Peter was actually shown to be a genius and wasn't a total pushover like Raimi’s Peter was

>Peter was actually shown to be a genius and wasn't a total pushover like Raimi’s Peter was
>Gwen was actually a character and wasn't just some damsel in distress
>Flash was still a jock and a bully, but he also was shown to be more than just a 2 dimensional stereotype
>Uncle Ben felt like a real uncle and father figure to Peter
>The origin was fleshed out more and the film has its own take on things instead of rehashing the plot from the comics/Raimi's films
>Connors was more of a Jekyll/Hyde type character who loses control due to him wanting to get his arm back
>Film has a theme about the consequences of playing God and messing with things you shouldn't
>Literally the perfect Spidey, from his quips to his fighting style

Why does everyone hate this movie again? It's a solid 7/10 at least.

Because.

MUH

BASED

COMFY

RAIMI

Yes, I agree, well done, HOWEVER

>too dark at times
>spider-man as a night only vigilante?
>peter's parents being involved in the plot at all
>peter was too much of a Chad, there's no way Andrew Garfield would have been a loner in highschool

Peter Parker skateboarding scene for Hot Topic profits undoes anything positive Andrew Garfield ever could have done.

>no willem dafoe
dropped

How was he a Chad?

Literally the only thing wrong with him, but even then it wasn't that much of a deal.

The acting wasn't as good, nor was the origin story handled as well, and the villain was pretty snooze worthy.

The most unforgivable sin was that the webslinging wasn't exciting

>Genius
>Has to watch 8th grade science videos to understand batteries

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>peter was too much of a Chad
lol what, did you watch the movie? He was awkward as fuck

Am I the only one who enjoyed the skateboarding scene? It was pretty cool desu, you could argue pointless but the whole thing was to show him discovering his powers, and I thought skateboarding was an interesting and grounded way to show that

its not awful the raimi trilogy is just way better.

>shitty writing and acting
>unmemorable music
>shitty design all around from ASM1 suit to electro to new goblin

very unsatisfying underwhelming movie. with the right reworks it could've been way better.

>Peter was actually shown to be a genius and wasn't a total pushover like Raimi’s Peter was
No, quite the opposite. Tobey was a genius, Garfield was just an average high school kid with good grades.

Raimi
>Reads advanced Osborn papers by leading scientist Norman Osborn and gets complimented by him, a guy that rarely compliments anyone
>Reads, understand and even notices flaws in cutting edge theoretical technology from Otto.

Garfield
>Has to steal the web formula from oscorp
>Has to watch a youtube video aimed to kids to understand how electricity works
>Cant figure how a fucking magnet work (literally elementary school shit) and has to be reminded by Gwen
>Cant figure how to shut down the power plant and puts Gwen in risk by letting her help him
>It was just pressing a big fucking red button

I didnt read the rest because the first one already made me dismiss the rest of your shitpost

>Flash was blablabla
Flash was literally a 1 minute cameo in the first movie, it wasnt 2 dimensional, it was just not featured on the fucking movie. If it was, probably would be more developed.

People don't hate it. Redditors do.

Redditors like

Its flaws
>Its a reboot
>hes a hipster not a nerd
>A ""nerd"" parkours in a random empty warehouse
>he hunts for his uncles killer but stops to focus on the main villian
>In the original ramni, he found the killer and basically kills him to show peter a lesson and that killing and revenge is wrong
>When thats thrown out here
>Forced awkwardness
>Peter leaves his name on his fucking camera in the sewers
>leave it open ended for a sequel
>His mask is taken off in front of a fucking police helicopter light and squad people and yet nobody sees him
>aunt may is alot dumber and is just an old bitch
>its a sony movie


Dont get me started on the second movie

>Connors was more of a Jekyll/Hyde type character who loses control due to him wanting to get his arm back
So same as Osborn but replacing arm with company?

>Film has a theme about the consequences of playing God and messing with things you shouldn't
No, it doesnt. Or certainly not more than what Doc Ock did.

i dont like garfiel

>>Peter was actually shown to be a genius and wasn't a total pushover like Raimi’s Peter was
I'm probably gonna get a ton of shit from you "MUH COMICS" faggots but I liked that Raimi's Peter was more dweeby than the comics. It made him more of an underdog. I don't give a shit that he had organic web shooters instead of mechanical ones.
>>Gwen was actually a character and wasn't just some damsel in distress
This is your one valid point.
>>Flash was still a jock and a bully, but he also was shown to be more than just a 2 dimensional stereotype
That's because he got a lot more screentime than Raimi's Flash.
>>Uncle Ben felt like a real uncle and father figure to Peter
Fuck you, Raimi's Uncle Ben was far more likeable.
>>The origin was fleshed out more and the film has its own take on things instead of rehashing the plot from the comics/Raimi's films
Okay, now I'm convinced you're baiting. Over half of the film shamelessly rehashed the comics/Raimi films and the stuff that wasn't a rehash was shit compared to the comics/Raimi films.
>>Connors was more of a Jekyll/Hyde type character who loses control due to him wanting to get his arm back
So?
>>Film has a theme about the consequences of playing God and messing with things you shouldn't
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>Literally the perfect Spidey, from his quips to his fighting style
He acted too much like a hipster dickhead.

>Its a reboot
Not an argument.

>hes a hipster not a nerd
Explain how he's a "hipster"

>A ""nerd"" parkours in a random empty warehouse
And? He just got his powers and was testing them out.

>he hunts for his uncles killer but stops to focus on the main villian
Because he realizes that petty revenge isn't worth it, he needs to focus on the bigger picture like stopping the Lizard from infecting all of NY.

>In the original ramni, he found the killer and basically kills him to show peter a lesson and that killing and revenge is wrong
And this film doesn't have the same theme of doing the right thing and taking responsibility for your actions?

>When thats thrown out here
What?

>Forced awkwardness
Yeah, it's about teenagers.

>Peter leaves his name on his fucking camera in the sewers
And?

>leave it open ended for a sequel
Okay?

>His mask is taken off in front of a fucking police helicopter light and squad people and yet nobody sees him

>aunt may is alot dumber and is just an old bitch
How is she "dumber"?

>its a sony movie
So were Raimi’s.

>Dont get me started on the second movie
We're not talking about it.

my ex-fiance (gf at the time) met me at a restaurant before the movie and by the time we walked to the theater she had drank to much. She left in the middle to puke in the bathroom. She was sick all night and it wasn't the first time this had happened. Looking back, it was just another step in the downward spiral. I was a fool back then many years ago. I tried to enjoy the film and I liked many parts. But every time I think about it it makes me remember this blow from my young and stupid years.

6/10, the connors stuff was so dumbed down it hurt.

>Raimi's Uncle Ben was far more likeable
This, and he wasn't played by fucking Martin Sheen.

The fight in the sewers where he's trying to snap a picture of Lizard is pure kino

Are you seriously defending this forgetabble piece of shit?

This will be less remembered than the japenese spiderman show in less than 5 years

TASM is literally r3ddit bait.
Peter is too hip and cool.
There is no artistic vision.
There is barely any thematic connection between the first, the second movie and whatever the second movie was setting up as sequels.

Assuming it was a trilogy, we ve seen 2/3 of it and literally nothing happened other than Gwen dying. One whole movie was wasted on the origin

Second movie was wasted on setting up a shit ton of crap for next movies then Osborn is dead, lil Osborn gets transformed and dies in 5 minutes, Dubslektro is completely irrelevant to everything, Peter is not really closer to solve the murder of his parents, the identity of the real mastermind was never shown or implied, would had to be a character not yet introduced in the first 2 movies. It has no sense of proper story or proper development.

Hell, Harry appears from thin air and disappears in the same way, you would have guessed Peter would have mentioned he was friend with the richest guy in the city. Or asked help intermediately when he found about the murder of his parents. Or at least try to contact him. But he doesnt. You can clearly see Harry inclusion is rushed and makes no sense.

Even if SM3 was shit at least it finished the tangible, developed journey of Harry and Peter. We've seen them as close friends, then Harry growing up resentful for his father liking more Peter, MK liking more Peter, then his hate for Spider-man, then his hate for both Peter and SM.

Then again, I repeat, SM3 was shitty, but at least it followed a coherent journey for the characters.

TASM is literally a family guy episode that goes to 1000 different places just to get nowhere.

Then kindly explain to me how I'm wrong.

It was the fake Hollywood "look at how quirky I am xD". Awkward people do not act like him.

>that """""banter""""" between peter and harry
>electro's motivation
>rhino being a chinese cartoon wannabe
>can't even say "with great power comes great responsibility" properly because it's been done to death
>peter being a skateboarding hipster fuccboi

uncle ben and aunt may were very good tho

How to spot a casual Spider-Man fan: they say TASM had the best on-screen Spidey we've seen.

No, the Spidey in those movies is based on the comic personality long after the Raimi films started. The Spidey in those films is similar to the shitty newer MTV cel-shaded Spider-Man, and the Way-influenced Spidey everyone hates.

Read ANY 1960s-2000s Spider-Man comic and then tell me he's "the most accurate" one.

>>peter being a skateboarding hipster fuccboi
This was is a con you millennial fucktard.

MAN OF SPIDERS?

RENT was in Transformers 3 BTW

>Hey Parker! You better not forget my homework tomorrow. You wouldn't want the basketball team to take turns railing that sweet boipuccy of yours again, would you? Oh who am I kidding, of course you would.

Toby did wisecrack when it was appropriate to in the Raimi movies. The bank heist in 2 was a fun relatively harmless scenario, he did wisecrack in that one. But most of the fight scenes he was in were serious situations. At the end of 1 he and Goblin are literally trying to fucking murder each other, Peter's face is a bloody pulp at that point after getting thrown through glass windows and brick walls. In 2 when he's trying to save the life of Aunt May or when Octopus is holding Mary Jane hostage, or how about when he's trying to murder Sandman in the subway because he killed his uncle? Why the fuck would he wisecrack in any of these situations? Just like Garfield in Amazing Spider-Man, he never wisecracked when saving the city from the Lizard's magical gas or when Harry was trying to kill Gwen.

So basically, Garfield's Spider-Man is less exicting, the situations he's in often have no weight or consequence to them, hence the wisecracking, while Raimi's Spider-Man is often in serious exciting situations.

When Raimi came out with his movies it felt like everybody wanted to be Spiderman, when ASM came out it felt like it wanted to be everyone else. The new Spiderman wants to be Marvel.

He beat Up flash

He got his ass kicked by him in the beginning. Only after getting his powers did he humiliate Flash at basketball, and after Ben died he didn't really "beat him up" as much as he did physically threaten him (Even though Flash was just trying to be nice). Even then, he never became popular as a result, so I don't understand where this "he's a Chad" rhetoric came from.

Its a reboot to simply made to make money and franchise it was made for nothing more

If peters a genius he wouldnt leave his fucking name on his camera especially when he has a hidden identity and leaves it near bad guys

Hes not a nerd, putting glasses on a hot guy is not a nerd, he actually looks built when peter parker is an anti social kid, not fucking built, who carries his books everywhere in his hands and doesnt have a skateboard and does that all day

nobody bullies someone after their uncles dies

The football team is suddenly ok with him throwing a football and breaking the goal

An entire swat team saw him without his mask under a fucking helicopter light, do not say that nobody saw him that would be bullshit

Aunt may is one dimensional when shes the parent figure to peters story

Ramni's film fleshes him out alot more

Because these movies couldn't have fun. The raimi movies were a little more over the top and cheesy but it was a comic book movie. TASM was just plain and boring.

Peter in the reboot wasn't a genius. He just stole everything from Oscorp to use and also in the second movie Gwen told him how to make something, I forgot what it was though. He didn't even think of it until she told him about it. He was a piece of shit.

>tfw no Dylan Baker
Lizard or Bruce Campbell Mysterio

>Its a reboot to simply made to make money and franchise it was made for nothing more
You can say that about literally anything.

>If peters a genius he wouldnt leave his fucking name on his camera especially when he has a hidden identity and leaves it near bad guys
He's just starting as a superhero. He's also been shown to be pretty arrogant and (after his powers) extremely cocky.

>Hes not a nerd, putting glasses on a hot guy is not a nerd, he actually looks built when peter parker is an anti social kid, not fucking built, who carries his books everywhere in his hands and doesnt have a skateboard and does that all day
Pick up a Spider-Man comic and read it. Peter was never as much of a fucking whiny crybaby as Tobey's Peter was. It's an adaptation of Spider-Man, not a remake of the Raimi films. It's allowed to do its own thing.

>nobody bullies someone after their uncles dies
Okay? Flash didn't bully him after that. No one bullied Peter, they were all shown to be sympathetic or they just got out of his way.

>The football team is suddenly ok with him throwing a football and breaking the goal
That was humor. And they're never shown to be "okay" with it.

>An entire swat team saw him without his mask under a fucking helicopter light, do not say that nobody saw him that would be bullshit
He was unmasked for a split second, and then immediately he took them down while keeping his head down. It would have been hard to see his face in all the commotion, and even harder to recognize him.

>Aunt may is one dimensional when shes the parent figure to peters story
And she's an actual parent, scolding Peter for staying out and worrying for him when he comes back all beat up.

>Ramni's film fleshes him out alot more
And this film doesn't?

>tfw I fucked up that greentext.

>Pick up a Spider-Man comic and read it.
Every fucking time. All of you ASM dickriders always resort to "muh comics". The funniest part is various aspects of ASM shit all over the comics but you resort to "muh comics" anyway because Andrew's Peter is slightly more accurate than Tobey's Peter.

The argument was about Peter, not every fucking thing. Of course an adaptation will change some things, but getting the characters right is probably the most important. Raimi's Spider-Man films are great films, but terrible adaptations of Spider-Man.

>>Its a reboot to simply made to make money and franchise it was made for nothing more
>You can say that about literally anything.

Like...Godfather Part 1? Citizen Kane? When Harry Met Sally? The Seventh Seal?

There are millions of movies that aren't made to launch franchises, made blockbuster money, or are reboots.

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Every film released on the big screen was created to make money. Most forms of entertainment are.

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Nice argument. Looks like I won.

Please respond to my post

>total pushover like Raimi’s Peter was
He's supposed to be. Peter is a beta faggot ready to cause a /r9k/ uprsing
>le damsel in distress trope is bad may may
>I agree on Flash but he was a waste a character seeing that he wasn't in the sequel
>Uh Peter...uh...responsibilities...uh...vs Based Rami's Uncle Ben
>origin was shit. The parent arc should have been finished in the first film
>No one likes the Lizard
..>Film has a theme about the consequences of playing God and messing with things you shouldn't
Snyder Please

Jesus christ, came here to dismantle OP, but he already got fucking torn apart by this post.

Also notice my new IP before samefag accusations.

There. Also, like said, awkward people do not act this "quirky yet loveable" persona like Garfield had, and has shown up way too much in media in the past decade (especially those attempting to pander to "nerds" or grabs the "faux-nerd"/tumblr crowd).

The reboot was basically to retain the Spider-Man rights before they defaulted back to Disney, iirc.

That's why they churned out that horrible sequel as well, at an attempt also to build their own cinematic universe + cash in more.