Lmao fucking faggots

lmao fucking faggots

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that's pathetic

Its a relatively old t shirt of that helps it at all. I'm pretty sure it's over a year old and maybe almost 1.5 years old

Is border control why they hate him so much? The big issue is maintaining a country's already existing boundaries? I never got this. You could call him sexist or power hungry or whatever, and whether I agree or disagree, you can make a good argument either way, but unless you're an ancom/ancap, what's wrong with maintaining border control?

>Pizza thrash band makes edgy shirt for the sake of being edgy and pissing people off
>It pisses people off

I can't imagine caring about a fucking crossover thrash band's t-shirt

best thing about municipal waste is definitely their subtlety

just got my dick sucked lol

so what are you guys gonna do about it

Apparently you're racist if you don't want undocumented people flooding into your country on a daily basis. Liberals are truly clueless. It's also insulting to the many Americans every year that go through the proper channels to become legal Americans (not an easy process).
It's also funnny how exactly 0 of these crybabies that want open borders threatened to move to Mexico if Trump won, but Canada instead.

That band banked so much on that shirt. They're probably still counting the money from its first week of sales.

>Sup Forums - Music

They are a band you fucking newfag

I'm going to respond to your post as if you aren't trolling. You have to recognize that Donald's wall proposition (now a meager fence proposition) only represents antipathy towards Mexicans.

How do we know this? Well, the fastest growing illegal immigrant population is Indians, flying over here legally on some kind of visa, and then overstaying the visa. That's a problem that a wall will not solve.

So the wall is just a way to say "fuck you" to Mexico, which resounds greatly with his idiotic, illiterate base. But really, this is all about trade. Now, most non-idiots recognize that trade is a generally good thing that results in cheaper goods made more efficiently. But nu-Republicans are threatened by trade because they are unskilled idiots scraping by on jobs given to them that they are inefficient in. Inefficiency equates higher prices, which equates a lower standard of living.

Leftists, not being illiterates, not being antiquated factory operators, disapprove of this entire boondoggle.

Can someone photoshop this on Baron? Also while he's wearing a suit.

But the wall is a much easier solution. And of course Mexico is paying for it. Just the fact he said it has pushed crossings down 50% and sometimes as low as 70% down. It is indisputably the easiest solution even if it isn't out biggest problem.

It's interesting that you say that Mexico is paying for the wall when Donald himself has admitted that taxpayers will pay for the wall. He says Mexico will pay at an unspecified later date.

lmao triggered

By the way, Barron is autistic. Not disputable. Just letting you all know. Full disclosure.

>He says Mexico will pay at an unspecified later date.
Yeah like I said. Mexico will pay for it. That's the most important thing.

So? It's never stopped this place from making jokes about it.

But that's just the thing. Just like Republicans insisting that they will replace Obamacare at a later date after they repeal it, proves that they do not have the political capital to actually deliver on what they have promised.

If they did have the capital, they would do it right away, right? In any case, Congress has not allocated any money to this idiotic wall in the budget this year.

I hate Donald Trump but I think we should leave Barron alone.

>meager fence
Why would you write so much text when you start with a statement letting everyone know that you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about? The fence and wall are entirely separate things and the wall is literally being worked on right now. There are pictures of the construction online and I assure you it has not been downgraded to a fence.

>If they did have the capital, they would do it right away, right?
Not at all.
>In any case, Congress has not allocated any money to this idiotic wall in the budget this year.
The session isn't over yet. The new budget is still being out together.

Border patrol has said from day one that they do not want a wall and may have the authority to not accept a wall. Trump just said "wall" but it's actually a fence for numerous reasons. A wall does not have a single advantage and tons of disadvantages.

>Border patrol has said from day one that they do not want a wal
Source

Among other reasons, they have to see through it. Literally have to. Not want to. If they wanted a wall then they would already have one. Fences work best.

>The only walls we build are walls of death
What does that even mean?

It literally a type of dancing e.g. moshing

wow it's not like metal bands haven't done that before trump
fuck Sup Forums

this fucking guy

Right. No source. Because that claim is bullshit. I live in San Diego, I'm literally 10 minutes from the border right now and know many border patrol. They enjoy their job and don't not want a wall.

And being see through has been a plan from the beginning. Check out any of the proposed prototypes. They are all see through. It was literally never proposed to be a solid concrete wall. Really, educate yourself before just saying things.

>getting butthurt about some random fags not like your president

Lmao Sup Forumsfags are such pathetic snowflakes. They call obama obongo and nigger for 8 years, but as soon as someone doesnt like cheeto man they want their safe space :(

nice lol

I mean you sound like the only butthurt one in this thread tbqh...

Yeah because I'm not gonna dig for you. If youre so adamant on sourcing then show me these prototypes. Arent you really just being anal about Trump being wrong that he should have simply said fence? How is a wall more effective than a fence?

Because fence and wall are semantics. We could sit here and argue all day about the differences between a fence and wall. You keep using the word to try to delegitimize it. Call this a fence if it makes you happy, but I guarantee if you saw this in person you wouldn't call it that. And yes I know ladders exist, because I know that's your next argument, but I guarantee you lugging a ladder across the desert isn't happening 1/100th as often as you'd like to pretend. 90% of Mexicans are not crossing this thing and that makes it an effective wall.

>Because fence and wall are semantics.
That's what I just fucking said in the sentence before the one you responded to. I'm literally not even reading the rest of your literal garbage.

>get BTFO
>yeah whatever I can't hear you

Yeah I actually read the rest of it and hope to God you think you're talking to someone else and even then I've still caught you in another big one. Either way you are very obviously more comfortable on Sup Forums or maybe Reddit where everyone has littlenames and numbers so you can have the argument YOU want to have instead of the argument thats actually happening. Otherwise get help. I'm serious. You need fucking help.

>Triggered by a crossover band shirt
My fucking sides, if it's pissing off faggots like you then they did a good job.

>discussion while being emotional = being pissed off

Sometimes I wonder how people like you interact with others.

LMAO what

It's now very obvious my identity was mistaken. I should be more careful to not directly reply to someone when chiming in on an argument. I should just simply make the post.

Shit retro-thrash/crossover. No wonder they need gimmick shit like this.

Power Trip shits all over them from a skyscraper

Yo, they ain't even lying. I saw them once with gwar and sure enough during their set they were pretty insistent that we got a wall of death going.

America is a ill nation, the fact that someone out there can unironically support Trump never fails to amaze me

Yeah bro we should tear down the borders and let everyone in. Fuck the economy that shit doesn't matter. Free weed and college and $30 minimum wage for everybody when Bernie wins 2020!

not a racist, but a nationalist. which is a stance a band like this would mock.

Any band "mocking nationalism" is cringe as fuck.

punk and metal tend to be pretty cringy

Nationalism is cringe in itself.

The fact that you think that having social driven policies is a bad thing is hilarious, "Fuck the economy", hahah yeah get fucked to make the shareholders richer if you want to idc lol. Also how can you think having a more multicultural society, increasing wages and legalizing weed are bad things when you're passed 14

Nothing wrong with this t-shirt, it is impossible to be a Donald Trump fan without having Baron levels of retardation. You see, Trump is anti-elite, which just means anti-intellectual. Why is being elite a bad thing? Who wants to admit to being an average Joe? Trump supporters do, and they think having a incompetent useless person in office is the best way to have all the useless incompetent people's problems addressed. Very confusing way of thinking

Yeah that t-shirt is embarrassing. But so is your post.

Cry moar Sup Forumscuck.

If you can write in cogent, complete sentences like that, then what are you doing on this board filled with children and illiterate manchildren?

>But the wall is a much easier solution.
It isn't a solution. A wall can be overcome extremely easily and inexpensively, and there are already existing walls at some portions of the border, which have already been circumvented by drug cartel operations.

Trump's border wall with Mexico is a worthless vanity project that will eat up taxpayer money, if it even gets built at all, the case for which I have extreme doubts.

Yeah, loving and supporting the country you live in is way cringey.

>And yes I know ladders exist, because I know that's your next argument, but I guarantee you lugging a ladder across the desert isn't happening 1/100th as often as you'd like to pretend.

An angle grinder will cut right through that thing and those are cheap and portable. If anyone knows how to use power tools it's Mexicans.

I'm not sure if you're just lazy when you debate Trump supporters online, but I wouldn't leave yourself open in the future by appealing to economic efficiency in the course of implying leftists can't tie their own shoes because their massive brains are too top heavy to allow them to bend down. As if the left's supposed love of efficiency is what makes them support minimum wage, more entitlement spending, and approximately 9 million other interventionist policies. Not sure what your exact persuasion is, but let's remember the most mainstream leftist economic school (Keynesianism) literally endorses burying dollar bills in the ground and paying workers to dig them up as a method to spur the economy. How efficient.

>not understanding mexico has to trade with us
>not understanding that 80% of mexican products are imported to america
>not understanding we are mexicos economy

also on an even more retarded note

>not realizing illegals use public schools and other services provided by tax payer dollars
>not realizing that illegals take home more money than legal immigrant because they dont pay 8,400 in taxes every year
>not realizing illegals kids get free college for being illegal
>not realizing its payed for with your tax dollars
>being okay with this

honestly I have to wonder how does it feel to be this stupid? because I have never in 22 years of life met anyone who even comes close to you.

you talk about efficiency like you have any idea what it is, but its so clear that you can't grasp what it is because you are letting people take money from you for nothing. whats worse is you're totally okay with it. so since you're so fucking stupid how about you give me 500 dollars because that's probably what you're throwing away anyway.

I love how liberals have the power to willfully ignore reality. Like how they totally ignore the rock solid plan for Mexico indeed paying for the wall, that has existed for almost a year and a half.

assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Trump is a businessman, and a really damn successful one at that, and hate him all day long if you want, but stop pretending he doesn't get shit done and do what he says he's going to do.

Mexico doesn't have a choice. to simply put it Mexico cant afford to piss off the united states. if they do they're economy will fucking crumble. an embargo would ruin them so they'll pay for it, or fall into anarchy.

>Trump is a businessman
Stop right there, Trump is not a CEO, this is a guy who lost money running casinos and investing in real estate. His businesses are tied up into his inheritance. He's not John D Rockefeller, he's a trust fund kid who picked really easy investments and still lost money on them because of his own financial mismanagement.

> LITERALY NOT EVEN
>LITERALY WOW
you lost get over it

>he hasn't batted 100 so he isn't successful
really, could you be more delusional and in denial? jesus christ

>defending a trust fund kid given millions + millionaire contacts from birth being a "successful" businessperson
Lmao so much for the "American Dream"

Every thrash metal band talks about politics in the same "rich people are evil" fashion.

The guy has never taken a risky investment on anything that could have really made him money, he's lost money on things that any other businessman would consider a safe bet.

His entire strategy is taking out massive loans, fucking up on his investments, and not paying them back, while threatening to bury his investors even more.

If you actually lived in NY or New Jersey you would already know this, I have friends who work on Wall St. and the guy is regarded as a joke.

Don't bother, you're talking to some idiot who bought the bait that tried to pawn him off as some self-made business mogul.

Trump has burned some serious bridges with investors over the years and gone bankrupt even when given an astounding amount of money.

>Leftists, not being illiterates, not being antiquated factory operators, disapprove of this entire boondoggle.

there's literally nothing wrong with this
sorry if that TRIGGERS some teenage trump supporters ;)

unironically yes

A shirt with the flag on it, totally same thing as the original shirt!

nice lol

>the classic I have no argument post

I know I'm 7hrs late to this thread, but to answer your question in 4 words: Europe, California, Colorado, respectively.
These are not new things.
They have been tried.
They have been tried in nations better off economically than ours.
They did not work.
They will not work.
>yeah, they will
t. Venezuela
also t. Sweden, who was actually doing okay until well.. it stopped doing okay

Even if I was the most anti immigrant person in the world and the mere sight of a Mexican made me throw up I would still think the wall is a terrible idea. Simply because it would do nothing to stop illegal immigration and would bankrupt the countRy2 if it actually went as trump planned

I'm an ancom

nice lol

>trade is a generally good thing that results in cheaper goods made more efficiently
>leftists generally agree
LIBERALS

...

>would bankrupt the country
nigger what

Can we all agree that this thread very quickly devolved from being kind of /mu related into a full on /pol level waste of time shit throwing argument?

Okay not literally, but spending billions on a wall, and then having to spend near another billion every year to maintain a mostly symbolic piece of infrastructure seems like a stupid idea to me. Am I crazy?

metal is explicitly right wing. fuck these faggots. thrash is gay and dead and was always cringey music for children

>metal is explicitly right wing

source

nice lol

Right wingers are usually shunned in the metal scene (and pretty much everywhere that isnt a Christian, right wing specific, or country scene)

>How do we know this? Well, the fastest growing illegal immigrant population is Indians, flying over here legally on some kind of visa, and then overstaying the visa. That's a problem that a wall will not solve.

Where is the proofs?

Also the largest illegal population is Mexican, get your head out of your ass. But they're being deported, despite the unconstitutional "sanctuary cities".

Take your feelings out of it. Illegal immigration is a serious issue that harms any country more than it helps it. Literally every civilized country in the world has an established and secure border. There is no reason America shouldn't have one as well.

>comparing the treatment of Donald Trump, perhaps the most widely reviled person alive (due to a constant onslaught of hatred from mainstream media and subsequently social media) to Mr. Smiley Eloquent Black Man, who only ever caught criticism from Fox pundits

Also, stop trying to reappropriate the terms "snowflake" and "safe space", it isn't working.

>Also how can you think having a more multicultural society is a bad thing when you're past 14

I don't know, just look at all of the places in Europe where the forced multiculturalism is not working and is just resulting in crime and general disturbance of the peace.

>Illegal immigration is a serious issue that harms any country more than it helps it.

I agree.

But you do understand that building a wall is going to be a drop in the ocean of stopping illegal immigration, the most common method of illegal immigration is overstaying visas.

Maybe if you would take your feelings out of it you would understand that just because someone thinks that spending a massive amount of money for a tiny impact is dumb doesn't mean they're against illegal immigration

lol nice

Doesn't matter. Like I said, we are one of the only civilized. countries without a strong border wall. Even Mexico has a strong southern border wall. There is literally nothing wrong with making it more secure.

everybody in this thread is an idiot except for me

I'm living in Berlin next to a refugee accomodation, these guys are just calm and peaceful, what you're saying is just false sperglord

story of my life

There isn't a border wall between Mexico and Guatemala