I'm glad this band made this album cover because otherwise i would probably never get exposed to their music

I'm glad this band made this album cover because otherwise i would probably never get exposed to their music

Which would be a shame because this is a damn good post-punk album

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Some people shout "racist" at things that are not racist. that's is true.

However, two things you fail to distinguish:
1. Racism IS a real issue and sometimes you need to call out something which is actually racist. we don't want to become nazi germany

2. This album art doesn't even talk about racism, it talks about the other deadly aspects of the modern right-wing

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Trump murders civilians all across the world and then he murders the civilians of his own country by denying them healthcare. and a bonus, he is also going to kill people after his own death because of the consequences of pollution and global warming

I would argue calling his government a "Death Machine" is very adequate.

>and then he murders the civilians of his own country by denying them healthcare. and a bonus, he is also going to kill people after his own death because of the consequences of pollution and global warming

Well, Americans are not even people, so those doesn't even count.

What's the best Hopsin album?

if you say Raw you're pleb-tier

Okay, how is Trump killing millions of people worldwide? Also, how is killing millions more with not rafitifying a healthcare bill which is essentially a shitter version of Obamacare? And global warming? Do you know the west especially America has the most strenuous regulations when it comes to the environment? If you going to criticize him, try not to use talking points fed to you by the MSM.

I did not say he is killing MILLIONS, but he is certainly killing thousands in the form of drone strikes and careless bombings in civilian areas in 7 different nations.

>how is killing millions more with not rafitifying a healthcare bill which is essentially a shitter version of Obamacare
It's going to kill tends of thousands every year, not millions, because less people will have access to healthcare.

>Do you know the west especially America has the most strenuous regulations when it comes to the environment?
That is just not true. europe has strong regulations to protect the environment, but the regulations in america are incredibly lackluster. you are the one who is brainwashed by right wing media if you think america is leading in the way in environmental protection regulations

*tens of thousands

> tfw have this and shit with swastikas in my music collection

sure feels good being able to overlook whatever silly political statement musicians with no knowledge in politics whatsoever are trying to make

There is nothing silly about the political statement this album cover presents.

The only criticism i have is that they are not nuanced when they say they are against capitalism. they are probably in favor of capitalism but against the current form of purist capitalism that takes place in America

reminder that crazyaga is a literal jew who literally and unironically lives in the apartheid state known as israel

I'm against the israeli government, i even voted against the current government.

Don't blame me for their actions just because of my geographical location.

And btw im an atheist, not jewish

>drone strikes and careless bombings in civilian areas in 7 different nations.
just like obama desu

Reminder that liberals who are against Trump yet followed Obama like the second coming of Christ aren't really anti-capitalist.

Yes, but Trump dramatically expanded it.

Communism is a failed ideology user. you should support Social Democracy, which is proven to work in many countries all around the world

your very existence on palestinian land is oppressive and you have to leave. your tax money pays for the slaughter of palestinian children

that might be, i just don't care what musicians have to say about politics. i'm not denying that it can't carry a powerful, meaningful political message though. i just listen to so many different artist with vastly different opinions. if started to actually care or stop listening to certain acts because they are commie nuts or ultra tight wing psychos i'd miss out on a lot of interesting music.

plus i'm just so fucking tired of hearing about muh trump and muh capitalism from trust-fund white kids with 800$ smartphones. he's shit but obama was utter shit as well. suck it up pussies, give it a fucking rest.

Fuck Drumpf and fuck white people

Social democracy keeps masses at rest while capitalist expansion destroys livelihoods overseas. Plus, a wage is still slavery, no matter how nice its made to look.

Bernie Sanders is a supporter of Israel by the way.

Go back to Sup Forums

>Hurr durr you live in israel so you must be at fault for anything the israeli government does, even if you voted against them XD

Bernie Sanders supports the existence of israel, but he is against what israel is currently doing

Aniway, communism was proven to not work. it fails every time people try it. in contrast, social democracy is proven to work in many countries all around the world

Also social democracy does not destroy livelihoods overseas

doesn't matter who you voted for, you're still complacent in the crimes of your apartheid state and perpetuate its brutality by living there and paying taxes. it makes you look ridiculous to criticize other countries when there's blood on your hands

The brutality of the united states is objectively worse than anything israel has done.

We never dropped two nukes on densely populated Japanese cities that were not even military targets

Now plz

>>plus i'm just so fucking tired of hearing about muh trump and muh capitalism from trust-fund white kids with 800$ smartphones.
NO

ETHICAL

CONSUMPTION

UNDER

CAPITALISM

>whataboutism

this is what you're reduced to?

My point was that it's hypocritical to blame me for what israel is doing, but not blaming americans for what their own government is doing which is much worse

>LE SOCIAL DEMOCRACY :DDD

Fuck that shit, Odalism is the only way

The nordic nations have a system of social democracy and it's proven to work great

so it makes it ok for israel to kill innocent palestinians because america also does bad things?

They are capitalist countries

As much as you paint it, social democracies are still capitalist.

Communism has failed in its 20th century experiments for various reasons. The theoretical frame work of Stalinism is bullshit for one, everything it touches fails. Ventures in socialism that are based in nationalism are bound to fail in disaster. Mainly because it means isolation from the global capitalism and yet simultaneously needing to compete with these nations anyway. Also, in the time period that nations such as Russia and China came about, were unstable periods following massive world/civil war that completely wrecked the infrastructure of all societal functions in these nations.

Eh, you're kinda right in the case of Israel, but its a falsehood to assume complete nations are homogeneous entities that act with singular intent with complete approval from their population. It would be more appropriate to analyze intentions and actions of nations under what would be in the best interest for economic expansion and the wealthy elite.

Sure it has, btw, do you know how much shit costs in Norway nowadays?

Nope. my point was that i'm not to blame for their actions, especially considering i voted against them in the elections

The well-being of Nordic nations comes from the suffering of others. The Nordic nations are far from self-sustainable, they are just wealthy.

Social democracy is only a good short term solution for rich capitalistic countries.

Communism pushes to be self-sustainable hence why it's a better and honestly, a more realistic solution

>I voted against them in the elections

...so you did nothing?

>As much as you paint it, social democracies are still capitalist.

Correct, but it's an healthy form of capitalism that aims to fix the dangerous flaws of more purist forms of capitalism

Name a communist country that worked. the truth is that when you give the government a complete control over the economy, its going to get abused. its not very different from how corporations abuse their own grip of the economy.

The beauty of social democracy is that it balances the power of the government and the corporations, which makes it a very sustainable system

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good job, you did a lot. keep paying for the murder of innocents you hook nosed demon

>when you give the government a complete control over the economy
this is not communism

You are a dumb person. are you a murderous villain too because your own government murdered civilians? of course not. it doesn't work like that

No, it's a part of what communism is.

this

Yeah well you're a jew

I'm an atheist, but even if i was jewish that wouldn't make me a murderous villain

What kind of dumb argument is this?????

>criticizes america for murdering civilians
>lives in fucking israel
>justifies this by deflection

this jewish doublethink is amazing. hope your country sits at the bottom of the mediterranean one day

What's with all the:
>don't be Sup Forums
bullshit everywhere lately?

You're a jew by matriarchal lineage, doesn't matter if you're an athiest or not you're still a jew.

Also you feed the jew machine by living in Israel and buying in to Israeli things

Show me where i justified the actions of the israeli government.

I just said i'm not at fault for what they are doing, i'm not them.

Your argument is nothing but a huge strawman

You have to be a troll.

>Racism IS a real issue
>real issue
It's not real, it's a meme.

>Guilt by geographical location
fuck off honestly.

You support the Israeli government with your taxes, those taxes go towards their actions

No you, jew

This is why I hate Tripfags.

Attention whoring, virtue signaling tripfags.

I used to like Gnod. Seen em live a couple of times.
But now I'm not so sure anymore. Unless they're being ironic with that cover, which I doubt.

No form of capitalism is inherently for the better of the people en masse. Complete laissez-faire systems are exploitative in full apparent form, while welfare states perpetuate exploitation (and arguably do so more effectively under this guise) by placating the working masses with the bare minimum. Beginning with the implementation of Keynesian economics after the Great Depression, what was done was basically save capitalism for future advancement of exploitative structures.

Communism is also not "giving gov complete control over the economy"

What you're referring to are Stalinist nations acting under the guise of communism that are actually state capitalist in nature. Government control over private enterprise and trade. Russia, China, Cuba, are all (or were during their "communist" phase in the case for Russia) state capitalist nations.

Ultimately, Marx argued that state is an unnecessary element of society once the capitalism mode of production advances to communism, eventually withering away in redundancy. Or if you follow a more anarchist tradition, you abolish that shit with capitalism from the start. All depends on your perspective of leftism and capitalism.

Go look at Sup Forums. racism is a very real issue.
Actually you don't have to go to Sup Forums, just look at comments like this and this and this If everyone who were against the israeli government left the country, what would happen? things would get even worse. am i not right?

Sure is summer in here.

>its racist to call out jews for fucking over palestine
you jews are really something lmao.

If you think people care about deaths of civilians only out of "virtue signaling", you are really dumb

lmao nigga shut the fuck up

No, things would be better cause you're only left with a bunch of spastic fundie jews who will refuse to fight or do anything for their country beyond paying taxes

He certainly is foreign.

It's racist to claim a person is bad just because he is jewish, which is exactly what this user did.

I'm against what the israeli government is doing here, but blaming all jews for this is dumb and retarded

>The people who are willing to fight for the israeli government are the ones who disagree the most with the israeli government XD

Makes no fucking sense

>Communist
>tripfag
>talks about things unrelated to Sup Forums
>has enough ego to jam shit down others throats

Summer.

its not racist to call out privileged individuals like jews are.
what have you done to fight against you israel government besides whine on Sup Forums
oh right nothing.

I voted against them.

And btw, the current government is not even the worst case scenerio. the other rights wing parties are even worse than Netanyahu

You have conscription do you not?

Also jews like the haredi's and some others are legally exempt from conscription

Wrong:
If you trust any government you are dumb.
If you trust any doctrine you are dumb.

And you sound like politically correct drongo that honestly believes there is good in the world.
There isn't.

I managed to get an exempt because i had a severe clinical depression at the time

saying you voted against them doesn't automatically absolve you of all blame you dumb oven dodger

There is definitely alot of good in the world. you sound like a delusional idiot who thinks all human beings are inherently malevolent.

The truth is that there is plenty of good in the world, and plenty of bad things in the world. quit thinking in a dumb absolute way.

Ey, they brought it up, if you want to shit on someone for posting unrelated noise, shit on crazyjew and all them other niggas too. I also like being the opposite perspective on things like this, and on Sup Forums, it just so happens that my "opposite perspective" and the pov of most posters here are directly contrary to each other. Works for me.

Lemme guess, you lost a shekel and was feeling a bit down cause of it

Why are you pinpointing your complaints against israel and not complaining about the US which is a much greater evil?

could it be because you are American and you don't see the obvious hypocrisy of your arguments

Israel, US, etc, all them dudes bombing the shit out of other brown dudes for expansion and investment of capital. Nationalism is a disease bruh.

>and not complaining about the US which is a much greater evil?
i don't live in the US
try again

No.

I fell in love with a straight guy who was my best friend while denying my own gayness. we ha a fight which was mostly my fault and it ended up in him really hating me, and later that year he left the country with his family and i never saw him again

Sup Forums is on an offensive trying to spread their cancer to the rest of the website lately, this is just the counter offensive.
Have you not noticed the "white power music" and RAC threads nazis have been creating here lately?

no. i don't have autism like you

okay where do you live?

I should try making leftist music threads again. Fun times.

Jesus dude, how the fuck did you not know that you shouldn't tell friends you love them let alone best friends

wow that was uncalled for
I'm shaking
go for it, I'd contribute

brasil

I did not tell him
But i think he guessed it

I'm sure the Brazilian government is doing some bad things too, no government is perfect. are you at fault for what your government is doing?

Ahahaha holy shit man, how the fuck would they even have figured that shit out unless you were telling others or actively giving off signals

>I'm sure the Brazilian government is doing some bad things too, no government is perfect.
prove it.

The story is a bit more complicated than what i described there. but honestly i think the summary i shared here is enough

what're your politics crazyaga?

Sup Forums only exists if you keep looking for them.
you have paranoia

hrw.org/world-report/2011/country-chapters/brazil

"Most of Brazil's metropolitan areas are plagued by widespread violence perpetrated by criminal gangs and abusive police. Violence especially impacts low-income communities. There are more than 40,000 intentional homicides in Brazil every year. In Rio de Janeiro hundreds of low-income communities are occupied and controlled by drug gangs, who routinely engage in violent crime and extortion.

Police abuse, including extrajudicial execution, is a chronic problem. According to official data, police were responsible for 505 killings in the state of Rio de Janeiro alone in the first six months of 2010. This amounts to roughly three police killings per day, or at least one police killing for every six "regular" intentional homicides. The number of killings by police in Sao Paulo, while less than in Rio de Janeiro, is also comparatively high. A 2009 Human Rights Watch report found that police in Sao Paulo state had killed more people over the prior five years than had police in all of South Africa, a country with a higher homicide rate than Sao Paulo."

How the fuck would they have figured it out, were you grinding on them or giving them the bedroom eyes or some shit

nah I just check the catalogue frequently

how is that bad again?
getting rid of thugs. least were not keeping ppl from their land like you are.

Secular humanist in favor of social democracy as an economic model

I became really obsessed about him when he told me he is going to leave the country. it really messed me up mentally and i did not deal with it very well. my obvious obsession is what gave it away

wheres the Sup Forums thread again buddy?

police =\= government