THERE IS NO GOD

Or at the very least, if there is one, he is hands-of when it comes to us.

abc7chicago.com/news/boy-who-grew-hair-out-for-cancer-patients-now-has-cancer/1331530/

"A young California boy who grew his hair out for children with cancer has now been diagnosed with cancer himself.

Vinny Desautels, 7, grew his hair out for two years to donate it to children fighting cancer.

"I want to help people so they don't have to go to the doctor to fight cancer," Vinny said.

But now Vinny, who lives outside of Sacramento, has been diagnosed with cancer, KTXL reports.

"It is Stage 4 aggressive cancer," Jason Desautels, Vinny's father said. "What they found is that he has a significant growth on his hip and in the bone around the eye and behind the nose and on the cheek on the right side."

Vinny's father said his doctors were still trying to determine the exact type of cancer he has."

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>a bad thing happened so God doesn't exist

I think he has a sense of humor

Spoiler: We are God

This post gave me cancer, I dont know what that proves though

Kek is god.

There are three scenarios:

1.) God doesn't exist.
2.) God does exist but does not influence events, and therefore praying is pointless.
3.) God does exist and does influence events, but lets bad shit happen all the time, and is thus an asshole.

Pick.

For true good to exist, there must also be evil and suffering. God isn't good or bad, it just is.

Maybe God just isnt nice and thought the kid looked like a little faggot for growing his hair so long

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that's the rarest pepe I've ever seen. Mind if I save it?

What if god is just stupid? Like drunk at the controls.

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agreed we are gods.

4. God exists and as per his agreement with man, gives men the freedom to choose. If someone chooses a path against what his plan for them is, they will suffer. There are a myriad of paths within Gods plan for someone, there's the freedom of choice. God never promised us liberty, only the freedom to choose Him or the Devil.

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

>and is thus an asshole.
once again, humans think they know it all and assume God's and asshole because he doesnt let happy good things happen all the time.

i get a kick out of people assuming God's this or that.

Wouldn't that make him not omnipotent?

Man's unfailing capacity to believe what he prefers to be true rather than what the evidence shows to be likely and possible has always astounded me. We long for a caring Universe which will save us from our childish mistakes, and in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary we will pin all our hopes on the slimmest of doubts. God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist.

lmao this

I pick none of the above though. Only the Norse Gods of old exist. HAIL ODIN!

i really wish i could time travel and just eliminate the first god memer.

uhhh yep..I can say pretty definitively that a God that is omnipotent and chooses to influence human events, and also lets 200 people burn alive in a dance club, or 50 million starve under Mao......is a fucking asshole.

You're almost there

God either doesn't exist or He is unimaginably cruel

What about the possibility of God existing, but only setting the stage for mankind and letting them make all of their own choices and not interfering. An indifferent God that does not play puppeteer?

Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?

You are put on earth to have a human experience.
We never really die and its not really real. God doesn't interfere with our daily lives because it would ruin the experience. Think about it as being 5 and learning how to ride a bike and then having your parents hold you all the time so you never fall.

In this case the kid might have chosen before he was born to have an experience as a kid with cancer. Why would god micromanage his life? That would ruin the experience and in the end it would be pointless anyway because you never really die.

Man I fuckin loved that game

This is why no one likes atheists. Yes, there probably isn't but who gives a shit? A religion is about giving you an incentive to be a decent person and provide cohesion to communities and even people among different nations. Wether there really is a god is completely irrelevant.

The Universe is god and will let you know when you go awry of its' wishes. There is no faith needed only observation.

Actually I'm God and Trump is Jesus

You people are fucking dense. You're trying to apply human labels and conditions to an extra-dimensional being.

But fuck it, let's go with that.

Assume you're born to wealthy, moral, upstanding parents. You want for nothing and your parents raise you to be a well mannered, respectful, decent contributing member of society.

Yet in adulthood you misstep. You commit a crime. You kill someone. Despite being handed everything on a silver platter you FUCK IT ALL UP.

Do you blame the parents? Or do you blame the individual?

God gave us everything on a silver platter. Everything we want or need is right here on this planet - yet WE choose to rape, pillage, and plunder this planet and eachother...

...and that's God's fault?

The mind-fucks of that game haunt my early pubescent memories. Only now do I realize that Miriam was right all along.

>muh free freedom
Explain how exactly that kid is ''free'' now.
Free to die of cancer?

>4) God exists, but rather then treating us like predetermined puppets, allows us to make our own choices, and therefore consequences
>b-but omnipotence discredits freewill...
Multi-verse

Dance club... You really think that God agrees that you should deprave yourself in these places that often ends up in disordered sex (non marital sex = adultery = not God's will).
Communism = atheism.

You didn't choose the right example.
As for the kid, he will probably suffer, but that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. God never said that that he will relieve us from pain and suffering, even if we follow his path. Jesus said that he will give us eternal life if we act according to his will, that is a set of rule and no excesses.

Jesus suffered on the cross for many hours. You really think this world will be painless and sweet all along because Jesus?

>Welcome to "My first theological argument," with FAGGOT OP!!!

Let me sum this shit up for u senpai:
-kid does really nice, considerate thing
-god takes notice
-"Oh shit what is that kind soul doing on that shit planet full of hatred and cruelty and death, ABORT ABORT!"
-god gives the kid a slow death so he can say goodbye to those he's become attached to
-kid dies
-returns to creator
-everyone wins, except planet earth, because fuck planet earth this place is for fags

It's like you don't even existentialism

If there is no God what’s the point of an atheist?

An atheist’s very existence depends upon the very God the try to discredit. And the irony is, this god is all they talk about

Does anyone talk more about god than an atheist fundie who does not believe in god?

>Lest we not forget the sense of humor it takes to convince a bunch of primitive goat herders in the desert to cut off a portion of their penis with a dull knife to please a benevolent extradimensional being of astronomical heft.

>the boy giveth and the lord taketh away

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I know we had a thread about this but I'd like to personally pick John Stuart apart
>Obvious Jew
>Quick to anger
>Insecure
>Arrogant
>Flashy
He covers all the Jewish stereotypes.
What do you guys think?

I know you'll spam me with fedoras, but I really don't know why Sup Forums is so devoted to the idea of God existing when there is no scientific proof of it, and all the stuff about God that we "know" was drawn up and likely made up by humans.

I can understand the Christian family values, or praying and going to church because it leads to self-improvement, but I just don't understand why everyone here is so convinced that a magical man created us all and if you disagree, you're a fedora,

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>I know you'll spam me with fedoras
Spam them back.
90% of Christfags on the board are non-believers who pretend to be Christians, because they consider it a necessary element to their racial success.

>4.) God does exist and does influence events, and intentionally causes horrible shit to happen for reasons we can't comprehend

Atheist's life is basically to live the current life at it's fullest. Theist lives it for the next life.

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Some ancestor down his line was free to smoke tobacco, or his mom was free to catche hpv or eat processed food while pregnant. Either way you slice it, objectivist materialist Athiest or theist, people just don't "GET" cancer. Action followed by consequence. Sins of the father passed down to the son.

So god gave the kid cancer because he broke his agreement with him? Oh, wait. Now I get it. God was pissed that he tried to help those that he had given cancer as punishment for something!

That would be a agnostic not an atheist

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What??.....people DO just GET cancer. It's a genetic lottery, and this kid lost big time. It was random chance.

>fullest
Subjective definition. A completely bland life could be substituted and still reach said criteria.

Yeh sorry for the mistake, mixed those two again...
It still stands though. To live free of fear in this life than try to live in fear for the next life.

>no one likes atheists
>I have lots of friends
>I have a girlfriend
>I have Christian friends
>A religion is about giving you a reason to not be a horrible cunt
>If I did not have religion I would not have any idea how to live

So where did the little boy who donated his hair to cancer victims but ended up getting cancer himself go wrong? Who's to blame?

>genetic lottery
>genes just mutate by magic, and not by chemical, UV or what ever reason

The laws of physics don't fail for no reason. In a perfect vacuum, a replicating cell would never deviate from previous form. It could even be said the cell itself, by producing toxins from the process of life, infact damages itself, which causes mutation.

can't i be an agnostic athiest?

It is pointless to argue on this matter.

We can't just logically that God exists or it's conception to people that constantly apply human standards to God.
>he is an asshole
He is not human and you can't understand him. If you don't want to return his love, you are free. As much as you are free not to return your parent's love, not return your friends their calls...

In French we say: there is nobody blinder than the one who doesn't want to see.

You can deny your parents love you and find reasons for it. The fact that they love you is simply irrational, since you've been causing them trouble from the very beginning, yet they never stopped to love you.
That's the same for God on another scale.

>What they found is that he has a significant growth on his hip and in the bone around the eye and behind the nose and on the cheek on the right side


Yeah he's incredibly fucked

Nah shit Sherlock

>try to live as hedonistically as possible, even purse immorality, because your afraid of never tasting it again once dead

That's hardly living without fear. And doesn't even depend on a God to reject(see buddhism).

No

>You are free to choose
>As long as you choose what I want
>Otherwise I'll punish you

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Your analogy is bad, and it's a pathetic attempt at smearing Hillary's campaign.

Assume you and your companion were the only sentient creatures of your kind in existence, having no parents, and no self-consciousness, and the magician who cast the spell that put you there pretended not to notice that there was a creature roaming around convincing your companion to eat the most beautiful fruit in your front yard, so the magician curses you and your offspring for eternity.

>a house is punishing me cause I stay out in the rain

Adam and Eve were his pets, stupid naked thing he liked that ran around in his garden. One day they ate something they shouldn't have and the guy that now tells you to be forgiving kicked them out and condemned them and the entire human race to a life of suffering whose only escape is death, instead of saying "bad humans" and tell them to stop eating apples. At worst he could have used a shock collar. God's a proud prick and a hypocrite. Hail Satan.

God is real.
So is Hell.

Choose your fate.

It's a pretty simple choice.

Basic good and evil influencing mankind.

If god is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent, then why is his holy book full of dumb shit like dashing children against the stones and summoning bears out of the woods to maul some children who were mocking some old troglodyte for having no hair? Also, I'm pretty sure you can't eat prawns, crabs or lobster, or wear clothes of different materials, or shave your beard.

The whole bible reads as though it was written by a bunch of crazy shut-ins who don't like new things.

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>a house creates rain

Atheists maybe retarded but they're right about no God

>God makes weed
>Weed kills cancer
>Man outlaws weed
>Man gets cancer
>Man blames God
>Stoners inherit the Earth

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>Atheist knows it all but provides no proof for his claims

>Your analogy is bad, and it's a pathetic attempt at smearing Hillary's campaign.

wat

How hard can it just to be a good person without being immoral?

I bet god just wanted to see how high he could make himself. You know, after boredom set in.

And now god is just perma-fried. God probably browses Sup Forums and shitposts from Australia.

Is that a claim?

You mean a sense of tumor? RIGHT? Oh I am going to hell.

It's a reference from a joke from a few days ago where that was the tail end of a meme that was spammed to drive off paid Hillary Shills.

Ignore it.

It's hard to believe in a benevolent god when he condemns kids with 4 years to death by cancer

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I mean, you're really just arguing semantically. That's like saying if you get hit by a car, its your fault because you chose to leave your house that morning.

Even living by absolute virtue, or absolute safety you're still susceptible to random, uncontrollable events that can kill or maim you.

If you're going to make that argument, then free will doesn't matter since you can't see beyond the horizon of the impact it'll have on yourself or others. At that point it just comes back to a flaw with intelligent design. If someone builds a car that breaks down after 1000 miles, you don't blame the car, you blame the builder.

What about god exists bit is kind of bumbling and incompetent, but tries her hardest?

Nice analogy

Man cancer is weird. I eat healthy food and only drink water mostly but I have had a sedentary lifestyle for pretty much my whole life. I just sit on my ass all day and night yet some how I dont have cancer. I'm honestly surprised.

And then I hear about people who are active and eat right and everything else get cancer.

In this case rather then rain, it's just the absense of anything besides your own ego. A house in an abyss of nothingness, leftovers, where furniture and other tenants of the house ran out and dog piled. How exactly is a house suppose create something that's not there and just a junk pile that didn't want to stay.

You can't prove you're a Christian either.

We're on the most intellectually abandoned board on Sup Forums. Stop trying to hold users to the standards of formal debate.

4. Gods do exist and do SOMETIMES help influence events, but they mostly leave us to ourselves and go about their own business just like we do. Mankind and the gods are separate from one another, but sometimes we can come together and communicate if necessary, although this is few and far between. Also, the gods don't give a shit about you because you're just another face in seven billion humans. Unless you stand out in some way, you're as meaningless to them as Yahweh is to an Atheist.

Good and immoral are also subjective.

>most intellectually abandoned board on Sup Forums

Have you seen what goes on in Sup Forums?

>In this case rather then rain, it's just the absense of anything besides your own ego. A house in an abyss of nothingness
Stopped reading there.
Save the poetry for the Sup Forums musical threads.

That is because you don't know what cancer is

>the apple is literal

>"A young California boy who grew his hair out for children with cancer has now been diagnosed with cancer himself.

The irony of this is hilarious.

Wow a thread about the existence of god with no Christians spamming fedora memes

Then God is a woman, and we are all fucked.

>Create a world sustaining itself
>Create the means to protect oneself from the effects of the worlds sustainability
>Someone chooses with their free will to stay out in the rain
>Yells at me when they get wet and cold
>Someone finally goes inside and sits by a fire
>Tells all their friends about how I'm evil or don't exist because I allowed it to rain
>Watch them sip from a cup of water
>Get upset with them, want to show them that they're wrong for thinking of it like that
>Make the fire go out in one of my rare interventions to show them that there is a "consequence" (fire outage) for every "bad decision" verbally shitting on the person who allowed you to live
>They get exasperated and go back to bitching about how I either don't exist or I'm evil
>mfw

Yes I do, its abnormal cell growth basically. I read the Wikipedia article faggot.