Really like album

>really like album
>find out the band members are communist faggots

deleted album and changed rym rating. c ya!

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Except communism/socialism produces far better art/artists.

but no food

wrong

To be fair we haven't seen a truly industrialized nation take on a full communist/socialist system and on top of that those who have adopted policies of these systems (most of Western Europe+Scandinavia) have been tremendously successful.

Name a single great artist who made music with a passion for capitalism/mass-culture.

because its impossible

>Except sheltered Western/Asian countries produce far better art made by people cosplaying as communists/socialists.

Fixed. Communist and socialist countries are, by and large, utterly barren when it comes to art and culture.
I wonder what that is?

Rush

Some of the policies of socialism are beneficial but full blown communism is a ridiculous notion

>Communist and socialist countries are, by and large, utterly barren when it comes to art and culture.
>the Soviet Union didn't produce some of the most influential and revolutionary cinema of all time
>I wonder what that is?
Where's the connection between living under a shitty system and being unable to produce good art?

Fucking Rush is your example of great art
Jesus Christ

Fact: the only great art in capitalism is art that is inherently made from a communist/socialist perspective.

Or art that has fuckall to do with politics

Name some.

>defining the importance of art based on the artist's economical viewpoint

I thought leftists were supposed to be the smart ones

What, apolitical art? You must be joking

Kek, you kind of confirmed his statement.

...

Art made from a communist/socialist perspective has the impetus of social change and rebelling against norms, which inherently results in more interesting art.
Wow that's an empty list!

Brian Eno is apolitical are you fucking kidding me
The guy involved with constant counterculture artists and movements is apolitical
Ambient music, inherently a rebellion against corporate pop music, is apolitical

WOW

>Wow that's an empty list!
More like a list so large that the idea of writing it down is ridiculous
How do you seriously not believe good apolitical art exists? Is art just an indoctrination tool to you?

Meant to quote

>he thinks that Scandinavian countries are successful not in spite of but because of social democratic policies
>he doesn't realize that the reason Scandinavian countries are so rich is because they are one of the most business-friendly countries on the European continent

Oh so you're one of those people who analyze any cultural production through a Marxist lens
Yeah this art breaks convention therefore it's political

>the Soviet Union didn't produce some of the most influential and revolutionary cinema of all time

Made by people who were directly supplied and enabled by the ruling regime. Made in quantities relatively small compared to the amounts of great cinema which came out of capitalist societies at the same time. I wonder how much more great art was nipped in the bud by the same regime?

>Where's the connection between living under a shitty system and being unable to produce good art?

Lack of resources and opportunities for that art to actually materialize, lack of liberty for it to materialize in a way that's genuine to its mastermind's vision without getting tampered with or warped in one way or the other, lack of proper channels for it to be presented to the world.

>which inherently results in more interesting art.

Quite a leap of logic you made there.

under rated post kek

Karlheinz Stockhausen

Harold Budd =! Brian Eno

>Art made from a communist/socialist perspective has the impetus of social change and rebelling against norms

Maybe if you're a moron from America or Western Europe lmao.
There's a reason why the countries which actually suffered through communist or socialist regimes have the most burning hatred for the concepts of communism and socialism.

this says a lot more about how fucking stupid you are than anything. I honestly don't know how someone could listen to lrd and not expect them to be leftists, especially if you give any consideration to cultural context

I have to say, though, it is quite funny seeing all the alt-right teenagers get upset any time some shitty artist turns out to be left wing. it makes me smile to know they have terrible taste in music, and are so underage it actually surprises them when any given popular music act turns out to be left-leaning

>Art made from a communist/socialist perspective has the impetus of social change and rebelling against norms

Maybe if you're a moron from America or Western Europe lmao.
There's a reason why the countries which actually suffered through communist or socialist regimes have the most burning hatred for the concepts of communism and socialism.

since when was Stockhausen capitalist
>see one person on the project based in countercorporateculture isn't totally socialist

I know you didn't say it yourself ('muh horseshoe') but i'd argue Far-Right states have even less significant art or culture. It all comes down to "D-degenerate! Worship paintings made by people 500 years ago instead, classical only, no fun allowed" absolutely no space for progression in the arts

The fact that many bands can eat and live confortable just be, literally, playing their music already means that capitalism is the best system ever.
But, yeah, that could just be part of their "act", like those Death Metal dudes that are "satanic" or talk about "raping virgins" or some kind of extremism shit like supporting nazims or, in this case, "comunist xD". It just mean that they simple and innofensive, rebeld, kids, that wants attention.

It's always funny when poor white guys who work at Taco Bell defend capitalism

Corporations fuck you over and ruin art for mass consumption. End of story.

>great cinema which came out of capitalist societies at the time

Hollywood isn't 'great cinema', mate

>what is hitler

>the Soviet Union didn't produce some of the most influential and revolutionary cinema of all time

You don't know anything about film

>muh horseshoe
I mean it's easy to see why an authoritarian regime on any side of the spectrum would inhibit creative expression.

What does race have anything to do with this you fucking retard

damn. I guess this animeposter refuted all my textual interpretations of Debord...


you know what's the worst part of capitalist society? It encourages fake individuality, which resulted in your brainlet post. 85% of the population have no idea what they're talking about. It's ok to be an opinionated retard in America because everyone's opinion counts

>really like album
>find out the band members are hard capitalist endorsers
>continue enjoying the album even though I disagree with their political ideology

I live in an ex-communist country. Everyone(aside from rich kids going to art school) here fucking loathes communism.

I'm not talking about Hollywood.

And you obviously don't know anything about how greentext and quotes work.

>unironically supporting feudalism

>I live in an ex communist country

So you live in a capitalist state that was formerly a state-capitalist state and you think you have the authority on all branches of Marxism

Can confirm. Denmark, where I live, has so many business facing tax breaks and benefits its not even funny. A legit way to get out of paying as much tax is starting a company that does nothing.

>state-capitalist
this fucking guy

Anyone who does this deserves to be shot. If the music is good, the music is good. It doesn't fucking matter what an artist or band thinks.

>otisposter

Im just responding to the original OP, as I remark with the post number, I didnt respond to your what ever arguments about Debora or something band.
>fake individuality
wow, i totally dont know what are you trying to express here but i guess you are the only capable of a greatful approach with your acertion into the ideoly in music.

>r-real communism was never achieved!

No, I'm sure the Sup Forums/Tumblr kids who post Stirner and Marx memes without ever having read either Stirner or Marx(or maybe having read through a couple of their works once)know more about Marxism and communism than the countless people I know who had actual experience with living under the regime.

comunims is good lol
take that cappies!
more like crapitalism

>since when was Stockhausen capitalist

Read Cornelius Cardew's writings on Stockhausen.

Notice the fact that no one has been able to list a single good artist who was passionate about capitalism.

Go back to Sup Forums, but first actually learn what communism and the left is. Not all communists believe in Leninism or stalinism. Some of us are anarchists
> inb4 stupid comments about how edgy I am

That's not Stockhausen, that's the perception of him from Fluxus.
Are they right or wrong? That's subjective: but you can't compare Stockhausen's radical musical experiments with schmaltzy Copland or corporate Jazz or corporate Rock/Pop.

Every single Hip Hop artist.
>love moneys
>bitches
>power
Your welcome.

Name a single good artist who was a communist other than Cornelius Cardew.

>Notice the fact that no one has been able to list a single good artist who was passionate about capitalism.

Most artists are passionate about capitalism.

theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/29/radiohead-corporate-structure-firms

You are not edgy, you are just economically illiterate.

>Some of us are anarchists

anarcho-communism: for when you want to piss off your mean old rethugliKKKan dad but just can't decide whether you want to do it by pretending to be a commie or pretending to be an anarchist.

Fascist Italy had some cool art.

>good
>Radiohead
>inspired by Mingus and Penderecki
>latest release is a bunch of ambient pop with no hooks
>capitalist

>uhhh republicans suck
>no u
Who thought this was worth a screencap

now you're just pulling strings out from your asshole

It is the okay to be opinionated retard, that's why you don't get arrested for being one.

What am I wrong about?

>Radiohead
>inspired by Mingus and Penderecki
>latest release is a bunch of ambient pop with no hooks
>capitalist

Yes. Extremely capitalist. So is just about any other band you can think of. Read the article I linked and stop being such a naive goof.

>taking influence from an artist music = taking influence from an artists political position
seems like a load of bullshit

I guess I'm not surprised that watered down experimental music is actually extremely corporate the same as blatantly corporate music.

>"capitalism = consumerism and mass culture" meme

Kys

see

>"watered down experimental music"

"Real" experimental music is just as corporate as blatantly corporate music itself. Just look at the small industries that have popped up in recent years around re-releases and books and archival releases by bands like Coil or Nurse With Wound or whatnot.
You owe every single thing you love to capitalism. Every single deeply-held belief you have about rights and laws, you owe to capitalism and the comfort which it provides you with. Just accept it and move on.

Nope. Why would you want to privatize everything? Have you ever been poor? Capitalism breeds hate, greed, nationalism, wars, etc.
I don't talk to my dad. But he's a liberal hippie.

>>good
Kanye West and other musicians are heavy recognize as good

>"Real" experimental music is just as corporate as blatantly corporate music itself
La Monte Young is corporate?
Henry Flynt is corporate?
John Cage is corporate?
Mark Applebaum is corporate?
god you're an idiot

this just in Brian Ferneyhough is a capitalist shill

listen to this Platinum selling composition: youtube.com/watch?v=piBqsmYcj0s

>Capitalism breeds hate, greed, nationalism, wars, etc.

this must be why yugoslavia, that shining beacon of functional and benevolent socialism, split up in such a peaceful and civilized manner
this must be why venezuela is such a safe and prosperous county, truly an ideal to aspire towards
oh, wait...

>Why would you want to privatize everything?

I don't want to privatize everything, I'm not an anarcho-capitalist

>Capitalism breeds hate, greed, nationalism, wars

Provide empirical evidence that proves this statement.

Very much so.
John Cage in particular is as much of a product of capitalist society as Britney Spears.
Jesus, you're not even in college yet, are you?

>nationalism
>bad

>poor 3rd world country tries socialism
LOOK IT DOESN'T WORK
>rich 1st world country tries capitalism
LOOK IT SOMEWHAT WORKS EXCEPT FOR THE MANY TIMES IT DOESN'T BUT FUCK THE POOR

John Cage did not make his money from record companies, he made it off of grants and government programs.

>he thinks yugoslavia was poor

lel
you're clueless

Poor people deserve to be poor

t. white suburban teenager

t. white suburban teenager in liberal university

>he thinks yugoslavia wasn't poor

>le just world maymay

There's a difference of being cognizant of privilege/racial dynamics and perpetuating them ignorantly.

>John Cage did not make his money from record companies, he made it off of grants and government programs.

This isn't an argument that goes in your favor and it has very little bearing on what I said.

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Grants and government programs are not capitalist if that's what you're arguing, fucking kek

yep, you're a moron

yes, ones promotes demoralization of the civilian from his own country and the other doesn't

John Cage was a softspoken lover of capitalism.

>if that's what you're arguing

I'm not. You'll figure it out sooner or later.

One is being an intelligent, thoughtful member of society who can more openly assess situations through their impartiality.
The other is just a dumb white nationalist.
Good source.