Hey Sup Forums, try to present a reasoned argument against a United Europe that doesn't involve da jooz

hey Sup Forums, try to present a reasoned argument against a United Europe that doesn't involve da jooz

>pro tip, you fucking can't

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Europe is divided into three parts

One is the latin part

Second is the northern part

Third is the orthodox/byzantine/ruthenian part

Those parts in a closer union will simply not work, because they have different views on how to run a state, that's all

Europe should work as a confederacy, not federation

>be potato nigger
>can't get along with the cucks that have lived one island over for hundreds and hundreds of years
>can't even agree with people of own ethnicity that have lived on the same island for hundreds and hundreds of years.
>somehow going to cooperate with hundreds and hundreds of millions of people
Smaller political units make everybody happier.

>he took my image and changed the colours

The only reason we would ever create a united Europe is if Europe somehow fell, which is not something to strive towards. Also we would be ruled by Jewish despots

I have nothing against united europe as long as it is as the map says, blue and green are united europe, gray isnt.

watching

confederacy is cool with me, not making an argument for federalism

>be mongrel yankie doodle
>watched a documentary about the IRA once
nice try m8

Well that just makes the jews looks even worse OP.

>the orthodox/byzantine/ruthenian part
What countries exactly do you mean?

swedes
and now the fact today that the whole continent is filled with shitskins and niggers

so no thanks...
>soon euro faggots
>we will be back again

Swedes and Germans cucking themselves has very little to do with the EU, Merkel was the one to break Dublin III protocol *against* letting them venture in so deep.

I can't download it with vlc. Do you have another link?

Try this one
vimeo.com/166389884

>Orthodox/Byzantine
>What countries do you mean ?

He obviously meant Poland as a part of it as well, all ex ussr amf yugo countries and warsaw pact.
You know you Poles really have issues, you see soviet union in everything and are deathly afraid.

In4 you are we wuz wenda shitposter

Germany and Sweden are few of the countries that pay MUCH more into EU than they extract. If it wasn't for us the rest of EU would most likely crumble as it is now.

The USSR, Yugoslavia, and Czechoslovakia involved groups all much more closely related in terms of wealth and culture than Swedes and Bulgars. Despite that all of those countries collapsed.

Nevermind missread

All previous attempts ended in failure.

Sweden pays less into the EU then hungry you retard. No cares about your BBC loving shit hole.

Concept is fine, current execution is beyond fucked.

Yugoslavia collapsed because you were dicking around

Perfect map.

I assume you mean Hungary or are you just hungry?
telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12176663/EU-Facts-how-much-does-Britain-pay-to-the-EU-budget.html

The EU exists to neuter European civilizations, not make them stronger

In my opinion, a confederation of european identitary movements is more necesary and posible than ever.

Only with such an Alliance, glued by our racial and cultural similarities, we can subvert the cultural marxist wave.

That doesnt imply a renounce to our identities or our differences, just to work together being concious of our similarities.

This is not even a personal preference, I see no other way. Alone, we dont have enought strenght to go against them. Even if a nationalistic movement had the control of a country, they would still not have enought strength...

Czechoslovakia is hardly in the same boat, but I'll grant you the other two. Austria-Hungary is another failed example. But they all failed because of a large member seceding from the union, causing the remaining rump state to collapse due to fears of being dominated by the ethnic majority. The EU has plenty of counterbalance against Germany at the moment, so I see little risk even if Brexit happens.

So far this seems to just be preaching total ignorance of EU law and power structures. It's a bit odd to literally be using obscurantism while simultaneously accusing Brussels of it.

Current situation where few unelected retards ignore democracy, destroy freedom of speech and expression, steal insane amount of taxes meant to improve lives of European lives, importing insane amount of terrorists from completely inferior and incompatible culture against will of people, trying to turn us into US colony through TTIP and much much more.

Current execution is a result of a couple dozen nations repeatedly getting cold feet over several decades. A United Europe is the answer to the EU28 clusterfuck.

no hard feelings about kosovo xoxo

You do know only one of the four governing arms of the EU is undemocratic, right? The Commission is appointed by the heads of state, and it's only one half of the executive. The other half of the executive and the entirety of the legislative consists of directly appointed representatives. Checks and balances, friend.

EU is created at the cost of nationality (not necessarily nationalism tho), which is the strength of Europe.

To elaborate, national competition has been one of the most important devices in driving European people to outclass every other culture on the globe.

Why would you put Galicia and Portugal together? We barely have anything in common beside the language, portuguese are not even iberian anymore. They are like a mix of gypsies and moors.

youtube.com/watch?v=tn5C4jw0-uM

Not my pic. Just used it to demonstrate the real "diversity" of Europe.

"In Varietate Unitas". The EU actually goes to great lengths to facilitate the preservation of national and subnational culture.

Personally I wouldn't associate the growing European identity with global multiculturalism, even though the EU's freedom of movement facilitates both.

The EU was originally invented to prevent inter-European Warfare. By expanding it's scope and power, it makes the European Union unstable breaking down the original purpose of the European Union. Thus, we will see both ethnic conflict within states and warfare between states, all because the EU cannot stop trying to do too much.

Nations work better if they're as small as possible to allow for more social cohesion, more consensus on political ideology, and to make the leaders closer to the people.

If all of Europe was city-states, you would also be able to easily move to a city-state that aligned with your political ideology. If you lived in Paris and the leftists took over, you could easily band together with some rightists and have a cohesive, far-right city state somewhere else.

Now that I realize it, the EU is just the HRE, and the HRE broke down because the Emperor kept fucking meddling when he needed to sit down.

>hey Sup Forums, try to present a reasoned argument against a United Europe that doesn't involve da jooz

i fucking hate every single one of our neighbours

Exactly

here is a picture of the perfect EU. Long live the European Union.

>hey Sup Forums, try to present a reasoned argument against a United Europe that doesn't involve da jooz

how about: In Denmark Danes decide the laws, moral and how anything is done. Not some fucking foreigners and euroshits.

Uhh, the HRE broke apart because Napoleon dissolved it with a big fucking army.

it gets better buddy

w-when

Sadly, it pushes a federal agenda too much and economically is an absolute travesty.

The HRE failed to do much of anything after the horrific Thirty Years war. And even then, the EU will be lucky to live to 2030.

>The EU was originally invented to prevent inter-European Warfare.
A silly excuse of an idea. Nukes fare much better at creating peace than naive dreams of unity.

>crimea
>baltic nuke depot
I think we have enough russians already thx. But hey, if you Danes wanna become second class EEA citizens for literally no reason then go right ahead!

never.

>mfw when newly translated sagas from around 900 are filled with Swede hate and Swede jokes.

The hate will never go away and neither should it. Its a part of your culture and history. It defines who you are.

>So far this seems to just be preaching total ignorance of EU law and power structures.

Specific criticisms please. Looks accurate to me. Some of the stuff about trade was obfuscation but the actual description of the EU machinery is very accurate. It's an anti-democratic crony-capitalist behemoth.

yes please.

You have no idea how much Danes hate what the EU is becoming. Rather live in squalor than being an European citizen.

-Finland united with Europe can't stand against a russian attack
-Independent Finland capable of holding its ground won't be attacked by russians
-Sweden/Norway/Iceland are a liability, not an asset, to central europe, because they can not feasibly defend theirselves due to lack of proper army
-East bloc countries are more likely to join russia than EU in an armed conflict, because one side has a functioning army and one doesn't
-anyone east of germany hates communists, ie. anyone german or west of germany

you dont border fucking T*rkey tho, do you

you dont border fucking backstabbign serbs

you dont border clay-stealing romanians

you dont border Fyrom, a fucking Bulgarian non-country clay who got brainwashed in thinking they are ancient anunnaki

being a Bulgarian is suffering

I don't feel any European solidarity, especially with all those Eastern Euros who'd steal my car and job in a minute. If it was just Western Europe I'd be in favour of it.

you forgot about the greek jews

>be italian
>blame eastern euros for lack of solidarity

Small nations actually have pretty bad governance. They're okay for wealth accrual, but that's because they're usually able to maintain some kind of competitive edge, which would be entirely absent in a balkanised world. Having a small nation means fewer social circles, leading to political cliques and inevitably corruption. It's a bit like putting a student union in charge of a country.

City-states also tend to get crushed by foreign empires.

from watching the film it seems like the EU need to make some serious changes governmentally if it wants to survive

Because one politician or policy can fuck up all of Europe.

ie. Migrant Crisis

sure aryan spanish :^)

>you dont border fucking backstabbign serbs
laffin
don't forget, you started that bloodshed

well I have Sweden to the east and Germany to the south. That means that Denmark is surrounded by the most extreme cu cks and fags this side of the world has to offer.

Sure Roachstan is far worse and Romashits are a living nightmare of subhuman garbage.
I feel your pain and you have my sympathies.

funny how that is completely different here.

Western Euroshit countries like Spain are more alien to us than nice countries like Estonia and such.

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Nukes only deter continental level warfare. Not on a national scale.

Keep stockpiling those semi auto weapons and rakia for when the expanding begins.

>you started that bloodshed

I believe it was your "mad" king.

I have nothing in common with someone from Ireland or Germany.
Why exactly should we live in a same state?

>don't forget, you started that bloodshed

when?

germans and sweden were never like this tho, thats a recent happening

National sovereignty. People in the Netherlands probably don't much like it when people in Belarus make decisions for them.

To put it as an early 19th century magazine put it, the government closest to the people governs best.

I got trips, kiss my fucking ring and kneel

im going to call you on your bullshit.

Pic:
Higher is better.

See how corrupt those small nation states are? Fucking potato nigger I live in the least corrupt nation in the western world and incidentally also one of the smallest.

Different languages, different cultures, and a history of killing the fuck out of each other

How does one measure corruption?

Indirect democracy with no option to fire representatives who don't keep their election promises is no democracy. Most people of my country want out of EU, yet we are denied referendum because outcome would be 'problematic'.

There is nothing wrong with a United Europe, the problem is that it is a Trotsky Authoritarian regime when it should be a more like a bigger version of the Swiss Confederation

You also have some clay belonging to the our rightous republic.

It'd mean being united with South Europeans. Who in their right mind would want that?

lets face it, eastern europe is shit
slavs are white niggers

I'll trade you for memes, if they're good enough.

said austria, germany retarded cousin

Oh shit I'm a whitenigger, what do I do now, steal a bike?
That's what niggers do right?

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if you really want to know go check the EU commission work.

its a mix between polls, data collection, convictions and on going cases of fraud and corruption.

>I'll trade you for memes

Bulgaria has the best memes in the world, you gotta step it up

>slavs are white niggers

t. actual nigger

Heres a semi decent pepe for Pcinja, Jablanica and Pirot.

ill take those slav "niggers" over you southerners any day of the week.

t. snow nigger

>implying Finland can hold off nukes with a couple snow snipers
>implying the EU is meant to have an army
>implying papa murrica would allow the kremlin to get away with aggression towards the west
>implying the eastern bloc haven't done everything in their collective power to get the fuck away from russia for the past 20 years

lol go live in the gaeltacht if you don't like poles, some pure blooded native from tallaght is 102% more likely to steal your car than poor kamil

give more

best one

Said the country that's only known for creating a shithole like Brazil. Anyway, how are your roads doing that you built with our money? :^)

Because I don't want my infinitely superior country to get hitched with slavic dindus and lazy southern cunts. No more handouts 4 u.

eh

Fins are not europeans, you are basically slavs so pipe down

Is Bulgaria a country? Have to keep up with the new geography of eastern europe shit countries

i don't want to go to your shit mermaid worshiping country anyway
>implying anyone does
nice meme

fuck off globalist scum, Ireland should leave the EU

not bad

Denmark knows what's up.

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The people of Europe are largely ignorant of their collective history which would be the cultural center of this proposed nation. Too much faith is put into the somewhat fabricated and historical revisionist identities of the nation states(Britain, France, Germany,etc.) that were developed in the Colonial and Napoleonic eras. In order to make this work, you would first need to bring back in force the forgotten collective identity of Christendom, which united the people in the past.

Moortugalians are not europeans

Tell that to Ukraine.

Oh shit, da jooz actually do throw a huge wrench into that whole plan after all, don't they?

that's the look