The "GOAT"

>The "GOAT"
>never won the league with Barcelona
>only won two scudettos in Italy
>never won the European Cup
>famous for winning a single 30-day tournament against the likes of Belgium and England
Explain why retards think he's better than Messi

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>never won a trophy with Spurs
>never won the World Cup with England

maradona was shit

got a replica of that spurs shirt. best kit they ever had ngl

Messhit only wins with his rich team buying refs and dope doctors, when he doesn't have them he chokes 3 finals.

Maradona wasn't even able to resist to an entire touge against Takumi

>never won the league with Barcelona
He spent two seasons there, and had injury troubles.
>only won two scudettos in Italy
With Napoli. And he was up against the GOAT AC Milan side and a great Juve side
>never won the European Cup
Back then only the champions got in, so he only had two attempts at it in his career
>famous for winning a single 30-day tournament against the likes of Belgium and England
Which was and still is the biggest competition in football :^)

To this day MISSIng fags still make me laugh when they say that missi is as good as Maradona.

Especially when they mention that missing is the best because he gets """"""""kicked""""""""" and keeps running, when Diego had people going at his knees alone at least 5 times every game.

For me, it's Scholes of Manchester

>Farcelona is anything in football

cristiano ronaldo is to batter then maradona . Hay every body why you don't accept truth ???? You always watch footballs and you also watch cristiano ronaldo and others who you like player . But truth is you never accept because you all jealous cristiano ronaldo is bigger batter who is presents greatest or past player in this world . This is truth accept that and if you don't accept that your louser . Be a brave man

Tbf two league titles with Napolel are worth more than 10 CLs with Farsa

fuck off back to Sup Forums cretin.

Pre-sacchi Milan was shit m8

Maradona had some great matches, some great runs of matches, and some brilliant moments.

However, he also had loads of shit matches. Lucky for him, this was in the 80s, and not everything was televised as it is these days. Every single match that the greats of today play is streamed on multiple channels, and still they play amazing matches 9/10 times.

You can't compare Messi to Maradona, Maradona wouldn't be allowed to tie Messi's shoes

Because he probably played some amazing football?

Sampdoria was the best team in Italy la

>PRE-PEP BARCA

not relevent at all. they werent even arsenal tier. theyve won more in the pep era onwards than literally their entire ''''history'''' combined before that

desu we tried everything, no regrets about "wasting the GOAT"

We tried making a team that works without him, and putting him on top of it, so he doesn't feel the pressure (Basile). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that plays like Barcelona so he can feel comfortable (Martino, Batista). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that is good at defending and making him the center of our attack, Maradona 1986 style (Sabella). It didn't work.

He chokes against Brazil. Okay, Brazil is a great team. He chokes against Germany. Okay, Germany is a great team. He chokes against Uruguay, okay, they are world champions.

We sacked coaches and players because he didn't like them (Riquelme, Tevez, Basile). We put in coaches and players just because he asked (Martino and his Newell's friends).

He doesn't score in KO games? Maybe he's saving up for the next game. Maybe he's saving up for the final.

Now he had this chance in silverware. He only had to perform against Chile (so you understand how small they are, 3 people died celebrating a Copa America). Many people would have hailed him as the GOAT, even though winning a Copa America of which we have 14 already doesn't mean much.

Not only he doesn't perform, that's okay, another bad day. Not only he doesn't score, it's okay, 11 KO games without scoring, but it's okay, he's still good. Not only he doesn't assist, it's okay, it's your team mates right? They are your friends Messi, you sacked Tevez, you asked for Higuain and Aguero. But okay, we get it, you didn't assist.

On top of all that, he doesn't even run. He just walks the pitch. Fuck him.

Actually it's because everything is televised people say missi is better, you can watch all his statpadding against part time farmers and everyone says he's the best, when if he had to adapt to new teams and systems like maradona he'd be a complete flop, since he was created in a lab with drugs by barcelona, and he's shown that he's the biggest systembabby of all time.

>posting from third world country
Sorry bro didn't read your post

>We tried making a team that plays like Barcelona so he can feel comfortable (Martino, Batista). It didn't work.
>We tried
>plays like Barcelona
lmao

Nice counterargument messifaggot, I bet you haven't even watched football past Barcelona bandwagoning and messi deepthroating.

he won the Serie A twice when it was unironically the best league in the world while coked out of his mind
with FUCKING NAPOLI

i loved voiello in this show

Sideways italy is right

He also won a UEFA cup/EL with Napoli (Fucking Napoli!), considering the time it wasn't that easy.

The relevant thing about winning scudettos is that he did with fucking Napoli

Quite similar to Messi, he won 4 CLs with Barcelona, a club that only had 1 title before him, literally Red Star Belgrade-tier

Ronaldo, on the other side, won a couple CLs with the 2 biggest clubs on Earth, United and Real. Literally a big team-babby

When he arrived at Napoli no team in southern Italy had won the league before afaik. His two league titles with them, one Uefa Cup back when the tournament was worth a shit, and two other trophies is an impressive haul for a relative unknown club even today.

Also he was addicted to cocaine throughout.

>not pissing on maradona as the cheating pos he is

le doped henry of the literally who cares era

>Red-Star Belgrade
Oh, right, they won one CL.
On penalties
Against Marseille...what the fuck happened that year?!

Milan refused to participate if I'm not mistaken

Serie A was more relevant than CL tho

bear in mind Maradona was playing back when you could cripple players with flying tackles and get away with it

>cheating
he used coke in parties the night before of games, that hardly makes you perform better

the entire tournament was a massive meme that year
just fucking look at the teams
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990–91_European_Cup#First_round

Bayern, Madrid and Milan were the only non-memes out of the entire field

>frog handles ball to eliminate micks is cheating
>argie handles ball to eliminate bongs is le hand of god

pls

Madrid were more of a meme than Marseille tho, their biggest star was a fucking mexican
Marseille on the other hand were a legit great team, with Deschamps, Desailly, Papin

>OB 1–10 Real Madrid

kek I don't think anyone can honestly argue that this is better than having the CL group stages.

/fa/ as fuck 2bh

didn't you see the other goal maradona scored in that game?

also, touching the ball with your hand isn't cheating, it's just breaking the rules. literally the same as being offside or commiting a foul

>isn't cheating, it's just breaking the rules

>England
>won only one wc 50 (fifty) years ago
>won it with a ghost goal
>accusing Maradona to be a cheater and a loser
>being cucked by Maradona
>being this mad

KEK

cheating is using drugs to play better or pay the refs

breaking the rules is just a part of the game

remarkable mental gymnastics

The fact that he's high on coke should automatically disqualify him from any GOAT conversation
That's just an unfair advantage, like cyclists on whatever they take

two scudetti you mean

only footy shirt i'd ever wear out tbqh

same goes for hgh tbf

Messi will go down as the greatest ever player, with Ronaldo second and Maradona third.

>heavy cocaine addiction makes you a better athlete
>mfw
Besides crippling addiction to that, he was also an alcoholic during his playing career. Does whiskey count as performance enhancer too?

>Messi has 33% of Barca's LA Liga titles, including their first in 5 years, 80% of their UEFA titles, 7/12 of their Supacopa titles and 60% of their UEFA Super cup titles
>But he's only good because of the team

>Ronaldo second

It's almost like he played during the period Barca had their best team in history, innit

If he was so good, if Serie A was so good, why did he do jack shit with the same Napoli in european cups?
Serie A, Napoli and Maradona got exposed 2bh. Don't get me wrong, I like Maradona and consider him one of the millions in football terms but he was more popular because le edgy footy lad then because great player.

Goikoetxea should have crippled him

Refer to

>Supacopa
>UEFA Super cup
Red Star Australia, what are you on?

History will always rate Messi far above Ronaldo, it happens today already, everytime a young skilled player appears hes named as the "the new Messi" or "the new Pele/Maradona" but never the new Ronaldo, because everyone knows Ronaldo is just good, not GOAT material.

What's your point la

>He spent two seasons there, and had injury troubles.
They won the title in the first season after he left. Finished 3rd and 4th with him. Really makes you think huh.

>With Napoli. And he was up against the GOAT AC Milan side and a great Juve side
With Mafia money infusion it goes easier. Milan and Juve were so good that they even let Verona win the title.

>Back then only the champions got in, so he only had two attempts at it in his career
You mean he failed to QUALIFY? :^)

>Which was and still is the biggest competition in football :^)
Yes, Gotze agrees with this.

>Pele, Cruyff, Maradona, Di Stefano, Messi
>60% of the best players of all time are argentinian
It kinda makes you think doesnt it?

why are they such chokers?

Almost like hungarians huh
>imagine having the easiest shot ever at winning a world cup with the best squad by far of the competition
>blow it away and rot the rest of history into irrelevance

Trophies don't accurately reflect individual skill you fucking mong. You sound just like Tom Brady's ballsuckers.

He is god in Napoli and Argentina.

he didn't play in the softest and most unbalanced era

He wasn't an addict until the 90's and even then coke doesn't make you better, it makes you worse you braindead moron.

Not to mention he didn't train much and was alcoholic during his entire career

>They won the title in the first season after he left. Finished 3rd and 4th with him. Really makes you think huh.

You mean when he had his leg shattered by Goikoetxea? But of course you don't know that since you started watching football in 2009. The rest of your "arguments" are just as stupid

>flag

Nevermind who cares.

ITT: Messifags coming to the realization that 2018 is approaching and that Messi won't win it.

>to be a GOAT cyclist you need to win tour de france at least once
>to be a GOAT tennis player you need to win wimbeldon at least once
>to be a GOAT swimmer, athlete, or gymnast, you need to win an olympic gold medal at least once
>to be a GOAT rugby player you need to win the rugby world cup at least once
>to be a GOAT basketball player you need to win the NBA and a world cup/olympic gold
>to be a GOAT hockey player you need to win a winter olympic medal (unless your national team is trash)
>to be a GOAT football player you only need to score a brace against every underfunded trash sunday league teams, and win a CONTINENTAL tournament every now and then

you guys realize that by every metric, that Messi can't be possibly considered better than the likes of Maldini (5 CLs) or Seedorf (4 CLs with different teams)

>Maldini

>I rate le never defend man

>he was up against the GOAT AC Milan side.
>Milan not even the best team in Italy at the time.
What did he mean by this?

Maradona was so good he made Barcelona better by leaving them :^)

>Maldini

>AC Milan wasn't GOAT
>AC Milan sucked before Sacchi came
Napoli won the Scudetto in 1989-90 you dumb fucks.

still better than Messi if you go by CL wins like a retarded toddler. GOATs win the world cup - Maradonna = GOAT, Messi = CHOKE

So which World Cup did Maldini and Seedorf win, you dumb kike?

GOATs win European Cup, Maradroga = choke :^)

>couldn't beat Spartak Moscow
>his only EC goal was against Ujpesti Dozsa

nice "GOAT" you got there, Chaim.

>Napoli won the Scudetto
that proves the point, though

Not to mention Sup Forums would be shitposting during every "big" match that season about Maradona disappearing and being bailed out by the defense

>Maldini
Beaten finalist in '94 and the same in Euro 2000. Same as Messi basically.

>Sup Forums in 80s and 90s

That would be a thing to behold. Imagine shitposting after webm related and similiar.

These old goats are way too much romanticized here by people mostly because they played in an era where football wasn't scrutinized like it is today.

>Maradona was so good he made Barcelona better by leaving them
He almost didn't play because he had a career ending injury you fucking retard.

Everyone thought he was never going to play football again.

That's why he didn't win titles with Barcelona.

But again, what else to expect from 15 year old messifags

That's exactly his point.

Maldini is not the GOAT because winning some european title doesn't make you the goat

Simple as that, and Messi can't even win Copa America.

>trophyfags

Also got beaten in air by a zipperhead in WC2002

>Simple as that, and Messi can't even win Copa America.
Neither could Maradona. Argentina won it TWICE when he wasn't present but failed TWICE when he was present. :^)

>inb4 muh particular 7 game tournament defines a career legacy

>magyar education
you are literally retarded. learn English

yeah my bad, Maradona's fault he wasn't spoonfed from the age of 12 and had an entire team built around him like a faggot system babby, and choke like a retard in every single world cup he participate in.

A team built around him. Is like he is the most important factor in this barcelona best team in history.

Maradona disagrees
espnfc.com/argentina/story/3046902/diego-maradona-defends-lionel-messis-lack-of-world-cup

>Comparing individual sports to team sports
disgusting

>Maradona's fault he wasn't spoonfed from the age of 12

Fighting for your place among the team with great players isn't spoonfeeding.

>an entire team built around him like a faggot system babby

That's exactly what Maradroga had at Napoli. Let me guess, you didn't know it took Napoli 3 seasons to form a title challenging team? You didn't know they finished 8th with Maradona in his first season? :^)

>and choke like a retard in every single world cup he participate in.

Some would call it choke, some would call it losing against a superior team. Whatever you choose, be consistent with it. If Messi choked at World Cups, so did Maradona in ECs and many other leagues/competitions he played and failed to win.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oui_AqwA50Y

Because doping is not his only cheating. La Mano de Dios? Really?

you realize that Maradona and Napoli threw away the 1987-88 Scudetto? they were ahead in points and were playing amazing continuing their form from the previous season. then came in the mafia or camorra, they told them to throw away their title push because they were set to lose big money in their gambling enterprise because too many Neapolitans had placed bets in Napoli winning again. they've only lost twice and they had five games left strongly they only took one point out of the possible ten. this is because the camorra had to do something to ensure they business wouldn't take a loss by threatening the players Maradona had his car vandalized, threats were made to players about the families being hurt, shit even Bagni had got a beating and his car stolen. Maradona was good friends with the underworld so he was always paid off in cocaine and prostitutes. at the end of the season the team was rewarded with yacht party orgies onboard infamous liners like the Achille Lauro, high class escorts, fancy dinners, premier quality drugs and night life access to all the best clubs and escorts. this was revealed by an ex-member, Pietro Pugilese

Milan won at the last day by 3 point difference this gave Arigo Sacchi's Milan their first trophy in his first year in charge which kick started their dynasty but this was their only domestic title since 1979 as Milan had been recovering from financial troubles while also being related for some betting scandal involving match fixing. the Serie A title was given to them but oddly enough, they had one taken away from them in the 1989–90 against Verona as the ref made sure Milan lost to give Napoli their second title.

i know mezi is gooder XDDD maradona so olddd

m8 almost every single CL and Uefa Cup final had at least an italian team in that period, in fact Serie A was more competitive than CL by a huge margin
In Italy you had Sacchi's Milan, Mancini's Samp, Loddar's Inter, late Platini's Juve, and all those lesser but tough teams (like Francescoli's Cagiari, Baggio's Fiore, Zico's Udinese) that made playing every week harder, and all of this in a more competitive format than a knock out tournament
Meanwhile in the CL you had a Real Madrid that got trashed 5-0 by Milan, a Bayern Monaco that's only famous for being ridiculized by Trap, no english teams cause they are murderers, and all the garbage teams from other countries that were good for one season at most
Marseille and Red Star were the only good teams that didn't come from Italy

after their second title Napoli partied even harder because the World Cup was being held in Italy that meant they were at home and had to travel less with less training to prepare compared to other nation's squads. it was during this World Cup Diego asked Neapolitans to back Argentina instead of Italy before their Semi-finals clash. this has to do with Neapolitans being treated by Italians as dirty outsider scum. they didn't oblige and Maradona won the game for Argentina in a penalty shootout. this stung Italy and his team in Napoli after the World Cup wasn't the same. he dealt with allegations of drug-taking were first levelled against him in 1990 then failed in a drug test in '91 was was suspended for 15 months that then turn to three year ban. he racked up fines for missing games and practices and he also had to deal with claims of a illegitimate son. he finally left Naples in 1992. It's been said that Napoli protected Maradona from drug test this leads to speculations that maybe they had enough of his antics.

Maradona's former personal manager was Guillermo Coppola, a corrupt individual who peddled drugs to the Napoli players along with Marco Fienga.

Maradona is the GOAT he could have won more but corrupt people got him to use his skills unjustly

being hormone fed and millions invested in the definition of spoonfeeding.

name one player from that napoli team you know without googling

>some would call it losing against a superior team
t. assblasted slav messifag rofl what a fuckin loser

>three mistakes in a career that spans three decades
lol is that supposed to prove something

>be consistent
fuck off you ponce

>tf
>tt
shut it, filthy clueless kike

>Italy
>counting world cup won by Mussolini's corruption
>winning the other through goading opposition into getting a red card
>think their good at football
>league is shitty french tier now

KEK

What the fuck happened to their league? they used to be fun to watch back when Milan was a powerhouse.