Just finished the episode "Paper Hearts" in season 4. Wtf is going on...

Just finished the episode "Paper Hearts" in season 4. Wtf is going on? Why would Mulder think the pedo dude knew anything about Samantha in the first place when he saw all those clones of her, first hand, at that farm? How is this dude even relevant to the gov't's plans with the aliens? Or is it just shitty writing?

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That episode is so frustrating. After everything that Mulder has seen there's a 0% chance he would fall for that guys shit.

Yeah it was like he was back in season 1 or something

Just finished the episode "Young At Heart" in season 1. Wtf is going on?

the entire series has stupid shit like this. just enjoy it for the monster of the week episodes and a few of the smoking dick eps.

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okay that episode is peak ridiculousness but it didn't contradict already established plot

X-files was a fun show, but so many of the episodes had gaping plot holes or Mulder/Scully acting completely out of character.

>peak ridiculousness

Did you say Paper Heart?

more like meme-files

looking at the reception tab

how did this episode get so much praise? maybe it's because the previous episodes are still kind of fresh in my memory, but all I could think of the whole time was how this made no sense after all of Mulder's other Sam-related revelations.

IMDB has this rated as a Top 20 X-Files episode desu!

The whole alien and Mulder's sister story line really derailed, and it never stopped derailing.

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I'LL

I thought it was really likely though. I mean it was all making good sense

Forget it, OP, it's mytharc.

You'll only get frustrated trying to make sense of it. Carter's no visionary. Morgan, Vince and others usually have better episodes. Monster of the weeks, funnier self reflexive ones. Main myth arc only gets more convoluted.

At what point exactly did Mytharc lose it?

I've just finished season 3 and loved that episode in the mine shaft and the exploding train one, but every one since has been either Mulder or Scully moping around about dead something or others

>4 seasons in
>hasn't yet realized that the mytharc is essentially filler

Everything after S1E16.

it's actually a pretty great episode if you can get past the fact that mulder would never believe him for a second.

the last action hero dude is great in it.

yeah i rewatched the x-files recently for the first time since i watched it as a kid/teenager in the 90s and just skipped every single mythology episode. once was enough for me.

>completely out of character
Quite often it was the opposite though, they had no character development at all. Every episode felt the same and sometimes Scully didn't act like she preferred hard evidence but like she thought Mulder was a dumbass for believing anything other than a man-in-a-mask explanation. It's not like they both had seen some fucked up things

After the movie, honestly. Around the time the fifth season aired and had home-runs 3/4ths of the time. Also I suppose that was just about the time Chris jumped to focus on Millennium, which was truly great but about twenty years ahead of its time and which ultimately suffered when he returned to take the reins from Morgan and Wong who had set the show up to be, for all intents and purposes, essentially a darker version of Fringe's latter seasons for the edgier 90s which Carter, who was way more interested in keeping it in-canon with the X-Files storylines, nerfed.

And then they forgot they basically finished the mytharc and pretended it kept going and that's what killed The X-Files the first time around.

so true.

closure pissed me off so much.

Pretty much nail on the head right here.

I'd place all 5 Darin Morgan episodes in my top 10, and when you look at the numbers Gilligan wrote something like 1 out of 6 episodes across the first 9 seasons and had a pretty amazing run. Between the two of them and a handful of other writers, Carter has maybe 3 decent episodes that can even compete (and you can tell he was trying to copy their style - but after Humbug and his season 3 run, it seems like everyone was trying to copy DM).

the eps david wrote were pretty neat too

Not that user but I enjoyed them, though they get a lot of criticism. They're charming somehow.

Carter surprised me w/ P.M. Prometheus, but as you said, maybe it was modeled on a DM type episode.

PM Prometheus, Triangle, and The Host are the three CC episodes that come to mind as above average.

Then again, after the two season 10 episodes he thought were good enough to put out I kind of wish he decided to back away from the X Files and never have anything to do with the franchise ever again.

I only bring up Darin Morgan because, after having rewatched it a bunch leading up to the new season, I realized how big an influence Humbug had on introducing (meta-) humor into the series; it's literally not there, and then after one episode it becomes a part of the show for 7/8 more seasons.

I cant blame the writers for that. After the Morgan episodes it was hard to see the usual dour writing style as anything but

Reminder that Chris Carter wanted the show to end after 5 seasons or so because he was running out of ideas, but Fox wanted to keep going and going so he stayed because he wanted to run it into the ground himself instead of someone else doing it, and someone else getting paid for it.

Don't try to make sense of it. I've just seen the season 2 episode "Blood" and it doesn't make sense either. The government testing pesticides like they did in the 50s kind of makes sense but the part with subliminal messages does not make any sense at all.

Trying to make sense of this show's plots is a waste of time. Just go with it, drop it after season 5, you're almost there.

Reminder that Vince Gilligan was putting out solid episodes, better than anything CC every did, right up until the very end (well, the penultimate episode).

Sucks that Gilligan was unavailable or didn't want to write at least one episode of season 10. Him running the show would be a dream, but because of Saul that's impossible sadly.

Either way someone with a fresh set of ideas should take over the show from Carter but for some reason Fox wants to keep him.