So guys,to put a long story short, my boss is making me work on my day off without pay for "training purposes"...

So guys,to put a long story short, my boss is making me work on my day off without pay for "training purposes". Working that training would put me over 40 hours in a week. What I am asking,is what my bosses doing illegal? Pic for attention.Will dump entire folder if a lawyerfag can answer me.

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Yes it is report him to the Dept. Of labor ... srs bro

dump folder and post on mega or vola anyways

If u have a union ... refuse then file a grievance... but I'm assuming there's no union involved

It's called overtime, grow up and join the adult workforce.

Are you a lawyer fag or have any experience with this? I live in Florida and I know Florida is a right to work state.Is it still illegal?

Yes, this is illegal.

"Training" that is mandated is work.
www.wagehour.dol.gov

Hes not getting paid idiot. Its not overtime unless you get paid for it. To the OP you can absolutely refuse to work if you arent getting paid and if he fires you thats wrongful termination and you can sue.

You fuck you are supposed to get paid for working overtime that is both on a state and federal level.It is illegal not to.
Since Florida is a right to work state he could fire us all at once if he wanted. I've already emailed a few lawyers but i wanted to see if i can get a response on here since there are lawyer fags on here.

are you salaried or hourly?
do you need the job and how bad?
can you report anonymously?
think before you burn your bridges.

OP, for every hour over 40 the dept of labor requires that you get paid double your normal pay. Ask your boss if you can be paid for overtime and if says no then report that SOB. Also there are laws that if you report him, he cant fire you, decrease your pay, etc. to get back at you. He will be fined if he doesnt pay your overtime, OP.

Right to work state only means that if a place is unionized, you are not required to be a paying member.... sure without a union they can fire u for breathing, but federal law is the fucking law

Report it.

It's so fucking obvious.
Don't let this stupid fucking system make you think you can't fight for your right to have a reasonable life, because working over 40 hours without getting paid is NOT reasonable.

fucking hell, you wage cucks are pathetic

Just because it is training doesn't mean it is unpaid. And OP said "working that training" and over his forty hours, implying it was paid. So fuck off with your excuses.
See above, OP never implied the training wouldn't be paid, just that it was on their day off and they didn't want to.

He did say unpaid dummy.. which is in fact illegal

Hourly.
I don't need it but I do like the line of work I am in.
He has at max 10 employees he will eventually be able to narrow it down but there are laws that would protect me.
They are calling it "training" but like a user said above mandated training should still be paid for correct?

send him a txt if you can, "You want me to show up tomorrow for training right? Just to be clear you do not pay for this? thanks"

Any confrontation will end badly. I decided to get fucked for 2 years, and the investigation is taking so long im not sure if its even worth it,

Call the DOL for real ....... ok back to trap thread I guess

I am not getting paid whatsoever for this training that is the thing and they are making it mandatory

Thanks user.Appreciate it.I'm not gonna let these greedy indian fucks screw me over

If you arent getting paid then dont go. Simple as that. Tell them you can either get paid for your time or they can't have it.

Look, if u like it and don't want any conflict with the boss sure go along with it and maybe down the line use it as leverage when u want a vacation or leave early or whatever

sauce?

Just call in sick

Find a new job

>my boss is making me work on my day off without pay
>without pay
On a scale of 10-10, how stupid are you?

Training still has to be paid for according to the dept. of labor. Document your hours and make adjustments with HR or whoever does your payroll. If they try to not pay you then make it an issue.

I love my job thats the thing but the owners are fucking dicks
This are greedy indian fucks they could care less
Naw man im sorry
Maybe

Unless it's all verbal. Or the boss straight up doesn't give a fuck. Boss could spin it as it was voluntary.

lawyerfag here.

depends on what your employment contract says.

He literally said he is not getting paid if you actually read it, you mongoloid.

>I live in Florida and I know Florida is a right to work state.Is it still illegal?
It's a federal law, it not state law.

What do you do? Get the same job elsewhere

Probably pretty dumb but i didn't know the magical word of "training" would make it any different
These are haji owned stores by greedy indians who control all the finances. We have no HR.Hell,I cant even get my paystubs

Go and still clock in. Tell every single person there to do the same. Doesnt matter if its for training, federal law says you get paid for the hours you are there.
Oh then dont be a dumb fuck and report these bitches to the DOL. Their shit is all kinds of fucked up and illegal.

All verbal.im going to talk to my coworker and get her to admit through text that I am working over 40 hours a week and that I am not getting paid for it.
Literally have had no contract since this is just a family owned business
I work at a vape shop.Even though vaping is for fucking faggots, I still enjoy helping people get off smokes.

if it was stipulated otherwise in his employment contract then it isn't illegal.

i'm a legal aid attorney and i work over 40 hours a week nearly every week despite only getting paid for 40. it's not uncommon.

>Probably pretty dumb
I wasn't even replying to you, but kudos for owning up to your stupidity

it's illegal. when you hit over time you gotta get paid time and a half, indians are super fucking cheap. don't let them bend you over because they're too cheap to pay. if it's your day off tell them you made plans and that they can fuck off.

>no contract
Well shit nigga you dont actually work for them then

Yeah,I'm going to be doing that tommorow since everybody has been telling me to. Will still stay in thread to dump pics and for more general advice.

Great observational skills there bud

WHAT FUCKING COUNTRY DO YOU LIVE IN
and what province/state/canton, etc
you're online fucktard, laws differ in in different places.
give us some clues.

Then you are a retard who needs to log his actual hours and get what you are owed.
Tbh sounds like the owners legit have no knowledge of how a business is actually supposed to work.

No contract. If you are a legal aid attorney you probably make salary correct?
So basically i could tell them to go fuck themselves and it wouldn't look bad on my resume because I never legally worked for them?

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Don't talk to your co-worker, you need to get confirmation from your boss.

pretty much this.

even if it is illegal, you can't enforce the law on your own behalf if there's no proof you work for them OP.

Your resume is what you make of it dude. Even if you did legally work for them you dont have to put it on there.

Yes, it's illegal.

America,Florida,Brevard County
Yeah,probably.They were busted for selling spice several years back and somehow didn't get shut down or locked up. I guess because they had illegals work for them and blamed them

>retard who needs to log his actual hours

i don't think you understand. it says in my contract that i only get paid for 40 irrespective of how much work i actually do. i log ~60 hours a week.

yes. salaried positions do work differently, but like i said a bit ago, if you don't have a contract you don't have proof that you work for anyone.

Oh sweet fuck it imma probably quit then tommorow and go back to working at a gas station.Might not like it as much but I won't be getting fucked.
Imma bust so many nuts to this
Yeah you are right.

Just go get another job at a legit vape shop dude. If you stay even another day you are a dumbass faggot who deserves to lose all the time you will.
Then you are a huge dumbass for taking that job. Also it is still illegal for them to work you 60 and only pay 40. Contract doesnt mean shit

Cool cant wait to go in there and lose my shit and tell them to suck my white American cock

The difference between a person with a career
and a minimum wage welfare case
is whether you're willing to work to get the job done
or are just clocking the hours.

Welcome to scrubville, OP.
Can I have fries with that?

for hourly positions yes it is, for salaried positions it isn't.

who's the fucking attorney here faggot? god i fucking work for unwashed faggots like you, show some goddamn respect.

Trust me man,if I could I would but there are none hiring in my area. They wanted me to sell a guy a mech mod with zero experience building or ohms law. Didn't want the fucker blowing his hand off.

Let's see your badge Mr Perry Mason.

Nigga dis bitch is obviously hourly salary is a different monster all together

Oh,I'm sorry.Am I supposed to have a super great job at the age of 20? I'm going to be joining the military you cuck but just because this job is shitty doesn't mean I can't be informed.

Trips demand it.

Well shit then just get literally any other legitimatr job. It'll be better than the shit show you have described

>I'm going to be joining the military

You totally missed the point, it's about attitude.

Great, you're just the caliber of person we need defending the USA.

Now you'll be a republican welfare case.

Like I get it is a buisness but no other vape shop that is worth their name would hire the person that sold him that shit.

Okay, I see your point now that it was a bit more clear.Thank you

Are you fucking serious double pay??! It's time and a half for overtime in Canada and I'm working 98 hour weeks

Well that should be yet another warning that you need to gtfo
You also need to gtfo with your unrelated bullshit,

by doing what? snapping a pic of my bar license so you can dox me?

i'll pass. thanks.

>98 hour weeks

what the fuck are you doing

>t. I dont have one and i dont know how to ms paint

Its time and a half here too other guy is either posting a state law or not in the US

Working on the pipeline boiii

Time and a half is still double pay in America
So because i didnt sign a contract means I can just quit without repercussions.Do all family owned business make people sign contracts of some sort?

That is perfectly correct grammar. He's basically saying that you might be pretty stupid. The probability of you being slightly dumb is high. It makes sense.

Every legit business will make you sign a comtract of employment. If you did not then all you have is a verbal agreement to exchange time for money and arent actually employed by said business. So yes you can legally just never show up again and they cannot do jack shit about it other then you wont be able to use them as a reference for your next job

>So because i didnt sign a contract means I can just quit without repercussions.

legally? sure. that isn't saying anything about the repercussions of quitting your job and having to either explain a shitty old boss relationship or a gap in your resume.

>Do all family owned business make people sign contracts of some sort?

uhh, usually it's the family-owned business that are skirting the law and paying people under the table because the costs of running a small business by the books are just too high for many of them, or they specifically don't want legal employees for other nefarious reasons.. so, no. it's usually the opposite.

Holy fuck, I've seen that chick with the tattoo on the train several times.

No one said anything about grammar, you dumbfuck. was originally talking about the stupidity of
for saying OP never said he wasnt getting paid; then, OP voluntarily said "im probably pretty dumb".

But could I still take legal action against them since they would not be paying me for training and I would be going over 40 hours.Would I be able to win the case if I can get one of the owners to admit that I am working over 40 hours and not getting paid?

It is highly illegal.

Training time is considered work time for which you must be paid. All training time is work time if it occurs during an employee's regular shift, or if it is required by the employer.

Training time does not have to be counted as work time only if four conditions are met:

1) It occurs outside of your normal work schedule;
2) It is truly voluntary (this mean your employer cannot directly or indirectly pressure you to attend, and there can be no repercussions if you choose not to attend;
3) It is not directly related to your current job (it is not designed to enhance the skills you use for your current job, but instead is designed to qualify you to get a new job); and
4) You do no other work during the training.

you're what we call a retard

Technically no you do not have a case because you legally do not work there

Well,atleast you got a pics of her tits now

damn son

the whole point of paying people under the table is avoiding legal action and taking advantage of them.

yeah you may have a case, but unless this has been a thing for years upon years and you've racked up a hefty sum you should have been paid for, nobody's going to take it.

well, apart from possibly legal aid. heh.

Time and a half is what you normally get paid, plus half of that added to it. Its not double pay, you cuck. Its 1.5x pay

Save every email, txt, whatever. Go into office with your cell phone set to voice record. Tell him that you are not working/training unless you get paid. If he refuses then take that shit directly to a lawyer.

Welp,none of those conditions are met
I'll probably then turn in my two weeks tomorrow then. I'd rather work for a corporation where I will atleast not be getting buttfucked since they will do everything by the books

this isn't 100% true if he can present other kinds of evidence, such as paystubs, video evidence, etc.

but yeah these cases are generally losers.

Noted

>2 weeks
Nigga did you not read what i just said.you dont work there. Dont give a notice. Just leave and find another job
I mean he could try to prove it but it would be difficult and a timely process. Also he said earlier ITT he doesnt get paystubs

Yeah,kinda figured.Well,thanks for the advice guys.Probably just gonna start dumping now.

I like my coworker and my coworker likes me.I could give a shit less about a recommendation from the bosses but I'd want one from my coworker because she is technically my manager

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As you guys can tell,I love girls with cum on their face

OP is not actually a faggot and delivering

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Saved the best for last.Im just about out guys will still linger for a bit more.Thanks for the help

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