Kill yourself, if I was chancellor I'd demand it back or else I'll unleash my army of rapefugees on yours.
Luke Cruz
France lost the Franco-Prussian war fair and square
but then Germany lost 2 world wars, so really you both have no grounds for complaint
Alexander Jackson
Greece is Europe's under-appreciated teacher in everything.
Jaxson Bennett
>implying the first one was lost
Jaxon Rogers
it really was, Mahmud
Christopher Ross
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Andrew Fisher
1 vs 1 Germany beat France. They could have occupied it and completely fucked the economy, but they literally just took a thin strip of german-speaking land on the other side of the river. = fair and quite generous, respectable. Sportsmanship.
France goes ape-shit winning a war with America and Britain doing 80% of the work and wants to dismantle Germany as a nation post WW1 and WW2.
Sore-losers.
Brayden Evans
>America and Britain doing 80% of the work
holy shit
Wyatt Morgan
Denmark=not cucked yet gets more land. Good.
Sweden/Norway=Land too cold for sand dindus. Good.
>+1
Jace Garcia
*And Russia
John Myers
>and wants to dismantle Germany as a nation post WW1 and WW2
Everyone wanted that. And it's a good thing. Proof: most human progress was at time when Germany didn't exist.
Aaron Evans
well, no, they really couldn't. Britain and the other great powers might have been okay with Germany knocking France down to size, but they really would not have allowed France to be destroyed. Britain went to war with Russia over fears of Russians dealing the death blow to the Ottomans. They would have donew the same to save France.
And France did much more than a mere 20% on the western front of ww2. Yes, the conditions they laid out after the war were unreasonable, but it's not surprising given France's position as a country that simply couldn't go toe-to-toe with Germany. They needed Germany destroyed, their survival depended on it
Cooper Bell
>And most of that progress came from Germany* (1920s nobel prize winners)
Josiah Jackson
I wouldn't say that Germany lost world war 2. We controlled Europe for a a great amount of years! Sorry that we got fucked up because the big brother was called to help the French. Lucky Americans they had great weather though...
Aiden Williams
Lacks Poland
>Yugoslavia No thank you
Parker Thompson
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Nathan Davis
Didnt he mean the western front only? Because that would have been true
Henry Nelson
That's a map from 1914. Poland did not exist, sorry for history senpai.
Landon Johnson
SWEDEN IS GONE HAIL THE NEW KINGDOMS
Parker Foster
Your army was obliterated and your land taken. Pretty sure that counts as a war lost.
Yeah I was just too lazy. I do think that the balkans could benefit from a confederation type deal
Chase Thomas
Is it? Yeah they're really good in making debnts and let other countries citizens pay for it!
Joseph Rogers
Let's keep a positive tone famalans.
Ayden Price
That can't be a map from 1914 because Denmark has too much southern territory on that one.
Thomas Evans
I´m for pic related. The other smaller ones will stay absorbed.
Easton Kelly
The little island east of schelsvig (spelling)? My mistake.
Carter Adams
Any reason for Austrie-Hungary to exist without Austria?
Jack Cruz
>And France did much more than a mere 20% on the western front of ww2.
I hope you mean ww1. France didn´t do shit in ww2 and the gained clay there helped germany.
In ww1, they at least stalled germany for a long time...
Dominic Wilson
It belongs to germany. Infact: All of Europe belongs to Germany but that's another issue.
Justin Harris
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Ian Lee
Not really, just wanted all germans "heim ins reich". Hungary can have that clay, so that france, germany and hungary will determine europe mainland policy as countries of similar size.
Since OP said "guilt free population exchange" I didn´t use much logic when doing that.
Isaiah Wilson
Yes, of course I meant ww1
The height of Germany's (or "Germany"'s) territorial size was in the middle ages under the HRE. Claims outside that are really, really shallow.
Literally any country could claim Europe in that case
Liam Jackson
>Like
Best one in terms of detail so far. Love it.
Ryan Ramirez
Never ever post that again
Hudson Bailey
This looks like an EU IV map.
Anthony Foster
In that case Germany would be a continental superpower, given that it already dwarfed Austria-Hungary, Italy, France, and even Britain. It likely could have defeated any of the great powers in 1914 1 on 1,
Kayden Rodriguez
Have you been playing CK2?
Blake Gomez
More like CK2.
Colton Kelly
Fact.
Lucas Robinson
It's not Germans,it's just what they left Germany as, humiliated yet territorially intact was just asking for a nationalistic war of vengeance. Should've done what America did to Japan, fair terms, create a stabler democracy and let it re-emerge as an ally of Britain and France against the Bolsheviks.
Elijah Jackson
>Implying France wouldn't want more of a revenge
France caused WW2
Joshua Turner
True, they all tend to produce god awful border gore.
Daniel Rodriguez
Oh shit the hivemind is real.
Robert Cruz
Oh shit the hivemind.
Hudson Watson
Everyone hating on Germany.
Colton Ward
What the fuck 4chinchin I rereshed you multiple times and it didn't appear.
Jaxson Diaz
Aye
Noah Morris
Gib flanders
Isaiah Collins
It's okay, your oversight has been forgiven this time.
Julian Lopez
That's highely unlikely. The French knew they had no chance against Germany, they wouldn't risk it unless they knew they could count on Britain and Italy, not just Russia, with whom they ahd an alliance.
I know it's not cool on Sup Forums to follow the mainstream narrative, but seriously, the war was largely caused by Germany and Russia.
Russia needed to save face after the Russo-Japanese war, and so it was rapidly building up its military capabilities, and reacted strongly to help the only ally they had left in the balkans, Serbia.
Germany saw an existential threat in Russia. It was widespread opinion that a decisive war should be waged with Russia sooner, rather than later, because by 1918 Russia would be too strong to tackle
Jaxson Adams
please take us
Lincoln Sanchez
I know, nobody could do shit against them 1 on 1. I might be biased because I´m german, but imagine the technological advances if germany could have avoided war back then by just being too strong and the others didn´t want to fight.
Germany was set back in that regard by the 2 wars. Imagine what the world would look like if we didn´t have 50-80 million death and 10 years of war withing 40 years of each other.
And I actually believe that this scenario would be much much better than the one that actually happened.
Cameron Campbell
>inb4 those roman borders aren't exact I know lads, I'm just saying modern roman empire would be somewhat dank.
Andrew Garcia
Perfect
Jason Turner
Golden ages come and go. I don't see how germans are different from anyone else in this regard. A large empire would face success, then stagnation, and then decline
Jacob Green
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Dominic Allen
add polish luthuanian common wealth and give flanders to germanic state
Charles Wilson
try to find a flaw
Brandon Myers
Then I´m glad that this germany in that pic there isn´t a large empire and doesn´t have colonies. The ones being actually big with/without colonies are russia, brits and france. Germany would probably get 120-150 million citizens in the long run with that amount of clay, still way smaller then the US in terms of population and land mass.
Jaxon Barnes
Why would Kerelia and Kola belong to Finland?
I see it here so often, it's quite confusing. Those lands have belonged to Novgorod since the middle ages, and quite frankly, Russia is unrecogniseable without the dinosaur head
James Martin
Meh, Byzantine is acceptable.
Samuel Turner
Fingolia too small
Samuel Rodriguez
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Juan Walker
Fucking Cornwall
Lincoln Perez
How come ottomans and poland always end up blobbing so hard? France blobbing like this was my fault though. I enabled them by helping against Austria.
Camden Stewart
>Belarus >Estonia us an exclave > norway and sweden are seperated but norway in denmark are together >wales and cornwall are independent >no basque country >German exclave >gave denmark rightful german clay >That Ukraine >That Bohemia > Poland lithuania is a meme > Greece is majority Turkish >Hungary and Romania are the same country >Balkanized Yugoslavia >no Albania >Corsica and Sardinia are there own country >Portugal >Why does Bulgaria have so much greek clay >Slovakia being a country >Belarus being a country >Italy doesnt own istria > Czechia is majority German and worst of all switzerland, why dont people realize this is the most meme country in existence. It is just a relic of the HRE and engulfs Germans, French and Italians far from an ideal country.
Andrew Campbell
You're playing an inferior game, friend. Vicky and hoi are the way to go
Carson Moore
But I'm a scrub and even EU4 is 2 hard for me.
Justin Scott
>It is just a relic of the HRE and engulfs Germans, French and Italians far from an ideal country.
And yet, you can barely find a country that is more satisfied than them.
Juan Russell
This is objectively the best map. I forgot to add a basque country though
Jonathan Hughes
Hoi is very easy, and Vicky is reasonable. There's just a bit of a learning curve as with any grand strategy game
David Kelly
Thanks for the support guys.
Matthew Allen
>Note if you want certain borders don't be afraid to draw them in.
Carson Cooper
Looks pretty good familia
Xavier Diaz
no ireland meme tier out of 10
Brandon James
Why is Turkey even a country with all this love for Byzantium?
Ethan Roberts
No potatoes, no independence.
Josiah Brooks
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Isaac Cox
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Jace Turner
#modernart
Luis Martin
underrated post
Benjamin Mitchell
Still not one greater Bulgaria.
Shame.
Joshua Miller
but its neverland u know =)
Mason Cook
Czeck the first fuckin post, mate
Thomas Mitchell
No problems debt guy,
Angel Bell
Wrong map-
Joseph Jones
Subpar greatness. Ugly. Needs more coast.
Xavier Parker
What se fuck is zis?
Leo Wright
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Leo Cook
Why is scotland eating england
Why are some countries based on ethnic borders and similarities and others are just random smatterings of different groups
Julian Johnson
Cus Sup Forums
Andrew Turner
>Communism N O
Angel Johnson
Someone please rank my map, I have one for the whole world - africa if anyone wants to see it.