Okay you faggots, if you're such good writers, let's see how you would have made a good movie out of this

Okay you faggots, if you're such good writers, let's see how you would have made a good movie out of this.

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[rain assaults the ground]

it was a good movie pleb. Better than every single marvel movie. Ultimate edition adds coherency to the plot

if its so hard to make a good script out of this why was this one made

they actually thought it was good

No LOTR troll
No 15-year-old Lex Luthor
No "Martha" bullshit
Give a good reason for them to fight, like, Lex mind-controlled Supes, or the two really really hate each other

There you go

>Lois is a minor character
>the entire movie is about building the tension between the two
>Batman and Superman fights for a while longer
>Lex behind the scenes
>unleashes Metallo instead of wasting Doomsday right away
>Metallo starts wrecking shit
>Trinity teams up
>defeats Metallo
>forms Justice League

Adapt the Dark Knight Rises, but remove the Mutant story and go from there, Joker, Harvey, government calls in Superman.

>more motivation for Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor to feel the way they do about Super Man
>no Martha shit
>JL file email bullshit relegated to after credits scene
>more Superman

And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Immediately cut out around an hour of it.

Have an action scene happen in the first 20 minutes.

Cut out Wonder Woman - the actress who plays her is just fine, but the character was pointless in this film

Have Batman and Superman fight for more than 5 minutes.

More Joker-centric society.

Joker is the key to this. If they could make him work.

This.

I think Batman wanting to kill Superman is totally legit. There's too much risk, from his point of view, to allow him to live.

Superman like in TDKR can be a government patsy.
Superman is young in his career. He doesn't know how to guide himself to he allows himself to be controlled.

Lex is annoyed by Batman and, like in the actual movie, he tries to hurt Superman through the government.

Cut WW entirely too.
This should be Superman/Batman's movie

tell that to zod's snapped neck

>fire Hack Snyder
>hire Nolan
>Do Death in the Family except with Superman fighting Batman
>Kino

Have him and a bald, middle-aged, intelligent Lex turn Batman and Superman against each other.

Man of Steel (Snyder/Goyer, 2013)

The Batman (Affleck/Paul Dini, 2015)

Man of Tomorrow (Romero/Max Landis :^) , 2016)

Then you can make a good BvS in 2017 and a better Justice League in 2018

Marvel and DC should combine their companies, the material it would create would fill centuries.

No, Marvel is churning out too many cookie-cutter capeshit flicks as it is.

Keep them away from DC.

>keep them away from DC
Because ti's been working SOOOO well so far

That's what DC should be doing. Marvel is smart, they're milking every side character they can and everybody is eating it up. DC is trying to rush. I mean, we already have Justice League coming up? They should have made a Flash movie, an Aquaman movie, and Wonder Woman movie before that.

>cut out all connections to justice league future movies
>cut out shitty dream sequences
>cut out beginning we already know batman's parents being killed
>cut out batman begins cave scene dont care zach stop wanking
>add some humor to the movie
>make superman actually bright and kind of square to contrast batman instead of just two mean pissed off brooding downers fucking superman should be annoying to batman because he's so optimistic compared to batman
>cut out stupid sub plots like lex luthor "setting up" superman and lois lane in africa with cia doesn't even feel like a fucking superman or batman movie at this point
>you know what cut out lois lane altogether what the fuck is she even doing here she does absolutely nothing anyways
>again cut out subplot to "discover" the fucking meta human files, what was that I even rename my porn folders to like "taxes" even lex luthor couldn't do that WHAT
>contrast metropololis to be bright and colorful to gotham's dark and gritty setting
>give superman exicting scenes with happy music with him saving shit and being the good guy its like zach snyder actively rejected all of this superman should have thrown that bomb wheelchair out into the fucking sky saving everyone but no we get a room full of burned charred bodies with superman sitting there feeling so bad fuck this movie
>again cut this movie down to its core plot and characters add some interesting dialogue because there is none at this point
>take out whole doomsday plot with lex luthor not even needed in this movie its so badly managed and mangles the comic book story its a fucking joke
>make lex luthor instead his plot is just to get superman and batman to fight in the first place that's interesting enough without a CGI monster
>lets have superman alive and instead he just leaves into space way cooler
>remove zach snyder and that writer and replace with better people


at least they're doing the last one at least I think

oh and cut out 99% of the fucking news shots fucking news news news fuck fuck fuck this fucking movie, and its not even exciting one of the more boring movies I saw this year

I would have just paid attention.

Oh my god.
Batman vs Superman

I just got it.

Batman is a big guy. No explanation needed.

But everyone is Superman. See the pic related. Every man can be Superman.
So You are Superman.

Batman = Big Guy
Superman = You

Big Guy v You.

Big Guy for You.

Nailed it.

In all seriousness, ever seen a movie where the villain never explicitly spelled out his scheme? Because that's what we got. Everything Lex does either makes no sense for the plan he tells Superman(and the audience) that he has, or it makes perfect sense for a plan he never reveals to anyone.

Remember - this is a guy we already know has zero issues lying when it suits his ends.

It's already been done

youtube.com/watch?v=F90nxOlsm1s

just do this in live action.

I can get a villain saying one thing and wanting another, but Doomsday is just too retarded.

Superman barely killed Zod the first time around.
This time he's even greater. What did Lex want?
Even if he believed that he could bind Doomsday to his will with his blood, he didn't even believe Superman could be all good.

If Lex made Metallo or some other monster, it'd be fine.
But making a being that is on all counts a greater danger than even Superman, that just doesn't make sense.

Hell, Doomsday tried his best to kill Lex in his birth.

Either we accept that the movie doesn't make sense, or we accept that Lex is just stupid in universe.

Both ways are bad.

Why do you think he had to release Doomsday when he did? He'd only already started the countdown because he knew that he was fucked.

What do you think he expected to happen at Fight Night? Let's start with just that.

So you're saying getting caught was part of his plan?

If use the fullest of my imagination, I can only imagine that Batman failing to kill Supes created in a suicidal tendency. He created Doomsday as a petty spiteful measure. Even if all of humanity dies, "humanity" (i.e. Lex) was still able to do something to kill God (i.e. Superman). Just one thing to mar the cosmic record of things.

What Lex hoped from Batman v Superman was that Superman would die. I can only see him seeing Batman as humanity's champion.

Look, I like Lex's basic motivation. He hates Superman because he represent something totally above mankind. A man can never ever do what Superman does, and that's repulsive.
To kill Superman would be the greatest accomplishment man has done so far. I get that. I understand that.

But he does it so... Haphazardly. Batman should have only been one part of the plan. Not just a "Well we'll wait and see".

Doomsday is just to irrational.

Do you think a Superman fully intent on killing the Batman couldn't accomplish that task in seconds, kryptonite or not? Do you think Lex gave Bruce anything more than a puncher's chance in that fight?

That's what bothers me about the fight.
Superman has every reason to try to talk out the fight.
But after the first confrontation, Cavill wears his warface.
It certainly doesn't look like Superman is reluctantly fighting.
Like the scene where he runs through all those walls.
It doesn't look like a "Gee, let's talk it out".

He really does appear to want to kill Batman.
Doubly so with the scenes beforehand where Clark somehow blames Batman for people being killed in prison for having the Batbrand, which doesn't even make sense.

Once he got hit with the first kryptonite grenade, he genuinely was fighting for his life, but leave that aside for the moment, and answer this question:

Who do you think Lex was putting his money on as the fight's victor?

>No LOTR troll
Somewhat fair. I appreciate why he was there though

>No 15-year-old Lex Luthor
Really? You think Jesse Eisenberg looked 15? You're trying too hard

>No "Martha" bullshit
Do you seriously still not understand that scene or are you just memeing?

>Give a good reason for them to fight, like, Lex mind-controlled Supes, or the two really really hate each other
Or, y'know, the reason in the film where Batman represented America's fear of the potential of WMDs along with Bruce's insecurity of coming face-to-face with something more than human, meanwhile Superman being manipulated and fighting for one of only 2 people in the world he actually loves who accepts him

But nah, there should have been some shallow government intervention causing them to have a petite squabble with no stakes where they weren't actually trying to hurt each other. That would have had way more substance

Just adapt the dark knight returns 1:1 and call it a day

>Who do you think Lex was putting his money on as the fight's victor?
I assume you forgot [Batman] in there, but he was putting money on him because Lex had faith in humanity.
He had to. Otherwise what's the point?

Everything he does makes perfect sense
Yes he lies a lot, like you'd expect from a manipulative psychopath trying to regain control

>petite squabble

>Or, y'know, the reason in the film where Batman represented America's fear of the potential of WMDs
Not character motivation.

He wanted Batman to win to show that Superman wasn't a god.
He released Doomsday as a way to harness the kryptonians power. He didn't know what the effect would be, but figured that since he used his own blood he'd be safe
If superman had lost, Lex would've died. But Lex didn't know that

>batman is tinkering in his batcave
>hears a loud noise outside and checks to see what's up
>Supes has just plopped the Fortress of Solitude next door
>Oh sorry Bruce, didn't realize you were here. No reason we both can't be here though
>Supes plays loud music, has rowdy parties, Krypto shits on Bat's Lawn
>Christmas time comes and Bats usually has the best light display in the neighborhood, but Superman's speed and strength allows him to put up the fanciest display in a matter of seconds
>Batman tries to sabotage the display in many ways, but Supes can just fix it up real quick and he gets annoyed
>Lex and Joker catch wind of this, steal baby Jesus from the nativity scene, frame it on Batman
>Supes thinks Batman has gone too far, knocks on his batcave door, ready to beat the shit out of him
>Batman calmly explains he didn't do it, they team up and save Christmas
>End of the credit scene has wonderwoman landing her invisible plane and knocking over Superman's birdfeeder, more crazy antics for the sequel

Just film a live action dark knight returns

It is when his employees are killed from the effects of Kryptonians and Bruce sees his entire purpose of becoming the Bat as to protect society and those closest to him
But you'd have to not be a total retard to understand that

How about you? Knowing what you know about the effect kryptonite has on Kryptonians, if Superman legitimately wanted to kill Bruce, do you think kryptonite in the hands of a normal human being, Batman or not, would, or even could stop Superman?

nobody in this board and in hollywood could make a better movie than Snyder with this. Keep in mind that:

He is given a task to create a movie that:

1) an origin movie for Justice League
a) this will include scenes and character development for Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman
b) have the 3 team up to serve as a basis for Justice League - obviously this has to be a super villain since how can any human stand against 3 superheroes?
c) have that super villain be engineered by human to serve its origin and for connecting with the human personas of Superman and Batman

2. have a continuity to Superman's actions after the Man of Steel - this includes the political aspects of having an uncontrollable god exist in the presence of humans and its spiritual implications as well

3. Introduce Batman and relate him to Superman

4. Be distinctly different from Marvel movies - tackle the serious side of having heroes among us


Given this ginormous task, it’s amazing how Snyder was able to make it all work in his film. To cover all this points would take about 4 - 4 1/2 hours and I feel that if given the freedom Snyder would have done it so. A task of this magnitude would have failed Kubrick but Snyder has done it, although we admit this is not his best work but I would have loved to see what he could have done in a 4 hour epic Director's cut of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ™.

I'm excited to see more of Snyder's work. I'm not trolling I really do. Even his adaptation of The Fountainhead, but I really wish I could see it in Snyder's intended form. Not getting cut down to what the studio wants. A 4 hour Fountainhead and Justice League and see it in Snyder's vision would be amazing to see.

Batman ends up killing Superman.

He then experiences a ton more of horrifying nightmares until he realizes that what he has done was completely wrong.

Feeling guilty, he starts to go out and find the Justice League members.

And then at the end of Justice League Part One Superman returns.

There's already a hilarious comic about Batman and Superman fighting who can save Christmas

Bane?

Kryptonite has done everything.
There's a type that makes Superman gay for fuck's sake.

Kryptonite is a plot device. It does whatever the writer wants

I feel like you're memeing, but I unironically agree
Rumours are that WB is keeping him on because they accept that they gave him an impossible task, ruined the film by cutting it down, and yet he still delivered

>add some humor to the movie
stopped reading there
just go back to Marvel kid

> yet he still delivered

>one of the lowest rated movies in years
>far lower than average BO result
>public opinion of DC turned sharply downward affecting future movies

"Delivered"

We see the effect this kryptonite has. It renders Kryptonians weak and vulnerable to injury. What is your answer? What do you think?

basically WB wants to catch up to Marvel as past as possible. They have to make to time their JL movie te same time as Infinity hits. They know that capeshit won't last forever, they have to get their slice of the pie

>muh RT

if that's your gauge of what delivery is I feel sorry for you. Box Office is fine

Focus on character development and actual story telling and not on pretended EPIC MOMENTS (caps intentional)

Something more like the DCAU actually

>Box Office is fine
Not really.
This is Batman v Superman. The fucking biggest marquis of DC IP.

It couldn't have been "fine" or "OK" it needed to be a blockbuster.
But it wasn't.

In Hollywood if your project doesn't exceed expectations, it failed.

First, their intro should have been something like this, minus GL.
youtube.com/embed/wkFzXkpjXmM?start=175

Second, they should have avoided showing the trailers for Justice League twice during the movie.

Remove batmurder and make batman the good guy. His motivation is that he thinks superman is rogue so he comes out of retirement to nearly kill superman. The fight doesn't end with Martha but instead with batman throwing the spear down and superman realizing he's mortal. Batman becomes super mans deterrent.

your movie needs levity, especially your comic book movie.

TELL

it was a terrible idea for a movie in the first place. even "hero vs hero" comics are hacky

They're hacky unless they don't cut corners.
Heroes are by definition principled beings. Why else get off the couch?

It makes sense for them to fight if those principles suddenly clash.
But you're right. I've never seen it done right. Comics are written for children by hacks (excluding Alan Moore and sometimes Morrison)

So no answer at all?

Recast Lex Luthor with a older better actor.
Make the plot more about Lex trying to eliminate Superman by manipulating Batman into eliminating him. Lex would be the one who provides Batman with Kryptonite. Lex then creates Metallo as a backup plan when Batman teams up with Superman. It's revealed later on that Lex is running for president, so despite Superman and Batman knowing that Lex is behind all of this, they can't touch him for the time being. Superman and Batman then decide at the end of the film to create the Justice Lords

Then there is an after credits scene setting up Christian Bale as Batman and Brandon Routh as Superman walking through an interdimensional portal to their world to set up the Justice Lords arc.

Introduce other J Leaguers in a less clunky way, as background (such as news report on people seeing a red flash or man fly out of the sea).

Give Lex a better motive, have Supes be connected to a personal slight.

Make the chase scene have a real point.

Make Lex the Riddler. Keep Jessie and all his choices the same. But instead of being Lex Luthor, he's Eddy Nigma. It would be PERFECT

Holee shit this thread irrevocably proves why tv is nothing but nerds aspiring to even touch a film, every single idea presented here is awful
>Superman is mind controlled!
>Bat man doesn't kill lol, take all that stuff out
>Make bat man the obvious good guy!

I can't belive so many idiots miscontrue lex's motivations. At what point in the movie, did lex make you think that he supported humanity? He bombed a UN hearing with a crippled man's wheelchair and blew up his assistant without a care. He monologues about being "lied" to by the world (that people in power are/can be "good"). He even talks about his dad beating him. This is a nihilistic lex, he doesn't want to rule the world, he was already on the fast track to that; he wants to punish it for putting "evil" people like his father, superman, and even himself in charge. His strange mannerisms, the fact that his mother and himself were "left" to his father's cruel devices, and the fact that he is never shown to interact with anyone in a capacity that isn't furthering his plans shows that he has long been ostracized by "normies" and thus doesn't give a fuck about the common man. Ironically, the joker quote from tdk fits him well, it's about sending a message, even if it's written in the ash of humanity.

Literally no one can. People just say it is poorly written when they're writing knowledge comes from third tier comic book writing. Just look at Chris Stuckmann blatantly lazy screenwriting. I always find it funny when Sup Forumsutists think they could do a better job than industry professionals.

Terrio is a terrific screenwriter, so glad he won for Argo

Basically this

>"Please... save Martha... Martha Wayne!"
>"WHA...WHAT?! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!"
>"I'm you... from the future... sent to the past... to save our mother... Martha Wayne... Martha Kent. They're the same Martha!"
>"THEN WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? LET'S SAVE OUR MOM... TOGETHER!"

Perfect.

Why so people pretend the martha scene was actually good? Seriously someone explain this to me.

feelings. but I think you may be too autistic to understand them

It's like that scene from Watchmen.
Out of everything that could happen, this coincidence does.
Doesn't that mean something?
It's like oxygen turning to gold.

>films should be more like cartoons!

This is why no one will take you seriously

as god awful as the writing was, it could have been an ok movie. it is the editing that fucked it. it is literally 20 scenes. the transitions are jarring. and they do not flow.

we would still make fun of martha and the ending and the stealing the next movie's trailer. and everything about lex luthor.

but atleast it would have been an enjoyable movie.

Completely remove Lex.
Problem solved.

if all the key characters and events had to be in it.

I would switch it up so that first act would be pure superman after MoS, seen helping with the rebuilding of metropolis, aswell as saving people all around the world. While dealing with the critic of the media and people.

The goverment/rest of the world is scared of superman, so they want to force a deal where he signs a contract working for the goverment to give them more power but also keeping the people at bay.

Lex luthor will be cold,calculated and intelligent. He doesnt believe that superman is the savior that will protect the world but mearly a guy with the capability to destroy it should he wish to. In his eyes superman is nothing more then a big fuck you to the evolution of man and its ingenuity.

then the standard lexcorp being handed by the goverment to research the alien scoutship. Lex breaks the deal and starts doing his own experiments trying to find kryptonian weakness. Creates a monster, keep it hibernated until he finds a way to control it. goverment find out lex has been doing stuff behind their back. They kick lexcorp out of the job and forces them to leave and hand out all of the research. They release the mutated zod corpse.

Lex scenes would be scattered in pieces so before that will be the intro scene of BvS with bruce in metropolis. Cut to the presence and hes retired. Crime rate is at all time high. Then some yadda yadda bullshit superman couldve chosen to help gotham, but flees the scene when he sees the news of lois being in trouble yadda yadda bruce was there, dealt with the thugs himself. Sees how easy it is for superman to change his mind. Essentially left more people hanging in favor of saving less people but it had someone he loves there.

Bruce picks up the batman mantle again. However he beats up criminals rather then disarming and just handing them over. Still got his no kill rule as he belives if you made a excuse to take one, what stopps you from making another, aka murdere

Lol explain why it was so bad? Ive yet to see a single MARTHA poster come up with a reasonable argument. They say like 3 words to each other in their entire existence before that scene. Bat man thinks superman may or may not be a cunning Ayy L'mao which literally can't feel feelings and sits in a cave all day, and superman thinks bat man is a power hungry savage trying to impose his warped view of morals on an entire city. Bat man days plenty of shit as he wails on superman which shows superman he's just a paranoid man whose afraid of kryptonians, which is a fear superman himself has shared from Zod. Not to mention superman was the least invested in killing out of the two. So as he thinks he's going to die, he does the only thing that crosses his mind at the time which is try and save his mother. Remember this is literally like the 3rd unique sentence superman says to bat man, and the first one where he isn't in a threatening position of superiority. It shows to barman that maybe the being he thought was intrinsically alien in its motivations and thoughts is actually more alike than he thought. Not to mention his girlfriend runs up 2 seconds later crying begging to spare him. All the while bat man is a split second away from killing him, basically more mad and confused at this revelation than accepting, until lois explains that superman both has a living mother (whereas bat man may have assumed he hatched from a clutch of eggs for all he knows) and that said mother is in danger. All of this combined isn't enough for the worlds greatest detective to maybe think "gee, I may need to rethink this situation"?

Like I really don't see what you autists DONT understand?

This, it was the editing that had it all wrong. Unless it was intentional to make the film look like a dream ala Lynch

They are too autistic or too sheltered so they cannot comprehend basic human feelings. These are the same people who do stuff or listen to stuff without questioning it. They're almost like robots

Why do people believe that Lex was motivated solely out of some sort of grudge against God? Is it because he says so?

Isn't this the same guy who lied to, manipulated, and murdered government officials, lied to, manipulated, and murdered a cripple, and lied to, manipulated, and murdered his own assistant?

Why would you not instantly assume that he's not trying to do exactly the same thing to Clark and Bruce?

Superman gives in, finds out its better for both party if he signs under to work for the goverment.

First official job is on his own soil. gotta deal with the batman vigilante whos beating criminals to pulp while avoiding arrest.

blah blah warning to let it go, standard movie batman calls for him in a mech suite. It would go like this youtu.be/lGX307keXkM?t=76

Except for it being green arrow, batman was waiting for superman to let down his guard once he thought batman was no threat, which only couldve been done by having batman pretend he set up all these traps and tricks.

The kryptonite gas would be hidden as one of the smoke bombs so when batman pulls it up superman doesnt look bothered at all.

Queue in the punching, it gets interrupted when alfred interrupts and tells him about the mutated zod corpse. He leaves superman beated up and leaves for metropolis.

Remove wonder woman and doomsday. done.

I don't understand how people missed the part where Lex goes insane after telling the ship to teach him EVERYTHING IT KNOWS

>how did Lex know how to make Doomsday
>why did Lex go crazy
>who was Lex talking about in the prison
Maybe watch the fucking movie next time you dumb cunts

It was still a shit movie, but for fuck's sake, use the right reasons as an example for why it was shit

>This is Batman v Superman. The fucking biggest marquis of DC IP.
Not just DC.

batman and Superman are two of the most popular fictional characters of all time, and easily the most recognizable, probably second only to Super Mario, and maybe Spiderman depending on who you asked.

There was no reason BvS shouldn't have broken a billion easily.

>There was no reason BvS shouldn't have broken a billion easily.
I can think of one resaon

Not only that, but I recently realized that, intentionally or not, Lex's "solo" scenes at the ship are sort of a puzzle, just like him.

That scene where he learns everything, though placed way later in the film during Bruce's training montage, happened way earlier chronologically, all the way back when we first see him enter the scoutship with his briefcase, in fact. He's wearing the same suit.

It would have helped to have introduced the new Batman in his own movie before shoehorning him to fight superman

Yeah I don't think they were doing themselves any favors with how they placed Lex's scenes

I really think the "I can get you access to the ship" scene should have been after the senate bombing, so he could blame it on Superman, then use it as proof of how dangerous he is, and use that as leverage to get access to the ship.

There's a video out there that disects BvS and what the maker says is that Snyder cares little about the whole film and instead focuses on each moment.
Snyder is a director of moments.

Like the moment where Batman descends on that family on the roof.
Or where Batman confronts Superman for the first time.

Or a million different single moments in the film. There are some good ones, I can't refute. I even like that deleted scene with Lex in the Kryptonian ship communing with the alien.

Snyder loves moments. Things that last less than a minute and make an emotional impact. He's good at that.

But he's bad at stringing them together.

In perfect honesty, I disagree. I just think he communicates things visually when people are far more accustomed to assimilating information verbally.

You're a bit trolly, yeah, but part of what you say is true.
Snyder does have a good eye for visual pizzazz.

However, good visuals are useless without meaning. If the characters are farting about then suddenly beauty appears, it's made all the more ugly for being incongruous.

Movies need sinew and connective parts. Snyder vomits good cuts of meat onto a plate without bothering to stitch them together.

This, maybe it's just from playing too much souls recently but ive started looking for meaning in every little environmental shot.
>tfw a "10%" probability bat man makes sense in a world where robin died to the man who he consistently lets live IN SPITE of already committed crimes.

what the fuck does that even mean?

I here people defend bvs with this.line all the time. do you think other directors direct movies for the fucking soundtrack? do you think I disliked the movie because I am blind?

that user is on point. the movie is a bunch of good visually stunning scenes. that dont flow, barely relate to each other, and tell a haphazard story.

next you are going to tell me about greek mythology.

How stupid are you? The description of it is what it means you literally just don't understand pleb

>you just don't understand my silly latex freaks movies

Nigga he just being a troll.

The unironically uses kino type

The whole universe is fucked. You have to hit the reset button.

New Order:
Batman: Ground the fucking universe with a realistic, no supernatural bullshit Batman movie. You could even have the Joker be the villain because it's so vanilla.

Superman: Oh shit, a fucking alien God shows up. The status quo is forever changed. Have him fight Zod if you have to. He's a good foil for Superman. He sets him up as the "protector of earth" and whatnot.

Batman Vs Superman: They now have a plausible conflict. Superman is the savior of mankind. He has made Batman obsolete. Resentful, Batman wants a reason to believe that Superman isn't who he says he is and Braniac gives him one. Superman thinks Batman is a dangerous vigilante. Obviously they fight and then unite against Braniac.

Suicide Squad: Flip the script, they're the villains and the protagonists, make a future member of the Justice League the antagonist to introduce him/her.

Justice League: Youve already set up 3 members, shoehorn 2 more and you're good.

Since the source material that inspired the move (Dark Knight Returns) is solid I would just make it closer to it. The main difference here really is that Superman is still green but in DKR he's been around a long while.

So I would have Superman reconsidering his decision not to play nice with the US Gov't from the end of Man of Steel, and set the backdrop of the movie in a Presidential election, with an older Lex running. The plot would be driven by the political machinations of the two guys running and eventually Batman/Superman come to a head. At end Superman comes to understand Batman's vigilantism, decides not to be a tool for the Gov't (but realizes the potential of not working alone) and this sets up for the Justice League.

I would save Doomsday for the first Justice League movie.

Among today’s outstanding American filmmakers, Snyder has an eccentric interest in the spiritual expression of his characters’ conflicts. From the erotic antiquity saga 300 to the anthropomorphic fable Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole, Snyder demonstrates a caricaturist’s knack for elaborating Good vs. Evil. It takes just such dreamlike moral clarity to reprove the Nolan trilogy’s chaos. Look at Snyder’s second high point: Batman’s nightmare of battling Superman plus his own enigmatic demons imagined as Stymphalian wasps. The scene spins agonizingly slowly (though not in slow motion), becoming ever more hallucinatory. It fuses comic-book imagery to the oldest Western myths. SLIDESHOW: Batman v Superman In this age of petty Marvels, most comic-book movies merely perpetrate fantasies of power, but Snyder, enacting his personal aesthetic, braves a film that examines those fantasies. He boldly challenges popular culture’s current decay. Man of Steel was a magnificent, hugely satisfying response to what’s often missing in pop culture, and Batman v Superman raises more ideas without (yet) resolving them. An attempt to invoke other superheroes from the DC Comics stable, starting with Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot, accompanied by tribal drums that recall Snyder’s overawed feminist fantasia, Sucker Punch), ultimately goes unfulfilled. And Snyder, obliged to placate the Marvel hordes, lets a couple of fight scenes devolve into Avengers-trite turmoil. Still, the equation of moral myth and contemporary political catastrophe marks an important advance. Snyder intends to resolve the conflict between commerce and art, power and morality. “Knowledge with no power is paradoxical,” one character says. “Man made a world where standing together is impossible,” frets another. With Batman v Superman, the battle for the soul of American culture is on.