How can Sup Forums reasonably expect young men to get married and have families when so many women are involved in slut culture? You can talk about the manchild problem all you want, but what about the slut and whore problem?
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Hey, I'm no a slut!
I don't know man, a lot of girls 18-22 are cute, nice and innocent. Maybe I have been lucky with the kind of people I meet, but the slut meme is only true for a small fraction of women. A lot of them are afraid to be so sexually active for one reason or another or are just not interested in this type of lifestyle. However, you have to go through more trouble of finding these girls since they will not be the ones in night clubs and on parties.
You can't fix girls that are already sluts. Your only option is to get lucky and find a girl that isn't and then raise your children to be against slut culture.
You just have to accept the fact that it will be hard to find a girl that isn't a slut and you might have to settle on other areas.
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I don't go to bars or night clubs.
I cannot tell you how many times I've seen some shy, "reserved" girl and then later one it turns out she is a massive slut.
What about all the women that are in porn? Millions upon MILLIONS of them. How can people think that won't have any fucking effect on men starting families?
People constantly blame men for everything, but why don't people look at what women do, and why don't people ever consider that women are driving men away with their disgusting behavior?
We're talking about Western women, Bogdan
>"How can Sup Forums reasonably expect young men to get married and have families"
It can't. Progressivism and it's branches have absolutely FUCKED the West and it's women.
Not all girls are sluts. I've met a lot of girls in the 22-28 range who have had less than 3 guys, and have been in a monogamous relationship with a white guy for years.
Unfortunately, it is extremely hard to get one of these girls.
This man.
I met a young, foreign, asian woman. She was a christ cuck, goes to church on Sundays, prays everyday. Traditional values.
Moved in with her, had a kid with her. And while I worked 12 hour days, she'd spend it home not cooking, not cleaning, not doing anything. So I'd come back home to a house slowly looking like a third world shithole.
We would start arguments because I would ask her what the fuck is she doing that she can't do anything?
She made false accusations against me soon after to the police, after her literally throwing my life into the gutter, we divorced, and I find out the whole time she was talking to another poor idiot behind me who will suffer the same similar fate.
I'm not short, I'm not ugly, and I'm above average down there. I tried to do the right thing, with a great candidate but women are beyond redemption nowadays.
The Government basically guarantees them a free ride. Back then she'd get back handed so hard and forced to clean around the house, and the neighbors would agree, or she can always go work the streets.
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>implying I am going to have a family
I'm a loser, it was never in the cards for me to be successful- it sucks that normal people might have difficulty in building their owns families but why should I care?
How does dick taste?
When I was 22 I was told my standards were too high when it came to women. My only requirement was no kid. This was when I gave up on the idea of marriage.
All women are capable of corruption, I am a bit tired of the "Non-white women are pure" meme. Only retards believe that.
So... when I make it clear that you can't blame men or call me a virgin, then all of a sudden the femanon sluts and whiteknight queers don't even bother with the thread?
I win, again. Men are not the problem, women are. The slut and whore problem has ruined western society.
the state cares if men get married and have families. sooner or later the state will just be able to grow clones in a vat, so no problem. it is just the state worrying about something it doesn't need to worry about.
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>when so many women are involved in slut culture?
Go out into the country man. Get a girl that has only graduated high school and raise your family in the country. Keep your kids away from the city, it is the epicenter of degeneracy.
thanks to the internet, the whole world is one big city. location barely matters anymore. Anyone who's used the internet is corrupted
Men are the ones behind porn you fucking moron. Fix yourself first.
That's my point, and I learned the hard way.
And like you said, all women are capable of corruption, and we live in a world that pretty much guarantees it and if you try to stop it you end up in Jail and lose everything.
I don't watch porn anymore and I do not control the men that are "behind" it, but far more women appear to be in porn than men - MILLIONS of sluts. "Fix yourself" is what feminists, sluts, PUAs, and queer beta fags say when they are offended at someone criticizing women.
>When you live with a sweet 18yr farm girl for 2yrs and then she starts camwhoring while you're at work
I've given up on monogamy
Wow! LESS THAN 3 WHOLE GUYS???
That must be tough!
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I don't think slut culture is really that bad outside of the U.S.
The only thing that can be done at this point is to hopefully be lucky enough to find a red pilled girl who believes in waiting to have sex until marriage. It sucks user but almost every woman I met is a slut in one form or another.
Yeah, I've accepted the fact that I can never date. People also counter that "you don't own women" and that "what's in the past doesn't matter," but I disagree. I'm not going to date a chick who's fucked/sucked multiple men outside of a committed relationship.
I mean seriously, what self-respecting man would?
the Amish were right.
modern technology is pretty much the main reason for 90% of modern degeneracy.
what you say was PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE without the internet. Honestly the only way out is to go live a low-tech lifestyle
on the flipside though, do you really think such an innocent girl like you talk about would approve of a Sup Forums using guy? no, we're not that much better
states hates when men are saving what's left after their income.
bosses hates when you're not desperate/forced to work extra hours to afford kids and wives.
women hates when you're not sign away your bank account to their possessions.
haters gonna hate. simple as that.
Oh, it's the anti-technology Jewish guy again.
I'm not perfect myself, but my question was applicable to me, but more so in a general sense. The Internet is pushing very hard for guys to "man up" and submit to women, and men are naturally repulsed by sluts, so therefore it is not possible for us to have wholesome relationships with women since so many are poisoned.
And honestly, I wouldn't mind if women had a sensible list of standards, but using Sup Forums cannot be comparable to being a slut and then trying to force guys to accept you using leftist feminism and other social shaming tactics.
I never said women aren't to blame just as much if not more, and you're correct that using Sup Forums isn't as bad as being a slut.
more like the only thing men did wrong was let women have access to the internet at all
That concept eats at me daily. Maybe we're noble beings corrupted by an abundance of overwhelming technology, or maybe we're just animals chasing every chemical high we can get our hands on, shedding our humanity a little more with each exponential leap.
white women have no dignity, they are nigger loving whores
I don't believe human nature is good and technology caused degeneracy that wasn't there before, more like man was always depraved but the environment limited the expression of said depravity.
So what do we do if we ever want to have sex? Get an escort?
Unfortunately, it is nowadays.
Female virgins above the age of 16 are rare, and above the age of 20 are nonexistent.
A woman above the age of 20 who's only been with one or two guys is a goddamn prize nowadays.
By contrast, male virgins are numerous at age 18, and still not hard to find at age 25.
That's up to you. I don't advocate degeneracy, but you are in control of your own actions.
Many people on here say that all of this would just go away if men stood up to women, but the problem with that is that men these days cannot stand up to women. Even the "alpha males" are all very weak and effeminate looking and they base their entire existences off of female approval.
And even if we did try to put women in their place, what would actually happen? I gander that a small but dedicated minority of guys would try, and then everyone else would oppose it.
>tfw have pure girlfriend, myself being her first partner who doesnt participate in the 'slut culture'
Lol i am being a slut and no one can stop me
>the slut meme is only true for a small fraction of women
Clearly youve never spoken to a woman or set foot outside in your life
do you consider yourself any better than the rest though? What makes you think you're not weak and effeminate looking?
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I mean I'm certainly not, I'm literally autistic, the best I can do is just never bother with women and go move to the middle of nowhere at some point. and it's not like I have a choice.
Give it time OP, the cultural enrichment will come
You've got 2 choices user
1) marry a slut
Take one for the white race. Marry and impregnate a white bitch. She will cheat on you, she will divorce you eventually, but you will be creating white babies and with any luck you night be able to red pill them before the brainwashing sets in
2) marry an Asian
Asian women are redpilled and obedient and make great mothers. However your children will not be white and you will be a race traitor. There is no avoiding that fact
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Have fun with your cats, sandnigger.
I consider myself different because I can actually speak my mind and say "no" to women, which no other guy in real life or on the Internet can seem to do. They like it when I speak back to them in decent but firm tone, it's like they've never seen that before.
I don't like embellishing about myself, but I do workout regularly and try my best to keep a good diet. I've gotten compliments over the years, and since feminists and LGBT people have told me that I basically look like a standard cis white male shitlord, I take that as a compliment.
I place more emphasis on the saying "no" to women thing though.
Probably like skin, a little salty I'd imagine. Fuck your joke.
I've never been in that position since I'm an ugly autistic half-kike. even if I worked out I'd never attract anyone.
I'm seriously considering celibacy, or even converting to orthodox Judaism (though I dispise some parts of the religion)
>marrying FOB chinks
That was your problem, not all "women". I almost went down the same path as you but luckily I stopped myself.
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The more innocent a grill appears to be the exactly same probability to be a bitch this is 99.99.
There is nothing wrong with it it's just their natural form.
honestly you have to enforce a culture where these things doesn't happen. Democracy tends to make women unbearable, and in turn all men stop giving a fuck about marriage and having children, which leads to societal collapse. It's not just a western thing, look at Japan.
There's a reason why the Weimar Republic was a incredibly degenerate period for Germany, and then a strong leader came and everyone acted like a model citizen. The problem is that with authoritarianism, other problems surface.
Basically we as a society will always be fecked, because one way or another there'll be problems. We're programmed to function within a small tribe, we're not prepared for the problems that comes with big societies. This is why any form of government can work in the small scale but there isn't magical solution to govern a country.
Try to be part of a village with 40 inhabitants or something.
>18-22
I don't know how things are in Bulgaria, but here in the states most girls have had a few dicks by the time they're able to legally consent to sex. Even if they aren't going to the club and fucking strangers every weekend, most of them don't seem to go more than a week without having a bf. I live in a state where the age of consent is 18 and it's almost impossible to find an 18 year old virgin girl (and most "virgins" are liars or forgiven by God so they think they can call themselves that.) Honestly, I think we need to lower the age of consent to 14.
OP, I can't answer that question, but I'm lucky that I'm young and have resolved to not get married and have a family. Instead, I'm going to work on myself and workout so I can pump n' dump random sluts. There's just no incentive to get married and raise a family anymore if you're a male. If that fails, I'll just visit a prostitute every so often. They're a lot cheaper than a wife.
It's the jews that have made women this way.
Kill the jews and they will improve.
Why would you marry some chink broad?
Same reason why nerdy Black Men who get rejected by Black Women for not being Ghetto marry white women
PULU WARRIOR
Go ahead OP trigger more feminists kek
Fuck, time to become Amish.
These type of threads always depress me....
Posted this in another thread that got deleted.
Sup Forums, I am in love with a woman, I believe that my love for her is sacred, that is in the platonic sense of divine eros.
She however, is clearly not a good woman, she says she does not want children, nor that she believes in marriage or monogamy in and of itself. We were together in the past, but I ended that after she cheated on me.
On top of this, she appears quite obviously to me to be miserable, confused and adrift. I believe she looks for a man who can power through and correct her and keep her safe, so that she may finally rest.
What do I do about this? All conventional advice would point to of course correcting this, but I have a strong belief in my own constitution and power.
Kek cisit r9k senpai
There are hundreds on millions of white women in the West. A great deal aren't sluts. If you can't find a good woman, it's because of a lack of effort
>wanting to be with a woman who cheated on you
I say go for it, but you must castrate yourself first.
Marry her, and redpill her. Make the white race great again
Yes I know, that is of course the conventional belief.
My constitution was not strong when we were together in the past, I am more than willing to admit that.
But I do believe that God has intended me to take possession of her and keep her with me. So I am inclined to go against the simple gut instinct.
>go to party with women
>realize I don't know what normies talk about anymore
What the fuck do normies talk about?
>normies
Keep to your containment board
Funny that a Jew knows whats happening to us all the way from Israel. You guys truly do control us like puppets.
I'm not even complaining, I'm impressed.
>Women in the same country
>Women in the same area
>Straight
>Available
>Not degenerate
And now the hundreds of millions is down to a whole lot less. The effort women need to go through is to create a Tinder account and just pick a guy.
Directly or indirectly, themselves.
>clones
>artificial womb
A lie they tell nerds so they don't take responsibility for the future with their cock.
False hopes on delusional dreams.
I got a girl that made as much as me and we moved to the Alaskan wilderness. She hasn't cucked me (as far as I know, I spend almost every minute beside her, and have a security system that sends me notifications whenever a door is opened in my house, so I know if she goes out.)
Honestly you have to find women that seem genuinely interested in/ is commented to doing something other than being a whore. For example, my gf graduated with a masters and a 3.5 GPA
a real "nerd" who is serious about dedicating a life to study should consider celibacy.
most of the actual great scientists and inventors were celibate and/or monks in the church.
For most people though, marriage is preferable since most people aren't meant for that life. But you can't have it both ways
> i wont be a parent because my kids will become degenerate
Have you no confidence in your parentint skills?
It's easy, you stupid cucks. Find a non-whore women. You are going to whore-gathering places (tinder, bars, clubs, etc...) and finding nothing but whores. I found my wife when she was a student teacher at the elementary near me. I came by to speak to kids about education and shit (from the same school, somewhat a big deal around my town, so kids look up to me) and there she was. Blonde, blue eyed, church going type. Never dated much before because sh ewas focused on school.
There are MANY women out there that would make A+ wives, you just have to find them.
but yes, there are a shitload of whores as well.
You're a delusional psychotic faggot
You live in the internet age, faggot, and you can freely travel across Europe. This defeatist attitude is why our race is dying
most people our age would be horrible parents, simply because their parents nor the school system even bothered teaching us how to parent.
Of course this is all by design, compulsory education is DESIGNED to delay maturity
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Believe it or not, there is such a thing as controlling your woman.
How about a BDSM sex slave?
Was expecting a lot of slut pics in this thread..
Porn literally only exists for the sake of men. If men had no interest in female depravity porn wouldn't be as huge as it is the modern day and age.
That is what they always say about those that step out and gain insight.
I really think I have to.
I'm not quite sure how to deal with the perceived weakness of going back to her though.
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>There are MANY women out there that would make A+ wives
hell if arranged marriage was the norm it wouldn't be as huge. But it's a pipe dream trying to put that back into the bottle without the west collapsing and all of us here being dead first.
>Be in relationship with absolute 10/10 brunette blue eyed qt3.14 for three years.
>Never had a bf.
>Never kissed before.
>Virgin, obviously.
>Broke up with me to be a slut.
>Looks like female Brendan Frasier 5 years later her shit is FUCKED UP.
Sometimes I think I should just kill myself. It's terrible seeing that happen to such a sweet girl. I don't even bother with women any more. Sometimes people are like "wat no gf? xD" but I'm fucking huge and /fit/ so they know their place.
Sports and celebrities. Normies are good little slaves
I believe part of the problem is that there are tons of really decent-behaving women, it's just the kind of people that frequent 4-chan haven't run into them yet. The amount of people who are active on Sup Forums is a small percentage compared to the rest of USA, so women aren't always horror stories.
sorry but all of you faggots are being cucks. Wake up and smell the pussy.. As a man in his 30s, who cares what a bitch does, move on, with the internet it's so fucking easy to pick up random puss. Also, why are you whining ont he net about it, jesus christ.
lie and say youre a pilot here for the weekend, women wear makeup, push up their titties, wear those FUPA reducers.. i mean they lie by default. Lie right back, fuck with their heads, have fun. This is all just a fucking ride and a game, have fun. A girl dumps you? Good, slap on a new outfit and go grab some beers at a bar. Alone. How fucking dumb are you guys?
You can find help through relatives and othodox churches. They have children's activities for your kids while denouncing and redpilling degeneracy.
It's very simple. Now that women are seen as equal, they will always do what they want. Back in a man's world, women had to be good and true to a man to survive.
The only way to keep a traditional woman, and have a traditional family, is to marry a women who thinks this way, and of course you need to be the breadwinner and provide for your family. Note, don't think for a second that any woman wouldn't leave you in a heart beat if they found a man that could better provide for them.
Never marry a woman that wants to be a "career" woman out of want and not necessity. Because she'll leave you when ever she wants to because she's "independent". These girls are best to just be bf and gf, until you're ready to leave them and start a family with a traditional women. And don't get worked up when these type of women cheat on you, just try and be open, make her get STD checked after, then keep banging her till YOU are ready to leave her and start the family.
Okay guys, we need some slut bingo in here to teach the youngin's.
well I'm diagnosed autistic, and I think I'm leaning toward celibacy. I think I'd be doing a disservice to society by having a family. I know how bad the divorce rates are for Asperger's parents.
supply and demand
if the tables were turned and reasonably attractive girls were throwing themselves at you every day, you would totally tap all the puss
women who rode the cock carousel for 15 years and want to settle with a beta provider should be left in the cold
find a young girl (early 20s) that is roughly your equal (physically, socially, etc) and woo her before she starts riding the cock carousel, and if you do it right she will latch onto you for good and later will breed.
not foolproof but gotta play smart these days
Israeli Jews don't control us, the Jewish elite do. Our country defends Israel not for Israel's sake, but because the puppet master billionaire American Jews want us to. Believe it or not, the Israelis are actually nothing like American Jews in that they are typically conservative and not degenerates.
I'm not saying men are completely blameless in all this, but saying "omg it's all men's fault" is just an excuse. I'd like to think women can rise above that, but obviously they can't.
3 rd choice:
The only real reason to marry is to have kids. So don't marry, but negotiate with a woman to have your child ie. pay her and tell her to get lost after (or trick her). Then get a gf if you need one for a bit, then dump her, pay for another child, etc.. build a family (without a mother).
If you don't want kids, why would you get married?!?!