i used to be a Muslim. Ask me anything.
I used to be a Muslim. Ask me anything
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what made u convert?
Reported to FBI for being a terrorist
what are you now?
You're still a shitskin Abdul. doesn't change anything
have you ever had sex with a goat?
do you have organs?
How can we cure your brothers?
Well I was born into a Muslim family, and I was into mythology as a kid, greek, aztec, persian, all kinds of magical stories and whatnot, but I always just thought of them as stories. As I grew up, I took my parents rituals and stories in the same way, i just didnt say it out loud because i knew thaht would piss off my mother. I dont know if i ever really believed.
I am an agnostic atheist. There probably is no god, but being strictly reasonable, you can't disprove it. But these old books aren't proof of anything.
How mean.
Lately?
>agnostic
>atheist
pick one faggot
Education, in the long run.
Education destroys religion usually.
>"I don't know if god(s) exist, but I do not believe in their existence"
>Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.
There you go, you cumguzzling fuckweed.
that is atheist
How does it feel to take your burqa off?
experience and education. but education might even fail. i think experience of life is the real deal.
Good. I can let my hair free while i go down on your father.
How did you survive being a suicide bomber?
lmao
I worked hard, believed in myself, and followed the words of the Jew dog Jerry Seinfeld.
>Keep your head up in failure, and your head down in success.
but OP, do you have organs?
Call your mother just to see how shes doing. It will make her day.
that doesnt answer my question
Tell me a bit about yourself, and I may answer.
What are your intrests? What could you talk about for an hour?
What do you think of the current liberal double standard of liberals hating Christianity for its associated with mysoginy and homophobia when Islam literally views women as property and homosexuals as infidels?
this wasnt part of the deal OP
So we often call ourselves exmuslims, to make a point, and to raise awareness to other Muslims who don't realize 1. you can leave Islam. 2. Exmuslims arent shit people.
Now Exmuslims often have an issue with a group that has a horrible term that i hate, "the regressive left". Certain liberals think Islam is a misunderstood peaceful religion when its not. Dawkins had a talk cancelled just yesterday or so for criticizing ISlam.
Basically education. More people need to understand Islam from an academic, theological stance so its more widely understood that Islam truly is incompatible with Western values.
This sounds seelf serving, but I think exmuslims need more support. We can fuck shit up, we know this religion well, we know how shit works.
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>I was born into a Muslim family
noone is born religious, it is either a choice or brainwashing
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I'm sure glad you weren't brainwashed
wew
but i was. my catholic parents indoctrinated me from the day i was born up till my early teens when i realised what was happening
How do I ask a Muslim guy out for a date?
I'm American and live in America.
Oh, I'm a male also.
>implying that religious people dont continue to choose their religion in this day and age.
me thinks you might be brainwashed
Who did 9/11
I always found hijabs kinda sexy. Do you wear any religious clothing as a fashion choice, or does the religious association ruin it for you?
The Jews
Everyone knows that dumbass
your a dumb fucking nigger and I hope you hate yourself.
Did your family shun you for not continuing to be a Muslim?
brainwashed by whom?
Edgy atheists
nah m8 most atheists are even more obnoxious than religious retards
Just report him to the local muslims community and he gets shunned or worse. this is one of the reasons why muslim faith is so strong.
Apostates should be killed, and are killed or attacked with acid etc etc.
Any house that is a not a house of Islam is a house of war
Edgy, Newfag.
Hang out with him, see whats up, look good, be confident, funny, helpful, smart. Then see whats up;)
Mostly saudis. Most of the Muslim world is broke, exceept for oil rich arab countries. Guns and bullets and all cost money, and if you follow the money trail, it oft leads to Saudi.
>Do you wear any religious clothing as a fashion choice, or does the religious association ruin it for you?
i am stuck in a muslim country, sometimes i have to wear muslim clothes but its fine.
My mother doesn't know, my father doesn't care, I got my siblings to leave islam. If my mother knew, it would break her heart. f extended family knew, id be shunned. If the public knew, depending on who, i could be killed or they might not give a fuck.
by those fucking scientists proving that the earth is not flat and it is more than 5,000 years old even though the bible says otherwise
OP do you have organs? why do you ignore my question?
Is there a set to this image?
you worried about being killed by hardcore Muslims that frown apon apostasy
This is actually the thing. A lot of Muslims in the West don't even know you can BE an exmuslim. Its just such an alien concept, to leave Islam, which is why I think Exmuslim awareness is important.
Yeah, I'm agreeing. He is brainwashed by them
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Being muslim is great, it tells you you are the best of ppl, it tells you you can raid rape and pillage, it even encourages it. it tells you the world belongs to muslims and they have a nepotism community supported by oil money.
Arabs dont need to be brainwashed, it is a political / religious / tribal organisation that is supportive to its ppl and expands.
Most muslim males in europe grow up non religious just fuck around with white girls. then when they hit 25 or so they get married with some arab cousin of thier they have shipped over and marry to so she gets to stay in europe and breed many children on the cost of the caucasians.
You are thinking muslims are like christians, a bunch of dweeps believing in some fairy tale.
Islam is a method of life, if you follow it you feel a lot better and are better of then following globalism like a drone..
Being muslim is better then being a globalist citizen. honestly if i was arab i would be muslim too.
Fuck this socity killing it self, its not a hard choice.
Being muslim is better and healtier, why do you think women like to get hitched up with smelly muslims?, thats right its a better life and women are happier just having kids and taking care of the household.
You are still smelly dumb violent arabs.
Even arabs that are out of touch with islam for generations act like savages.
It all depends on who you define as the Muslim community though. There are a *lot* of Muslims who are pretty relaxed and just go through the motions - cultural Muslims. They however, don't get the airtime that the crazy Muslims do.
OP I feel your pain - I'm a liberal Muslim, but I can see why you left!
And every single new born muslim can turn in to a fundamentalist (radical / crazy).
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>europoor sees pretty hijabi girl
>kick her down for no reason
Why are whites literally this gay? No wonder their countries are being dominated by the muslim race lmao
This is how islam works, you act all nice or you are actually nice, you are nice because there are different kinds of muslims, you have those that breed kids for the sake of islam build happy lives etc etc.
Then there are those that decide to blown themselves up after they have 3 sons and get to go to paradise.
"Give them peace where ever they over it and use the time to build up strength for war."
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the gril is wearing the parka with hood is blond, you have to be a liberal to think the arab bulgarian is "white"
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Thanks for the answer. Be careful.
Look its the liberal cuck group being triggered by ppl talking about muslims and islam.
serious question
all sides agree that several euro countries will become mudslime majority in as little as 25 years, up to 50 years at the absolute max.
>Germany, France, England, Sweden, Belgium
how do pro-immigrant people honestly believe this will play out? by what method will they get along and continue business as usual? do they think we're going to somehow achieve world peace and racial harmony in the next decade?
>I'm a liberal Muslim, but I can see why you left!
I didn't leave because Muslims were mean to me. I left because there is no evidence for Islam, and its morally dubious. The Quran is clear, its not gender neutral, it doesn't take kindly to homosexuals, it has violent punishments, its intolerant to other religions.
You may be libera, but a Liberal Muslim generally means one who doesn't follow the Quran/Sunnah.
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What about the financial question. all these fortune seekers are taking over, who is left to create the fortune?
Very few Turks in Germany have a regular job; about 20%. The other 80% live on the so-called Hartz IV (state social benefits). 70% of their children have no GCSE; they left school before they finished their basic education.
According to the German state benefit system, every adult citizen who possesses the German nationality, unemployed and cannot find an appropriate job, is entitled to get monthly 482 € ($627). Additionally, parents get for each child under 18 years old, 200 € ($261), plus all their monthly expenditures in terms of rent, heating, power, health insurance, and public transport.
lol nice pic
and dubs
>it doesn't take kindly to homosexuals, it has violent punishments, its intolerant to other religions.
As a muslim, why would you be triggered by this?
Why are you promoting globalist fagatory?
Are you a jew larping as a muslim trying to get ppl to convert to consumerism ?
I'm a white western fag. What is the best way to convince a muslim to let me suck his dick? Preferably in keffiyeh or something like it.
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Is it true that regime changed countries overthrown by the US are converted to a different money system?
It's been considered a hypothesis by some that the overthrow of governments has to do with those countries not participating in the petrodollar system.
Is it more satisfying to have an orgasm finessed out of you or to have it pounded out of you? I find that I need to have it pounded out. Some finesse is ok leading up to it, but when it comes down to the moment of truth, pound that shit, whether with dick or finger.
My position is that there are truths in there; but that we need to understand that the Quran was not divinely revealed and that the Sunnah (i.e. the hadith and seerah) have arrived through a process of political and social alteration action on whatever the original source material may have been.
Not to mention that the source material is itself arising in a particular context and draws on traditions that were already extant at the time.
If you believe the Quran was not divinely revealed, then it goes against the core claim of Islam. Why be a Muslim if you don't believe the Quran is the word of god?
There are truths in there, yes, but there are truths in Harry Potter and the Epic of Gilgamesh. There is also a lot of vile horrid shit in the Quran.
>arising in a particular context and draws on traditions that were already extant at the time.
This goes against another claim of Islam that the Quran is perfect and timeless.
BTW , Islam actually was a step backwards in terms of womens rights, in pre Islamic arabia. Look into it , or I can show you some sources.
Greekfag atheist here. That graph is a load of shit. Greece is 98% Orthodox Christian. The Orthodox Church has tremendous political power here. Even immigrants baptize themselves and take on new Christian names to find jobs more easily. To claim that Islam is a threat to Greece is to completely fail to understand the socioeconomic state of this country. So, the rest of the graph is most likely equally bullshit.
Bullshit. There's no linear correlation. The deciding factor seems to be cultural trends, not number of partners.
What is wrong with trying to promote egalitarianism?
I can believe it - although TBH when you're looking at the sub-roman middle east, it is such a fractured mess of traditions that you'd be able to find places where it was both a forward and backward step. But that isn't the point; the point is what direction we go now, not what direction we've been.
Why be Muslim? Because I'm not an atheist or even really agnostic. I also happen to believe that religions are in effect, the human mind working out how to deal with the divine - but that doesn't diminish what value they hold.
If we, as liberals, can filter out the bad and keep the good, then that is a step forward.
We're not equal though...
Truth is all that matters.
If all you do is pick what you consider as "good" from a holy book, you're acknowledging it's bullshit and that you are morally superior to the depicted god.
You may as well read Harry Potter and look for morals there.
I'll have your head you filthy murtad
>t you'd be able to find places where it was both a forward and backward step.
Hmmmm, How was Islam a step forward? Be specific please. I'd say it was a step forward militarily, as Muhammad got warring arab tribes together and spread their rape and pillage and arab supremacy outwards, and its effects still are present today. Umar was more into Arab Supremacy than Islam it seems.
> But that isn't the point; the point is what direction we go now, not what direction we've been.
No, your ideology goes against the Quran. You are to cling to it, not change it reform it or modify/corrupt it. The best Muslims are those who followed the Prophet and the 3 generations after him.
Your ideology is not compatible with the Quran/Sunnah, you are just making shit up as you see fit.
>I also happen to believe that religions are in effect, the human mind working out how to deal with the divine - but that doesn't diminish what value they hold.
What value does Islam hold?
Because of you and your "liberal Muslim" schtick, it fools some into thinking Islam is a reasonable religion whereas it causes the suffering of millions, women and homosexuals today.
>If we, as liberals, can filter out the bad and keep the good, then that is a step forward.
Grow up, be intellectually honest and mature, read and study the quran.
What does the Quran call homosexuals? Ignorant, transgressors, shameless.
Quran 24/2. :The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.
As an adult, take your head out of the sand and study the Quran and just Bukhari yourself.
Come on, a 14th century book, have you even read it yourself with tafsir/exegesis?
Truth is the most important thing - not the only thing that matters. Primacy is not exclusivity.
It's only bullshit if you consider its value to be based on the fact that it was revealed via an angel from God.
It comes back to how you view religion; it is my view that religions represent the human effort to understand God. If that is the case, then why not look at the work that has gone before and carry on that effort?
who is this?? vid/sauce.
Islam doesnt view women as property. Fucking westerners you are the ones who see women as property because of your oversexualized way of life. You can't even sell a car without a halfnaked woman posing next to it.
And gays aren't seen as infidels because homosex is seen as a major sin but it doesn't make you a disbeliever
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>Islam doesnt view women as property.
>Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826
>Narrated Sahl bin Sad Saidi: "Allah's Apostle said "If there is any evil omen in anything, then it is in the woman, the horse and the house."
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:111
>“The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses [and does not come], and he spends the night angry with her, the angels will curse her until morning.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 4794;
>Hmmmm, How was Islam a step forward?
Taken out of context. The point I was not "Islam took us forward" but that the sub-Roman world was a patchwork of cultures and practices.
>No, your ideology goes against the Quran.
It goes against the current conservative approach to the Quran. Yep!
>What value does Islam hold?
From a theological point of view, the importance of monotheism.
>"it fools some into thinking Islam is a reasonable religion"
"Islam" is a construct. The conservative version is abhorrent.
>As an adult, take your head out of the sand and study the Quran and just Bukhari yourself.
I've got bukhari, seerah and Ibn Kathir, plus stuff like reliance of the traveler & various works on usul kicking around.
The point is that when you apply critical thought to that, you can see the political influences on things like classifications of hadith. You can see the way that a lot of what people consider to be fixed "Islam" is the work of scholars. You can also see how scholars have essentially monopolized power (on behalf of ruling elites) by setting the rules (I mean ijma...c'mon).
The point is that when you understand this you can tear it down and rebuild. Some people might not want to - some of us do.
If you don't see any value in it - fine, don't!
>Islam doesnt view women as property.
He's right. Islam doesn't view women as property - conservative Islam views *slaves* as property,it views women as vastly inferior.
If you were a true muslim you wouldn't have abandoned your faith scum
I'm sorry. I saw this on /ck/. Ask someone there about it.
Your talking shit.
This graph of yours only shows that something happened in the 80s cause ppl to get divorced. im betting its the feminist movements and entertainment saying "women shouldnt have to settle their whole lives with the same man".
This also increased the revenu of the divorces lawyers which is the highest grossing law field out there . and im guessing this economic shift in this field arises in the 1980`s
There is causation and yes there are cultural influences
*scum*
go to pray kiddo
>highest grossing law field out there
Says a man who has never heard of M&A.