Objectively the best route

Objectively the best route.

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walking around mountains takes a long ass time

Rohan and Gondor would have long since fallen by that point.

>Caring this much about dumb ass manlet walking adventures cloakshit to make a map of how to get to faggot mountain and put the one cockring in the jizz lava easier

lel get a life bro

Are you retarded?

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I beg to differ.

It would've probably been quicker than constantly being stuck and seperated in dangerous areas

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Why do people post this in every one of these threads we have? It isn't clever, funny, or even amusing.

Theyll never see it coming

Fuck meeting at Rivendell btw

Couldn't you just sail to the Undying Lands

Was middle earth flat or round?

Give the ring to Bombadil. See what happens

There are no great eagles in Eriador. You'd have to go to the Misty Mountains to find them first.

Doesnt gandalf just have to whisper to a moth or smth

Is that in the books even

The Valar wouldn't let that fucking ring into their goddamn lands. They'd be all "fuck off with that shit." Also, they don't normally allow anybody but elves and maiar in anyway, and you don't want those guys transporting the ring.

>Fuck meeting at Rivendell

B-but, there wouldn't be a fellowship if they didn't go to Rivendell.

No, it's not in the books. The eagles only help him when they feel like it and happen to be in the area.

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no

the only reason the eagles help gandalf is because manwe tells them to, because gandalf is one of manwe's maiar so he doesnt want him to fail

oh snap

enjoy getting fucked by southern pirates...

this would objectively be the better route

There's a huge amount of land back there

corsairs

Wait, how did the guys get from Rohan to Gondor again?

It looks completely walled by mountains?

used to be flat, is round during lotr

>Transporting the ring that close to gondor

Try again, faggot

doesn't middle earth go on and on and on in that eastward direction? Like literally almost the size of middle earth again.

There are creatures in those waters which would rip your asshole apart and wear you like a fucking hat.

Hobbits are deathly afraid of water, user.
Even small lakes and rivers terrify them, and they think boats are almost taboo.

This is a lot of hoop jumping from a """great""" writer

Why do you Start from AnnĂºminas though?

What was the actual route?

Minis tirith is at the end of the white mountains closest to Mordor.

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Yeah and while they're taking their time the rest of middle earth falls to sauron

fuck the fellowship. Gandalf and frodo step in a boat and go through that river into Mordor

Sam can stay in the shire

that is really small

why the gods live in that shithole?

source needed

guys, I cracked it

Why did they cut Glorfindel from the movies?

I was expecting the undying lands to be smaller than that

Nah. Too close to Umbar and would have to go through Haradrim lands

>Take the Ring to Gondor
>presumably if this is done, Boromir is still alive
>the Ring starts affecting his mind along the way
>the closer they get to Mordor, the stronger its pull on him becomes
>once they're in Gondor, he caves, tries to steal the Ring, and is foiled
>Aragorn and the rest aren't willing to kill him, so they just force him out of the party
>he goes straight to Denethor
>now every authority in Gondor is hunting for the Fellowship as supposed "spies" and "traitors"
>draws much needed manpower away from the defenses against Mordor and forces the Fellowship to fight and kill noble Gondorians who don't know what's going on instead of the vile orcs

They don't, whenever they are there they wreck shit

Hobbits are afraid of fucking MORDOR as well but they went anyway

most of the stuff to the far north/south on this map collapsed into the ocean

they needed to give liv tyler more screentime

He was too good for this Middle-Earth.

Can't be done buddy.
The undying lands lie in the west. Any mortal man that tries to get there would be killed or at least sent back to middle earth by the Valar.

That's a massive amount of conjecture, Tolkien only made vague references to lands beyond Middle-Earth and Beleriand. That lung shape is no more accurate than something a blind man who has never heard of the books could draw.

Source is my ass, m8. But let me tell you, there's some serious Lovecraftian shit in those waters. Real nightmare type stuff.

Tolkien: fuck shitskin countries, they don't need cities or whatever

Pretty solid. If they pick up allies from all over they can just march into Mordor.

That is not the entire map, Numenor doesn't exist anymore, Helcaraxe doesn't exist anymore and Valinor isn't in the same realm as the rest of Arda is

Mordor is ideal for hobbits, no rivers and no lakes at all except that one in the south east.

Why dont you go and rewrite lotr with cthultu coming out of the ocean motherfucker?

After the fall of Numenor, the Undying Lands aren't even just in "the west." They've been removed from the physical world, and exist beyond the veil. That's what all of Gandalf's talk about the "grey rain curtain of this world" rolling back and everything turning to "silver glass." He was talking about dimensional travel.

That map is very confusing, that's what you get for trying to fill in the blanks and represent different ages at the same time.

I'd love to see a map of the routes of Frodo and Sam/Legolas, Aragorn, and Gimli/Merry and Pippin all on the same map

you mean like everwhere else?

This is wrong, Beleriand was attached to the part of Middle Earth where the action takes place but it sank into the sea

Not really, the planet is still spherical, the Undying Lands can only be reached by the Straight Road, which is why only Elves and Maia can travel it, everyone else just sails around the world.

This. The waters south of Gondor largely belong to Umbar's fleets.

why not just walk to gondor and then use the dwarves to dig to mount doom?

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there is a ton of those, you could download the atlas of Middle-Earth for example.

>not visiting Gundaband
>not passing through the Ettenmoors
>not passing through Isengard
>not stopping by Dol Guldur or Barad Dur

It's like you want to succeed.

Can someone post their actual route, with Frodo's and Aragorn's routes separate?

Here you go, then.

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Gandalf can just blast away their ships on the go.

See the post right below yours.

OK lore fags.

Who the fuck is umbar?

Why couldn't they just travel via sea? They faced a fucking balrog and orc armies. Surely the sea didn't have something worse.

What exactly are the undying lands? And how come they can sail to it if the sea is so dangerous to sail?

> not passing the shire again and collecting 200 gold

Umbar was the Seaport the Numoreans used to collect taxes and stuff from middle-earth and got taken over by the black numenoreans with the fall of Numenor and then lost to Harad.

He can't do that indefinitely without tiring himself. Gandalf the Grey is a lot less powerful than Gandalf the White. He couldn't destroy a whole fleet. And even if he did, it would give away their position. The whole point of their mission was stealth, preventing Sauron from realizing what they were really planning.

>there will never be a silmarillion movie with elves dressed like ancient greeks

>Why couldn't they just travel via sea? They faced a fucking balrog and orc armies. Surely the sea didn't have something worse.

Pirates. The "free peoples" of Middle Earth were way outnumbered by other men who were controlled by Sauron. They even outnumbered his armies of orks. They had just as much to fear from their fellow men.

As far as the Undying Lands are concerned I know nothing of it and thought it was just an analogy of the death of the mystical and a moving on to the age of men. A sort of Heaven.

Why did they take such a long route in the yellow path? Just to collect the Rohirrim outriders and flank the orcs at Minas Tirith?

There is lovecraftian shit in lotr in the sense that melkor pretty much pissed everywhere and created so many monsters that they are most definately in the sea and various ainur just come into the world of lotr to fuck around like ungoliant the giant spider that spins darkness as a web.

the undying lands is where the gods and the elves who never left live

only elves can sail to them on special ships (special exceptions are made for several members of other races) and they dont exactly "sail" to them the normal way since the undying lands are no longer a part of the same world as middle earth - they once were but men tried to invade them so the gods literally bent the earth, making it round (it was flat until then) and moved the entire undying lands somewhere else

Buckleberry Ferry

>Crossing Isengard

Gandalf isn't supposed to do that. The rule of fair play says he can only bust out magic when facing enemys as powerfull as he is like the balrog

The Undyinmg Lands are the lands of the Gods, basically. And the seas aren't that dangerous, the user talking about sea monsters was full of shit. It is a vast distance, though, and there are the Enchanted Islands before you reach the Undying Lands; anyone who lands on or sails too close to those islands falls into a magical sleep, and the archipelago is huge, forming a maze of islands. Plus, the Undying lands themselves don't really exist in the physical world, so even if you got past the Enchanted Islands, you'd just find open ocean unless the "gods" allowed you further passage like they do to the elves and certain rare individuals they reward.

wait how? some shit in the silmarillion or something?

In the books that was Aragorn and company collecting Gondor armies, defeating raiders and minor Mordor armies on the way

>not just giving glorfindel the ring and having gandalf, elrond, galadriel and her pleb husband back him.
Could literally just simply walk into mordor

but fordo and sam were in osgiliath for a while

There. Problem solved. If Sauron wants his ring back he can talk it over with Manwe. He was supposed to have a chat with him anyways.

BTW, why didn't Eonwe arrest Sauron right then and there?

Holy shit I wanna punch the blond wanker

yes

when the numenoreans tried to invade aman, the valar sank their fleet, collapsed numenor into the sea and bent the world, making the undying lands unreachable for everyone but elves and those the valar specifically permitted to enter the undying lands

they literally suggest sending the ring beyond the sea during the council and gandalf says that the valar will not have it

Thats a pretty formidable team you got there.

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If you're an elf you can sail in one direction straight on to your little heaven thing, but for everyone else it wraps around back on itself.