Opening your ears for music that has been tuned to the “scientific” 432Hz frequency would benefit the entire planet and everyone who lives on it, while listening to music tuned to the “disharmonic” 440Hz frequency does harm by causing stress, negative behaviors and unstable emotions. Listening to 432Hz music resonates inside your body, releases emotional blockages, and expands consciousness. 432Hz music allows you to tune into the knowledge of the universe around us in a more intuitive way.
How can a song be tuned to one frequency? It would just be a single sine wave.
Wyatt Watson
How is 440 disharmonic, my trustful, earnest poster
Tyler Diaz
fuck off dude, the western system of tuning (equal temperament) is inherently dissonant and won't be fixed by pitch-shifting A4 to 432Hz since the ratios between notes are inherently out of tune. The only way to experience pure harmonics is to listen to music made using just intonation tunings see this for instance youtube.com/watch?v=6NlI4No3s0M
Christopher Allen
big woop my dumps are microtuned
Matthew Morgan
shit thread lol
>“disharmonic” 440Hz
Michael Butler
If the two hemispheres of our brain are synchronized with each other at 8Hz, they work more harmoniously and with a maximum flow of information. In other words, the frequency of 8Hz seems to be the key to the full and sovereign activation potential of our brain. 8Hz is also the frequency of the double helix in DNA replication. Melatonin and Pinoline work on the DNA, inducing an 8Hz signal to enable metosis and DNA replication. A form of body temperature superconductivity is evident in this process. If we take 8Hz as our starting point and work upwards by five octaves (i.e. by the seven notes in the scale five times), we reach a frequency of 256Hz in whose scale the note A has a frequency of 432Hz.
Jonathan Long
wow.
Parker Parker
t. Someone with no qualifications in neuroscience, psychoacoustics, music or any other relevant field by the way would anyone like to try my fermented shitake mushroom tea? it cures Alzheimer's
Angel Bennett
more like JUSTonic
Dylan Diaz
Its used as a reference point. In case no one caught that.
Ayden Collins
Nice Ad Honinem, buddy. "Qualifications" don't change anything, 8Hz is the fundamental “beat” of the planet regardless of your "qualifications". The heartbeat of the Earth is better known as Schumann resonance and is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann, who documented it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonance is a global electromagnetic resonance, which has its origin in electrical discharges of lightning within the cavity existing between the Earth’s surface and the ionosphere. This cavity resonates with electromagnetic waves in the extremely low frequencies of approximately 7.86Hz – 8Hz. The “ordinary” thought waves created by the human brain range from 14Hz to 40Hz. This range only includes certain types of dendrites belonging to brain cells, predominantly within the left (the more rational) hemisphere of the brain, which is the center of activity.
Matthew Butler
Too much Joe Rogaine my friend
Adam Wood
Richard T. James is this you? Don't you have better things to do in your day?
Connor Wilson
>have a computer science degree >still can't wrap my head around music theory
Ryder Brooks
oh wow
Noah Howard
The pulse of the universe beats at 432 Hz. 440 never made sense. It's causing climate change and earthquakes
Ryder Turner
then why do all the JUST tunings sound dead and lifeless?
Julian Ward
This actually has some merit to it scientifically speaking. Most things in the world (for example, the written language that is carried by DNA) actually do follow the same or eerily similar paradigms to computer science. For example, the language inside of DNA is made of what are effectively bits & bytes in comp sci.
Also in comp sci (building off of bits & bytes) most things used in the fudamentals of comp sci during its inception had to operate in powers of 2 (2, 4, 8, 16...) so this is not quite as much of a stretch as people think. I don't know enough about acoustics and neuroscience to be able to justify the rest but the comp sci portions are actually plausible.
t. Software engineer with 18 years experience who is just really fucked in the head, so he browses Sup Forums all the time
Parker Lee
>Nice Ad Honinem, buddy. You misspelt "ad hominem". >"Qualifications" don't change anything Okay so when you next get ill you won't go to a doctor you'll just ask someone who's never studied medicine to treat you since qualifications don't change anything. >8Hz is the fundamental “beat” of the planet meaningless statement >The heartbeat of the Earth not a thing >Schumann resonance Exists but so what? You can't hear Schumann resonance since it's EM radiation, not sound (and even if it was it would be below the audible range). There's literally no reason to think that just because this exists and is approximately 8Hz it is somehow a special frequency which is somehow more harmonic than any other frequency (single frequencies cannot be harmonic, only combinations of frequencies) This is a load of pseudo-scientific woo
Matthew Watson
>all the JUST tunings sound dead and lifeless
Nathan Hughes
Radio waves and brain waves are both forms of electromagnetic radiation
Adam Morris
>Posts image about microtonality >Memes on about "the right frequency"
Music is made up of many many frequencies - perhaps even all frequencies.
If you really want to expand your "consciousness", listen to microtonal music instead of getting autistic about what concert A is tuned to.
You can start with pic related.
Isaiah Diaz
piss off richard
Easton Butler
fucking great album ...so? You can't perceive electromagnetic radiation outside of visible light, infra-red (as heat), gamma rays/xrays (by contracting cancer) or ridiculously high intensity microwaves (by cooking alive) you definitely can't perceive Schumann resonance
Kevin Sanchez
>you definitely can't perceive Schumann resonance bullshit, Schumann resonance is the same as earth resonance and we live on earth, how could we not perceive it?
Wyatt Sanders
Because you don't have any sensory organs that can detect EM of that frequency, and it's incumbent on you to prove otherwise. The only way EM can be directly perceived is by our eyes, which can detect EM in the approximate frequency band 430,000,000,000,000 Hz - 770,000,000,000,000 Hz, which needless to say is so far away from 8 Hz that it's completely undetectable by our eyes. Not only that, but Schumann resonance is extremely low energy (~3 * 10^-14 eV).
Read this passage from Wikipedia: >The Schumann resonance electric field amplitude (~300 microvolts per meter) is much smaller than the static fair-weather electric field (~150 V/m) in the atmosphere. Similarly, the amplitude of the Schumann resonance magnetic field (~1 picotesla) is many orders of magnitude smaller than the Earth's magnetic field (~30–50 microteslas).[23] Specialized receivers and antennas are needed to detect and record Schumann resonances. The electric component is commonly measured with a ball antenna, suggested by Ogawa et al., in 1966,[24] connected to a high-impedance amplifier. The magnetic induction coils typically consist of tens- to hundreds-of-thousands of turns of wire wound around a core of very high magnetic permeability.
So not only is Schumann resonance about 1000 weaker than static electric field due to weather in the atmosphere, which would completely drown it out in normal circumstances, but it requires extremely sensitive and specialised equipment to even detect. If we have such a capacity to detect it would have to provide an important and useful function to have evolved. Again it is incumbent on you to prove that such an organ capable of detecting it exists in the human body.
Luke Jenkins
>Again it is incumbent on you to prove that such an organ capable of detecting it exists in the human body being so delusional
Xavier Collins
>I don't need evidence or arguments to support my spurious claims xD
Eli Price
>Wikipedia >evidence
Benjamin Sanders
I understand that it's not a scientific standard of rigour, but this is an internet argument not an academic paper. That said, it's infinitely more evidence than you have supplied, which is absolutely none.
Juan Rodriguez
Address his points, retard.
Zachary Davis
just use google, it's all over the internet
Austin Hughes
>points
Landon Long
This is a brilliant argumentative strategy, you just spout unsubstantiated bullshit then ignore any arguments to the contrary and mock any requests for evidence.
Jonathan Garcia
you have got to be baiting
Brody White
I thought this was gonna be a thread about microtonality but it's a thread about 432 hz.
Juan Hughes
>misspelt you, too, faggot
Connor Young
misspelt is fine it's just British English
Ayden Rogers
Thank you. Absolute pitch isn't important at all. Intervals are important.
I really wish this 432 Hz meme bullshit would die. There's absolutely no basis for it.
Microtonal music is great though. The two ideas are not related at all. Please stop equating them.
William Brooks
Actually "scientific" tuning would tune C to 256 Hz. And that's only because it's mathematically convenient.
Camden Bailey
why? just so C4 = 2^8 Hz?
Landon Baker
Some people speak proper English. Not everyone is from the US.
Josiah Gomez
Yeah, so C1 = 32 Hz, C8 = 4096 Hz, etc. That's really the most sensible standard you can use, but it never caught on. And obviously it doesn't work for stretched tuning.
Just intonation isn't the only way to go. 12 equal has rather lousy thirds, sevenths, etc. but there are equal temperaments that do a better job at these and also introduce a spectrum of new intervals.
this is absolute horseshit
Brandon Hall
Everyone that listen to 440 is doing it wrong anyway, no matter what.
The select pitch at early 1900s was 439hz, but because the tech of the era, the number being prime and etc..... instrument makers complained and the standard was changed to 440hz
right now we have technology to make A4 =439hz so UNLESS you think 440hz is a mistake that somehow was batter than the right thing, you MUST use a4 =439
Jack Martinez
I like to use 6edo
Its the maximum amount of divisions of octave where no note will sound bad when played with previous note
Isaiah Myers
>Microtonal music is great though
12edo with a4=440hz
was made because of 4 subjective rules if you think any of those rules are wrong, then you SHOULDNT be using 12edo using 12edo if you think the rules arent for you, is the equivalent of being a solo pianist, being hired by a label to do an album and they say you can do ANYTHING you want, BUT must only play the white keys.
You can do ambient, jazz, classical music, onkyo, blues, minimalism...... but do you really have total freedom? NOPE
Michael Howard
how the fuck does this make any sense?
>Its the maximum amount of divisions of octave where no note will sound bad when played with previous note
If that's your goal you should use 5 or 7 equal or make a just intonation or harmonic series scale. 6 equal (i.e. the whole tone scale) is pretty dissonant everywhere and it doesn't have anything that isn't already in 12 equal.
Adrian Mitchell
>you must choose ONE
Isaiah Ross
Sound healing is only now beginning to enter into the mainstream, it’s been used as an ancient healing modality for many centuries in different religions. Even scientists such as Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein spoke of the importance of viewing everything in terms of vibration, energy, and frequency.
>If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.
– Nikola Tesla
Leo Cox
More nonsense, fuck off Richard
Henry Stewart
Tuning instruments to A=432 HZ is an ancient practice, and many musicians who still do so state that they choose this frequency because it’s more beautiful and harmonious for the ears. Many people choose to conduct work or meditate to this music because it can have a calming or comforting effect. This doesn’t mean you need to abandon all of your favourite music; it’s just important to be mindful of what frequencies you’re exposing yourself to and how they affect your vibration.
I do love some mainstream music, but I also really enjoy some alternative and meditation music. I think it’s important to have some balance in regards to my taste in music, but that’s the beauty of music — it’s so personal!
Aaron Jones
>Tuning instruments to A=432 HZ is an ancient practice No it's not, you have no proof of that. There wasn't even a way to accurately measure frequency until relatively recently.
>and many musicians who still do so state that they choose this frequency because it’s more beautiful and harmonious for the ears only retarded ones fooled by pseudoscience
There is absolutely no reason to universally prefer any one fixed frequency over another. And there's no credible basis to any of these claims, it's just gibberish that gets repeated by people who don't know what they're talking about.
Zachary Johnson
>7 equal 7 equal sounds shitty
the maximum is 6.125 but obviously 6.125 is not possible an equivalent is 49 equal division of 256, but 49 equal division of 256 just add two extra notes between 20hz and 20000hz and so its not worth the extra work
David Williams
It’s said that A=440 HZ frequency music actually conflicts with some of our chakras that reside from the base of the spine to the heart. It is said that this music stimulates the ego and left-brain function, which can suppress our intuition. There are tons of conspiracies surrounding this frequency, and many seem plausible given the fact that the mainstream music industry incorporates propaganda and mind control.
Noah Taylor
it means middle A is tuned to 432
Evan Hernandez
Can I get some of that gluten free fermented kale homebrew you're making? I need it to counteract the chem trails that are turning my legs into government spies.
Adrian Thompson
the burden of proof lies with you if so why is there no scientific research the concludessound healing is a viable medicine? by bringing up einstein and tesla you've only proved how little you know about science in general, because of course an expert in one field is an expert in all fields, we should let doctors design bridges.
Josiah Gray
Listen to some real microtonal music, not 432 Hz shit.
This guy is the only person here who actually knows what they're talking about.
Mason Green
>How can a song be tuned to one frequency? >It would just be a single sine wave. There are infinite frequencies between 20 and 20000, the frequencies human can hear. BUT most instruments can't play all those frequencies, (instrument like violin, fretless guitar, trombone, slide trupet can), so we must decide what each instrument key, flute hole..... will play based at various rules "we" decided that the formula used is (440*2^(X/6))=frequency X is the distance between the note and A4 some people say an better formula would be (432*2^(X/6))=frequency
Anthony Nelson
432 HZ is said to be mathematically consistent with the patterns of the universe. It is said that 432 HZ vibrates with the universe’s golden mean, Phi, and unifies the properties of light, time, space, matter, gravity, and magnetism with biology, the DNA code, and consciousness. When our atoms and DNA start to resonate in harmony with the spiralling pattern of nature, our sense of connection to nature is said to be magnified. The number 432 is also reflected in ratios of the sun, Earth, and moon, as well as the procession of the equinoxes, the Great Pyramid of Egypt, Stonehenge, and the Sri Yantra, among many other sacred sites.
Sebastian Martinez
>7 equal sounds shitty 6 equal sounds shitty
>the maximum is 6.125 based on what? you don't have any justification for this
Again, you don't have any evidence. Again, it's completely nonsense that has nothing to do with reality.
Josiah Diaz
don't forget this fucking masterpiece
Josiah Jackson
>>the maximum is 6.125 >based on what? you don't have any justification for this
Personal opinion,
Playing a note X and note X+1 at same time and listening to see if it sounds good at 11edo, then at 10edo, then 9edo, until found that the right one was 6 edo or 6.125 if you want to be precise
Owen Ward
lol no
nothing about this is even the tiniest bit scientific or rational
Jack Campbell
i said proof, this is not proof, this is bullshit. if you shared these ideas in any sort of educated circle you'd rightfully be laughed out of the room. this isn't science, there's nothing scientific about it, these ideas are almost religious in nature. do you have any proof or just more moonbat copypasta?
Joseph Morris
Science has proven that everything is made up of energy and that everything holds its own vibration and frequency, which can then be increased or decreased. One person’s vibration that they’re emitting can then affect another person’s energy, and science has proven this interrelation through studying quantum mechanics and our electromagnetic fields or auras.
Evan Richardson
I think that's not a good way to approach it at all. You can say that there's a lower limit on the size of the interval before it becomes overly dissonant, or consecutive intervals, but this doesn't hold up in the context of a chord. You can play a harmonic series scale that has very small intervals (say, 32/31, about a quartertone), but if you play the complete harmonic series from 16 to 32 it will sound very consonant.
6 equal doesn't really have good intervals anyway.
Ian Reyes
That sounds like a pretty extraordinary claim, care to cite some peer reviewed papers that corroborate it?
David Anderson
okay, you don't seem to understand the first thing about science
>these ideas are almost religious in nature it's numerology, really
Camden Allen
this has not been proven. you are wrong, and stupid for thinking you're right. Quantum mechanics does not apply to large things, that is why we have yet to find a grand unified theory. stop using things you know little to nothing about to support your rediculous claims.
fuck that 432 Hz bullshit, listen to real microtonal music
Nathaniel Hughes
music theory is unnecessarily cluttered with overlapping terms and numbers and counterintuitive as fuck.
Jaxson Cruz
You're an idiot.
Henry Clark
It kind of is, and much of it is archaic and nonsensical. If you start with set theory and neo-riemannian theory and stuff like that it actually makes a lot more sense.
Robert Adams
Please don't mix science with pseudoscience. no scientific study supports your claims.
Also, music works in relation to other sounds. "Disharmonic frequency" does not exist. if you want dissonance you need at least two frequencies, which makes your entire argument bullshit
Jayden Cruz
An element in the work of Ananda Bosman relates music tuning at A=432Hz to the production of pineal gland hormones. 432Hz in A is harmonic to the heart-brain coherence of 8Hz in C. The 8Hz frequency is most likely part of a complex overtone harmonic. The single tone produces partials of the fundamental single tone. Partials above the fundamental are called “overtones.” These partials infinitely extend into the inaudible range in both the low and high frequency directions.
Logan Edwards
that's still retarded new age gibberish and not anything peer reviewed or supported by credible evidence
Jaxon Howard
this is akin to saying the moon is made of cheese. are there scientific measurements about the brain heart frequency or whatever bullshit it is you're spouting? what? there is none? wow looks like you are retarded.
Josiah Barnes
Robert O. Becker, in his books, “The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life,” and “Cross Currents: The Perils of Electromagnetic Pollution, The Promise of Electromedicine,” theorizes the existence of a direct current (DC) perineural nervous system. The perineural system, which differs from the digital alternating current (AC) of the autonomic nervous system, is communicated through the perineural cells which surround all nerve cells. The perineural cells are constructed like a crystalline lattice and transmit like semiconductors. They may tie into the pineal gland and the body’s crystalline cellular matrix. The DC perineural nervous system may be most resonant and coherent when it is being informed by a harmonic heart resonance. This coherent resonance emanates from an 8Hz frequency, and interconnects heart consciousness, the electromagnetic brain waves of the low alpha/theta interface, the Earth’s Schumann resonance, and the sound of the Sun. This harmonic may be part of the unity of light and sound.
Hudson Moore
You'd have to also establish that 8 Hz is some relevant frequency to a very good degree of precision. The difference between 432 Hz and 440 Hz is about 32 cents. 8 Hz plus 32 cents is 8.1481 Hz. So if the difference between 440 Hz and 432 Hz is supposed to be relevant, that imaginary 8 Hz signal would have to be very accurate and consistent. Otherwise 432 Hz wouldn't have any particular significance and you might as well tune to 427 or 436.77 Hz or whatever the fuck you want.
Also 432 would be the 54th harmonic of 8 Hz. There's no explanation for the significance of the 54th harmonic.
The whole thing doesn't make any fucking sense no matter which way you look at it.
And that pisses me off because microtonal music is a worthwhile and interesting topic. The fact that people are confusing these things does a lot of damage.
Brody Campbell
The Light mind is our intuitive knowing mind that is beyond the thought process of the dualistic thinking mind. The thinking mind is a perpetual censor of experience in that it operates from the memory of what is known from the past. It utilizes the survival systems of the brain, and protects itself based on our conditioning of ideas, systems, and beliefs. In addition, it results in disharmony because its dualistic approach to knowledge causes perpetual doubt. This searching mind, conditioned by systems of past input, is never in the flow of the presence of now. Therefore, it cannot be creative.
The Light mind is a pure knowing mind that organizes and transmits information from the soul in spirit. It works in unity with the physical body for the Divine infinite consciousness to experience and express love and creativity on Earth. The Light mind oscillates throughout the electromagnetic spectrum in a harmonic of multi-frequencies, and emanates from the heart consciousness of our multidimensional incarnate being.
Jace Howard
Okay, none of this is credible. You can cite as many of these goofy new age sources as you like, but this has nothing whatsoever to do with science. You need to learn some critical thinking skills so you can understand why this stuff you're reading isn't authoritative.
Luis King
still just hippy word salad
Try reading an actual text book or medical journal. There's been a lot of research done in the fields of acoustics, perception, music cognition, music history, etc. None of it mentions the nonsense you're going on about.
Nathaniel Foster
Itzhak Bentov in his work on consciousness and through his book, “Stalking the Wild Pendulum: On the Mechanics of Consciousness,” develops an understanding of sound in the heart-brain resonance (See also Richard Gerber’s “Vibrational Medicine: The #1 Handbook of Subtle-Energy Therapies,” pp. 401-413”).
In his view, in meditative awareness the electromagnetic frequencies of the heart synchronizes the heart’s beat with the pressure wave reflected back to the heart from the aortic bifurcation. This synchronous timing creates a standing wave that oscillates the brain against the cranium. This action results in a sound wave that moves through the neocortex. The acoustical waves are translated into electrical energy that causes stimulation of the brain’s nerve tissue. This action clears stresses of blocked energy in neural networks. This is one aspect of how meditation (8Hz heart-brain resonance) evolves the nervous system to higher functioning. This may result in an increased neural connection in the prefrontal cortex which enables the Light mind in unity with heart consciousness. Then, with focused heart consciousness sends electromagnetic (light), sonic, and hormonal signals to the pineal gland which in turn produces hormones that enhance the receiving/transmitting of consciousness from multidimensions.
Mason Parker
>dude was a surgeon okay his qualifications already don't check out, yet you take his shit book as a credible source, and think it's science, and proven? kys or stop smoking too much weed, i had a phase like this freshman year of college, then i figured out how dumb i was. i hope you do as well.
Charles Ramirez
still not a credible source. less books written by moon bats and more peer reviewed research and studies. books prove nothing, see the bible.
Luis Robinson
Both electromagnetic and sound frequencies are manifested from higher dimensional energy organizing at the physical frequencies of consciousness. While we are yet to understand the precise relationship between light and sound, it is clear that they form an integral harmonic. Ultimately, light and sound are one in consciousness.
In the physical realm, it can be debated whether sound frequencies create light, or whether light precedes sound. For example, sound is known to affect the light producing properties of the pineal gland, as well as the capability of transforming light energy into sound. This occurs through the heart to Light mind connection.
Sound may also be a carrier wave for the electromagnetic frequencies of intent. Regardless of the exact means of interaction, there seems to be a bi-directional relationship where coherent light can affect harmonic sound in the body, and harmonic sound can affect the resonance of coherent electromagnetic frequencies.
Jaxson Hill
no, you're entirely wrong about all of this.
Ryan Lopez
cite a medical journal
like a real one
There is actual scientific knowledge pertaining to quantum physics, neurology, the effects of meditation, etc. and you're missing all of it because you prefer to read nonsensical new age horseshit.
>books prove nothing, see the bible. Well they prove something if they're credible, but anyone can publish bullshit.
Christian Cox
youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw Tesla said it. Einstein agreed. Science proved it. It is a known fact that everything — including our own bodies — is made up of energy vibrating at different frequencies.
