If you have never read Marx´s books I will just sum them up for you:
>"I dont wanna work and people have to give me money cuz I am a lazy fuck who wants everything handled to me, but I dont want people to know that, so I´ll just blame capitalism and call it oppressive."
So basically he was the first SJW ever.
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You've never read them, have you?
yes, I have. The difference is that I understood it and you didn´t.
I read the manifesto too and came to the same conclusion. The ideology of useful idiots and mindless parasites who only know how to destroy and not create.
Never let your country fall to communists like my parents country did. It will set you back culturally and mentally.
You forgot the part where it says if you don't gib dem moneys the state should kill you.
-cue a retarded communist yelling about how it was never tried and how every bad communist country is actually a fascist country-
not sure you actually did read the manifesto, he says it was a conservative movement, and some of his biggest complaints are about how capitalism destroys the family and leads to degeneracy
Can you cite quotes where he says anything remotely like that?
> conservative movement
You definitely didn't read the manifesto
Stoned
"The lower middle class, the small manufacturer, the shopkeeper, the artisan, the peasant, all these fight against the bourgeoisie, to save from extinction their existence as fractions of the middle class. They are therefore not revolutionary, but conservative. e. Nay more, they are reactionary, for they try to roll back the wheel of history. If by chance, they are revolutionary, they are only so in view of their impending transfer into the proletariat; they thus defend not their present, but their future interests, they desert their own standpoint to place themselves at that of the proletariat."
Chapter 1 of the communist manifesto faggot.
I just graduated from an liberal college
You're almost right
The one thing is, Marx genuinely believed he was helping people with his theories
The problem is literally his Jewishness, i.e. his proclivity to revolt against authority and reject the Logos
This phenomenon is so consistent among Marxists that one is led to simply take E. Michael Jones' thesis at face value and run with it
lmfao they're swedes
>not even mentioning Engels
You sound like my yugonostalgic retard of a cousin OP fuck off
how the fuck are you supposed to do things like stop immigration when the profit motive is favorable to immigration?
how do you stop divorce when the industry is worth tens of billions of dollars?
it doesn't make sense not to stop immigration because thats an ever increasing customer base and cheap labor. doesn't make sense to stop divorce because it's more beneficial to consumerism.
There's a chapter about Marx's life in this book (he was even lazier than I first thought):
mises.org
Everything is sourced, most of it is taken from Marxists. I read an Amazon review which had a mild complaint about the lack of neutral tone in the chapter about Marx's life, but I found the occasional quip quite funny.
If you intend to read the entire book I'd first start with the introduction, then chapter 3 (the biography), then finish the rest of the book in its intended order. Chapter 4 was the most enjoyable chapter for me, followed by the final chapter, written by Murray Rothbard, which discusses various quasi-communist Christian regimes from centuries ago.
He was a disgusting kraut, first and foremost.
Here I'll sum them up for you:
The words don't mean anything. It's a plan to create mountains of corpses and concentrate power in Jewish hands.
Daily reminder that Marx was an upper middle class intellectual and Engels was a factory owner.
Every time they or their disciples spoke of how the upper classes were trying to sedate and divide the lower classes with political ideology, it refers to them first.
Ebin trollposting XDDDD
>how the fuck are you supposed to do things like stop immigration when the profit motive is favorable to immigration?
You limit it with government regulations, like the US did multiple times prior to immigration-related legislation from 1965. It's nearly impossible to "stop" these things.
>how do you stop divorce when the industry is worth tens of billions of dollars?
I have no idea. Hope for another Great Awakening?
>it doesn't make sense not to stop immigration because thats an ever increasing customer base and cheap labor.
Sure, but if you want to keep your gene pool, spiritual life, or culture distinct from those of other countries, it makes sense to limit it a bit and not simply disestablish borders as an institution.
>doesn't make sense to stop divorce because it's more beneficial to consumerism.
Consumerism cannot possibly be the ultimate justification of a good policy. That's how we got into the mess that made people think Communism works.
I don't understand the point of your post, desu, did you reply to the wrong person?
Shhh
Don't disrupt the circlejerk.
I guess this is why you are a third world country, can't even comprehend basic economy.
Americans sympathetic to communism are the most disgusting creatures on the planet
Why aren't there T-shirts with that pic on them? It's not even edgier than the ones with his face on them.
Reminder that just like Jewish intellectuals producing poison today, they were well-insulated from the results of their policies.
Fact: Marx never worked a day in his life.
That should tell you more than enough about his theories on labor and capital.
Where are you from in Australia? Are you here on vacation, or will you be working while resident in the United States?
>describing an revolutionary ideology with the singular focus of dismantling the "old order" as conservative
are you literally retarded? you think with the degeneracy running around you are simply going to have a great awakening?
are you fucking high nigger?
no they will do what is profitable because that's the game in capitalism. wake up all capitalism is always about consumerism.
the point le nigger is that no matter how hard stormfags want society to magically become traditional, it's not happening because capitalism is the root problem rotting the foundation of the family and hence society.
muh traditions muh families
they need time and money for that to teach children and to raise them to be adults. capitalism doesn't facilitate a high birth rate, right now the market says they are extremely expensiv. so no matter what you do they won't have more, because it's not advantageous. you want people to go against what's advantageous to themselves?
attack the argument and not the man.
Maybe a handfull of people on Sup Forums actually read any of Marx works. Only like 10% or something actually know that communism is a stateless society, ergo communism wasn't tried is a valid affirmation
en.wikipedia.org
Sup Forums is a case study of this effect.
To be fair Marx actually did have a really shit life and it was partly because of the government that was in power.
The problem is people take his work out of its original context in the sense that no one today outside of third world shotholes has any reason to think they are oppressed.
>MUH REAL COMMUNISM HASNT BEEN TRIED
how about I just cut your head off instead?
>read communist manifesto
>"gibs me dat" and "kill bourgeois scum" repeated for 100 pages
engels and marx were probably the two worst people in human history
>communist manifesto
>100 pages
Dude by all means Criticism Marx, I'm a libertarian myself. But please stop embarrassing yourself. Manifesto is literally a pamphlet length document. Though I admit you are better than the faggot who claimed to read das kapital in 3 days and "refuted everything"
It's a objective truth. Comunism hasn't been tried. Catalonia during the spanish revolution is a probably the nearest we got, but still far away.
en.wikipedia.org
For you
>He thinks Soviet Union was communist
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>are you literally retarded? you think with the degeneracy running around you are simply going to have a great awakening?
Not really, I was just answering your question. It would take something like that to lower divorce rates, i.e. some incentive that transcends economic self-interest.
>wake up all capitalism is always about consumerism.
Describing one -ism as being "about" another doesn't make much sense to me. Both are components of the other.
>the point le nigger
>>>/9gag/
>is that no matter how hard stormfags want society to magically become traditional, it's not happening because capitalism is the root problem rotting the foundation of the family and hence society.
1. I'm not a stormfag
2. Capitalism and organized religion go hand in hand, the Great Awakening is by definition an event from a capitalist country's history. This isn't an argument against the possibility of a spiritual movement occurring in America, it's an argument about how well spiritual concerns are genuine concerns. It isn't a very good one, either, since you don't even realize what you're doing.
I'm not interested in curing every ill that ails the modern world, that's not possible. I'm interested in addressing the problems that concern me and that I can affect. More than that, I'm interested in living a life that is at least not bad and at most good, and I don't think spending all my time trying to institute a utopian economic order would make me or anyone else very happy. You seem to have a savior complex.
nice meme
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Communism is shit
Nationalist socialism is great.
Kant a shit, desu
You guys would probably elect a shitty Maple Hitler, anyway.
Karl Marx was always a lazy faggot.
The only people who think he was smart are libfucks who hate any established government. Same with retards who worship that Che Guevara moron.
Fuck all of them.
>Capitalism and organized religion go hand in hand
No they don't. What goes hand in hand is liberal capitalism and ''religion'' as practiced in America. Your religion is a joke. 20,000 people gather in a stadium to sing songs. Wow.
>spiritual concerns are genuine concerns
No such thing in America, outside of some cults. In any case, religion plays little role in politics. It's mostly about irrelevant issues, like faggots. And still, faggots prevailed.
>trying to institute a utopian economic order
You're right about that.
>Communism is shit, because everytime it was tried it turned into shit
>But Nationalist socialism is great because everytime it was tried it ened up in ... Oh check out this cool SS uniforms!
This. Communists at least managed to build somewhat functional states that lasted for few decades.
Hitler's state lasted for 6 years if we don't count WW2.
Low-rent shit really, similar to the watered-down Foucault that passes for academic scholarship in the modern humanities departments.
>attack the argument and not the man.
>post picture of a straw-man
Not kidding about the SS uniform. They were God tier
Well of course, dude. Most people know this.
So i take it you are WW2 master Montenegrin bro? How is law school?
Any good books on Eastern front/Japanese?
He could mean that one is anarchism which allows any sort of degeneracy to run rampant and the other is an authoritarian state which somehow makes everyone moral, righteous folks.
At least top 10, yes.
>>But Nationalist socialism is great because everytime it was tried it ened up in ... Oh check out this cool SS uniforms!
>what is Spain, Italy, Chile, several other Latin American countries, Imperial Japan, Nasser, Portugal, etc.
kill yourself
forgot pic
You guys should look up some of Marx's angsty teenage pottery.
>No they don't. What goes hand in hand is liberal capitalism and ''religion'' as practiced in America. Your religion is a joke. 20,000 people gather in a stadium to sing songs. Wow.
How is that not organized religion? I didn't say "true religion," did I?
>No such thing in America, outside of some cults
I'm starting to think you're one of those Europeans who doesn't know anything about America and thinks of it as Shitty Europe.
>In any case, religion plays little role in politics. It's mostly about irrelevant issues, like faggots. And still, faggots prevailed.
Which is why I'm hoping that these faggots come to Jesus and the country can turn around. It probably won't happen, but it's the only way to lower divorce rates. Even then, this isn't a Catholic country.
Yeah sure. Go make a tweet about that on your tablet while you're in Starbucks, idiot.
I hope you get gassed. You should leave America if you hate freedom.
>Portugal
>National Socialist
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I support this. In fact send then here so we can kill this kind of stupid people.
Hitler was invaded by 3 military super powers at the same time, before the war however, Germany was doing p good.
>Manifesto is literally a pamphlet length document.
i have a nice, wide print with an opener exclaiming how amazing marx was and how we should be proud to regurgitate such treasured historical ideals
you should explain how you got to that conclusion.
i don't think you've read marx.
>adding racism to socialism totally makes it work!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Why are commies so delusional?
That just shows how communism is not viable, if they can't never get past the transitory state before the entire society collapse.
meanwhile i had to hack apart my hardcover print of mein kampf because that fat fuck from the ADL was given a chance to rant about how evil hitler was in the introduction
it's amazing to me how modern literature is still so politically biased
I have. I don't think OP's summary is very good, his book is more like
>Teh EBIL Factory Owner CEOs obbress the poor innocent worker, but teh worker will ALWAYS rise up to defeat the EBIL CEO, and take their RIGHTFULLY DESERVED money which they RIGHTFULLY DESERVE because they are so OBBRESSED and DISENFRANCHISED because teh EBIL CEO went and STOLE their money.
>Teh only way to stop the EBIL CEO from OBBRESSING the poor worker is to institute GOMMUNISM where the workers own the factories and everybody shares everything and holds hands and sings and it's all one big happy hippie paradise.
Marx's book is trash. I wouldn't recommend it unless you want a laugh.
wow, imma #cruzmissile now
He's a kike, what do you expect?
You realize that the point of marxism and other flavors of cuckoldry is to trick people into submitting to the power of the state right?
Yah it still doesn't work. It still works better than socialism with different races. White nationalist free markets would be the ultimate system.
what is war for 500
because his main arguments through most of his literature were conservative, about restoring the family to more than a monetary arrangement and against consumerism.
Too bad your man dropped out already
Evangelicalism is what's wrong with this country
Can't wait to see the constituency dissolve and its congressional representation disappear
Dude get this one.
No introduction or footnotes or edits or anything, just Hitler being based.
Don't have a twitter account and there isn't even a starbucks in my city. I don't like coffe btw.And i don't have a tablet.
>Hitler dindu nuffin
If he hasn't embroiled his country in perpetual violence, made agressive expansions into peacefull neighboors, then maybe he wouldn't be invaded. And i think Hitler declared war on 2 of those "superpowers", except for Britain wich declared war to support a public alliance she had with Poland
your Arab blood is showing, you get absolutely blown out and can't do anything but spam.
It ended up with Germany becoming a world superpower and fighting the entire world and almost winning.
does it have the grammatical/editing errors of the first edition?
#cruzmissle will never not be funny
Read Marx works. I haven't, but i am sure he adressed tose points. he didn't intended the revolution to happen in 3rd world shitholes, but in highly advanced countries.
>Says he wants to abolish the family
Are you fucking retarded?
The power of manifest destiny is unique in comparison to all other forms of human organization in that you have the ability to stand on your own as a single entity and succeed. All other forms of organization end in a few having power over all of the many. America is the only country ever that has tried this. Liberalism has now destroyed that
Yes, but it's still perfectly readable. The errors extend to commas in weird places, and run-on sentences that ramble because Hitler wrote it while pacing back and forth in his cell.
Is it an issue for you, or...?
>falling for the national socialism is racist meme
Read a book instead of listening to libtards. Actual National socialism is not racist. Neo-nazis that praise it for its supposed racism just take the jewish lie as truth, there for hypocritical.
I dont even find worthy to reply seriously to that guy. He claimed my country was National socialistic, even though Salazar was disgusted by Hitler.
>with Germany becoming a world superpower
lol, are you a retard? There were only 3 superpowers in the world history. Great Britain in victorian ages, USa and SU.
He had to fight Stalin either way, communist have tried to take Europe over before, communism is globalist and Stalin arming up anyway. And he sorta had to take france a some countries to stop Britain from deploying on the ground, which worked for a while
you missed out the "I'm a jew and all goyim are slaves" bit
>Hey, let's set up a society of workers, soldiers, peasants and intellectuals
Bill, you can be the worker and manufacture all our goods
Jim, you can be the soldier and get your leg blown off fighting all our wars
Ted, you can be the peasant and supply all our food
and what will you do?
>Oh, I will be the intellectual and sit all day on my arse telling you all what to do
Some animals are more equal than others
google Why Johnny Can't Think pdf or check 4+Sup Forums /pdfs/
This.
Communism is so weak that it depends on receiving food, money and material from capitalists.
Natsoc is so strong it takes the rest of the world to kill it.
They became a super power because they invaded half of Europe.
>falling for the national socialism is racist meme
Are you seriously going to argue that national socialism(at least German Nazi party) wasn't violently racist?
oy vey goyim, if we all vote to take their property, it isn't theft, because we all wanted to, right?
don't you get it? they don't own their stuff, WE DO!!
cuck pleb moran(grade F)
are you?
the family is now a monetary arrangement, nothing more or less in capitalism. the free market has determined that the value is high for marriage, the market likes divorce as it has created a huge industry around divorce itself create billions of dollars, divorce fuels consumption, lawyers etc.
communism wished to restore the family, oh yeah which places are more family oriented? the faggots in the west who claim to be religious or the former communist states.
>implying a free market would work either
Adding nationalism to something does not make it automatically better.
Theory of labour is a lie. Distribution economies will never work.
not an issue, but i always took the surviving errors as yet another slight against hitler and his intelligence/credibility
>haha stupid hitler can't even write correctly