A lot of you seem to know only "A Serbian Film" when it comes to Serbian cinema...

A lot of you seem to know only "A Serbian Film" when it comes to Serbian cinema, but there are much more and some of them don't suck even. Here are my recommendations.

The Professional (Profesionalac)

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"Till recently an University professor, a bohemian writer, a member of Belgrade's intellectual circles and a passionate opponent of the Milosevic's regime, TEJA is today a manager of a big publishing house. One day a strange visitor comes uninvited to his office, carrying a big suitcase. That man is LUKA, a former agent of the Serbian Security Service, now a taxi driver. Suddenly a surprising confrontation of these two men begins, which is full of incredible twists."

My personal favorite, it provides insight into the political turbulence of Serbia in the 90s (and after the October Revolution in 2000.), and the brutality of the secret service under Milosevic's regime but mostly focuses on the effects that the politics had on the personal lives of the protagonists.

Pretty Village, Pretty Flame (Lepa Sela Lepo Gore, a more accurate translation would be "beautiful villages burn beautifully.")

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"At the Belgrade army hospital, casualties of Bosnian civil war are treated. In the hospital they remember their youth and the war. Two young boys, Halil, a Muslim, and Milan, a Serb, have grown up together near a deserted tunnel linking the Yugoslav cities of Belgrade and Zagreb. They never dare go inside, as they believe an ogre resides there. Twelve years later, during the Bosnian civil war, Milan, who is trapped in the tunnel with his troop, and Halil, find themselves on opposing sides, fatefully heading toward confrontation."

Really grim, but not without moments of black comedy. The shitstorm of the Bosnian War is summed up in this film, many will say that it's biased but it's not really about politics or who was the bigger victim.

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>not recommending Davitelj protiv davitelja (Strangler vs. Strangler)
wew tebra

really love how our older kino has a sort of unique feeling between comedy and tragedy. no matter how ridiculous or light-hearted a movie seems, there's always some deep underlying depression below.

also, Lepa Sela Lepo Gore is a depressive as FUCK movie, never could finish it completely, yet there's a lot of people here who see it as a hilarious comedy. this fucking country i swear to god

I still have a hard time figuring out whether I like that "sour-sweet" note of the old Yugoslavian films or not. When I was younger, my dad loved all of those old films and we'd watch them together. He'd always laugh and I'd just sit there confused at what he was laughing at. When I rewatched all of those films when I was older I understood that the humor in Yugoslavian films was often expressed through irony and cynicism, concepts I was far too young to understand back then. Also, the humor is often very "hermetic" in its nature and it's probably understandable only to people from the Balkans so I suppose that someone watching these films would only see the "serious" side of it.

What's the difference between Serbia and Yugoslavia?

Yugoslavia was kind of a "United States", a country of countries. Serbia was one of them and the capital of Yugoslavia was in Serbia, that is, Belgrade.

>>My personal favorite, it provides insight into the political turbulence of Serbia in the 90s (and after the October Revolution in 2000.), and the brutality of the secret service under Milosevic's regime
Which continued just fine after the 5th October under the new rulership and is working better than ever now.

The only difference being that Milosevic didn't sell all the industry, natural goods, mines, etc. to the foreign capital, and everyone after the 5th October did.

Oh and unlike his successors, he didn't censor the media.

>he didn't censor the media.

No, he outright murdered anyone who dared speak against him.

Lepa Sela Lepo Gore is even more depressive now when you think about it. When it was filmed, the wars were slowly coming to an end and you could almost feel that the film ends on a "never again" note, hoping that the people of this god-forsaken region would smarten up and get past the petty nationalism which was the instrument of their manipulation. Twenty years later, nothing's really changed and that bittersweet note on which the movie ended seems all but lost on the newer generations.

[citation needed]

Did you actually read the newspaper, political magazines, watch the TV etc. under Milosevic? You should look into it if you're too young to remember. Compare the numbers of journalists who had their jobs taken away from them and were forbidden to work in any kind of alternative media with the ones in more recent times too.

Ah okay. Thanks.

If you think anything in the 90s was about nationalism, you're a retard.

Oh and unlike his successors, he didn't censor the media.

ahahah sure man.
i suppose it is pretty hard to imagine there was a time worse than now.

A friends relative of mine worked on a radio station during the nineties. During the tenure of the Minister of Information (Serbia's current PM), police officers were stationed just outside the recording booth, listening to what he was saying and making sure he didn't say anything wrong.

I'm not getting into that discussion. I at least hope that we can agree that the whole decade was just plain fucked up for everyone.

>HURHUR HRUHRUHRUH UR RONGE UR WROENG URHUHRU
Any actual arguments or?

>During the tenure of the Minister of Information (Serbia's current PM)
Yes, how curious, isn't it.

>Any actual arguments or?

Any actual movie comments or recommendations? Or did you just come here to shitpost about how chill it was to live under Milosevic?

>inb4 thread becomes ustaše vs. četnici

No matter what board, it always ends like that in a balkan thread

in this thread i didn't see any obvious croats, just good old serbs vs. serbs as usual

just nuke us already

Sure.

Zivot Je Lep (imdb.com/title/tt0090374/) is an excellent movie about what basically amounts to crony capitalism inside the "socialist" Yugoslavia, with characters that you can find on pretty much any level of society in any country, represented in a sort of a microcosm.

You could transplant it directly into the 90s, or into the 00s, or into the present day, with everything being almost exactly the same, and this won't stop until all the whales have been slaughtered.

Unfortunately they removed it from Youtube where it was in its entirety, so I have no fucking idea where to get it now.

Don't worry, we croats will stab each other if needed too.

We truly are absolute degenerate countries

Remember when Serbia literally started World War One? Seriously, why didn't you all just apologize and concede what Austria-Hungarian empire wanted?

Balkanski Špijun ( The Balkan Spy ) and Maratonci trče počasni krug ( I have no idea how to translate that ) are my fav ex-yu comedies.

Haha yeah unlike all those lovely western people who don't ruin their own nations at all, but they're ruining ours too so they're superior XD

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Well the Balkans are known for their civility and incredibly stable governments. Not to mention their lack of ethnic cleansing

Haha yeah unlike everyone else lol remember when America didn't have any ethnic cleansing at all they didn't even forcibly sterilize blacks and indians until the 70s haha what a great nation XD

Can we get back to the topic now, retards?

That's okay though, we're Americans. We also didn't start the second deadliest war in human history.

Fun fact: we literally have a statue of Gavrilo Princip in the middle of our capital city. no idea how that got approved, but he is generally seen as a positive historical figure here.

That's actually pretty cool. I don't see why he wouldn't be a hero. He did help create a united Slavic state for a while.

you can argue his cause was just, but he did outright murder a man (and his wife).

thanks for this thread Serb-bro. Since working for Serbs at my last job I've been curious about the culture.

Yeah, definitely not cool on his part, and ironically the only proponent for peace in the Balkan region, but ww1 was a matter of when not if.

I'm generally fascinated by the entire region and its history. Would like to visit some day.

Do all the southern slavic states hate each other to the core or is that just overblown?

Why hasnt your shit hole of a country been annexed

fucking criminals is all i know from serbia

Depends on who you're asking. Plebs from Croatia hate plebs from Serbia while everyone else is far too busy trying to get the fuck away from their respective countries into somewhere more normal.

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Haha this just provide cheap labor or underpaid overqualified experts to your western masters and one day you too can have the big shiny* XD

*just remember to never speak the truth again or it'll all be taken away from you

I'd rather be underpaid abroad than literally not have a job here because some uneducated ruling party member was a more suitable candidate for a position than me.

Do you think you get "real" jobs in any other way abroad? The ones that aren't reserved for cheap expendable imported labor force I mean. Are you under the impression that you get them based on merit?

Btw, try saying "gee, those Muslim refugees sure have nice phones" on your wonderful minimum wage job in Germany and see what happens.

Every person on the planet has a phone.

So, here are my choices.

Stay in Serbia and get offered to sell the last shred of my integrity so that I could MAYBE, and only if I kissed the proper asses, one day get a shit-job in a state-owned company or stay in Serbia and live with my parents who are also relying on their parents' pension checks to survive.

Or, I could take my chances abroad, where the chances that I will get a decent job based on merit are higher than here (maybe a slight uptick from 0%).

Tough choice.

But enough off-topic.

I'll hook you up serbiabro. Come to the states and head west. To a state called Nebraska

Holy shit do you Serbs, Croatians and whatever else ever make movies not about "the war"? You can't come up with an interesting story that doesn't include Serbian genocide?

That's always the choice in occupied countries, collaborate or resist.

Is the economic situation in Serbia really that bad? Here in the U.S. the only struggling sectors right now are auto workers, steel mills, and oil drilling. Everything else including oil refining is doing well.

If you get the chance to move to the U.S.: I recommend the Chicago area. Huge Serb population here and lots of Orthodoz churches and Serb social clubs to network in

Since everything post-90s is financed by the EU and various "NGO" bodies and foundations, unfortunately the answer is no, every movie must tell the world how horrible the specific country making it is, and how shitty their people are. Oh and for added humiliation, they only finance collaboration projects now, so they won't finance a Serbian movie without Bosnia and Croatia doing something in it, etc.

>>If you get the chance to move to the U.S.:
How do you think this would work? He's not Mexican.

Like I said, you have two choices. Join the ruling party and humiliate yourself for life or struggle to survive. There is a third, more popular "choice" - GTFO; and many young people are choosing that one as evidenced by massive brain drain. I'm a college senior and basically everyone I know is already making plans and looking ways to escape.

How much money do you need to "survive" in Serbia? Be honest.

Rent, bills and food - literally nothing else - about 350 euros a month or about 400 USD, but that's just for me, a student. I can't really speak for the average family but it differs from city to city.

Also, bear in mind that the amount that I wrote is the reported average salary in Serbia, but that's according to the state-sponsored media. In reality, it's much lower.

It's about 3/4 that for a comfortable life, but thanks for not being so much of a spoiled brat that you barely even doubled it.

So, what's stopping you from having this much from an online/internet job that takes 2-3 hours per week, staying in the country, and trying to make it better?

Or is it more that you've been brainwashed into hating your own country so you're inventing reasons to get out?

Yes, it's a miracle how people are raising families on the average salary just fine, yet you as a student MUST ESCAPE AT ONCE OR ALL IS LOST.

Milosevic did nothing wrong

Enjoy being a non-nation loser

Can you recommend a documentary about the Bosnian War?

Im really interested in it but only have a entry-level knowledge

To survive you need between 200 and 400 euros per month, depending on your housing situation.
To live you need 500 or 700 or more euros per month.

Most people have the minimum wage of 200 euros or are unemployed.

The weight of chains.

And remember, everything made by western countries about the wars are propaganda movies.
Even from the big and "respectable" media.

How many deaths of starvation do you have per month again?

It's a huge mess of international interests colliding that's complex on so many levels that no documentary about it is anything but propaganda, or analyzing only the publicly available data.

Damn...

Any from the soldiers perspective then?

>So, what's stopping you from having this much from an online/internet job that takes 2-3 hours per week, staying in the country, and trying to make it better?

After living here as long as I have lived, I honestly don't see anything worth saving, or to be more precise, worth fighting for. My parents stayed when they had a chance to leave and hoped that things would get better. Hell, they even tried getting into politics, that's how optimistic they were but it's all for nought, after 20 years. I don't want to spend my youth fighting for something that I don't believe is ever going to transpire. I wanna live free from the burden of an unreliable future and I don't want my kids growing up having the same issues that my parents and I are having right now.

America imported and supported Muslims extremists that would later go on to fight for Al'Quaeda as their proxy army.

Did something similar in Macedonia too.

>I wanna live free from the burden of an unreliable future
So which country are you moving to? Hope it's outside of the EU and America. Or the Commonwealth. Better not be anything Asian or South American either. Oh and not Russia either.

Yes, AFAIK Albania/Kosovo too. Kosovo, as tiny as it is, has been split into spheres of influence of various EU countries and the US even.

It's hard to explain to people who haven't studied this extensively (for example US interest in Bosnia is to a large extent because of the US/Saudi relations, and Saudi Arabia has been building a lot of very dubious shit in Bosnia with the US blessing etc.)

I see how you'd think that I'm just spoiled and that I believe that there is no country worse than Serbia but all of my ranting here tonight doesn't do the reality any justice. I am privileged in comparison to the vast majority. I go to college and have the opportunity of a decent education, I don't have to worry that much about whether I'd have enough money for food and shelter, I have a smartphone, internet access, occasionally I can afford to buy new clothes. But I know what I'm talking about and you'd just have to spend a couple of years here to even get the just of what I'm saying.

People do not starve to death here.

Bread prices are 3 times lower than the real market price would be and everyone either has relatives in the villages or depend on charity and soup kitchens.

It is hard to explain.

srbe na vrbe desu senpaitachi

I know.

But obviously paying Ahmed in Germany for the privilege of eating his cum in your GMO bread is so much better.

How do non-muslim balkan people get along with balkan muslims?

Watched Blakanski špijun shitload of years ago, never understood the ending as a kid, was he crazy as the entire movie leads you to think, or was he actually right and the dude was some kind of secret agent?

He was batshit insane.

Just fine. Well, apart from the whole slaughter and all.

Ex-Yu Islam is a bit different from the retarded Islam that's sadly been imported into the EU as well as Bosnia since the war. In fact, the entire Turkish Islam that we were under during the Ottoman Empire was different (until the recent times when they ruined Turkey with the bullshit Islam and turned it into the shithole that it is now).

The original Kalergi plan that was followed as recently as the mid 00s (see the European Commission document from 200X here: ec.europa.eu/dgs/policy_advisers/archives/experts_groups/docs/rapport_complet_en.pdf - this might be of interest to Croats, Bosnians and Serbs ITT, since it has Predrag Matvejevic alongside such luminaries as Umberto Eco) relies on somehow converting the bullshit Islam into European Islam and mixing up all three religions in Europe (Orthodoxy, Catholicism, and Islam) so that they all live together... but that's of course either extremely naive or outright malicious.

Depends. Was Gloria Steinem really a CIA agent or was she just fucking them and taking their money?

I don't know any, but I was friends with some croatian guy who was in the war at like 15 years old. It really fucked him up.

>Ex-Yu Islam is a bit different from the retarded Islam
Can you elaborate on that? Isn't Islam bullshit on the whole?

Serbs are responsible for WW1 with their pan-slavist retardation, also the bolshevist jewish-lead partisand did unspeakable acts of violence to the axis troops securing the country during WW2

Their women are very hot though

Why do so many Serbs look like fucking Turks?

It is corrupt version of a corrupt version of islam.
Turks are viewed, well at least the western and urban ones, as bad muslims for drinking alcohol and eating non halal food.
Bosnian muslims are even worse muslims than Turks are.
Especially the ones from communist families and the ones that spend time with Croats and Serbs.

It is, but this is (or rather was) more of a cultural/secular Islam.

Since it wasn't native to the region but brought by the occupying forces, and those occupying forces didn't follow the bullshit Islam in the first place, as this was centuries before the invention of wahhabism, it was probably more like, I don't know, Japanese Christianity or something.

>mixing up all three religions in Europe (Orthodoxy, Catholicism, and Islam

What a coincidence, that's also exactly what Catherine Emmerich's WW3 end time prophecies foresaw would happen before the russians invade europe