Is Marijuana degenerate? Should it be banned?

Is Marijuana degenerate? Should it be banned?

I can't really make my mind up. On the one hand it's degenerate and stoners are millennial fags but on the otherhand banning people smoking a plant seems kind of wrong.

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>stoners are millennial fags

You realize people have been smoking weed since before the 90s right? Weed wasn't invented in 2011 with smart phones.

That's not what i heard from Sup Forums.

Who should I believe? People on the internet or real life?

Weed makes you cool and should be legal in all 420 countries

The degenerates are right. It should be legal.

it is literally degenerate as it lowers your sperm count

Yeah but you can make up for it by the 4 consecutive cumshots you get from weed boners. Weed does wonders for the boner.

I really need to save my canned response to this in a txt file to just paste in here every time some fisherman casts his line.

Modern sedentary life lowers your sperm count more than anything.

>it is literally degenerate as it lowers your sperm count

Masturbating to trump on Sup Forums lowers your sperm count too

Should be legal.

This. It's like prostitution. As much as you may not agree with it, criminalizing it only causes harm (unless you include stds)

Right? I get high and jerk it to incest like every night

It should be banned because retards will inevitably drive while high, and I don't want my mother to die because John the 18-year-old Stoner decided to drive to community college after smoking 20 joints.

>It should be banned because retards will inevitably drive while high, and I don't want my mother to die because John the 18-year-old Stoner decided to drive to community college after smoking 20 joints

Can't that happen with alcohol though?

Should be legal. Government grown /supervised. And taxed

>it would cripple the gangs income
>would create jobs
>would take a huge hit at the tobacco industry
>more tax money that you only pay if you want a product

It's bad for children, especially teenagers with developing brains. It isn't benign. It is habituating if not addictive. Of course it's a gateway drug, it trains children how to score drugs. It inculcates them into drug culture.

Marijuana also contributes to the exacerbation of mental illness in developing brains.

>going all the way to your car while high when you can just stay here on the couch and eat icecream with my ffriends
>driving fast. No thanks sounds stressful man

>It should be banned because retards will inevitably drive while high
It's already banned, and it already happens

>It's bad for children, especially teenagers with developing brains. It isn't benign. It is habituating if not addictive. Of course it's a gateway drug, it trains children how to score drugs. It inculcates them into drug culture.
>Marijuana also contributes to the exacerbation of mental illness in developing brains.

Why is this not an issue with alcohol?

If we make Marijuana legal only for people over 18 or something is that ok?

No one ITT is arguing for weed for children / teenagers.

And all those other problems essentially stem from it being criminalized

If one can not do with his own body as he pleases, what freedom does he really have?

I dont believe in telling people what they can and cant do to themselves if its no direct effect on others. Smoke fucking cat shit if you want, who am I to say otherwise?

But any form of softening the laws against marijuana would, inevitably, make marijuana more widely available to minors. Just like alcohol and tobacco.

>>would take a huge hit at the tobacco industry

You think people will stop using tobacco products strictly because marijuana is legal?

I've got a bridge to sell you.

fucking degenerate

>But any form of softening the laws against marijuana would, inevitably, make marijuana more widely available to minors. Just like alcohol and tobacco.

But Marijuana is already extremely popular among teens, if this issue isn't occuring with alcohol why would it happen with marijuana?

>fucking degenerate

You are also one.

Nigger lover. Ain't nothing wrong with incest

Every fucking day.

No desu

I've fully given up opiates for organic medical marijuana. Not only is it a pain killer it's also an anti-inflammatory
Which i use to deal with this
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankylosing_spondylitis

Even traditional anti-inflammatories have fucked with my eye sight; so i quit them also.
But THC and CBD (good weed and/or concentrates and edibles) yoga, diet control and going to the gym have helped me more than taking every pill doctors threw at me ever has

>Tldr; organic weed, good diet and gym=good
>taking every pill Dr's through at you and self loathing=bad

marijuana helped me through rough times in my life. but i never saw myself continuing using it. as much as it helped, it just made lazy and uninterested in normal activity.

It's no more degenerate than alcohol or tobacco. Should be legal.

No. No it would not. Exactly the oposite actually.

It would enable regulation and government operated dispenseres where people can work and earn an honest living so it won't be jamaal or achmed on the street corner peddling it kids.

And if your talking like a dad has some weed that he bought legally but his stupid son tries some. What's the difference to raiding the liquor cabinet?

Alcohol should be banned for the same reason.
And cell phones.

and anime imageboards

and videogames

Those are all good points for legalization.

Is it degenerate? Not really. It opens the mind and allows you to see beyond the normal day-to-day false reality we've been taught since we were kids. It's essentially LSD-lite for people who are too afraid to really dissolve their internal boundaries. Some people abuse it and become lazy jobless stoners but you can't really judge its worthiness based on the actions of a few.

Should it be banned? No. It's a fucking plant. How the hell are you supposed to justify banning a plant.

He'll why don't we just ban driving? Would get rid of the problem all together! And if there are no cars on the streets kids/teenagers won't be tempted to try them when they get older

Older teens and young adults who can buy alcohol and tobacco may often make straw purchases on behalf of their younger friends. Young people, who might be allowed to purchase marijuana legally, would then make illegal purchases for younger people. Ever heard of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor?"

Why don't we just ask our government what we should be allowed to do based on government studies for maximum productivity?

I don't want to be a degenerate any longer!

All drugs come from plants on way or another...

>Should it be banned?
No. Banning marijuana is the kind of nannystate statism that allows the government to push through bullshit like tranny bathrooms because people are just that used to having the state think for them.
>On the one hand it's degenerate and stoners are millennial fags but on the otherhand banning people smoking a plant seems kind of wrong.
You already answered your question.

It should be legal, you not liking people who smoke has no impact on what's proper.

Do you think that by legalizing marijuana, alcohol and cell phones will magically disappear from the Earth?

What exactly is stopping people from doing all three while driving?

You may say "people already do drive while high," but you should realize that if you legalize marijuana, it will become permanently ingrained in our childrens' minds that it's "okay" to smoke weed. If you legalize it, more people will smoke. People will still drink alcohol and text while driving at the SAME TIME.

THEY'RE NOT FUCKING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE HOLY SHIT

not jenkem

>Older teens and young adults who can buy alcohol and tobacco may often make straw purchases on behalf of their younger friends. Young people, who might be allowed to purchase marijuana legally, would then make illegal purchases for younger people. Ever heard of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor?"

And how exactly is that different right now?

Only difference is that the multiple drug dealers selling marijuana in every highschool don't ask for IDs or verify you're old enough or legally prescribed it to smoke.

So in actuality it is easier to obtain the illegal marijuana than the legal alcohol. Very poor argument.

Good plan! The government surely has the best platform for making personal decisions for me and what I do at all times

>Of course it's a gateway drug, it trains children how to score drugs. It inculcates them into drug culture.
Which is why it needs to be legal.
Thanks for proving everyone's point.

If anything that shouldn't be illegal, its my shit, I should have a say in what I do with it.

>What exactly is stopping people from doing all three while driving?
No one has made a law against it yet, obviously.

I must contend that it would be easier to buy marijuana from gas stations than from seedy trailer parks. I have a hard time understanding why softening marijuana laws wouldn't make something that is already easy while illegal even easier when legal.

> Of course it's a gateway drug, it trains children how to score drugs. It inculcates them into drug culture.

Actually the only "gateway" drug according to every study on the subject is alcohol. If you hang around "stoners" long enough you'll notice a good bit of them don't even drink, they smoke weed and that's it. That's how I am.

The ONLY valid way weed is a gateway drug is that it makes you realize your government is lying to you and that might open your mind to trying other substances to see what else you're not being told the truth about. I blame the government lying for that.

I don't get why this attitude is so hard for people to emulate? Why does everyone have to try and control everyone else? I'm sick of this shit. My body, my rules remember? I don't tell them not cover their dumbasses in tattoos and drink themselves into an early grave, stop telling me to stop smoking a bowl, reading a book and then having a pleasant six hours of comfortable sleep.

>if you legalize marijuana, it will become permanently ingrained in our childrens' minds that it's "okay" to smoke weed.


If we legalize assault weapons it will be permanently ingrained in our children's minds that it's "okay" to shoot up schools.

This is your entire argument.

Thanks for going full FEELS.

>I have a hard time understanding why softening marijuana laws wouldn't make something that is already easy while illegal even easier when legal

It would only make logical sense.

Marijuana is not remarkably harmful unless you consume it in large quantities as a teenager - something most teenagers cannot afford. But for adults it is still illegal.

and yet alcohol which is far worse, results in countless deaths and costs to society annually remains legal. I just don't get it.

How can you call yourself a free country if you don't allow people to smoke a plant?

Furthermore how do you justify the immense spending of people's tax dollars on fighting a war against an INANIMATE OBJECT? -- A losing war mind you.

>That it's "okay" to smoke weed
What's wrong with that?

Plus alcohol, cigarettes, prescription drugs are all legal and kids don't think it's OK for them to use any of those.

Mushrooms are fungus

Its not harmful so no its should not be illegal.

It doesnt cure cancer or all this other magical bull shit but it is not harmful.

Also the tax money could help support all the niggers we love supporting so much.

>THINK OF DA CHILDREN

i thought Sup Forums liked Freedom and Liberty and that reefer madness ended decades ago?

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

For
>reasonable implementation plans
>facts
>pro freedom
Against
>muh feelies
>muh children
>muh b-but something bad could potentially maeby happen
>anti freedom

...The only purpose of MJ is to smoke it... true.

...The only purpose of "assault weapons" is to shoot up schools...false.

>...The only purpose of "assault weapons" is to shoot up schools...false.

What can firearms be used for other than killing people?

Just to be clear: you're shifting points. I'm still stuck on the subject of severely restricting access to marijuana from minors and other young people.

I will, however, assert that marijuana is harmful for adults as well. I'm not inclined to believe that marijuana should be legalized because society and law tolerate other harmful substances like alcohol.

Hunting? Not getting mauled by a bear when camping? Removing varmints who are ruining your crops / killing your chickens or cats?

>Should it be banned?

Just as soon as alcohol

These.
Plus a lot of prescription drugs get pushed on kids by their parents.

People who constantly pump their kids full of antibiotics (usually for shit like viral infections that don't respond to it anyway) or stimulants (usually for DARING to be anything but a soulless drone in school or DARING to behave like a male) shoot be thrown in the ocean.

>A losing war mind you.
Not only logistically but also ideologically, mind you. Even fucking TEXAS has I think two bills to legalize in the works right now.

Legalize it and let degenerate junkies with their nigger culture stay indoors blazing it, who choose to do so. :^)

>...The only purpose of MJ is to smoke it... true.
you mean false
>what is an edible
eating it has never been the issue, it's SMOKING thats bad, eating it has little side effect, under controlled dosage

>Hunting? Not getting mauled by a bear when camping? Removing varmints who are ruining your crops / killing your chickens or cats?

Pretty small usage of firearms tho, other than hunting isn't there better choices?

A bb gun and pepperspray i think would be more humane without aiding mass shootings happening monthly

>Should it be banned?
>On the one hand it's degenerate

>calling a plant degenerate

Everything in moderation.

But it's perfectly fine to have alcohol ads all over the place?

People shake their heads when they hear a drunk driving accident.

People protest when someone is high and gets in an accident.

>Not only logistically but also ideologically, mind you. Even fucking TEXAS has I think two bills to legalize in the works right now.

I don't even know how people on Sup Forums can unironically support the war on drugs.

You guys are suppose to be "redpilled" and actually somewhat knowledgeable in politics. Shit like "What if kids smoke it and then become heroin addicts and kill themselves" seems more fit on facebook pages for middleaged moms.

and then there will be a surge in stabbings

wait let me guess
>bin that KNIFE

So take gay porn slow so you don't get the gay?

>A bb gun and pepperspray
you think a fucking bb gun is going to protect you from some heavy coated man running at you?
>aim at the face
good luck aiming with the adrenaline rushing through your veins, hope you remembered to cock it since you cant have one chambered

>Is it degenerate

Yes it causes people to spend time doing nothing but getting high and getting stuff and people waste a ton of time and energy on it

>Should it be banned

No, if you think it should be banned you're letting your emotions drive your decision making instead of your brain, prohibition is not worth maintaining given pots current levels of usage and the fact that pot use isn't actually THAT risky. Allowing legalization is not majority opinion on the left and right, especially among youth, it's not partisan to be pro-legalization these days, just common sense.

>A bb gun and pepperspray i think would be more humane
For hunting? Haha m8 you gotta get out of the city more

Fucking foxes will eat your cat. Your dog can get jumped by coyotes or wolves. Fucking eagles and falcons will take away your bunnies and cats and small dogs.

Not to mention, if you're in a place where it takes 10+ minutes for police to arrive, you're going to want something more than fucking a .22 pellet airgun and some weak ass pepper spray if some nutter starts pounding on your door or godforbid breaks in and gets one of your kitchen knives.

Go try and live / work on a farm, you'll get a better understanding of why they are a necessary item in the humans tool box of useful things.

>and then there will be a surge in stabbings
>wait let me guess
>>bin that KNIFE

Can you explain to me why countries like the UK, Australia or Canada have little to no mass shootings and yet the US seems to have one every month?

In fact the US has more mass shootings yearly than multiple countries can remember in a decade.

>Go try and live / work on a farm, you'll get a better understanding of why they are a necessary item in the humans tool box of useful things.

Why would I work on a farm?

My IQ is above 90.

>I don't even know how people on Sup Forums can unironically support the war on drugs.
Because their 'redpill' is a mix of truth that got forgotten and old lies.

Sup Forums just automatically thinks that anything old is good while forgetting that prohibition of marijuana is an EXTREMELY new concept.

>Is Marijuana degenerate?
Yes
>Should it be banned?
No

>Justifuh muh plaunt bans

Well, cyanide comes from plants, and it's illegal to feed people cyanide.

Also medical marijuana is real but only if you narrowly apply it to specific uses like THC helping with appetite particularly with aids/chemo patients, CBD helping with seizures, and stuff like that. I don't really understand why people are against medical pot when pretty much everybody that was a decent person would look the other way if a friend with cancer decided to get a little high so he could keep a meal down.

>sheltered, booger crust NEETs want to force me into jail for getting illegally high

And then you guys all grow up to be the heaviest alcoholics. Fuck off, you dumb faggots.

Niggers m8, they have 30 - 40million niggers

fucking china a true kek

>greentexting his entire post

Perpetual stoner here. Stoned at my job, shitposting on Sup Forums from my desk. I drive stoned everyday, and the only time I wrecked my car was when I was sober.

>Niggers m8, they have 30 - 40million niggers

Why are the niggers not committing shoot shootings? Still doesn't explain it desu.

Look at those fluffy ears! It's got to be the cutest bear ever.

Haha enjoy starving in the future.

>not owning your own acres and hobby farm for your leisure and enjoyment

City faggot pleb detected, hows Toronto treating you?

Like shit if you're against medical marijuana you're as bad as Mitt Romney in this cringeworthy video.

youtube.com/watch?v=NY6UTnS6Z-A

>it inculcates them into drug culture
>it trains children how to score drugs

11/10 b8 m8

>assaulting someone in a driveway
Man...
It does seem to be very much a thing about being frustrated for being excluded, yeah.

It should be legal so you can spot the degenerates and avoid them.

It's basically a big flashing sign saying

>don't date me
>don't employ me
>don't talk to me or my girlfriend's son ever again.

First of all, mass shootings are a hoax, and second of all, the U.K. still has gun crime and their population is only 64 million compared to our country of 300 million. Big gap. And as previously mentioned by another poster, we have a large population of niggers who shoot at each other regularly.

>chicago

checkmate nigger enabler

>City faggot pleb detected, hows Toronto treating you?

Love Toronto, it's really cozy.

>Haha enjoy starving in the future.

Why would that ever happen?

>opening your mouth while boxing
He's lucky he went down when he did.

Do people in real life tell you you're a fag? If so, believe both. If not, believe me, you're a faggot and this thread fucking sucks.

>mass shootings are a hoax

How do you figure?

Got any proof other than alex jones?