Maybe you should apologize, Sup Forums

> Gets first shown in the trailer
> Sup Forums goes full "WE WUZ STORMTROOPERS"
> He actually turns out to be the best, funniest and most original part of the movie
> Also, is much more relatable than Rey, the actual protagonist of the movie.

This proves that Sup Forums will gladly identify with a nigger, as long as he's a man.

>rey a cute
>finn a fun
>poe a suave
>kylo an interesting

i don't know why Sup Forums didn't like this movie

Because they are edgy. And MUH DISNEY, MUH STROMG WYMIN, MUH JEWS, MUH NIGGER. People who hate this film are either intimidated by competent female and black characters or just simply don't know shit about film.

>b-b-b-but the plot was a copy A New Hope!!1!

I already apologized. He was the only redeeming factor in that shitshow.

Oh come on, I liked the movie but there's no question it was practically a new hope. I don't really care though because the reboot aspect was so well done.

just like when hillary and obama ran for prez

AYO FUQQ DAT WHITE HO NIGGA WE ON TOP NOW

Boyega is a we wuz kangs sort, he posted it on his instagram.

We're talking about the character, not the actor.

>millennials acting like like women and niggs haven't been free and equal in western society for over a century or more at this point


The reason no one takes you fags seriously is because you're crying about fucking nothing. It's a joke to everyone but you, who look like spergs to everyone else

>WE WUZ STORMTROOPERS

We do, just the few jews on the board want to bomb it.

He has nice hips, better than Daisy's, but his teeth while bright, is not the best in the game

>niggers
>free and equal for over a century
>still had to protest for rights just 50 years ago

Come one m8, I'm as anti-sjw as the next guy but at least get your history right. Did you think all racism just ended after the civil war?

I didn't get involved in the nig posting because, unfortunately, I am not as racist as Sup Forums needs me to be.

I'm so sorry I let the hivemind down again.

Rey has a cute actress but a bullshit character.

>gets shown in first trailer

Actually people started getting buttmad way before when one of the first glimpses of him was with him holding the lightsaber. People were upset about a nigger main character jedi. But youre a newfag so you wouldnt really know that

>millennials acting like like women and niggs haven't been free and equal in western society for over a century
>Century

Are you stupid?

Actually I called it before that I was more worried about rey and liked Boyega in Attack the Block.

So you can suck my dick.

Why would that change OP's point?

Rey and Finn are the worst 2 characters in star wars because they make no sense.

In what way? Rey I can understand to some degree but what about Finn?

Finn starts out as a storm trooper who is traumatised by seeing his friend killed in battle, shortly after he helps the guy who murdered his friend escape and takes extreme joy in killing his former brothers.

Do you want more?

People do fucked up shit after being traumatized.

Is Rey a big girl?

>the best, funniest and most original part of the movie

That's not much of an achievement but he's an ok comic relief, I'll admit that. As a character however, he makes no fucking sense. His backstory is a complete mess.

>gets taken from his family as a child
>exposed to First Order propaganda and trained all his life to become a soldier
>becomes a janitor at their super secret superweapon
>somehow ends up on a command ship and gets selected to be part of a very important mission
>instant ptsd and decides to desert after first combat mission
>from then on starts killing his former brothers in arms without mercy even though the death of one of them was shown to be a traumatic event and one of the reasons why he deserted

Thats fucking retarded, shit character. He's like 30 years old. How was this his first battle?

Rey was just as bad as finn.

Thats a very surface level reading of his character. His arc as a character is that he goes from a coward to learning how to stand up to the First Order. I don't think he's traumatized from war or his friend's death because then he wouldn't really fight or would have a hard time fighting the rest of the movie. I'm pretty sure that sequence is just him having a conscience and recognizing the atrocity that they are committing, hence why he never fired a shot. That also frees up his character to get along with the resistance, and fight his former "friends".

I niggerposted a lot just to rile up reddit. I don't even like star wars, the entire franchise is garbage. Only good movie is Phantom Menace

The he should realize his former "friends" are brainwashed just like he was.

>I'm pretty sure that sequence is just him having a conscience and recognizing the atrocity that they are committing

No, you clearly see he starts losing it after one of his comrades dies in his arms (and puts blood on his helmet). At this point, they haven't committed any atrocity. They're just attacking other soldiers who fire at them and they're taking prisoners.

Well, no. Like you said, he was brainwashed, but for whatever reason the conditioning wore off. Be it by chance or maybe he had some predisposition that worked against the conditioning but who knows. Point is, he's a rare case and the rest of the troopers followed the orders perfectly and viewed Finn as a traitor. When he decided to get out of the First Order, he tried to do it as quietly as possible, but he was attacked on several occasions and he had to protect himself and the people who were helping him stay alive. It's not like he goes out of his way to murder stormtroopers in cold blood.
>inb4 he helped blow up an entire planet full of them
They blew up five planets so it was in retaliation.

>>becomes a janitor at their super secret superweapon
so a black guy has to have a lowly menial job even in a galaxy far far away? ffs jj racist

Ah that's true, my bad. Then it's probably just supposed to play into his cowardly character. He probably just didn't want to die.

They're supposed to be mentally conditioned from birth so switching sides like that seems even more stupid, he even spends the rest of the time hooting and hollering every time he kills people for the rest of the movie.

everyone who commented on his blackness was a studio advertiser, exactly like OP

we know this is true, because its the same advertising strategy that they used for Ghostbusters

you are not a bad person, the advertisers and merchants simply want you to believe that you're a bad person so that you will buy the junk they're peddling

Ok I understand that they're supposed to be conditioned from birth but what of it? His initial character is that of a cowardly stormtrooper who's conditioning wore off.

>conditioning wears off
>gleefully genocides stormtroopers

His character is shit

>for whatever reason the conditioning wore off

Fans of this piece of shit movie can't even make real excuses for it's bullshit.

user maybe look in to child soldiers or conditioning in general. It doesn't just wear off.

I enjoyed his performance but his character didn't make much since. He just kind of turned for reasons. 'Muh force and all that. Even when Kylo questions that one character that was so unmemorable that I forget her name she says he showed no signs beforehand.

I understand there needs to be questions for the next entries and that his past will probably be more fleshed out it kind of took me out of it. Not even one little hint or shred. He felt poorly written and put together in that aspect.

Because it was a financial and critical success, and anyone with a passing interest in Star Wars could admit it was a better Star Wars film than more than half of them.

In other words, contrarians.

>kills people that are trying to kill him
So it's ok when Luke cheers but not Finn? Remember Luke wanted to join the empire at first.

What else can I say? It wasn't explained, maybe it will be in later films. Right now I prefer it being left vague instead of handed to us like we're babies.

I know, which is why he's a rare case.

> He actually turns out to be the best, funniest and most original part of the movie
Wut?He was meh, all the new actors were meh. except for kylo and the "LAST DAY OF THE REPUBLIC" guy
>rey is cute
ray is boring girl with a resting bitchface. I don't mind here but all actors are cute or hot, its like the minimal requirement
>finn is fun
I hate the guardians of the galaxy/whedon style humor
>poe is suave
He is barely in the movie. are you sure you are not just making this up
>kylo is interesting
There is nothing interesting about kylo, he is an open book but he has pathos so that is something at least

He used to be a janitor so he probably wasn't conditioned from birth, just switched from the Sanitation to the Combat division recently. Too bad the movie didn't try to explain it.

Rey is going to kill Kylo and take his place under Snoke in the next movie. Finn is force sensitive (why he could resist the brainwashing + could handle a lightsaber). The third film will have Finn killing Snoke and redeeming Rey.

>He's like 30 years old.

>So it's ok when Luke cheers but not Finn? Remember Luke wanted to join the empire at first.
luke wanted to fly. I don't much care for luke anyway. luke never made it to the academy for Finn this guys are his family and his breakdown started because he could not just kill people but then he turn around to kill tons of people in the name of good. I can give it a pass during the escape but he never had a moment of contemplation

>I know, which is why he's a rare case.
maybe he has hemophobia and it never came up

>How was this his first battle?
he was literally a janitor before this.

Nobody actually gave a shit that Finn was black. The media just decided to find the one person on the comment section of the trailer and exploit it into a fucking firestorm because they literally have nothing better to do or anything else to contribute because they're a bunch of worthless, talentless hacks.

I did not much care for the film but I don't thin know what edge is. please use words correctly.
>People who hate this film are either intimidated by competent female and black characters or just simply don't know shit about film.
said every fanboy trying to defend their shitfest (be it DC,marvel or other)

yes how dare we care about a fictional universe. Its basically like some kid destroying your lego castle and everyone saying now it has to be build his way and you are a faggot for caring about lego
well we don't know who was under the helmets (there is even a set photo of new hope with black troopers) but yeah its assumed that rebellion is the one with diversity

Well we don't know much about their conditioning user. It could be that there conditioned to have some sort of camraderie, but it's also likely that they're just conditioned to have 100% loyalty to the First Order. Other emotions may be seen as dangerous and could get in the way of their service to the Order.

Maybe, we'll just have to see if anyone comes up with a good enough idea for why he defected, whether it be in the films or EU. Preferably films though

>People do fucked up shit after being traumatized.
thats the "lol he is just crazy" under new skin

>Nobody actually gave a shit that Finn was black
were you not on here around then?

You don't understand. If he wasn't 100% committed to the cause phasma or someone else would have picked up on it long before the events of tfa. Killing should be nothing too him at this point. His conditioning should have taken care of his cowardice. If anything he should have been like grey worm, some sort of operator who rediscovers his humanity thought out the new trilogy, not some kevin hart fuckup.

>He's like 30 years old. How was this his first battle?
I think he is supposed to be in his teens/20s
Why would you bring a janitor into combat? Why would you make him part of kylo's escort?

>No one cared that he was black
I remember going down to the comments when the first teaser was released and people definitely cared

>janitor to Resistance hero

So Finn is the new Roger Wilco from Space Quest? I'm alright with that.

if you're above the age of 13 and discussing characters in the seventh film of a disney franchise you don't get it. that goes for people who hate it and buzzfeed-tier critics calling rey a feminist icon. rey and finn are made to be as inoffensive as possible. they aren't characters as much as vessels to spew as much cheese as possible and occasionally do/say whatever sets up the next big spectacle. their motivations are simplistic to non-existent and they represent nothing.

I really enjoyed tfa as a spectacle, but that's about it. it's vapid wink-wink nostalgia for adults, and an introduction to storytelling + visual candy for kids

I already did apologize though. Finn was the only likeable part of the movie. I said it - the ONLY likeable part.

Well as this user pointed out He wasn't part of a combat unit before that confrontation on Jakku. So his cowardice and weak conditioning could've slipped under the radar easily.

>his cowardly character. He probably just didn't want to die.

That's also poorly written then. The next thing he does after the battle scene is risk his life escaping from a star destroyer with a prisoner.

He turned his coat after his first combat mission, that's way too sudden and makes it difficult to believe for someone who has been brainwashed and trained since childhood and who pretty much never knew anything else. They just didn't take their time to develop the character and show how increasingly conflicted he was becoming.
They could also have easily improved his character by having him refuse to kill, which would put him and his allies into more difficult situations and would increase the tension.

>Im so mature look at me, look at me.

I think the implication is that he's force sensitive and different for some reason.

But lets be real, with as many bullshit things that happened in this movie, this is the thing that bothers you?

I did not see any cowardliness in him

you can greentext all you want, that just means there's nothing to add

You're probably right. I guess I'm just bitter at Buzzfeed for wanting to turn a simple space adventure movie into a social justice movement.

>The boy who would become Finn was taken as a child from his family to serve the First Order. Finn later reflected that he had been too young to even remember who his family was.

> FN-2187, known to his fellow troopers as Eight-Seven, was seen by his comrades and superiors as an ideal First Order stormtrooper, and consistently scored top marks as a cadet. Finn was also once in charge of sanitation duties at Starkiller Base.

Even if Finn was 20 that's far too late to blood them

Surprisingly Finn was the best character from the movie
Too bad he was also ruined by incompetent writers

>Dude he is a good so let's make him toilet cleaner to be more likeable for plebs
>He was kidnapped and rised from child to be a cold killing machine(yeah stormtroopers as killing machine bravo lucas) and somehow he is nothing like this at all he acted like a normal human being instead of guy with identity problems and moral dilemmas, he should be like Terminator 2, he should change from cold one to warm one, his character should evolve
>He just picked up lightsaber and use it like a pro when it's established in canon that you need a proper training to use it

He spends the entire movie lying to people and running away.

to be fair Sup Forums crossposters barely qualify as real people. they're just unwitting pawns to make it easier for the marketing team to guilt people into liking the film at risk of being grouped with racists

>implying contribution
proclaiming your imagined superiority to other posters is not a real contribution

>He actually turns out to be the best, funniest and most original part of the movie

Well like I told the other user, his lack of good conditioning probably slipped under the radar considering he wasn't part of a combat unit up until the start of the movie. He escapes the star destroyer probably because he saw the first order for what it was and probably also felt like he would end up dying at some point fighting in some battle. So in an attempt to get away from it all, he seizes the opportunity Poe presents and manages to get away. Initially he just wanted to live his life, he grew to care about Rey which is why later went to save her but until that point he was going to leave the group behind. So it's not totally comteadictory, but you're tight he could've been fleshed out more.

He wouldn't have made it though basic training with his personality. even if he was assigned to janitorial duties before jakku that shouldn't change anything and if it did why were they grabbing janitors to be on the front lines with kylo ren? That makes even less sense.

Shit my bad, forgot the (You)

its called being shrewd and having your shit together. He is not bela, he knows no one else will save him so he keeps his cards close to the vest so he won't get shot by his friends, old or new

that was only part of my comment, it's still there if you want to re-read it

because it was shit?

kek you're not too bright

Well he lies to the resistance about the base but he still becomes parts of a suicide mission just to save Rey... even though he barely knows her.
He's just a very inconsistent character.

yeah it must be Sup Forums boogeyman. real people can't have opinions that are different from yours

Oh I agree with that. But just take pleasure in the fact that when they're not virtuesignaling, they're busy being awful journalists with every other subject.

Finn's character is too shallow to even deserve this much critical analysis
he was a good guy that didn't wanna be a bad guy anymore, thats it
and was somehow able to resist a lifetime's worth of imperial indoctrination - which is never even touched upon

Who know why they're grabbing janitors? They're all trained for combat, and it's not like he wasn't anything other than a grunt.

so you think people other than Sup Forums and Sup Forums types disliked him because he was black?

I didn't even express an opinion. the trailer showed nothing of detail about the character, just that he was black and wearing a stormtrooper outfit.

I'm a Mexican from tx and we don't usually like naggers but when I seent that lil black boi on the screen with the lightsaber I was like mane holup

>Well like I told the other user, his lack of good conditioning probably slipped under the radar considering he wasn't part of a combat unit up until the start of the movie
They are all part of the combat unity, its an army. He was a janitor because he probably failed at various stages of his training/indoctrination
>He escapes the star destroyer probably because he saw the first order for what it was and probably also felt like he would end up dying at some point fighting in some battle
He escaped because he noted that phasma noticed so he new it would be torture and death(maybe re-education if he was lucky)probably lots of rumors as to what happens to people like him.

>grabbing janitors to be on the front lines with kylo ren? That makes even less sense.
5$ says the force did it.

don't pretend to be so naiive

Well shit, that actually does make me feel better.

maybe kylo had a fit of rage and they needed someone to mop it up
>just that he was black and wearing a stormtrooper outfit.
yep. They did not dislike him because he is black, they dislike him because it contradicts both their headcanon and general experience with star wars. rebels have diversity and empire has mostly old white dudes

Mexicans don't say "boi" or "mane holup"

I know they're all combat ready, but he was put on starkiller base for sanitation purposes. Combat was unlikely for him at that point.

Rey is not cute (She has horible teeth and a 5head)
Poe was not suave ( He was in the movie for ten minutes)
Kylo was not interesting (Brooding emo trope)

Finn was fun I'll give you that. The movie as a whole was shit though.

Sup Forums is going to pull the exact same thing for the new emma watson tom hanks film hes in

i know this because they already have sperged today

the box office speaks for itself

we're not talking about whether there were different reasons to dislike the character, we're talking about where the people who disliked the character because he was black came from

Combat is unlikely for many people but officers still train even when they have not been deployed for a long time(neo canon Lost Stars) are you telling me they would not fill any free time he had with training to keep his skills sharp?

>new emma watson tom hanks film
its not star wars and people are over emma watson after all her financial crimes and general bullshit