15 dollar minimum wage

Whats wrong with a 15 dollar minimum wage? Will it really fuck up America?

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8.50 minimum wage is already ruining this country.

Minimum wage is stupid, because it pushes out of the market people whose jobs are worth less than minimum wage.

establishing minimum wage, doesn't increase the value of these people's work, it just makes some of them unemployable.

It already is, Wendys is now replacing cashiers with kiosks. Good luck socialist leftys. Now the working man gets fucked again.

everyone who supports it has no understanding of economics and/or is too lazy to go to uni

Where do you even get that number from?

these niggers just pulled 15 out of their asses it seems. Did they research anything?

Fuck off Jamal ... You don't deserve 15 an hour for frying chicken at kfc.

How will an increase in minimum wage help when there's no jobs?
Why pay minimum wage when you can replace most of those jobs with machines?
>What's wrong
Small businesses would go under because many of them can barely afford to pay their employees as it is.

Because those that ask for it don't even earn half of it.

One of the organizers admitted Fight for Fifteen made for a better motto.

>tfw it was a scam by the Democrats to push automation onto society faster

Trying to dictate market values is how you make yourself communist.

Bam.

Why $15? Why not $10? $12? $20? $30

Why is it fucking $15, and why has nobody explained WHY?

This is what '$15/ Minimum Wage" means: govtslaves.info/wendys-to-switch-to-self-ordering-and-automation-to-avoid-15hr-wage-hike/

The 'adults with families' working these jobs is a tiny, tiny percentage of who is working them.

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>fight for 15$
Is this some military advertisement?

Also, as user said,

Higher minimum wage will shut down local/small businesses which will leave our society/country with more dependency on the big companies that are already involved in corrupt government and market take over.

As minimum wage goes up, employment will go down as corporations won't want to pay higher wages for low to no skill work. This means increased dependency on the government which means more government control.

Fuck. Could you imagine if this were to happen county-wide?

>jobs at fast food resturants worth as much as mid-tier IT jobs or nursing positions
>have to go through multi-group interview process to get a job flipping burgers
>Cheeseburger costs $45

I refuse to believe arcade revenue climbed so much in the 00s

Meh. I don't see how the other minimum wages fixed anything. So I don't see how this one would.

hey man you just don't get it
it's all about feels not reals now
$15 just feels right

Have another then.

DUDE MONEY LMAO

I don't know man if they are counting adult arcades that serve beer and food then its possible

>Small businesses would go under because many of them can barely afford to pay their employees as it is.
this is a point that is always overlooked by the 15$ supporter. They always use big corporations like McD or Walmart as example of corporations with lots of money to spare forgetting that, while these giants may be able to afford it, the small business owner who struggles to compete with them won't, therefore leaving more room for these big corporations to expand. They are basically helping the very corporation they claim to hate.

I remember learning about price inflation and minimum wage in high school. What are they teaching people these days??

is this someone trying to make a shitty "correlation =/= causation" meme, cause these are fucking terrible examples if so

I'm all for it, fuck it. I'm 25 years old working as a steelworker shitty manual labor job only making 11.50/hr. I work my balls off up there working most areas of the shop averaging 60+hour weeks yet I can barely afford to rent a 1br apartment that isn't section 8, and I don't even do that. I'm still at home. atleast with 15/hr I might be able to live outside of shitville, independently with nobody else's help. that's all I want.

I dont even think the giants could afford it.
McDonalds employs millions of people.

Thinking about space causes existential dread and more suicides or something kek

To compete with the Japanese excellence in science and technology the US adopted a high spend and eastern culture to compete. unfortunately this lead to a higher level of seppuku, due to the higher standards people now held themselves too.

In two years I went from an entry level position where I made 10 dollars an hour to a real job at the same company where I make ~21.50 an hr.

People should not be rewarded for being too lazy to pursue employment outside of fields that were intended to be staffed by literal fucking children.

Fuck these entitled faggots, bring on the robots.

That last one has an r-score of like 0.997. I'd say that's a pretty good example that correlation and causation don't necessarily imply each other.

Raises the cost of living for everyone else, inflation and the fact that employers/businesses will ramp up automation to replace workers.

A moderate minimum wage increase to $12 or 12.50 bucks a n hour with some logical regulation is the smartest thing to do, but that won't be happening.

I think you guys are ignorant gredy capitalists.

we deserve 40 dollars an hour minimum wage.

yes, I thought about that after I posted

It's weird, this guy runs legal sweat shops, right here in the states. The working conditions are HORRIBLE, from all the accounts I've read.
I'm surprised that no one has asked his opinion.
I'm sure he'll get some sort of waiver, though, he usually does.

Only 2% of full time workers are on minimum wage

Someone post the Wendys thing!

#FightFor15

Stupid, entitled, lazy America. You think you are such Kings and Queens that any position available will provide for your comfort.

You use the Government to stuff your own greedy pig faces hahahaha! You even want to Government to legislate financial security now?

You are finished. You are BROKE America, I'm debt and beyond debt.

i didn't even see my state brother had requested it before posting it. we're mind linked

>Raises the cost of living for everyone else, inflation
Yup, especially those now unemployed due to the aforementioned automation.

These people are literally retarded.

Fuck, I miss when fast food joints were actually staffed by students instead of dropouts and ex cons. At least a 16 year old is still learning.

It's because people who support minimum wage only look up and see assholes so they think everyone must be like that since they don't look down to see the shit. Little do they know that they're a shitty asshole as well.

Kinda easy to propose stupid ass ideas like "fight for 15" when you have no idea what you're talking about. Did you really expect a liberal to think big picture instead of just them self?

What stops companies from doing this right now?
Why would they even need to wait for minimum wage to get hiked up?

they can afford these tho

A better question is why it should be $15. The entire argument is backwards - the amount a job pays isn't determined by the standard of living it's supposed to support. It's the same sort of argument used by people who complain that CEOs make too much money, as though compensation has passed some sort of threshold and any extra money is just being wasted.

because it's cost efficient to have employees over the machine system at $8/hr, but not at $15/hr?

I feel really bad for 16 year olds/teenagers who won't be able to get a first time job soon. The ones who value hard work and wanting to gain first time experience and learn to be independent will be denied a job because leftists pushed for minimum wage hikes that resulted in robots taking all the jobs.

Kids won't be able to learn any valuable job skills.

Bullshit. That's almost $3500 a month gross. Takehome would be at least $2500.

Want to see what happens when you start asking them questions about how it all works?

youtube.com/watch?v=Q437BX7IXd8

Even if machines don't save much money compared to workers presently (and they probably do) there is a start up cost associated with implementing electronic kiosks. As a result companies think, eh, we don't need to book losses for a quarter if we just keep things as is. But if a minimum wage hike gets approved and they suddenly need to start paying out the ass for their employees they may as well bite the bullet and buy a machine that doesn't need benefits.

>Did you really expect a liberal to think big picture instead of just them self?
Of course not, but I expect their craziness to be tempered by the politicians on the left, who should know better, rather than pander to the idiocy.

How about being reasonable? What the fuck is wrong with ten?

Respectable entry level posititions all pay ten now anyway, those will go to 12 or 13, burger flippers can make ten, and we can all carry on with an improvement that doesn't completely collapse the economy.

Makes sense.

It's a tax on everyone earning more than 15 dollars an hour.

That's right. And even if they can find an opening they'll be undercut by an illegal.

The only "skill" future teenagers will learn is how to blame the system for keeping them down just like blacks. Crazy how "progressive" policies keep reinforcing this cycle. But I guess that's the point right? Make it shit for everyone and we're all finally equal.

Posting again with a picture because that gets attention!

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>Neil asks a question.
>Naquasia says "Let's just say..."
>Follows with a statement that doesn't follow.
>Plus it's not an argument.

this
I have been working for my father for one year, for free, because if i dont work for him the business will die, and he's not old enough to retire yet.

They take 40% of our income every year, and recently i've been trying to figure out ways to save money via tax cuts. I cant even grant him a tax cut by declaring work hours because there's not enough money to pay me minimum wage. I did the math, with the money we on average declare, he's living(my mother subsidizes my non existent income with food money with her 50k/yr income) on 28.37 dollars a day.

And the govnerment keeps bringing mexicans in, which have over saturated the job market, and the ignorant goyim shop at these big companies like walmart and target, further killing off all the local business.

The government has become a tool designed to destroy independent family and culture. They send wave after wave of ignorant, uneducated, scum into my neighborhood, and now i'm part of the 10% white left in my county.

THEY DONT EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH.

Well it only encourages more and more young people to be dependent on the system, since eventually the government will start handing out basic income cheques every month because they can't get a job.

As a moderate liberal I just don't get why so many leftists want these outrageous skyrocketed wage increases that will hurt more than help.

This planet is going to shit.

>10 dollar minimum wage to flip a burger
I worked in a call center making $10 an hour and earned every cent of it. I've also worked in fast food.
>Little Caesars
>McDonalds
>Burger King
I'd rather flip burgers and make pizza for $8 an hour than make $10 wanting to kill myself at a call center. Keeping the minimum wage what it is isn't a bad idea at all mostly because it keeps the competitive market. I've only seen crap jobs pay min wage and that seems reasonable. It also motivates the individual to say "I can flip burgers or make phone calls but one pays more" and get a new job that pays more learning something new.
>Being reasonable?
7.25 at 40 hours is roughly around 250 every 2 weeks meaning roughly around 500-600 every month. I had a one bedroom apartment on that same salary just fine. What I think the problem is that people want to be payed more for shit work because they know they bombed out at life.

I haven't heard a good argument in favor of minimum wage increase that didn't involve "MUH FEELS!" or "It's [current year] come on!".

They only hire 6'4" chefs with a 9" cock at $130,000 no more no less. It's a bizarre hiring practice that has nothing to do with the minimum wage.

Wow, she really doesn't seem to grasp just how expendable people like her are.

>I just don't get why so many leftists want these outrageous skyrocketed wage increases

For the same reason that this dog is doing what it's doing.

Today Obama said that the US should be more like Nordic countries.

Swedes and Norwegians apparently get government mandated 25 vacation days every year

will the dems push for mandatory paid vacation days for every worker next?

it'll mean more automation like what Wendy's is doing

How come there are no liberals who protest against the Fed?

my point still stands.

It's already happening, Wendys and some McDonalds have self service kiosks now, eliminating cashiers
>but m-muh easy jobs, muh $15 an hour
insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/13/wendys-increases-self-service-kiosks-overcome-minimum-wage-hikes

Eh an extra week of vacation is fine. Don't go overboard though.

>7.25 at 40 hours is roughly around 250 every 2 weeks

Not sure if woman or nigger...

Why not give the $15/hr minimum wage to Poland or North Korea instead? They need it more than American liberals do.

They're not told to.

I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been cowboyin' for 25 years. I've had 14 broken bones, 2 concussions and a punctured lung. I know pain and I don't want any more of it. Especially when I cath.

That's what I'm afraid of. If we ever become dependent on the government to the extent we depend on it for our very livelihoods we are completely at its mercy. The government of this country was supposed to fear the people, not the other way around.

We keep getting closer and closer to a reality where we stagnate and forget everything we swore to believe in as a people. And what will bring this about is nothing more than lowbrow, cynical, identity politics. Breaks my heart.

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>Fed assfucks the entire American population for the past 30 years
>nobody cares

Their universities blame all fed/banker/government actions on "the rich" aka people who make between $60k and $500k per year. The proles lash out at the rising gentry, so the entrenched aristocracy can stay entrenched until their inbred nepotist heirs wind up dying in their 20s.

>I'm educated because my degree in opinions says so

a reasonable minimum wage is a min wage set on the average cost of life which goes up about every two years or so at the same rate as inflation.
the minimum wage should be set by states and not by the feds in order to reflect the cost of life of that state.
This is what we currently have in Canada and it's working just fine.

The future is going to be Mass Surveillance Socialism mixed with corporatism. The Government and Mega Corporations will be in complete control, everyone will go to the breadlines and go back to their tiny homes. Anyone who speaks out will be charged a terrorist.

We are fucked.

>my point still stands.

What point is that?
The one where you can't afford an apartment when you make $2500+ a month after taxes?

You poor dumb bastard.

>peoble `re oleady losing they jobs
>losing they homes
>Receibed a raize
The way she couldn`t properly pronounce her words hurt. I don`t know what to think man. They are working at fast food because they made one mistake after another and wound up there. But the way she said she deserved 15$ bothered me. A secretary can make that. A roofer can make that. But that involves effort.

Honestly I'd get behind a candidate that offered the idea of federal mandating three or four weeks of vacation every year. I don't have a shit job that pays less than $15 and I'm about $3k from paying off my student loans so I don't need college freebies.

>fight for $15
>fight/15 in white
>the silhouette is black

GIBS ME DAT

inflation, how does it work?

Order. Eat. Repeat.

Is this really there slogan?
holy fuck

plz take note that while cost of living should not include smartphones and other expenses that are not necessary for life, it should still be higher than welfare in order to keep people at work

I earned 10 dollars an hr doing shipping compliance for a half billion in revenue a year company and was promoted twice in two years and now make more than double that.

Why were you attempting, or expecting, to make a career in fast food or answering phones? Those jobs are LITERALLY for part time women and children who are in school.

You may have earned your pay but you did not accrue any skills that would justify paying you more. The work force is a ladder, if you refuse to even attempt a climb you don't deserve shit.

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THE FUCKING PLEBEIANS TOOK THE B8. RIP IGNORANT MASSES.

Underrated post

>The work force is a ladder, if you refuse to even attempt a climb you don't deserve shit.
this 100%
if you're not willing to do more than the minimum, you don't deserve more than minimum

>plz take note that while cost of living should not include smartphones and other expenses that are not necessary for life
Good luck explaining the concept of wants and needs to these people we have here. You might as well be speaking Spanish.

Actually speaking Spanish would probably help you in conveying your point. Fucking Christ we are so fucked..

Sorry about that been a long day.
7.25 at 40 hours is about 500 every 2 weeks roughly around 1k/month depending on your state.
My point still stands that you can live on minimum wage the problem is that most businesses don't give you 40 hours a week. My gf works at Pizza Hut and only gets about $120 every pay period because "they can't afford to give her full time".
You're right on everything you said there. That's why I'm not lobbying in favor of a minimum wage increase.
If you want to get out of making a life of an entry level position you don't deserve $15/hr. period full stop.
>The work force is a ladder, if you refuse to even attempt a climb you don't deserve shit.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>answering phones
I wish that was what it was. More like survey data collection but the point still stands it is worth paying more than flipping burgers. I'm not saying $15 because that would be too much but not min wage. $10 seems like a good idea for things like this because it gives you incentive to stay at the company.

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Why is this so funny?

>unemployed, unskilled, and unfrugal people asking for immediate $15/h
JUST SQUANDER MY SHIT SENPAI

>falling for the minimum wage Jew
You realise its a trick created by the banks to keep people from ascending a ladder based on their jobs worth right?!
You also realise it doesnt matter if its $12,15, 20 or $50 as inflation will just push the cost of living up and it all evens out anyway right?!
Thats the beauty of non-gold backed currency.

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One of their first spokespeople was a woman who had been working there for ten years and thought she deserved a raise for doing the same job for that long and having two children during that time.

They don't even try to persuade people any more, they just try to get you to accept the worst bullshit by acting like they're not fucking with you. It's like a shit test.

>letting a nigger who can barely speak onto national television

why

If fast food workers are gonna earn 15 bucks, I fucking better too. I don't like the idea that shuffling from side to side at a counter is somehow more demanding then working outside in New England weather 8 hours a day

>My gf works at Pizza Hut and only gets about $120 every pay period because "they can't afford to give her full time".

I ran a large nightclub for years. Sometimes we'd have a shit night where I'd have to cut staff. It happens. I'd always ask who wanted to get cut before telling anyone to click out. Funny enough, I never had to cut anyone who didn't want to go. 90% of the time it was chicks, and they were excited to go, until they saw their paycheck. Then they cried because it was less than they expected. They always forgot this by the next time I had to ask if anyone wanted to leave early.

Why $15? Why not $12 or $20?

Posted it before, they're going to have to wait up to six years before they even get $15, if there isn't an economic collapse or laid off. In that time they can get a degree. If they really are getting welfare while working, I'm sure they can get financial aid.