does anyone know any similarpirces that are similar to the second movement of Chichester Psalms by Leonard Bernstein? m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yhnml4DW9g
Blake Rodriguez
Start from Beethoven Sonatas. Some of them are extremely entertaining, they're still very close to contemporary sensibilities. Start from the famous ones (Pathetique, Moonlight, Tempest, Appassionata), listen to them costantly. Notice, the challenge will be appreciating the second movements, which are less pirotecnic and tragic than the 1sts and 3rds ones. Also they're all homophonic, which means that they're not particularly dense (it is more about polish, but most of the times you will be listning one musical idea at a time). Once you can listen to them effortessly from start to finish, listen to his late sonatas, from 29th to 32nd. They're both polyphonic, but they still mostly follow the homophonic logic of his early and middle period. The 29th is probably the hardest to understand, althoug I'm sure you'll istantly love many of its moments. Listen to it a lot: it's his best sonata, and generally one of the peaks of Western culture.
Beethoven's early sonatas should techically be the easiest to listen to (he composed them for his public), but personally since they're so rooted in a taste that is not mine, listening to them was always harder for me: while his late sonatas are esential in nature and can be listened by themselves, his early ones have to be ''translated''. It's more of an acquired taste, imho. Here's the 3rd movement of the Appassionata: youtube.com/watch?v=1yCiFZvjfuU
Also, listen to Ravel, you'll love him, I'm sure of it. Listen to La Tombeau de Couperin, the Piano Concertos and his Sonatine. The Ravel's composition that are harder to listen, imho, are the short impressionist pieces for piano and his songs: listen to them last. Also notice that you can listen to his entire repertoire in 15 hours, so give it a try. You'll get a taste for dissonance, and you'll get used to listen to longer pieces (the skill you need the most at the moment) Ravel's Toccata: youtube.com/watch?v=IbX6NFTyjZw
William Smith
Also drink just a glass of wine when listening to these pieces for the first time, just for that little emotional kickstart. If you're a drug addict, consider to drop drug: they dull you out, stripping classical music from the awe you should give to it.
Jose Stewart
Chopin is God
Nathan Butler
Loading up on opium is the only true way to listen to classical
Austin Harris
This is literally Nietzsche's and Schopenhauer's opinion.
>this is mfw I started the Bruckner symphonies >implying I'd ever sit through them all
Evan Gray
unironically shit taste
Thomas Myers
I'm in love with this execution of BWV 54, I don't know why, maybe it's the harpsichord/piano: youtube.com/watch?v=7tKOzYrdO4I Does something similar with better quality exist? What are the best performances (with decent quality) of Bach's cantatas?
>Ask for recording recs >Get rec'd a ton of shit >End up only listening to one performace Everytime.
Cameron Turner
you listened to his other chamber music? (string quartets, piano trio, octet, list goes on...)
Xavier Lopez
Haydn String quartets and symphonies.
Jayden Jackson
Missing Agalloch
Thomas Robinson
apart from harmonic awkwardness the measures are disjointed, everything is identifiable as belonging to a single phrase, no ambiguity and thus no momentum. many romantic plebs like bruckner, r. strauss or rimsky-korsakoff did this unironically, so now our taste is ruined from being exposed to them and mozart's joke sounds less like a joke.
Ethan Bell
Where did you find the 14th one you were looking for? Or did you just take the recording that was on YouTube that you thought sounded bad?
What does /classical/ think about Book I vs. Book II of WTC? Is one collection "better" than the other, and if so, how?
Tyler Bell
theyre both poopy shite
Xavier Morales
Mozart was just being a snarky, ironic hipster in this one instance. Also, Bruckner's earnest nature blows him out of the water, at least when it comes to composing symphonies.
Owen Reed
Each is unique. I think they should be experienced together, as a complete set rather than individually. Book II does have some pretty good shit though.
Cameron Ortiz
all genius has cheerful sprezzatura. bruckner shares earnest nature with all cattle.
James Reed
Were there any great classical guitar pieces made after the 19th century?
Ethan Baker
i like book 2 more generally but thats just a personal thing. book 1 is still great.
Andrew Morales
this line must have made the man weep in his bovine grave
Wyatt King
Who dares to bugger Herr Bruckner?
Leo Parker
Yeah I figured that. It took me forever to notice the whole tone bit. Whole tones even crop up in Beethoven so nobody is going to be laughing at that nowadays
Cooper Garcia
I just listened to Mozart's musical joke and I laughed my ass off! Hahaha! Oh wait, that was his first 20 piano concertos.
I figured out the best /classical/ workout music. Sped up Beethoven piano concertos and the fast, more metal-sounding movements from his piano sonatas. Any other suggestions?
Logan Ward
Webern's Op. 18.
Oliver Peterson
Yes how about you go fuck yourself and I will watch
Elijah Cooper
>Can't into 20th century you are the trash user
Cooper Gomez
Yeah, about that (in gay voice)
Liam Thompson
That's my favorite century tho. Raut and Messiaen are my favorite composers. I don't like postmodern trash however.
Landon Wilson
>Rautavaara and Messiaen are my favorite composers
This is what happens when Tallis and CLT leave
Josiah King
CLT probably wouldn't give a fuck and Tallis isn't even properly trained in theory so who cares
Colton Carter
Trying way too hard to be contrarion. Those guys are generally respected in these parts
Andrew Morris
Have you actually tried listening to that piece? You'd probably like it. It's like Messiaen and Rautavaara's more wandering sides
initially interesting but then i realized he was just a revivalist LARPer without sprezzatura all the vicious criticism he received was actually legit. schönberg called him a genius, thats another clue.
Christian Butler
when the critique of ideology is just right
Brayden Cruz
Further proof that Schoenberg is underrated.
Nicholas Reyes
Guys what happened to /Comp/ threads. I am asking here because I believe some of them would come here. I am exercising composing and I have questions about harmony but /Comp/ is gone.
Cameron Collins
dunno, they stopped in march or so probably not enough contríbutors
Caleb Gomez
This, /prod/ doesn't know anything but "muh mixing" and farty synths
Carter Sanchez
Aw, shucks.. Guess I'm alone now.
Lucas Hall
there's still talkclassical.com
Jace Cooper
If you want to bring them back you can just make them yourself. The copypasta is in the archived Comp threads.
