare?

Gonna watch it this weekend

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>You will never be food and beverage manager in a Vegas casino
>You will never have muffins with a standardised amount of blueberries

How many sittings is recommended for this kino? I've watched 2 chunks already and I still have anough 100 minutes to go.

Can't compare. It's easier to compare it to the godfather though.

Agreed

>Brick
Fedorable.

Watch your mouth before I shut it like I did my door to your mothers face

Sorry kid, but when a director works on several episodes of the most Sup Forumseddit autismal show on television, makes the single worst science fiction movie of the decade, and is now signed on with a Disney Starshit then you don't have much of a leg to stand on in terms of them being a non-hack.

That has nothing to do with brick and you know it. I actually only saw it this year

Emily blunt cant act for shit but ive seen worse scifi like edge of tomorrow

I saw Brick when it was first released and I've despised Rian Johnson since that point. Probably since you were still pissing the bed. I say with all sincerity that if I ever crossed paths him with IRL I'd do everything in my power to kill him.

kek im old i just never saw it until this year

As a quasi mafia-buff I like Goodfellas because it is closest to the true story. Only names and some events are changed. Casino is a more entertaining movie but is only 15% close to true events

confirmed for little girls

You don't get it. This is the point of this film. It portrays objectively horrible people doing horrible things and being even more horrible for liking it, but YOU think this looks entertaining.

All Scorsese films are the same

you like seeing 3 hours of sharon stone angry wife annoying de niro over goodfellas

how much of a fgt would you say you are

It's better than any Scorsese film, and I'm a huge fan of the guy. OUATIA is perfect, the greatest and most artistically achieved mafia film ever made, even more so than the Godfather films. Also, Elizabeth McGovern is my cheekfu.

Best scene in Casino

>I despise her entire character and what it represents
I think that's the point. Be mad at DeNiro for thinking he could change her.

This.

Casino fell short because Sam Rothstein did not have a downfall because of his own doing like Henry Hill did.

Henry just got reckless on coke.

Sam lost control because of Nicky.

Billy bates gets his revenge in casino which makes it superior

Fun fact: That's supposed to be Harry Reid

>Sam lost control because of Nicky.
He fucked himself over just as bad. He's the one that brought down the heat on himself with the gaming commission by firing that one guy's brother in law, or cousin, or whoever he was.

Then when he was told to lay low until it all blows over, he goes out of his way to be a pain in the ass and draw down even more problems onto him. He's definitely hoisted by his own petard.

I've been saying this for years!

oh shit i remember there were some nice tits in this movie, used to have it on VHS

pesci is a shit actor

>When the end goal is "entertainment" then it doesn't matter how good it is. It's always going to be pandering anti-art at the end of the day.

this is the dumbest thing i've ever read. it's hilarious watching you squirm while desperately trying to be taken seriously when you are, in fact, an idiot. i bet you have a twitter and your bio says "i'm an intellectual, film aficionado".

>I never comped you? I don't comp you at least 2 or 3 times a month? At the Tangiers?

I hate Casino. The whole movie is narration and Sinatra. Almost no quiet moments. Its less penetrating than goodfellahs and thus almost objectively better from a film making stand point

am I losing my mind or was there a post that said Joe pesci got whacked in goodfellas for trying to rape karen

In the true story, Tommy got whacked for a lot of things. Making a pass at Hill's wife when he was in jail was one of many.
But mainly, he got killed cause Batts. Like in the movie.

Everyone who 'hates' Sharon Stone's performance is probably grade A tier retard. She played her role far better than anyone else in the film.

And it was just Scorsese retreading his own film, which makes it garbage.

He brought about his own downfall by sperging out about doing his job the way he thought it should be done. The blueberry muffin scene was representative of this. He was a micromanager autist, not a guy who could handle people. He was unable to manage his busines dealings like a model train set where everyone does exactly what he says, so he got into trouble.

James Woods is the underrated MVP though. Him and Rickles.

This. He was promoted above his ability. I don't remember the law's name, which states that promoting someone who's the best ever at his job doesn't necessarily mean he'll be good at his new job.

brick was crap

At the same time, his micromanager side helped them catch cheats and shitty dealers. So it did help the house side. They should've just made him head of their casino security unit or the sports book or something.

Look at the other guys in the mob though. You think one of those flat sloppy wops is going to be able to do half the job he could?

The implication also is that Ace knew he'd never be able to have a kid of his own without finding some kind of showgirl he could make an "arrangement" with.

He didn't have anything else but his money to pull pussy with: no charisma, no street toughness like Nicky, he was middle-aged already in the '70s, etc.

I don't know, he recognized and respected Ginger. It wasn't an accident he went after the biggest hustler he could find, anyone else just wouldn't do it for him.

His problem was thinking that a leopard would change its spots and she'd turn into some kind of perfect house wife. She even tells him what a bad idea it was when he proposed it.

James Woods was pretty great in Casino, but you know in what movie he was even better? Once Upon A Time In America

>Casino had better actors

With the exception of Bracco being switched out for Stone, the casts mirrored each other. Not to mention that Goodfellas had Pail Sorvino.

I like Casino better, but that's likely owed to me having worked as a blackjack and roulette dealer before I dropped out of life. Goodfellas objectively had the better cast, though.

Great movie but that's a shit poster (meaning the poster posted).

Probably watched it 20 times, but haven't seen it in 15 years. I never even realized Buscemi was in it. Is this spme Mandela effect horseshit? Artie Clay is going to be played by Steve next time I watch it?

Shit's gonna send me over the edge...

>YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SPEND THAT MONEY, YOU FUCKIN' HUMP?

He wouldn't be fucking the Jew's wife, would he?

You can't compare apples and oranges.

Casino is good but there's a plot hole I didn't understand. At the end of the movie, why didn't Remo and the others kill Ace when they killed everyone else?

Of course you can, they're both fruit.
apples>>>>>oranges

Because Ace still makes money for them and doesn't fuck it up as much.

He always made them money.

Did you even watch the movie? He explicitly states this at the end.

Ace literally fucked up half of the operation all on his own. Fucking Andy Stone was killed for not being Italian and he didn't even do anything yet the Jew got to live. I know this was based on a true story but I still have to wonder why they didn't kill Ace just to be on the safe side.

Thats not deep cover the greatest undercover cop story ever with sick snoop doggy dog soundtrack and david fucking goldblum as gangsta

I found Pesci's constant shenanigans with the police annoying, DeNiro's wife somehow being more slutty than the previous scene in which she was already impossibly slutty (boogie nights wife bad) and how it had 3 different versions of every Rolling Stone's song in existence. dunno where the praise comes from, Scorsese's mob films are always entertaining but I wouldn't call any of them "kino".

Goodfellas is the best motion picture of all time, that is all

that was the worst movie ever

That's like saying In the Wake of Poseidon is better than In the Court of the Crimson King.

this is literally the worst opinion in the world

Eeeh, not quite. I'd say it's more like comparing Thick As A Brick and A Passion Play.