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>/prod/ Wiki - Guides and Tutorials
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>The Art of Mixing
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How can I record noise music from mixing board to PC without overloading my computer? I don't want to break anything.

Side note, I've been doing no-input, but I'm looking for some interesting distortion and a pink noise generator, any recommendations or good sites to discuss noise/FX pedals?

just use an interface

Are those kaossilator things actually good? Looks pretty meme-tier to me.

I have a torrented copy of FL studio, I meant I don't want to blow my sound card

Well what sorta gear do you have? You can simply let everything clip in a mixer and dial the master volume down.

I have a Mackie Mix 12FX, so far I've been doing that. Just didn't know if that was sustainable, and with additional gear, I wasn't sure if it would be too much. Thanks though, I can keep this up for a while then.

hey, my first time posting on this general.
looking to start producing my own beats, im planning on actually creating a instrumental EP of some sort.

thoughts on this? preferably in the mixing
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Ideally you want to overdrive the inputs of the mixer, and keep the output at a normal level.

Yeah that's what I've been doing
My master stays super low, no-input goes really loud

composed, performed, produced, mixed and mastered by me.

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Feedback is welcome.

Side note, while it goes really loud, it's still fun to spike it and throw something that loud into the loop.

Hate the gunshots, and the classical samples feel pretty forced
I would also recommend lowering your voice if you can, it feels a bit like you're pushing a normal yell into a scream and it doesn't quite work for me
The mastering and production are good though

thats crazy man, congrats

Shockingly competent. Maybe layer some more guitars to give off a heavier sound if you want.

The vocal samples are really nicely cut up and sound great, but the clap, cymbals, and shakers are super glassy. I don't know if you want to err more standard trap, but my tastes lean on the vapor side, and I think those vocals could work really nicely if you stretched and fuzzed the aforementioned percussion.

the lead/solo guitar on tracks 1 and 2 doesn't sit very well in the mix.
turn it down a little (prob like 3 db). it might need a hint of reverb/delay as well if volume alone doesn't make it gel.

so i did some bass whatever quick with DAW, it´s been a while since ive done stuff and i dont wanna pretend to be some sorta special snowflake but feedback would be neat

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id wanna have fun creating this time instead of feeling like its a work or a bore

that´s one way to say you dont have friendslol

start by putting this on on your kicks at the very least.

also, mono your mix and check that you're not phasing out with that stereo'd kick.

the rest of it i'll leave to someone else.

The notes around 0:48 feel out of place. The drums fade in nicely, and it sounds good once they do, but it doesn't really fit with the beginning. I think maybe if you added some really sparse or quiet percussion at the beginning to set it up it could work, but the beginning sounds too droning for the rest of it, I think the way it fades out works better because you aren't throwing anything new in that hasn't been established as a possibility.
Overall I like it, user.

You don't like the sample in the front with the war stuff? I hear you about the voice, but that is the style. I should have clarified that it is not me singing. It is my friend from another band.

Thanks man!

Thanks dude. I usually would layer multiple guitar rhythms, but I was going for a bit more raw feeling for this band.

Hmm. I was having a hard time with this. The track is doubled, and panned 50% l/r. I think what I may do is automate a reduction in rhythms or perhaps sidechain some compression on the rhythms to help the guitars.

Haha but I do have friends!

Which VST is the best for cheating musical theory? Like detects you the scale of a MIDI, identifies all resonating chords and so on?

>I think what I may do is automate a reduction in rhythms or perhaps sidechain some compression on the rhythms to help the guitars.
you might be overthinking it desu. just turn it down a little bit. walk away from it for a day and come back and hear it.

good advice. always sage.

the leads are sent to a common reverb and delay, so that is already handled.

as a lead guitarist it is very difficult to turn down leads haha.

I dunno, maybe the samples just aren't for me. I like that shit in power electronics, so maybe something that's less gunshots and more yelling?
Overall it was good, definitely think you've got some good shit going

thanks man.

i'm working with another guy who is doing vocals and lyrics. the sample ideas are his input. he sends me youboob vids and i chop them up and imagineer something useful. overall, they fit the subject matter of the song.

i'm more on the fence about the trendy 808 hits, but the kids these days like that sort of thing.

Mix wise, pretty good, but its very repetitive arrangement wise.

Good shit dude.

Seems like the entire thing is run through a phaser.

I don't think this exists, learn theory.

thanks man.


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thanks! how could I do that?

thanks! it's really just an idea, im looking to getting more creative with the samples

I'm not that experienced with this sort of thing, it isn't really my area, but you should be able to fuzz them with a simple EQ adjustment and stretch them by holding the main track tempo and slowing the BPM

your sub bass has a fundamental of 30hz and no(? is it just a sine) harmonics. that's a little bit too low, m8. the vast majority of systems won't be able to reproduce is properly.

I see, I can do these kinds of stretchings, ill try to work on this
I guess the sub bass you're hearing is from the actual sample, i didn't add any cause i could not figurate a good melody to go with the rest of the track. thoughts?

since we are talkin plugins you know if nicky romero or the infected mushroom app is worth gettin, probably gonna be doin vaporwave next so dont really need that shit yet but i can download your app and check out what its good for. Thanks for the rec

could as well just build a long intro to the next beat usin synths so that when theres that stale section in the end i can already start introducin next beats synthline, it should be easy to mix

anyway i liked the idea you had over mild percussions, that could really diverse the overall loops and make it more interesting
i´d like to check out your stuff too if you got it ITT

sounds like a subbass synth to me, m8. going from a B0 to F1.
kicks in at 10 seconds.

top tier stuff
would listen/10

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I don't like some aspects of the mix. the intro needs better mid/side balance, piano/strings/choir is crowded in the middle. Vocals sound great, but maybe too loud in the mix? or Guitars need to be wider/louder.

>clyp.it/f03tf2hk
same vocal/guitar comment
sample sounds kinda loud

>clyp.it/qdqpmxqq
same vocal/guitar comment

I'm , I'm not that into beat prod yet
Made some lo-fi memes a while ago, I could probably polish one up
I'm actually the no-input noise guy here , so that's what I've been doing lately

But yeah, if you build it up to the more complex shit it could be a really strong part of a song, I like where you're going with it

>since we are talkin plugins you know if nicky romero or the infected mushroom app is worth gettin, probably gonna be doin vaporwave next so dont really need that shit yet but i can download your app and check out what its good for. Thanks for the rec


are you sure you quoted the right post?
if so, i wasn't referencing the EQ specifically, more that you need to roll back the bass on the sides of your mix.

I just looked in the project, thats a subkick, sorry m8
ill try to mix it in a higher frequency

Thanks man, excellent feedback.

I think for the final mixes the vocals will come down a bit, rhythms up a bit, solos will be reduced and rhythms ducked slightly during solos.

I agree with the comment about the crowding of the piano/strings part. There has always been something there I haven't liked. Will have to rengineer it.

you don't necessarily have to change it, but just be aware that 30hz fundamental is extremely low. stuff all the way down there can work as a weight layer, but usually there's something on top.

those are kaoss pads, they're the effects ones. kaossilators are the synth ones.

i like my kaoss pads, i think they're fun and the effects are decent sounding, don't know what about that would be "meme-tier"

how do I change the frequencies of a certain sound? Is it possible?

>I don't think this exists, learn theory.
I have a melody and am in the moment right now, I dont have time to analyze
I know there is Mozaic Beats AutoTheory, but no cracked version unfortunately available

how does it work? you seem to know the basics of theory

What do you mean, like an EQ?

just use your ear dude. you won't be able to "cheat" theory. You should just program individual notes to get the hang of it.

that's the cool thing about using a daw. you can throw shit at the wall, see what sticks. if you don't like something it's easy to change.

youtube.com/watch?v=nRqNjtqccPA

how do people perform entire live sets on modulars? is every song/sound already patched up and just waiting for their turn with the sequencer?

well, I guess.. lol I don't know man

pitch up/down to keep harmonic relationships the same.

frequency shifters will change the hamonic relationship (i believe) leading to dissonance.

if you want to add harmonic content, but have the sound in audio form (as opposed to it being synthesized) easiest way is just to layer on top of it. if layer over a low end sound (a) with another (sound b) grab a high pass and roll off low end of sound b, roughly where sound a's fundamental lies. frequency cross over isn't going to kill you, but in the low end you have to be careful or you'll end up muddying the sound, or at worst, phase cancelling completely.
also bear in mind that eq'ing changes the phase of the sound which, very rarely causes issues. most good vst eqs will have have a linear phase option at the expense of introducing some latency.

if you have access to the individual sounds eq would work.

for example, kick drum - say you slightly rolled off frequency at 50 hz, and increased at 80-100 for that impact.

if you try to eq the entire kit, it would affect all of the pieces.

you could also try changing your sample.

I see, thanks man. Never tested in a "real" sound system to see how it would sound

i'm a beginner and interested in learning production through some online tutorials. i downloaded ableton and it says saving and exporting are deactivated because my copy is unauthorized. is there a way to get around this or did i download the wrong copy? sorry am total noob pls help

Ableton Live Suite v9.7.2 Incl Patched and Keygen-R2R

This is critical. Always test on multiple systems to get an idea of how your music interacts.

I suggest investing in a decent set of monitors with a sub so you can check your bass.

Theory about eq will go along way to help you.

either download a cracked version, or if that leaves a bad taste in your mouth download reaper and free vst.

w-where do i get the cracked version

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>Ableton Live Suite v9.7.2 Incl Patched and Keygen-R2R

for torrent.

thanks guys sorry i'm retarded

>I don't think this exists, learn theory.
>????

ableton has a scale midi tool
reaper has... idk i think it cuts everything out of the scale off the piano roll

i thought that was standard in like every daw lol

just learn in though you lazy shit it's not that hard

You didn't activate it.

Why does this have so many replies lol

>composed, performed, produced, mixed and mastered by me.

you say that like it's not the norm at the amateur level lol

i only really noticed it on the 2nd clyp (didn't listen to the other two all the way through lol) but i think the panning/delays would be more interesting if they went a bit ahead of the beat

I know it's the norm to have fake sounding drums but the hats and crashes kind of give it away

Hey so I'm this post , just did a quick no-input improv session, had a lot of fun making it. It's probably pretty amateur, but if any of you are into noise, I'd appreciate a look, maybe some textures or moments you like? I know the frequencies go way high and cut out sometimes, and other times get real low and sound all farty, that's me being autistic and inexperienced.

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I dunno if you're interested in noise at all, but this is what I've been doing lately

i mean it's not like i can activate it if i got illegally right

Get a crack/keygen

is this safe

A bit too earrapingly loud but interesting textures.

You can crack it and it'll still update.

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>Why does this have so many replies lol

people like metal?

>you say that like it's not the norm at the amateur level lol

I was not seeking attention, after all everything about my post was anonymous. It was more about what level of production to expect.

>i only really noticed it on the 2nd clyp (didn't listen to the other two all the way through lol) but i think the panning/delays would be more interesting if they went a bit ahead of the beat

thanks for the feedback. will keep it in mind.

>I know it's the norm to have fake sounding drums but the hats and crashes kind of give it away

i wish i could play drums, but it's beyond my abilities.

care to post something that you have produced?

Ah, sorry, my volume is low, I'll turn the master down

i'll do something nice for you, wait 5 mins.

i'm sorry that wasn't meant to be an attack towards you man

it's good

on some death grips shit

Download Live from here:
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Make a note of the installation directory.

Download this cracked exe:
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Replace the exe in the installation directory with it.

Download this activator:
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and follow the instructions in the text file.


the cracking method for ableton changed slightly as of v9.7.0. previously you didn't need the 'cracked' exe

files uploaded personally.

it's all good bro. no need to apologize. you get used to explaining yourself on Sup Forums haha.

my advice towards anybody who is younger who endeavors to play metal or wants to be in bands is to be a fucking drummer that is proficient with technology haha. too many guitarists, singers, and bassists.

holy shit that's really nice of you 0_______________0

downloading now~~~

Anybody got experience with ipads for prod? Could get a good price for an ipad pro 9.7

can be a fun toy with things like lemur and touchosc, but it's a toy and doesn't even fully replace a real controller let alone a proper daw
pretty neat in some cases, though and can be fun to dick around with, I wouldn't get one for just that purpose though

hey thanks

w-what's the installation directory

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any feedback is nice, i feel like its missing something

C:\ProgramData\Ableton\

i kind of like it. not sure if this is what you were going for , but the disjointed nature of the loop could be distracting for some.

i think a solid "hit bass" would help create some cohesiveness.

>ProgramData
am i wrong for putting into program files for some reason?

Measure is trippy, love the experimental nature of it tho, probably needs a bass then youre good.

im trying to focus on the vocals part of it, but im always getting distracted by the beat, but i feel the beat needs an extra sound ya feel? whether it be a snap, crackle, or instrumental melody, i just cant seem to figure it out

doesn't matter where you choose to install it as long as you copy the crack and overwrite the original exe

maybe one more hi hat hit at the end of the loop to keep it moving. a little reverb on snare for some depth.

perhaps extrapolate some melody.

okie just checking :3

ill put in some 808 and see how it sounds, thx :)

Here's some maximalist shit I made in my bedroom with 8 bajillion synths.

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Thoughs? Feedback?

interesting. makes me check my phone.

the more subdued parts remind of bjork.

i tried that, but then if i did, it would become noticeably repetitive, ill try to expand the melody but the 4-5-6-4-3-1-2 pattern is hard to add to especially if its made to loop

brought up command prompt in the middle of installation and i'm sp00ked now are you hacking me

Not bad but mix needs work, very abrasive, centered and in your face in a bad way

i get it. it's art. it doesn't have to conform to any body elses liking, or have to be "correct" in some fashion.

i like it the way it is. just throwing out what my brain would do.

yes. i have ur mum's recipe's now.

Just add a low, subdued synth there.

no no, its not necessarily that I reject change, or that i don't wanna conform to peoples liking, its cause if i was to change the pattern, i would change everything else, basically starting over, perhaps if i stuck with the same pattern but instead transitioned it into another melody through scales?

like a synth that creates an ambient feel?