Why are you still watching porn, Sup Forums?
Why are you falling for the Jewish troll?
Nowadays porn sites are filled with cuckold, plastic surgery/makeup and all kinds of Jewish tactics to make you incapable of being attracted to actual women.
Why do you keep allowing this to happen? You guys seem to be redpilled but as soon as anyone mentions ending masturbating to online videos and instead get a gf you start fighting back and looking for any excuse.
>Honour
How the fuck can not fapping give you honour?
>make you incapable of being attracted to actual women
the original problem is the other way around really
Give me a gf then I'll stop watching porn
By knowing you don't masturbate to women getting fucked in ridiculous scenarios by other men every day.
>the original problem is the other way around really
How so? Masturbating every day to women in perfect lighting, with makeup put on makeup artists and plastic surgery as well as picked only from the top 10/10's to get drilled in their asshole for 10+ years really affects you whether you want to accept it or not.
Normal women don't naturally have 10/10 round asses, several lbs of makeup on and are shot in perfect lighting.
Even amateur shit? Jews own that?
Are they fucking demigods?
kek, I meant that it's women that are incapable of being attracted to us.
>Even amateur shit? Jews own that?
Masturbating to women getting fucked by other men is pretty cuck like.
ebin
You can't defend it tho, it's literally subconscious cuckoldry
reminder that Sup Forums is just conversation porn, and by coming here you're cucking yourself out of frendships with other men , just like porn does for sex
source
>myass.com
also though nofap gives you some of the benefits on that list, it won't help as much as you think unless you quit the internet entirely as well
It's literally not my wife being fucked.
99% of porn has shit lightning, no make up, no plastic surgery and the woman is some old street whore too ugly to go to high school.
shit...
The superior thug dominant black dick follows me everywhere I can't escape it...
You have a wife? then that's not cuckoldry. it's adultery which is even worse
Jokes on you, I still search for 90's porn with plot and natural tits.
But WHY do you only focus on the young guys that watch it?
What about the MILLIONS of women, past and present, that take part in it? It's amazing how people don't think that all those sluts existing won't have a profound effect on western society's moral fabric and cohesion.
Dont fap and I am still a fucking loser.
Quitting internet entirely might help though
No, I don't. I don't have anybody. I have porn.
It doesn't have to be your wife
>Dont fap
>Have sex
>Last 2 seconds
>Never have sex again
>Fap
>Have sex
>Last 2 minutes
>Nobody complains
>not masturbating to webcam/solo
what're you even doing.
>picked only from the top 10/10's
Now I don't know what kind of porn you're watching or how ugly the women around you, if there are any at all, are, but most mainstream porn has 5/10's at most
Under the makeup it's usually closer to 3/10, because if they look decent they can simply become escorts instead and make a lot more money for a lot less work.
keep at it and you won't be able to come at all for hours though.
>99% of porn has shit lightning, no make up, no plastic surgery and the woman is some old street whore too ugly to go to high school
Not true at all...
Look at the Pornstars before/after makeup pictures. Most of the popular pornstars look like 3/10 heroin addicts. That's what mostly fucks you up i think. After you've fapped to some shit like that for years it's going to be hard to actually get an average gf, you're just going to go right back to porn
imo the whole "exaggerated expectations" has nothing to do with the looks. it's the acts that are the real problem
>What about the MILLIONS of women, past and present, that take part in it?
That's bad too, but this is not a board of women.
>It's amazing how people don't think that all those sluts existing won't have a profound effect on western society's moral fabric and cohesion.
Of course it's bad but what does "w-w-what about them!" have to do with it? Men create the demand, if they didn't watch it in such quantities it wouldn't keep getting produced and be so lucrative of a career.
Tfw I can barely keep it up with my gf
I blame porn
...
I still prefer average girls, porn had the opposite effect of making me associate too much attractiveness with being a whore, which I guess is its own problem. But either way I don't use porn much anymore and I actually prefer plain or average girls
>tfw can cum multiple times
sex is ez
That's not how it's used almost always though.
When people call other people on Sup Forums "cucks" do you think they're referring to their wife getting fucked?
You know exactly what I meant
I really don't. Making "cuck" the new "fag" doesn't suddenly change the definition of the term.
if young marriage, and preferably arranged marriage, was brought back the demand would drop and there would be many fewer porn addicts AND sluts in the first place
Do people with these "exaggerated expectations" actually exist outside of the internet? I can't say I've ever seen or even heard of a case like that.
>Arranged marriage
Why would we want Islam?
People should have freedom.
>Do people with these "exaggerated expectations" actually exist outside of the internet? I can't say I've ever seen or even heard of a case like that.
of course they do, it's not outright but it's usually subconscious.
of course they do. But the real problem with porn isn't what feminists say about how people only want 10/10 women all the time and pass up ugly ones.
No the real problem is normalization of premarital sex, and also that you're conditioning yourself to only get off to yourself.
and the feminist anti-porn people will never go there, they will NEVER admit that marriage and patriarchy is what prevented the things they complain about in the first place.
Me either.
I remember all the posts before the first primaries saying shit like, "Bernie Sanders is LITERALLY a cuck!" I was honestly fucking confused and googled for like 10 mins trying to find out if his wife had had a known affair or something. Nope. Cuck is just a meaningless fucking term at this point.
I made a thread asking about this earlier.
Supply and demand compliment each other, you can't just isolate one or the other. You made a thread lecturing men on watching porn, and now I'm here to remind you that millions of sluts are also taking part in it, in everything from professional to amateur porn to nude selfies.
This is why I hate groups like NoFap - they worship women, and they honestly think that a few hundred thousands dudebros not watching porn is going to make any difference at all.
I despise porn, I haven't watched it in months, but it's never going away. The anti-porn ideals are always going to be confined to places like NoFap on Leddit and Sup Forums's Sup Forums. It won't gain traction.
>Porn jewish troll
>Implying the Jews are good at making porn.
James Deen was the best they had and he was an effeminate rapist.
>>Arranged marriage = Islam meme
>>seriously beliving "freedom" in the domain of family and mating is a good thing
>>spitting on the world our ancestors got right for centuries
I don't agree with forced marriage, or child marriage. But do you not realize that 200 years ago, there was NO such thing as dating and romantic love was considered frivolous and not the basis for marriage. People courted WITH THEIR PARENTS CHAPERONING THEM.
Having a "gf" was taboo entirely. You got to know them then married, and often weren't even allowed time together alone until then
>I don't have any evidence, but since I believe it's true I'll move it into the realm of the unprovable
okay then
>You made a thread lecturing men on watching porn, and now I'm here to remind you that millions of sluts are also taking part in it, in everything from professional to amateur porn to nude selfies
What's your point? Do you think I'm supporting that in some way?
>they worship women, and they honestly think that a few hundred thousands dudebros not watching porn is going to make any difference at all
It would make a difference to those "few hundred thousand dudebros".
>The anti-porn ideals are always going to be confined to places like NoFap on Leddit and Sup Forums's Sup Forums. It won't gain traction.
So? It doesn't need to gain traction, I'm just trying to give a helpful suggestion to people on this board.
I'll admit that no I have not personally run any studies that are peer-reviewed and cited dozens of times in academic literature.
Guys
What do I do when I pop a random boner after not watching porn/fapping for 3-4 days? Do I just try and willpower it away or what? Serious question
>stutter decrease
Jesus Christ how fucking much do you have to jack off for it to give you a stutter?
>But do you not realize that 200 years ago, there was NO such thing as dating and romantic love was considered frivolous and not the basis for marriage. People courted WITH THEIR PARENTS CHAPERONING THEM.
>Having a "gf" was taboo entirely. You got to know them then married, and often weren't even allowed time together alone until then
Yeah... And times change.
People didn't post on anime imageboards about white genocide all day either. NEETs didn't exist at all
It keeps me from going to hookers
That is called sex addiction
no I agree. I honestly have considered just leaving modern society behind and either learning to be a hermit or joining an Amish community or some other farming community. I'm not a NEET btw and have a successful job in technology but am growing weary that tech was all one big mistake .
I don't see much point in trying to fix the existing system when the West has been DEAD for over a century
>Porn causes stutter, anxiety, stress, memory loss, lethargy, erectile dysfunction, depression, and other side effects
>Stutter
This shit gets closer and closer to modern version of Hairy Palms every day. You prudes are ridiculous.
You can also point to any other person's studies, I'm not picky.
So many of those "benefits" are downright false.
Also
>implying I masturbate to women
>implying I masturbate to professional porn
I can attest to anxiety and ED is definitely right.
but the other symptoms are actually caused by not leaving the house, not moving your body, and INTERNET addiction.
How about you stop fapping and get one.
If you unironically believe that, just because the reason for marriages were power and interfamilial reationships, people fucked around less I highly suggest reading less badly written """historical""" fiction.
Maybe shit like Game of Thrones takes it too far in the other direction, but it's a hell of a lot more accurate than the rose-tinted idea you seem to have.
>I'm not a NEET btw and have a successful job in technology but am growing weary that tech was all one big mistake .
It's what you make of it, technology is great but you just need to use it properly.
Instead of videogames and cuckold porn use it to actually improve the world.
Do something else and it'll go away on its own after a while. Just because your dick gets up doesn't mean you must jerk off.
Easier said than done. I'm literally autistic, and I was so before I ever used porn or even knew what sex was. I was in special education for 3 years when I was about 10-12. The hardest thing for me is dealing with the fact that I may just not be suited for having a family and I might want to consider celibacy.
>What do I do when I pop a random boner after not watching porn/fapping for 3-4 days?
This is a normal part of being a man.
Now you know what it feels like to not be run by jewish porn directors.
>day 4
>vivid nightmare where i'm raped by demons
>wet dream
jammit i can't do anything right
>>improve the world
thats a progressive meme. Electricity didn't improve the world, it weakened and feminized and globalized it. Technology is what led directly to feminism by breaking down the agrarian lifestyle
>preaching nofap on Sup Forums
it's not gonna work.if you want to quit fapping,then quit Sup Forums
True, but hey it does have its uses. I could get a girlfriend but right now my life is too much of a mess, so porn it is.
I actually don't mind going to.hookers, its just the risk of getting arrested that's always there.
>Just because your dick gets up doesn't mean you must jerk off.
Wasn't implying that; I was just asking if there's like a stretch or a breathing exercise I can do to just take my mind off the lewdness
t-thanks Sup Forums
I look at porn as little as possible. It's impossible to avoid on Sup Forums, but you don't have to stare.
I have a gf, so I get to have sex regularly, but most people here don't.
I noticed a vicious cycle...
>No gf
>Sexually frustrated
>Look at porn
>jack off
>Feel better for ten seconds
What you should really be doing is avoid jacking off, and use your extra sexual energy to attract women. That's exactly why you have urges, it's because you're wired to find a woman to impregnate.
If you don't want a gf, sure, look at porn and jack off. If you do want a gf, the best thing you can possibly do is never look at porn and only jack off if you need to. Try to keep it to once a week. Only when you have severe blueballs.
Read the multi-orgasmic man, start lifting weights, go on tinder/okcupid and practice hitting on women, go outside and talk to girls, learn how to be funny, practice deep breathing, get a full time job, practice good grooming, and stop wasting your precious sexual energy on porn.
Jacking off to porn while looking for a gf is like popping your tires before a road trip. Don't fucking do it.
So then why are you using the internet
this, honestly preaching nofap on the internet in general backfires because it just has you looking for excuses to fap.
Relax, you seem offended here. It wouldn't surprise me if you're a woman.
>What's your point? Do you think I'm supporting that in some way?
Not necessarily, but you specifically focused on the male viewer aspect of this all without even addressing the slut problem.
>It would make a difference to those "few hundred thousand dudebros".
You mean a bunch of frustrated fedora tippers on the Internet that hate other men, worship women, and think they are better than everyone because they don't jerk off or watch porn, even though they constantly talk about those things?
>So? It doesn't need to gain traction, I'm just trying to give a helpful suggestion to people on this board.
Then what's the point? People come here every single day and try to tell these guys how to live their lives. If women can be sluts and be rewarded for it, why can't men watch porn and play video games and be happy doing it in the moment? Modern male crutches exist because it helps them with their shit lives, and there is no incentive to be a "real man" in western society anymore.
>was just asking if there's like a stretch or a breathing exercise I can do to just take my mind off the lewdness
It's a normal part of having a functioning penis and sex-drive.
Getting boners randomly is a lot better than only being able to only get a boner when your penis is being stroked in your hand and there is cuckold pornography displayed on the monitor.
Honor isn't on that list, and neither is """"""""honour"""""""
You post this in every nofap thread that's been up since january. Not saying you're wrong, but are you paid to shill the book or can I find it for free?
I don't do nofap but if I get an inconvenient boner I'll just occupy myself with something nonsexual, ruminating on it will just make you more frustrated. If you do meditation I suppose breathing exercises work but otherwise just do whatever.
I wish this was that simple, but for me as someone legitimately autistic this was never an option from the start. It's celibacy or bust for me I think, I should just use my energy for invention or something.
also
>>porn is bad but casual sex is good
you're a massive hypocrite
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Here you go m8. Not a shill, I just learned a lot from this book. I read it after my sex life with my gf started to cool off. Now it's better than ever.
>my gf
>gf
>setting standards too high
If you're ugly and weird, you need to find a gf that's ugly and weird.
And when you whine that you're not attracted to such women.. you realize OP is right
I never said casual sex is good. I'm very adamantly against casual sex. I think it's an immature mistake a lot of people make, I myself, as they are discovering their sexuality and what they need out of a partner.
But okcupid and tinder are fantastic for practicing talking to women, learning how to be funny/interesting, etc.
>Relax, you seem offended here. It wouldn't surprise me if you're a woman.
Disagreeing with you = offended... Uh ok? I'm simply confused as to why you think if I disagree with one thing that means it's mutually exclusive and I MUST agree with the counterpart.
>Not necessarily, but you specifically focused on the male viewer aspect of this all without even addressing the slut problem
How am I suppose to address the "slut problem"? Women go into porn because it pays good money - but even so, that's irrelevant. This is a board of almost entirely young men, why would I be trying to reach women on here?
>You mean a bunch of frustrated fedora tippers on the Internet that hate other men, worship women, and think they are better than everyone because they don't jerk off or watch porn, even though they constantly talk about those things
Strawman.
>Hate other men
How? By suggesting them not to fuck their libido and mental health up by not watching porn?
>Worship women
how? By suggesting men not to fuck their libido and mental health up by not watching up?
>Think they are better than everyone else and constantly talk about those things
I don't think I'm better than anyone else, I am simply sharing my opinions and looking for feedback on it. I just find it a little bizarre that Sup Forums is so redpilled on many topics generally but when it comes to other ones they fall flat.
>If women can be sluts and be rewarded for it, why can't men watch porn and play video games and be happy doing it in the moment
Because this is an idiotic argument.
The point is that it's a destructive addiction affecting many men. >If women are doing something bad why can't I just do something bad to myself??! I'll get back at them! - no you won't
Goddammit I'm quitting Sup Forums again
No fap a shit. No porn is where it's at.
Just don't watch porn and don't jack it 5 times a day, dummy.
>incapable of being attracted to actual women.
Women are disgusting. Why would anybody ever be attracted to them?
Only little girls are pretty and good, grown women are gross.
I have this problem of over stamina and it sucks.. trying to quit porn for good to help correct it
First if you must fap stop using the death grip.
If you fap way less often you won't need to. I do it like once a week or every 10 days or so and I've been able to have nearly hands free orgasms now
Either wait for it to go away or fap using your memories of real sexual encounters
>Women are disgusting. Why would anybody ever be attracted to them?
that won't work for most people on this board.
honestly the worst damage of porn is ALREADY DONE. no amount of abstinence will fix the fact that you first saw how sex works in porn before you had the real thing. Nothing will ever erase your memory.
NoFap is retarded because it insinuates that you should literally never fap, which is impossible. Holding in too much sexual energy will just lead to wet dreams.
NoFap should be taken with a grain of salt. It should mean NoFapUnlessYouNeedTo.
Sometimes you'll be with a girl and think you're about to have sex, haven't cummed all week, and it doesn't happen. You go home and can barely walk because your balls are the size of grapefruits. This is when it's okay to fap.
When you do fap, take your time. Try to last 10-20 minutes before cumming. Practice edging, breathing, etc. Use your imagination, not porn. If you're jacking off to porn you may as well cut off your dick, it won't work when you're with a real girl, or you'll cum really fast and not be able to connect emotionally.
A good rule of thumb:
>20 years old
>Cum no more than once every five days
>30 years old
>No more than once a week
>40 years old
>Two weeks
>50
>Once a month
>60
>Don't cum because you'll get erectile dysfunction and die an early death.
>you need to find a gf
nah
The thing is, if I'm a 4, I'd have to go for a 2 and still be treated like shit. I really hate being this superficial, but this is demotivating. Why bother? It would take an awful lot of propaganda to make one gender lower their standards this much more than the other. There has to be motivation on both side.
I'd take anyone who is a virgin, not fat and capable of being a decent mother. That's hard enough.
>Disagreeing with you = offended... Uh ok? I'm simply confused as to why you think if I disagree with one thing that means it's mutually exclusive and I MUST agree with the counterpart.
It's the snide tone you take when you post here. Calm your emotions, woman.
>How am I suppose to address the "slut problem"?
You can start by giving it equal grievance as you do to men watching porn.
>Women go into porn because it pays good money - but even so, that's irrelevant
Ahh, so you're making excuses for women. Alright then.
>Strawman.
It's the truth though, I've talked to those guys extensively and I've given them many chances, that's the conclusion I've reached about them. Many others have agreed with me before.
>How? By suggesting them not to fuck their libido and mental health up by not watching porn?
>how? By suggesting men not to fuck their libido and mental health up by not watching up?
They 24/7 insult other men on there and discourage them. The general discourse on there is to insult other men's masculinity while propping up women and making excuses for them every step of the way. Have you ever seen when a woman goes on NoFap? It's cringey how much she gets worshiped.
>I don't think I'm better than anyone else, I am simply sharing my opinions and looking for feedback on it. I just find it a little bizarre that Sup Forums is so redpilled on many topics generally but when it comes to other ones they fall flat.
So because people disagree with your very specific take, you think that means Sup Forums is bluepilled? I agree that porn is bad, but you are approaching it from a very specific angle and only blaming men then wondering why people are resisting you.
>Because this is an idiotic argument.
>The point is that it's a destructive addiction affecting many men
It's not about getting back at women. Too many westerners worship women for me to even put a dent in the feminist slut culture. Men have fallen so far because there is no incentive to be better.
>4
damn dude, guys always rank themselves higher than they really are, so you must be a 2 or a 1.
DESU you probably shouldn't breed, and porn is for you. We don't need anymore ugly people walking around.
Male multiple orgasm master race reporting in.
I just jerk off to teenage girls dancing in booty shorts on youtube, havent been to a actual porb site in like 2 or 3 years.
Holy shit
I'm halfway through the first chapter; so basically the movie Doctor Strangelove was right about witholding our manly essences?
I'm literally autistic but I still have the desire to breed and almost feel guilty about it because deep down I know I'm mentally incapable of being a good father since I don't feel what normal people do and would probably socially stunt my kids even if it wasn't genetic.
if I don't find some magic woman in the next 5 years I'm off to buy some land in the fucking woods