>Game of Thrones ending soon >Girls ending soon >Silicon Valley and Veep running low on steam >Ballers is horrible >Vice Principals has one year left >Westworld had a lot of production problems >Vinyl and True Detective were failures
Besides being the only game in town when it comes to miniseries (The Young Pope looks brilliant) , how fucked are they?
Good, now they can replace that shit with great new series from Chase and Simon that are already in the production.
Grayson Hughes
Every jew at HBO should be gassed.
Jason Green
that David Simon show about porn in 70s NYC does look pretty neat. I hope it doesn't fizzle out like his previous shows. also, James Franco could make or break it.
Bentley Gray
FX has taken their spot.
Jace Brooks
Wire 2.0 is coming online
Caleb Harris
HBO ended when Larry David stopped making curb. you should have gotten out awhile ago
Evan Bell
HBO will end when The Leftovers does
Gavin Reyes
>He doesn't know that there's going to be a new season...
Get a load of this feggit.
Easton Richardson
They could save themselves by doing a faithful adaptation of something epic like 100 Bullets or The Boys.
Isaiah Torres
let's hope it's a fitting end.
Ayden Nelson
like 10 years later fuck off nigger
Xavier Hill
Maybe they'll get their stupid heads straight and started doing Generation Kill-like miniseries for all the wars of the 20th century. And stop with the gratuitous nudity shit, it's only harming their stuff.
Julian Thomas
Isn't The Night Of doing well? I saw BEE praise it or someshit.
William Gray
Hopefully The Deuce can capture the same goodness as Boogie Nights
but after Vinyl I'm cautious
Easton Hernandez
I'd be willing to bet that people will praise the Deuce for all the things they bitched about with Vinyl. Purely because David Simon is involved, as opposed to Martin Scorsese
Xavier Robinson
>And stop with the gratuitous nudity shit, it's only harming their stuff. lol gay
Benjamin Nguyen
it's a miniseries so it's over. it just served to reassure that HBO is the only network worth mentioning when it come to miniseries.
Andrew Rogers
You know they're going to milk Game Of Thrones with Prequels
Austin Taylor
I wish they would just bring back Carnivale for seasons 3-6, surely they've got enough money to fund it now, actually who could they get to come back for it?
Carson Anderson
oh shit, david simon should be working on something new. but you can only ask so much from one man.
Jose Torres
he's working on a show that will be out soon called The Deuce about the porn industry in the 70s. The caveat is that it stars James Franco.
Owen Perry
this
ratings are surprisingly high given how relatively little it has been discussed here, but it will be forgotten about quickly,
Grayson Gutierrez
>just at HBO
They've got about a year left to announce 2-3 new shows to hold them down. Not in panic mode yet.
William Rodriguez
It finished but it was good.
Xavier Smith
Revive Carnival, hurry up with the damn Deadwood movie while in the meantime reairing the series.
And remaster Oz for blu ray. I'd be really interested in a female prison show on HBO.
Jordan Russell
holy shit, for HBO? Man, I'm still watching Treme, I've seen the Wire and Generation Kill only.
Hudson Green
>Ballers is horrible
t. numale
Chase Sanders
>>Westworld had a lot of production problems
Shit, is this true? They've been advertising it a lot, and I was actually getting hyped.
Cooper Rivera
Isn't franco like a savant though? He's just been poorly cast for most of his shit, including his LMAO WEED shit?
Charles Cox
>implying Carnival was as good as something wicked this way comes. frankly, next up should be a Dune and Dark Tower adaption tbqhwmymtwmaz
Jack Cook
I heard Larry David is doing another season of curb. That will keep them going while they test out whatever new shows they got coming.
William King
You should be hyped. HBO chose to delay it and work on it more because they knew they messed up. Same thing happened with Game of Thrones.
Hudson Gutierrez
basic cable doesnt have the same production budgets to keep these shows going, look at what's been happening with AMC over the last 5 years. HBO's subscription based buisness model allows them to keep making losses in ways that basic cable cant.
Brandon Ward
It had a number of problems at the beginning of the year and they had to shut down production for awhile. It was initially supposed to be a summer show I believe but now they've had to push it to October. I think the issue was with the writing, which I consider a very bad sign, because I hope the show just doesn't get totally retarded after an amazing first few episodes variety.com/2016/tv/news/westworld-production-shut-down-1201681678/
Owen Johnson
His lmao weed stuff he did willingly. He's one of the guys who have enough money and give little enough shits to only do movies he finds interesting/fun
Carter Evans
Tabboo looks like it coud be a game changer for FX
Isaiah Young
Didn't know ratings tripled between the premiere and the finale. Season 2 pretty much confirmed.
Parker Carter
They delayed Newsroom just to fix it. It's not a bad sign user, just HBO looking to make the best shit they can.
Henry Edwards
The Newsroom was unmitigated trash.
Hunter Robinson
HBO has scrapped stuff that's been in production before too with episodes already shot, they clearly have faith in Westworld
Mason White
>Westworld had a lot of production problems So did GoT.
Luis Murphy
aren't they adapting Foundation?
Jayden Kelly
>reactionary detected
Isaiah Powell
Not him but that's not very reassuring seeing as that show was the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen.
Sort of but not really. That was also a Nolan project but if Westworld hits big then it'll probably never happen because they'll be too busy.
Chase Smith
Referencing that pleb-tier Newsroom rubbish isn't going to convince anyone. Boy, that show was just awful.
Easton Morris
Why are people still talking about this show but not Tanner 88?
Jacob Phillips
Never heard of this but it looks pretty great. Can't find a release date anywhere though - any idea when it's actually going to air?
Leo Parker
Id never heard of this but from the trailer it looks like a tonal mess. Obviously its way to little to judge the show on. Im really interested to see what the shows about and if it can bring the prestiege of being "that" show like AMC had with Mad Men and to a lesser extent Breaking Bad
Andrew Green
People only talk about The Newsroom to trash it because it features Sorkin-level sermonizing about 20 years past its expiration date.
Tanne '88 is like other universally acclaimed HBO series like In Treatment or K Street: It is exactly what you expect it to be on paper
Joshua Martinez
That clip was okay but this moment was the best. Really made me think: youtu.be/UM8wv8QQ-u0
Mason Bailey
it's a miniseries though. all it has to do is tell its story well and it will be fondly remembered, like The Night Of for HBO
Easton Adams
Most people on Sup Forums weren't alive when that show aired.
Benjamin Thompson
A watershed moment? No. But it's not a bad scene. If you don't like the music that's your fault, but the dialogue is fucking great.
>It's a person. A doctor pronounces her dead, not the news.
Evan Wood
This is my biggest question about westworld.. It seems ad if this is a matrix like world meaning the locations you go to don't exist. If that is true why are there physical robots? If the world isnt real why aren'tthey just software. In the trailer we see them being interviewed.
Mason Fisher
>but the dialogue is fucking great. No god dammit that is not great dialogue. It is self-aggrandizing bullshit designed to make assholes who are concerned with their number of Twitter followers feel good about themselves. Simon did the same thing in The Wire's fifth season with his self-insert Augustus Haynes, and it was one giant cringe every time that motherfucker spoke.
Aiden Miller
no the locations are real, presumably in-universe they just bought a bunch of cheap desert land and operate it as a resort. Basically you go there and do whatever you want to the robots while living it up as a cowboy, it's the ultimate fantasy playground for degenerates
Christian Bailey
The locations do actually exist. It's a theme park made up of three "locations" populated by robots that could do anything the "patrons" want.. One is western and one is medieval. I forget the third one. You travel to and from them by train. You should watch the movie, it's very short but well-done for what it was.
Chase Perez
Heeey I know atleast one other person irl who likes Ballers lol. Its my guilty pleasure.
Chase Edwards
>self-aggrandizing
Okay, lay it out user. Spell out how it's self-aggrandizing. Make an actual argument.
Juan Wood
Seems to me HBO is being slowly replaced by Netflix Originals. Am I wrong?
Brandon Jackson
what will their next big hit be?
Ryan James
westworld having had production problems doesn't really affect how it does with audiences or overall, going forward.
right now that's what I'm most looking forward to from them.
The saddest I've been about HBO was when they cancelled Luck
Justin Brown
Is The Deuce going to have a shoe horned shitty mob plot with awful acting?
Blake Kelly
Look at the whole show's premise: A news outlet set two years in the past that behaves with the utmost idealism because Sorkin has 20/20 hindsight and can therefore criticize the likes of CNN and FOX for their reporting gaffs. Every single character on The Newsroom is an idealistic bore and behaves in a matter that couldn't exist anywhere but an Aaron Sorkin production. Nobody on the ACN staff does anything wrong willfully, except for the one interchangeable white guy in season 2 who literally did everything wrong (and him alone to exonerate the other characters).
It's a show that ran on baby boomer pandering and finger-pointing. I'm glad it died quickly.
Matthew Ramirez
I'm preparing for maximum kek with The Deuce, James Franco is playing twins and Maggie Gyllenhaal is a sex worker
Caleb Young
canceling Luck and Enlightened were major errors.
The story behind Luck's cancellation was pretty awesome though. What with David Simon breaking down an edit room door two hours to air with a baseball bat to see Michael Bay hunched the keyboard making last minute changes.
You can't run a show like that unless it's South Park or broadcast news.
Joshua Morales
>James Franco as Vincent Martino and Frankie Martino, twin brothers operating out of Times Square who become fronts for the Mob
>Maggie Gyllenhaal as Eileen "Candy" Merrell, a Times Square sex worker with an entrepreneurial spirit who is drawn into the emerging pornography indust
Juan Reyes
No fucking way. The Americans is GOAT but its ending soon. Other than that they have:
Tyrant >shit The Strain >ridiculous shit American Horror Story >intentionally ridiculous shit Fargo >season two was already a step down American Crime Story >it's going full SJW and doing a Hurricane Katrina story next season instead of a court case Man Seeking Woman >a fucking sketch show about dating You're The Worst >the most fucking millenial show on TV Archer >stopped being funny after season 3 yet we're trudging towards 10 seasons somehow Always Sunny >been on forever
tl;dr: Americans aside, it's a largely shit channel
Christopher Barnes
>implying I'm wrong >implying Daddario's anime tiddies and lack of ass made True Detective any better >implying some random scene in BoB of a soldier fucking some French girl adds anything to the series >implying seeing Steve Buscemi fuck his whore for 30 seconds before an actual scene with plot development starts is necessary I won't mention GoT because GoT is shit regardless. Sex and nudity can be meaningful and add to the show/film, but HBO it seems are dead-certain on filling up some titty quota for every single one of their shows.
Luke Long
>someone would pay for sex with Maggie Gyllenhaal
Easton Foster
Please no. I just finished The Boys, and while it was a good comic, it would be a terrible show. Too much of it was just goofing on mainstream comics.
Benjamin Bell
You're mostly right. Tyrant is a chore to get through. The Strain is so bad it's good. Not a fan of American Horror Story's recent seasons. I love Fargo and and American Crime Story though. I have faith both shows will have strong returns next year.
My main worry is that Taboo won't live up to the hype, and their new capeshit series will be too successful to the point that it changes their agenda entirely.
Christian Wood
Netflix Originals are good, but none are as kino as HBO. They don't have a TD S1, Wire, Sopranos, or Veep yet.
Hunter Cruz
I think you've got both names mixed up brah
Ian Turner
They should make Astro City.
Nathaniel Green
idk mang it really seems like Narcos, Stranger Things and House of Cards are proving something. Then you've got a few movies that are doing well.
I really think Netflix Originals will be the next HBO.
It's just a shame they fucked up that Arrested Development season so good (although again some people liked it).
I keep watching The Strain because I genuinely enjoy the scenes with Eichhorst and Setrakian, but they don't make up enough of the show for me to even say the show is overall entertaining yet alone remotely good.
I think Legion could genuinely be a patrician cape show. Not the "gritty crime drama shot in a way that makes it seem patrician" style of the Marvel Netflix shows but an actual challenging character-driven drama set in a superhero world, the trailer seemed to have a slightly surreal tone too which I appreciated.
Luis Butler
>okay, so it's like Girls I'm listening >set in Los Angeles Tempting, but where's the hook? >The lead is a fat black woman Holy shit! Someone give this man a raise!
Landon Sullivan
He's right, you're a queer. Probably raised by a single mother.
Brayden Carter
Give me an actual counter-argument, lad
Jayden Campbell
maybe if they invested in a well written serious drama people would take HBO seriously again
Joseph Myers
>coming to Sup Forums for arguments This isn't high school debate club or reddit, queer. I owe you nothing.
btw I know I was spot on with the single mother comment.
Mason Martinez
Sex sells, kid.
Jayden Kelly
>james franco is a dual lead oh my god NO. Why? Why the fuck would david simon cast james franco in such a large role? Its going to be dreadful!
Juan Murphy
You were and it's flat-out irrelevant unless you can give me an actual counter-argument. For the record, I like titties, I just want to keep my porn and my TV shows separate. Nobody watches any of the shows I listed because of the fucking sex
Jonathan Wilson
GOT? A lot of guys got into GOT cause tits.
Angel Long
>speaking for people other than yourself
Parker Hughes
Do you know anyone who has ever said he watches GoT because of the tits? I mean the tits in GoT aren't even that good.
Christian Morgan
>You were and it's flat-out irrelevant unless you can give me an actual counter-argument. You being raised a sissy isn't irrelevant to you being a homo who doesn't like tits in his shows.
Think before pressing submit, Mary.
Joshua Peterson
I wished they bought american gods and Dresden files instead of what ever other premium network and scfy right before it got cool before sucking again.
We could be either like 7 books in to DF and American gods would be on between seasons GOT
Asher Garcia
How much will their sub count drop once GoT ends? I know so many people who only get HBO when GoT season is around. 9They don't get how piracy works I guess.)
Also the David Simon 70s porn show sounds really niche and I won't be surprised if it gets cancelled.
Gavin Jenkins
literally nobody does that, only autistic faggots think anyone does that unless it's a borderline pornosex or involves their are wife-u