I don't get it

I don't get it

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i remember when this album was actually held in some regard here. that lasted all of 2 weeks and kicked off the SJW era in my eyes. Fuck this release.

it's where they told everyone and their fans to fuck themselves, and it's as bad as it ought to be. never.again.

fucking cis male scum. check your fucking privilege.

God DAMMIT The Knife kicked off SJW bullshit and brought it into the mainstream via meme culture. FUCK. FUCK FUCK FUCK. God damn I sincerely hate this album right now. It was all a harmless joke back then, but it's now a reality. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

good album tho

right.

wtf i hate the knife now!

who will make the fash electro album that will kick off the 4th reich?

>"producing petroleum based plastic CDs is bad down with capitalism down wit the industry ja"

makes awful album, that their supporters paid €16.99 for. If that's what they wanted to do, then put on a seminar . putting out crap on purpose knowing their fans will buy it anyway.... fuck 'em.

that's why we should all embrace fascism unironically and purge degenerates and foreign elements for the health of the fatherland

can I have my €100 back in that case? O h I can't coz it bought you synthesiers and a lovely house ?

forget it. no way.

yeah

hold up


i got this shit senpai

Still an incredible album

you have to look like this to get it

Wait, people don't like this anymore?

I don't know about "incredible". It was good, but I haven't really had a reason to listen to it since the year it was released.

Plus, in the context of the current day I fucking hate what it's supporting and making a narrative for because it's essentially ruining the fabric of society. Excessive degeneracy and hyper narcissism under the guise of being "tolerant" and "inclusive".

It's an album waiting to be realized, just like the title of the ambient center-piece of the album

I'm subscribing the current SJW movement too much to this album but this really is what brought the entire movement to my eyes back in what, 2012 or 2013 when it was released?

I'd say it's been realized in the last couple of years.

No, i think calling this album incredible is adequate. its much more than just "good".

Shaking The Habitual is not "SJW'.
Do you think the concept of some people being born with privileges is an SJW concept? it's pretty fucking obvious some people are born privileged as fuck.

This album isn't just about "privilege" though. And yes, the entire SJW movement is based on the concept of privilege so you just pretty much checkmated yourself there bud.

First of all let me clarify something:

Fighting for social justice is a good thing. the main critique of many SJWs is that they are very often fighting for justice in the wrong places.

Now that this is clarified, let me continue:
Privilege is not just a concept, it's a reality. when you are born in europe, even if you are
physically disabled you have a better chance at life than someone who is born in yemen

ALSO, everyone has their flaws regardless of privilege. Everyone also has their strengths. I don't see why everyone is so fucking concerned with privilege in this day and age. You know how you obtain said privileges? Strive to work past your obstacles and maintain a legacy for your children and grand children. Stop fucking whining and asking for handouts and equality of outcome regardless of merit or performance. Mass Effect Andromeda is a good example of exactly why you don't build things off the concept of forcing diversity and inclusiveness without taking into account someone's ability or merit. They hired based on race and gender rather than what was proper for the job and look at the steaming pile of shit we got.

Tell this to someone who was born in Yemen, a country that currently suffers from famine, war, and outbreaks of deadly viruses

I'm not denying the fact that privilege exists. I'm saying it's absolutely retarded to be concerned about who has which privilege and basing political movements off of it. Fucking focus on making yourself better and stop trying to bring everyone else down to your level by screaming "Check your privilege!"

Be better. Strive for better. Stop looking for solutions from the outside and create a better existence for yourself. That's how life works. No one owes anyone a fucking thing.

I don't give a shit. This entire movement is around making me feel bad for being born in a certain country and a certain income class

Fuck anyone who tries to argue that we're undeserving of what we have

Yes, it would suck to be born in Yemen, sure. However, that is something that someone born in Yemen and their community is responsible for handling. There are plenty of people who have made lives for themselves inside and outside of Yemen.

I think you're arguing the fact that privilege exists, which I never denied. I'm just saying, Shaking the Habitual brought the entire SJW concept to the limelight. I didn't see terms like "privilege" and "cis-gendered" and "gender fluid" until people started seriously discussing this album and it's messages. It didn't really bother me back then because it was meme culture, but now it's a reality and it's absolutely revolting. Identity politics is a fucking scourge on this planet.

You are wrong.
If you do not try to reduce privilege, you will never get a society that gives you a real fair opportunity to succeed.

There isn't an infinite wealth in the world. when the wealth distribution is too unequal, there just isn't enough money to let enough people climb the economic ladder. all the money and economic growth keep flowing the rich.

I don't think there should be an even distribution of wealth, i'm just asking for a distribution of wealth that isn't as extreme as the one we have now

Like, here's my thing. Why should I care about your sexuality or gender? Isn't that for you and your partner to worry about? Why does it need to be shoved in my face at every opportunity? I don't like it any better when religious folk proselytize and tell me their religion is correct and I should feel bad for disagreeing (ie: go to hell). Anyway, rant end. Fuck this album and fuck SJWs.

It's not about making you feel bad. it's about making you appreciate what you got and understand the position other people are in.

checking your privilege doesn't mean feeling bad about it, it means showing deep appreciation towards what you got and not whining when things don't do 100% your way

>Shaking the Habitual brought the entire SJW concept to the limelight
lmao you're insane. The Knife is not even a tenth as relevant as you seem to think they are. Also this album flopped and people stopped talking about it a few weeks after its release. It wasn't responsible for anything. In fact it was inspired by a movement that was already happening.

This people still don't seem to get that social justice is a good thing.

It's better to be a social justice warrior than a social injustice warrior

The distribution of wealth was set by generation upon generation of families starting their own businesses and succeeding. The distribution of wealth in capitalistic society works in favor of those who have input into the economy, aka create or invent items/services to be bought or sold. In capitalism, you get back what you put in. If you're not putting anything in, it's no wonder you're obtaining zero wealth. Too many people want handouts these days because it's "unfair" for higher class people to be making more money! Disregard the fact they spent many many years working extremely long hours or studying very hard in school in order to obtain the wealth they have. But no, it's all a rigged system for white men to get rich, right?

>Disregard the fact they spent many many years working extremely long hours or studying very hard in school in order to obtain the wealth they have

This is just ridiculous. Like, go ahead and shit on communism/socialism all you want, defend capitalism even, but to say that in the capitalist economy the wealthy class is made up of people who worked hard to get where they are is fucking laughable. I don't think anyone actually believes this, deep down, even though I see this argument thrown around a lot.

The only ones doing the whining nowadays are leftist degenerates, so I don't follow your point.

So we need less people. Got it. That's why I vote Republican.

You know there are plenty of people that don't subscribe to the SJW mindset because of the Marxist values they tote around, yet totally agree that socially we could be more tolerant and accepting...

Sure, "social justice" is a good thing. A majority of people in this world aren't going to tolerate bigotry, but the irony is SJW culture has given rise to self-unaware, bigotted liberals who claim that equality is equal distribution of wealth and government provided housing and food.

user, you completely miss the point.

When only the rich get to enjoy the economic growth of your country, you are not being given a fair chance to succeed. they are actively rigging the system again you.

Your argument of "I deserve to have less chance to succeed in life because of what my ancestors did" is the same argument people use to blame white people living today for slavery and asking for amends

In summary:
Telling yourself that you deserve to be fucked up because of what your ancestors did is retarded

And this is your naivety showing. You honestly think someone looked to a white guy and said "Hey there old chap, you're white and male! Let's get you signed up for the 100 Million Dollar white male deal!"

To sit there and say that the people in this country that own businesses or make hefty sums of money do no work is what's laughable. Get a fucking grip on reality. Also, way to remove the trip in order not to tarnish your reputation.

>Le marxist boogyman

There are almost no lefty politicians in the west who believe in marxism. your argument is nothing but a retarded strawman.

There is such a thing as social democracy, user. and its not even close to the ideology of karl marx. you are just using karl marx as a strawman because you cannot attack the ideology of social democracy since it's actually correct

I never said I "deserve" to be fucked up. You know what I do? I go to my job. Every day. I give it %110. I work long hours. I work 6, maybe 7 days a week. I've been given a total of 5 dollars in a raise over the past three years and two promotions. I probably just received all of that for being a white male though, right? It couldn't possibly be my ability to retain knowledge, succeed against multiple challenges, or consistence in quality of work. No, the system is just rigged against meh! REBELREBELREBEL!

And there are people who never work hard and they are rich because of their daddy.

I'm not saying that this shouldn't exist it all, but it shouldn't exist to the extreme level it exists right now.

Did you know 8 people have the same amount of wealth as 50% of the world population? that's how bad wealth inequality is right now. does it seem right do you?

There is no such thing as "social democracy" in the US. We are a Democratic Republic.

Also, no self respecting politician is going to openly support communism or socialism because it would almost certainly ruin their career. What is the case though is that leftists activists are pushing for Marxist political ideals, and since we were talking about the SJW movement it was relevant. Way to move the goalposts.

All of your arguments this entire thread have been "I'm right for no real reason" and twisting my words to imply I'm simply into being duped.

If you call all leftists communists, then i call all right wingers nazis.

just following your logic here

Who are those 8 people? Can you tell me that? What are your sources?

And of course someone born to a wealthy father is going to have a better handle on money and a better opportunity in life. Yes, privilege exists. What do you propose is done in this situation? Should every child be taken by the government and raised in a quagmire of propaganda and low quality housing and food? That way EVERYONE has equal outcome of opportunity! No one gets ANYTHING unless Daddy Guv'nah gives it to them.

You don't seem to understand how little class mobility there is under capitalism. I don't care how much you think these people work, MOST of them didn't have to work hard to GET where they are. How can you disagree with this when you acknowledged that the distribution of wealth is the product of a long historical process? It's a fact. Most rich people were born in a position of financial privilege. Most poor people will die poor regardless of how much they work their asses off or how intelligent they are. In fact, there is so much waste of human potential under capitalism that it's not even funny.

>Sources
There you go:

theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50

And buddy, i did not ask for a complete wealth equality. i just ask for the inequality to be less extreme so people can actually fucking live

I don't call all leftists communists, and never did. I was merely stating that there is a large portion of activists on the left (Antifa and AnarchoCommunists) who are very supportive of communism. You can call all right wingers Nazis but they aren't the ones removing your right to free speech and literally burning banners that say "free speech" on college campuses and rioting when someone with a different opinion from them comes to speak. Ironically enough, the actions of leftists activists are far more fascist than they realize.

Let me ask you this: Are you for a one world government? Because that's the only way something like this could occur. Total governmental control.

But that's 100% true. Even the inherited wealth like the Waltons stems from a patriarch who started the business and made it what it is from scratch. I know you desperately want some evil capitalist boogeyman to rebel against, but it has been and still remains the best economic system that mankind has devised to both spur individuals to pursue their own ends while simultaneously benefiting society as a whole. And frankly, if someone has built an empire, they deserve to leave it to their kids instead of having it stolen by the government in the form of an inheritance tax

>It's a Sup Forumstard gets schooled on basic economics and history episode
Fuck 'em up Crazyaga.

This fucker isn't schooling anyone you autistic cheerleader.

>only the rich get to enjoy the economic growth of your country

Except this is blatantly false. What source do you have for this bullshit claim?

>He thinks AnrchoCommunists are relevant
They are a tiny irrelevant percentage of the population and the only people who put a spotlight on them are right wingers who want a strawman for their arguments.

just like the current state of the KKK to be honest. just that the KKK actually used to be a terrorist organization in the past, now its just a bunch of morons with a retarded ideology

>liberals
>understanding economics and history

If they understood economics they wouldn't cry so much about muh 1% nor would they push for asinine "solutions" like a 15/hr minimum wage

I exaggerated.
*Almost* all of the economic growth is enjoyed only by the rich. there you go.

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/apr/19/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-99-percent-new-income-going-to/

" "99 percent of all new income today (is) going to the top 1 percent.""

So you changed your position. Your original argument was that the current wealthy class is made up of hard workers. Now you are basically saying that it's composed of people who inherinted the wealth and thus didn't have to work for it.

You can defend capitalism all you want and it won't change the fact that it's a system that does not favor the people who work the most.

People want to act like America is the worst country and is inherently evil because of it's Capitalist economy. Yet it seems the traditional values of the US have been something many countries have strived to achieve, some to no avail. The very country that has given the right to free speech and freedom of expression and allows people of any color, religion, gender, or sexuality protest in the streets peacefully unhindered, is the same country in which these very same people I was just describing wish to burn it to the ground.

If anyone needs to check their privilege it's the trans-homo-mixed-race people living in this country and screaming out against it. You're going to run into disagreements anywhere in the world, I promise you that. However, this is the one country (to this day) in which you CAN and DO have the protection to freedom of speech, even if it IS hate speech. The shit going on in Canada and Europe right now is absolutely insane. People being arrested for making statements that aren't even violent or aggressive, but merely critical of someone or a demographic? That's absolutely fucking preposterous and that's exactly what leftists are pushing for. So glad the Supreme Court unanimously ruled against hate speech.

The current form of capitalism is bad. some level of capitalism is a good thing, but you cannot have a system of pure capitalism where once someone gets rich he gets to fuck up the rest of the population to enrich himself even further

BERNIE SANDERS SAID IT SO IT MUST BE TRUE!

Look bud, I used to be a Bernie bro. Hardcore. And then I realized he's pushing a bullshit narrative and even he himself has no moral or ethical standing which is why he's about to be under FBI investigation along with his wife for embezzling from a University. Oh, he also pays his interns 12 dollars an hour after stating anything under 15 dollars an hour is an unlivable wage.

What a swindling fucktard.

Literally WHO is doing that though?

>inb4 TRUMP

Look at the article you fucking idiot, it directs you to the research which bernie cited

Today's concept of privlege has to be the most meaningless fucking thing on the planet.
Of couse some people are born into a life that's nicer than others. It doesn't take a genius to realize that.
But trying to make people acknowledge, or "check", their privlege, you're just making yourself and others in your situation out to be whiny cuts who can't accept that some people have it better than others. And don't get me fucking twisted either, because rich snobs are just as bad as whiny social justice warriors.
In the same way that feeling prideful for being born into a nice life is idiotic, do is feeling shame or guilt for being born into a nice life.
If you really feel some kind autistic disposition towards the rich because they have it nicer than you, then the only thing you can do is grow the fuck up. No matter how much you whine, they'll likely forever be richer than you.

and as a quick note: Correlating economic status by race only increases divide between races, which is the last thing we need.

go back to fucking animals, crazyaga

A more proper question would be who isn't doing it.

In the current system, once someone is getting rich, he has access to hedge-funds and other benefits that allow him to get even richer, which a system that inherently increases wealth inequality more and more, which means the middle class and lower classes will only get worse and worse

That's a different guy, and no he didn't change his position either. He was saying family legacies that were build from scratch are opportunities and achievements that their benefactors get to benefit from. Hence the reason I was saying earlier that entrepreneurs build a legacy to pass on to their children. It's pretty simple to understand, really. Those children have the opportunity to take over said business, and yes possibly go to a better college than a middle class child. However, why would it be any fairer to deny this person of that opportunity because their father was rich?

It isn't fairer, it's actually more fucked up than the current situation.

ignore spelling and grammar errors. I'm a filthy phoneposter

I don't get any victimhood scholarships.

you got shit like this on tv:
youtube.com/watch?v=6m53lNTdyPg
youtube.com/watch?v=KAedktI1nyc

rainbow ads on every corner. privilege checking seminars.

and still you tell me i'm a privileged evil straight white man and I should feel guilty and place the victim on a pedestal. lets call it what it is. this is cultural marxism

I hate Bernie Sanders and I don't agree with a $15 national minimum wage, but you have to be pretty dull to think the current distribution of wealth is remotely efficient or sustainable. Also, you have to be functionally retarded to not understand that privilege exists.

I'm not saying you are a privileged evil straight white man, you are just a privileged straight white man who lives in a first world country.

Why are you adding the "evil" part? i will tell you why you are adding it. you can't address the actual argument that is being made so you are using strawmen.

Honestly i feel exhausted talking with you. you have zero intellectual integrity, you are using strawmen arguments in every single post you are making

They had one good song then the whole SJWs trans fat people thing happened.

So you think a system of incredibly unequal opportunities is more ideal than a system where such absurd inequalities don't exist? Do you not think there are many dirt poor individuals right now who have a great deal of potential in them, who would contribute to humanity and the betterment of society in a lot of ways, but can't do anything about it because of their economic position? Your concept of what's fair is very different from mine.

There's an album of the year hiding somewhere in Shaking the habitual

you think victimhood entitles you to everything don't you?

I'm not going to sit here and say there aren't loop holes and gimmicks that can be played in the system of our economy. That exists in all aspects of life though. Some are better at playing the "game" than others. You can hate the game all you want as a spectator but until you actually make a move and try to be part of it or have some sort of input, perhaps you don't deserve anything back from this society or economy.

People that feel they deserve to have their student debt paid off or receive welfare because they can't find themselves a job or simply don't want to need to check their privilege more than anyone. I've met and heard from people who literally have been on disability for 12 years for the lamest excuses. The problem with our society these days is a lack of integrity, morality, and ethics. That's really what it boils down to.

So yes, there are rich people who are going to play the system. Yes there are rich people who cheat the system in order to make monumental gains. Could the system be changed slightly for the betterment of our country? Possibly. Do I think there's a massive inequity of wealth in this country? Not entirely. I'm just of the mindset that you should worry about you, do your thing. Set your goals. Have your dreams. And strive to achieve those things. Whining and larping as an activist will get you nowhere. Expend that energy actually making changes in your community and enacting some sort of actual justice rather than screaming "racist" and "homophobe" at people. Fucking do something charitable. Start a community in which wealth of your neighborhood can be shared in a way you want. That's the beauty of this country, everything I have stated can be done within this country. Nothing is holding you back besides your own preconceived notions based on "privilege". Leave that shit at the door and get on with your life, seriously.

I never once stated that privilege doesn't exist.

Oh man you are so right. poor people and people who live in third world countries are just "playing victims" to get whatever they want. poor people are soooo greedy! gosh! they think they are entitled to everything XD

I'm just showing you how retarded is the argument you are making

Okay, but how much is that 1% left over for everyone else? Are you trying to argue that 99% of the population outside of the 1% does not have access to a wealth of services and consumption goods? The average houshold has a place to live, generally at least one vehicle, HDTV, high speed internet, the latest smartphones, etc. What more do people need to enjoy the "wealth" being generated?

Not to mention that the 1% generally has their place in society because they own equities and other productive assets that generate capital on a continuous basis. With the advent of the internet and access to widespread information, there is NO REASON for your average person to not also own productive assets, aside from the fact that people are uneducated and stupid with money and choose to buy depreciating trinkets instead.

How many of the rich people today are actually "better at the game", and how many of them were just born to rich families and got an unfair starting point?

You think people like Paris Hilton would be rich without daddy

that is blasphemy in this world of ours. The victim is always right those queers shrieking in their shrill, awful marginalised voices of theirs they are always right. you were born sinful. your every achievement is unjust a spit in the face of the POCs and WOCs, those poor pathetic victimised creatures, yet so noble and wise

And your concept of fair is some sort of Robin Hood rhetoric in which people that have actually made wealth for themselves are required to pass it on to others for the sake of "equality". That isn't "fair" in the slightest sense of the word, nor is paying welfare to people who really don't need to be on it in the first place (I'm looking at you illegal immigrants).

this is the future cultural marxists want for your children. we can't let this happen comrade.

No but why the fuck does that matter? Why the hell are you so concerned with being "rich" anyway?

And about people calling other people "Racists" and "Homophobes" -

I think it's good to call out racism when something is actually racist. the problem with current SJWs and that they often call something racist when it isn't, which is counter-productive.

Racism is a terrible thing, but it should be called out only when someone is ACTUALLY being racist

There is a finite amount resources in the world.
When the rich are getting richer, someone else is getting poorer.

That's the problem though, the word has become normalized just like "Nazi" because leftists are pinning anything that goes against their ideals as "racist, homophobic, xenophobic, transphobic, nazi".

They're literally removing weight from the word by ascribing it to someone every time they don't completely align with their views. I was told I was putting on a show the other night for asking a black man with a guitar if I could hear him play a song. I'm going to suppose it was merely because I'm white. What in the actual fuck? I can't even interact with someone of another race now without some political stigma being attached to it and it's utterly fucking retarded and is literally all the fault of the SJW movement. Thanks leftists!

What the fuck? I hate Shaking the Habitual now!

>implying wealth is a zero sum game

Thanks for admitting you know nothing about our monetary system and how money is created

They're just scrooge mcducks sitting on top of gigantic pools of gold coins!

holy shit rapture when

Very fucking soon my friend. The TRUMPets will sound and a 7 headed beast will arise from the oceans. World War III is coming friend.

a man can dream

I dub this day as the day Crazyaga got wrecked. Again. Disappear again faggot.

Reminder: people unironically hate The Knife for "appropriating SJWs," per claim

holy fuck what a terrible thread

Then people like Paris will inevitably and eventually blow through their wealth, and her descendants will be back at square one.

holy fuck what a GREAT thread

>some people being born with privileges is an SJW concept

it's a stupid and counterproductive concept. You can't create a better society by guilting people and telling it they actually have it good when they are actually having it worse everyday. We have to present a positive vision of the future, a world made whole. Misery is one of the few unlimited resources, you shouldn't try and hoard it or turn it into a dick measuring contest. The sons of the downwardly mobile petty bourgeoisie (ie. Sup Forums's base, NSDAP'a base) aren't going to take it nicely. Instead try talking about common interests. The fact that we are all powerless, alienated and lacking any real control over our lives. 'straight white males' from a shitty suburb are far from being any kind of elite, the real elite, the haute bourgeoisie is much more restricted.

Hard to watch your point of view get demolished?

This was kind of my point. Focusing intensely on privilege isn't productive. At all. Yes, everyone has their own set of "privileges" but theres not any need to make it some deeply intellectual concept in which everyone's status and merit is based on. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are well aware of the things that go well for them in their lives, or the things that go poorly for them. There is a positive and negative to every situation regardless of who you are or where you live. That's a simple matter of fact and is extremely relative and subjective.