What are your thoughts on Gary "save the kids" Lineker?

What are your thoughts on Gary "save the kids" Lineker?

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onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ecoj.12181/abstract
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Good striker in his day. Now very salty because his cosmopolitan liberal beliefs are being rejected throughout the western world.

t. Alt Right McDonalds Fry Server

Why so buttblasted?

I don't get upset over the dregs of society. Otherwise, who'd pump my gas?

BALTIMORA

BALTIMORA

You do seem pretty upset

>liberal beliefs are being rejected in the western world
So when was the last time you talked to someone in real life?

he's the guy who pooped on the field right?

So he says.

Now he poops out of his mouth.

Got drunk the day before England games and now complains about English players not being professional enough.

Good bloke

Tweets/talks about politics far too fucking much.

more like Gary "have sex with the kids" Lineker

good lad

triggers snowflakes easily

When did the left turn against the working man lads?

When they discovered they can quite easily just import guaranteed votes for their side.

>massive defections from the working class to UKIP/Trump

I detect a flaw in their master plan.

probably the last truly good striker england gave

Nah prime Rooney was a monster, prime Owen was very good as well its just his prime didn't last very long before Liverpool broke his fragile little body

when was the last time you spoke to someone off the UC Berkeley plantation?

>UKIP
>massive anything

>

He shags crisps

His brother is a shady nonce who gives pills to girls of dubious age in his seedy nightclubs.

"I'm Gary Lineker, and I have DirectTV"

"I'm sleazy Gary Lineker, and I have cable"

Well he did show on live tele in his pants.

>shat on pitch

Champagne socialist tosspot. It's ironic because I bet 90% of football fans disagree with his views. The other 10% being the buys-M&S-sandwiches-to-bring-to-the-game crowd (mostly Arsenal / Chelski "fans")

Kek

>he thinks the liberal left aren't snowflakes who cry every time a sad little brown child is told that there's a thing called immigration law
Oh my days

That's the thing. The modern left represents the technocratic establishment, and the right represents the concerns of the working class. Quite a reversal to be honest.

Massive referendum win.

Shearer, Owen, Fowler, Wright, Collymore were all post-Lineker.

lol

literally everyone with any education is socially liberal

t. undergraduate

>the right represents the concerns of the working class
>this is what Sup Forums believes

no theres just nobody with a shred of intelligence or knowledge that would advocate getting literally seethingly angry over the fact that people exist in the world with darker skin than yours

>people ITT really think people like Trump and Farage are for the working man

I'm having a laugh

Do the left anymore??

They seem more preoccupied with minority issues and identity politics, LGBT rights, etc.

Please be careful throwing around words like "left" and "right", which can have severely different meanings depending on the country.

stop getting your information from Sup Forums, facebook, and mainstream media outlets.

while they dont write it off completely, there is no serious politician prioritizing any SJW agenda over other shit.

its manufactured outrage that both the left and right gobble up gleefully and debate constantly, producing maximum advertising and affiliate marketing shekels

>the left literally still believes that they represent the working class
How'd that turn out in November for you?

>he is so brainwashed by modern liberalism that he doesn't take one second to think about the fact that different groups of people living in your country wield political power, and the larger these minority groups are, the more political power they wield

I don't give a shit that brown people exist. I just don't want them in my fucking country.

(Unless they're educated and have high-value skills, then they can come, as long as they have a job offer first. It's the mass immigration of unskilled migrants I care about the most.)

>there is no serious politician prioritizing any SJW agenda over other shit.
So you literally have just been living in your own little bubble for the last year or so haven't you?

What information are you talking about FFS?

I'll but it to you again - do the left represent the working class anymore?

>its manufactured outrage that both the left and right gobble up gleefully and debate constantly

Did you bother reading his whole post, milkmouth?

kek

>there is no serious politician prioritizing any SJW agenda over other shit

LOL, so sacrificing our economy and safety to help out unskilled, unvetted literal whos who hate our culture isn't an SJW agenda?

False

tfw every brown person who receives social welfare is plotting the downfall of america

>Unless they're educated and have high-value skills
>he says from his college dorm room using a laptop his parents bought

I really enjoy the reasoning of most people here.

people I agree with = shining beacons of society
people I disagree with = redditors/poltards (depending which side you're on)

Keep at it.

Who here thinks both the right and left are retarded?

>okay so PART of his post was wrong, but maybe the other part wasn't!

No, it was all wrong.

The poor do wield massive influence by collectively controlling a whopping

le not as cool as his brother man

AKA living the dream

Oh yeah I forgot Trump wrote an executive order saying "anybody darker than chestnut colour can't come - and those who are here will be deported"

People in a country have a right to close their borders to whoever they wish. They have zero obligation to let others in. Visiting a country is a privilege, not a right (I'd love to go to America but I know that I have to be able to offer something if I want a green card). This is the case all around the world - if you want to emigrate to another country you have to go through their official channels and get a visa that allows you to live/work there.

At this point in human history, the working classes in developed countries are getting shafted. Middle class twats like you say "yeah, refugees welcome, woo! Nation of immigrants (oh yeah apart from the eugenic selection at Ellis Island, oh yeah and apart from the Chinese Exclusion Act that was in place for 61 years from 1882 to 1943), woo!"

Because it doesn't affect you. You are lucky enough to have had a good education. You can likely still get a job. You don't live in the poorest areas where lots of people from foreign countries / cultures who despise your nation and have no interest in integrating have decided to settle (well, some of the more extreme of you leftist students do - the really self-sacrifical ones - but most will just buy a sari and think that makes them "cultured or whatever")

Nobody wants large groups of unskilled immigrants, apart from wealthy employers that can employ them for dirt cheap wages, thus exploiting them, and causing competition for the native-born population looking for a job.

I thought the left didn't want a ruthless free-market race to the bottom? Hm. Really makes ya think.

>laptop
Yeah, I bought this laptop mate, and my last one, using money from this thing I had called a job. It's where you exchange your labour for financial renumeration. But a lib like you has probably never heard of one of them have you?

>fighting for the rights of the poor
>then calling someone else poor

fuck off tarquin

They're both shitbird manlets.

P2PBSH

I swear everyone is a snowflake these days.

Everyone is triggering everyone else and if you say anything against their option they can't counter so just label you

the left and right are just as bad as each other

Lel.

>the left and right are just as bad as each other
They're not though are they? I mean, the right certainly display a thinskin on occasion, particularly on Sup Forums, but let's not pretend their hysterical overreaction is in any way, shape or form comparable to that of the left.

how many refugees did he take in?

Used to be model nice guy. Twitter turned him into an assravaged SJW template along with J.K Rowling and Eddie Izzard.

Kek see a snowflake gets triggered. You and your counterparts on the left are a joke.

I called him poor where?

You do realise me saying he hasn't had a job is me calling him RICH don't you?

Are you genuinely dense?

>They seem more preoccupied with minority issues and identity politics, LGBT rights, etc.
Where did Corby ever mention faggots or niggers?

Immigration is either irrelevant or net benefit for economy. There is data about it ... unless you want to run with muh alternative facts. You could bitch about "I don't want to live next to scary brown people" but economically there is simply no way around it unless you do something about your shitty productivity and lack of automation. Funny enough it goes for both UK and US of A.

While it's true that neither give a fuck about the working class, there isn't anyone else who actually does.

None, but he wants you to take in 10

And don't stop subscribing to BT Sport™

Wouldn't want old Gazza to miss a month's few million bob would we now?

>he gets triggered by people answering OP's question
Wew lad

Start using arguments please

You have no self awareness, very impressive.

I like how he triggered Sup Forums fags but other than that, he's pretty unremarkable and boring.

It's not their just don't give a fuck about them, their policy ideas are bound to actively harm the working class. Who do you think will bear the burden when global warming kicks in?

Corbyn is obsessed with which pot a tranny can piss in

>Immigration is either irrelevant or net benefit for economy.
Nope, you're wrong.

And why is it lefties only care for the muh economics argument when discussing immigration?

Have a look at how some conservatives here react if you dare criticise monarchy or the army. Or of course pol and anything race related, particularly interracial sex. The right have done a better job pretending they don't have plenty of shit they react like giant babies about though.

They're all embarrassing crybabies trying to out virtue signal each other while reasonable people in positions of any power to see how shit actually works on an intranational level are bricking themselves at the destruction these 'people' can bring by moving off their useless arses and voting. Dumb turks vote erdogan, dumb Americans vote trump or abstain weeping about bernie, dumb brits vote ukip or snp depending on nationality, dumb pinoys vote duerte, dumb germans go afd, dumb frogs go le pen and so on.

There is absolutely no substantial positive change in GDP per capita resulting from immigration.

That isn't an argument

>Immigration is either irrelevant or net benefit for economy.

Try telling that to people who have lost their jobs.

High-skilled immigration is good.

Low-skilled immigration is bad.

>react like giant babies about though.
By posting heated words on a board? How does that compare to lefty arsepain when they're getting people sacked and criminalised, or stomping around town smashing shit up and setting fire to cars in the name of "democracy"?

Economically there isnt a good argument against immigration. All the recent here suppressed low wages by 1% over the past decade and raisee all other wages. There was a boe paper on it. Of course, migration isnt just an economic argument, but it is very much a benefit economically. The proverbial trillion dollar bill on the sidewalk.

Does it benefit the average citizen or just a nations gross output

What do you think the tea party was and how do you classify marches by the edl? What do you think about supreme court judges being called enemies of the people etc?

Even if I was to say economically there's an argument for more immigration, that doesn't mean you can flood the country with people from outside. I might be remembering incorrectly, but here the magic number where you're considered to be contributing is something like 30k. Which a lot of the low-skilled immigration do not reach.

>Lack of automation
It won't be too long before lorries, trains and some other infrastructure will be driverless. With UBI getting a few trials accross the continent hopefully governments will start making it easier for businesses to automate.

At the moment though lots of places still have accounting departments of say 8 people even though there are solutions that could mean you only need 1 or 2 people.

Please do try and give me an argument though because I think it will be funny

It's a benefit to business owners with a sudden pool of cheap labour but it ain't a benefit for those at the bottom of society who suddenly face much more competition when trying to find a job

>but it is very much a benefit economically.

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11209234/Immigration-from-outside-Europe-cost-120-billion.html

As stated it helped raise all peoples wages aside from the very very lowest decile. And that was lowered by 1 percent. Then factor in the tax base and how this migration is younger and not as much of a burden on public services as the native pop, then it still benefits even the lowest paid because of the tax base going to schools, nhs, tax credits etc.

This is all specifically uk based, but most economic theory about migration says similar for the world.

> Dumb turks vote erdogan, dumb Americans vote trump or abstain weeping about bernie, dumb brits vote ukip or snp depending on nationality, dumb pinoys vote duerte, dumb germans go afd, dumb frogs go le pen

Those dumb people voting for their own security! God, how dare they!

How dare they not roll over and die like we want them to!

How dare other people try and do the best for themselves - only *I* am allowed to do that! Grr!

Marches by the EDL? You mean those ones where the "lefty" UAF turn up and start fights?

None of those things were devised out of some over sensitive weirdos incapable of accepting that not everyone agrees with them.

Well, to be fair I don't follow him THAT closely but all the stuff I did hear from him was about the economy and getting the poor unfucked. Sure, some of his ideas are outdated but still better than "fuck the poor" line from Tories one would think.

>nap.edu/catalog/23550/the-economic-and-fiscal-consequences-of-immigration
There are more, so feel free to use google.

>And why is it lefties only care for the muh economics argument when discussing immigration?
Because unlike "muh scary brown people" muh economics is a very clear topic with a clear answer, not some feelz bullshit.

>Try telling that to people who have lost their jobs.
They do live in an economically stronger country even if their position isn't necessary better. The question wasn't whether immigration is good for poor people but whether it's good for the economy. Whether good economy is good for most people is a more tricky question.

Although even jobless poorfags probably still profit from immigration, since it's less "lazy poor people" and more "scary brown people". The most vulnerable people will always get blamed.

>Have a look at how some conservatives here react if you dare criticise monarchy or the army.
You mean call you a nasty name on the web? Bless.

Look at how lefties react when you don't bake them a fucking cake, or oppose gay marriage, or criticise Islam.

>telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11209234/Immigration-from-outside-Europe-cost-120-billion.html
Seems to have a sketchy methodology.

>Experts from University College London also said native Britons made a negative contribution of £591 billion over the 17 years – because of the country’s massive deficit.
Going by the study only EU migrants contribute while Brits and brown people are all a drain.

>There are more, so feel free to use google
See>not some feelz bullshit

Like the social and cultural impact of immigration? Just ignore that, right?

If these immigrants are so good, why does Mexico not want them? Why wouldn't these countries try to keep them in?

Lump of labour fallacy, crack open an econ textbook sometime.

>sketchy methodology.
You mean you cannot accept the fact you're incorrect so dismiss it entirely?

What part of Turkey are you from, btw?

sports

>pay $95.00 to read a book

Kek. What a shifty Kraut.

Generally because they have shit institutions that don't allow them to contribute. But let's not pretend that many poorer countries are concerned about brain drain effects of loose migration policies, or even just loss of unskilled labour from the type of person willing to live in a different country to try to make their life beter.

Ok I temper what I say slightly. Admittedly when I think of migration now its all wrapped up in the debate so I focus on eu migration. Non eu, particularly migration linked to bringing over family members can definitely be burdensome economically, or from those who have a lot of children etc

To me this is the great irony of much of the brexit debate and reasoning. The migrants most seem to be concerned about and one that is actually economically burdensome for the state wss the one we could control anyway.

>You mean you cannot accept the fact you're incorrect so dismiss it entirely?
Hey, I am just saying. Going by this study you're a massive drain on the economy, just like your Paki neighbour and only couple EU migrants keep the whole shit afloat.

Also the study is here: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ecoj.12181/abstract

>from 1995 to 2011, immigrants from the European Economic Area (EEA) have made a positive fiscal contribution, even during periods when the UK was running budget deficits, while Non-EEA immigrants, not dissimilar to natives, have made a negative contribution. For immigrants that arrived since 2000, contributions have been positive throughout, and particularly so for immigrants from EEA countries. Notable is the strong positive contribution made by immigrants from countries that joined the EU in 2004.
So basically Polish plumbers are great, while English and Indian ones are useless.

You can easy find the study with google too. I didn't want to link to a newspaper because of the potential muh fake news bitching.

Here you go: wsj.com/articles/immigration-does-more-good-than-harm-to-economy-study-finds-1474568991

Leave the racism out. no need to be edgy

>how do you classify marches by the edl?

How dare the working classes of Luton get angry when South Asian gangs start raping their daughters, sisters, and nieces!

HOW DARE THEY!

BEND OVER WHILE WE CULTURALLY ENRICH YOU!

>Just ignore that, right?
You can always discuss them with your Sup Forums friends, and with some understanding of history, you'd say that these are positive too, it's just a topic that is way more complex and requires much more time. While something like muh economy is a clear cut yes or no question.