Who wins?

Who wins?

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do modern soldiers get jets? or it it a 10000 vs 100 on ground with just guns?

kek, soldier derp in the front with his hat over his eyes

I assume OP meant just the soldiers without anything else. With jets it would be over in a second obviously.

My bet is on the red coats though, sure they'll kill plenty but just the sheer number should overwhelm them.

if its the 10000 vs the 100 just on ground then i go with red coats

lol...

Clearly you don't know the differences between muskets and modern assault rifles.

that's got to suck if he can't risk fixing it

OP didn't say there'd be guns

300 redcoats would mow them down

They shoot once and storm with bayonets. They dont stabd a chance.

There are 100 muskets for every modern rifle.

The stick.

100 modern soldiers easy

Modern soldiers, first couple thousand will fall during their march to the battle field and the rest is a range game. Those muskets hit shit at ranges a modern rifle shoots. Plus designated Marksmen cut down the officers and it will be panic everywhere.

In one second 100000 shots would be fored from red coats, accuracy does not need to exist at this point

Due to friendly fire the modern American soldiers numbers will quickly drop while the rest are taken out by musket fire

If the us soldiers have modern guns they would win. Muskets are inaccurate as fuck. The us soldiers can stand 200 yards away and just now them down.

>assault rifle
Nigger you what
Assault rifle is a political term tossed around by the left to make guns sound bad. Assault is an action. Not an object.

Range does though.

Just because they're old fashioned doesn't mean they're stupid.

They would just surround you and could probably kill all the modern soldiers with knives.

Well, as long as the 100 modern US soldiers don't have to line up at 50 yards and exchange fire like a bunch of faggots, they'd destroy the redcoats

we're talking about a military force that was tactically inept, so im going with the 100 modern soldiers

If 10000 muskets fire at once you are pretty much throwing a wall at the 100 men at that point, britbongs win

Red coats
- shoot once every 30 seconds
- horrible range
- horrible accuracy
- stand in the open like a retard
- no armor
Modern soldiers have an easy win

they're soldiers, they dont fight with their dicks

It depends on so much, it's impossible to say without defining the scenario more, but unless the "modern soldiers" are backed by "modern logistics" and an economic superpower, then the difference between "modern" and "ancient" is just the training they get, so the redcoats would win overwhelmingly.

But if the "modern soldiers" have armored humvees and helicopters and logistic support and intelligence and everything, then the red coats are fucked.

Yes this strategy worked very well in ww1

Assault rifle implies the rifle is designed for assaulting. In the same way you can have a T-rifle which is used as a delicious desert during elevensies.

Gonna give a few scenarios to spark a discussion maybe
>Facing one another on a flat plain without cover 1km away from each other.
>modern day city with all houses unlocked and have the map of the city.
>night time on the unlimited field still starting 1km but knowing the general direction where the other side is.
>unlimited flat field with really heavy fog.
>mountain with narrow paths and heavy rock collapse chance.

/thread
Location matters more than anything. Us soldiers would do a fighting retreat. Set up fields of fire and just cut them down. Also after dust volley of muskets. Redcoats can see shit so us split as re engage at will. Anyone who thinks redcoats win is a fucking idiot

>- stand in the open like a retard
They aren't retarded. The only reason they stand in the open is because the other team does, too.

The CO would easily change his tactics.

not sure if serious or just pretending to be autistic

How would they accomplish that envelopment against a smaller, more mobile, better armed force?

They don't even have to kill all 10,000 of them. Imagine how devastated the redcoats' morale would be after taking 30% casualties on their approach march.

Because they're old means they have old tactics, especially marching in formation on the battlefield. Why would they change that with no information what the enemy is capable of?

No one in this thread knows what they're talking about.

like you'd know

Wouldn't even be close. 100 modern US soldiers for the win.

Between light and heavy machine guns, a few mortar teams, fireteams armed with automatic rifles and grenade launchers, and snipers... the red coats would be slaughtered.

This is where the scenario needs to be clarified. They talk about "modern soldier" right? Well, some chinese conscript training with an air rifle in the middle of china right now is a "modern soldier"

If we're talking about a shitton of modern equipment and defense positions, then that's something else. I'm imagining just the soldiers in an open field, not entrenched in a fucking bunker with machine gun turrets everywhere.

10,000 of military would beat 100 of any other. that is 100 red coats for every 1 soldier.

Not that guy, but actually dumbass - assault rifle is the proper nomenclature for a select fire rifle. An AR15 is not an assault rifle, an M4 or M16 is.

There is no possible way that they could concentrate 10,000 muskets on a target the size of an infantry company. The frontage of the redcoats is just too large to make that work.

where?
what terrain?
what are the rules of engagement?
do they have info on each other?
Is there chain of command?

If you just drop both groups on the open field, Red coats will win, probably with 2 salvos.

If moderns can create their engagement they would win 90%+ of the time.

If they get dropped somewhere around and need to face eachother then modern soldiers will always win, most of the time without losses just be creating ambushes and eliminating officers.

if theres only a finite amount of resources, the red coats would win

I suppose you refer to magazines as clips as well

There have been some creative Generals in history. I hardly think they would just stand there in formation when getting shot at from an unseen enemy.

Are you dumb? Look up cost it takes to train a solider. Old training is phased out because it's obsolete. Modern training is better in everyway. The modern solider is trained to fight a certain way whereas redcoats have no training per say it's literally just how fast you can reload and launch a volley at 200yrds.

I mean if they all stand how they would normally they could all fire in skatter so it would make a wall which would be hard to dodge unless you had cover

To what? They lined up like that because it's the only way to hit something over 50yrds.

quality over quantity

No he would not because the military training at the time was horrible narrow minded. That's why militia with guerrilla tactics could provide so much trouble to the redcoats in the beginning.

By redcoats do you mean the uniform because if so you could use the last dated version of a redcoat which would at least use a martini-henry

>i watch the history channel

>team
what

Well a bunch of niggers in loin cloths and animal hides wrecked the "modern" soldiers of Britain the first time they tried to wipe out the Zulus, and 100 to one are seriously bad odds.

10,000 people is a lot, guys. Even unarmed, I'm not sure 100 soldiers could wipe them out so easily unless they're in a really entrenched and fortified position.

10,000 is a lot.


And if we're talking about them having equipment, then the redcoats are going to have cavalry and artillery, as well.

>SO MUCH THIS

AND WHAT ABOUT 10.000 ATTILA HUNS VS 100 FAGS I MEAN MARINES?

It took almost 2 years for the Brits to change their tactics during WWI

Considering that's exactly what happened during the Seven Year's War and the Revolutionary War, I think it would likely happen again.

An 18th century British army isn't suddenly going to develop the tactics to deal with an American infantry company from 2017. They're going to get massacred and retreat in disorder.

exactly. these retards think a us soldier is capable of killing 100+ men apiece.

Put it this way, if you sent 5 special forces operatives back to the war for independace they could cripple the british effort in a month.

Modern tactics are nothing like anything they would be used to. Our modern rifles have ranges on them that are beyond that of human eyesight.

An entire british encampment could be picked off from under cover and they wouldnt know what the fuck was going on. Just that their fellow officers were getting holes from unseen weapons fire.

100 US soldiers
>guerrilla warfare
>long range guns
>30+ rounds in a mag (less than 10 sec reload)
>much much more accurate
>full auto capabilities (shred through 10k in no time)
>hard to spot

10k redcoats
>wearing red coats in a green/ yellow environment
>1 shot that will most likely miss
>long ass reload
>inefficient guns
>terrible bullets
>single fire only
>large number

Its all about guns, ammo, and uniform.

Better question would be 10k red army vs 100 US

nah dude, you don't know what you're talking about. Can you actually picture the difference between 100 men and 10,000 men? I mean, like honestly visualize it? Get real. Even if they just had fucking sticks and stones, 10,000 men is a lot to fucking handle even if you're in a fortress.

Red coats would shit and run away as soon as 1 soldier started firing an automatic and killing everyone around them while they're lined up like retards

Dude, the redcoats couldn't beat the american soldiers in the 18th century despite outnumbering them and now the American have the advantage of modern warfare. The redcoats are fucked just like last time.

clearly u dont know the difference between 10,000 and 100 people

With little to no armour on the redfags, then ya they most definitely could

They don't need to kill all 10000, just enough to destroy morale

ok assault rifle is actually a thing/class of weapon, but an 'assault weapon' is the scary political term

Ten thousand men marching in three ranks across level ground would take up 3000-4000 meters of frontage. When you consider the spacing between battalions, any broken terrain, and the natural tendency of formations to open up, then that frontage gets even wider.

That US infantry company is maybe taking up a quarter of the frontage that the redcoat line is. Therefore the redcoats can only engage with part of their line at a time. Therefore there is no way to bring all 10,000 muskets to bear in a single volley at once, or even as three continuous volleys.

No fucktard, the kind of moron who doesn't know that a select fire rifle is properly labeled an assault rifle is the type of person who doesn't understand the difference between a magazine, an en-bloc clip, and a clip; that kind of idiot being you.

there weren't 100 redcoats to each American or there would never have been an America.

fucking sand niggers have no armor and we dont see us soldiers walking away with piles of kills, i think youre really underestimating what it takes to kill someone

How many
>Women
>Trannies
>Disable
The modern Soldiers have?

redcoats only knew how to battle by standing in lines and firing volleys. Stay outside their range, split up into multiple squads, and pick them off past 300 yards.

>Facing one another on a flat plain without cover 1km away from each other.
Modern soldiers. 1km range is far too distant for the redcoats. They'd get mowed down well before they got within range to fire back with their inaccurate slow firing muskets against armoured infantry.
>modern day city with all houses unlocked and have the map of the city.
Modern soldiers
>night time on the unlimited field still starting 1km but knowing the general direction where the other side is.
Modern soldiers
>unlimited flat field with really heavy fog.
Modern soldiers
>mountain with narrow paths and heavy rock collapse chance.
Modern soldiers

Haji also didn't engage us by advancing in ranks at a slow march.

The redcoats would get fucked.

THAT is NOT cool dude >:(((((

I did not say that, I said they would march in the beginning in formation into 100 Army men waiting for them. 100 men are ~4 platoons with 3 9 mans quads each in the army. Thats 24 M249 light machine guns and 24 under barrel 40mm grenate launchers plus 12 SDM eliminating the complete command structure of the red coats in the first moments of the battle while the LMGs and grenade launchers rain hell on earth on them like they have never seen. Any red coat still standing and trying to get 1 shoot at them would have my deepest respect.

US Army Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide - FSTC-CW-07-03-70

"The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as 'short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.'"

"In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:
It must be capable of selective fire.
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle, such as the 7.92×33mm Kurz, the 7.62x39mm and the 5.56x45mm NATO.
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
It must have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards)."

Go kill yourself.

he makes a good point

Probably 1 in 10. Thanks Obama.

dubs confirmed for autist

>we dont see us soldiers walking away with piles of kills
...Are you being serious right now?

red coats just stand out in open fields and wait for the fight.

Play this in Civ 5

At the time of "British Redcoats" There was a lot of ritual in warfare. There was a designated ceasefire time where they would pick the wounded, and a point where they would surrender and retreat, and suchlike.

Fighting the American Insurgency, Britain faced a new and demonic adversary that did not keep to the ritualized nature of the warfare they were used to. The American Insurgents used guerilla tactics and unethical stratagems such as attacking on Christmas Morning.

If you consider that, then it's like asking if a single nigger felon could wipe out a 100 pacifist scientists. Probably, right? I mean, if we're talking about killing people in their sleep and all that shit that "Modern Soldiers" do, then of course the old armies don't stand a chance. War for the British was never "Total war" It was about shows of force. Modern Warfare is right back to salting the fucking earth and shit like that.

no one gives a shit you autistic faggot

Depends when the fight is set with the modern soldiers being adapted to diseases, then again modern soldiers still would most likely win.

>disable
If you cout mentall disabled then all of them. You have to be a few fries short of a happy meal to willingly join the military.

I imagine the modern soldiers could just stand behind some trees and take out like, 50-75% of the line of redcoats with their automatic rifles before the redcoats knew what hit them.

Redcoats got wrecked by native americans and they had fucking bows and harchets...

>i was wrong :(
gfkys

yes, you dick sucking maggot

Holy shit, you're fucking stupid then lol

Army Rifle squads have 9 men 2 LMGs and 2 40mm grenade launchers. It wouldn't take long to get past their 400 men quota while the red coats stand in formation waiting for the enemy to march on the battle field.

This guy gets it.

It would be over right quick.

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The redcoats will not kill shit at range. Their morale will plummet as casualites pile up. The only real question is will they behave like real people and retreat when 1000 men die in the first minute or will they rush in like zombies? They will literally think the enemy some demonspawn and gtfo.

Well the redcoats will first try a classic battleorder... the assaultrifles will fire down their lines, lots will die in this moment. Some moderns soldiers will met the ground, but their protection will save most of them. Well, just think what the germans did with russia in wwII, and theses armys werde only divided by some decades of time and technology... the red coats will meet their creator soon.

if a single us soldier has 100 confirmed kills then please enlighten, else go fuck yourself

Like 99% of the people in this thread have no idea what a TO&E is bruh, you're speaking Chinese to them.