Which is better and why?

Which is better and why?

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

or

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

OP here

Someone please bump

Ti.

Its the same card but slightly overclocked.

What do you mean "overclocked"?

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is the best for 4k
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is the best for vr

it depends on your needs

OP here

Then I'll get NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 because I want VR. Thanks user.

no problem

OP here

Also I don't know what you mean by 4k

ok gtfo this site xD

4K resolution = Ultra HD resolution

lol no you idiot, the Ti variant has a completley different chip

You can think of 4K resolution as being 4 times the Full HD resolution of 1920x1080. Basically its crisp as fuck.

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Well I don't have a 4k tv so that's why I'm not going to get Ti

OP here

Why is it BS?

Overclock = purposely run something over its limits

OP here

So is that a bad thing?

A 1080 is still overpowered for 4k.

Seriously just get the regular 1080, no reason to get the Ti variant since I doubt you gonna need that extra power, the 1080 on its own is more than enough for your needs trust me. Plus its cheaper ;)

>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is the best for 4k
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is the best for vr
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. the 1080Ti beats the 1080 across the board except in performance per dollar

That guy's a fucking idiot.

By definition, if it's running at the speed it's sold at, it's not running over its specifications and isn't overclocked.

So then what does the Ti do that's differt than without the Ti?

Ti is short for Titties
>Basically Ti is better for porn

If you have to ask, you have no business buying computer parts. You're just a moron blindly wandering through a 3-dimensional maze.

Ti is Titanium - Its like gold teeth for whitebois

Ti is just the newer version of the 1080 line usually means higher stock clock rate so 1080ti its greater then 1080 as far as preformances

OP here

I'm not buying computer parts. I'm trying to decide which gaming computer to buy from the BestBuy site.

It fucking isn't, and you're talking shit without even googling it.

Like the Titan X, it's a Titan Xp with its damaged functional units disabled.

Unlike the Titan X, it has one damaged memory controller, so less RAM and less memory bandwidth.

It's not the same chip as the 1080: that's a 1070 without disabled functional units.

The pascal family is: [1030*] [1050*,1050Ti] [1060 3GB*, 1060 6GB], [1070*, 1080], [1080Ti*, Titan X*, Titan Xp]. Chips marked with a * have one or more functional units disabled.

Yeah, but in this case it doesn't, so don't guess.

the 1080Ti has a LOWER clock than the regular 1080

Op stole his mum credit card and is building a pc.

Because it is. The 1080 Ti is just generally the more powerful and expensive GPU.
It does both things better than the 1080.

Also they're both completely overkill and a waste of money for 99% of PC users.

I just realised what I said. I meant to say that a 1080 is overpowered UNLESS you're doing 4k. Literally the opposite of what I wrote.

It does the exact same thing, just 29% faster.

stop talking please there is not a single correct info in your posts

Goddammit I bought the wrong one then!

>Unlike the Titan X, it has one damaged memory controller, so less RAM and less memory bandwidth.
So you're saying the 1080Ti has less memory and memory bandwidth than the titan x? nvidia says otherwise ...

OP here

So would a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti would be enough for todays computer games?

Can everyone stop arguing about the difference between the 1080 and 1080 Ti? Here are the official specs. The 1080 Ti uses a different GPU than the 1080, but at a lower clock speed. The 1080 Ti is actually much more comparable to a Titan than the 1080. It performs significantly better than the 1080 in every field, and I would personally buy one today if I didn't already have a standard 1080. They’re both still overpowered if you aren’t gaming in 4k, though.

1070 would be perfect for today's games @ 1080p, provided it was paired with a CPU that would not bottleneck it

>be me
>somewhat of a cheapskate
>buy an ok pc, 3gb vram gpu and mediocre cpu
>cpu is best for its mother board
>couple of years later get some money
>being autistic, decide to but a 1080 to buff my pc
>tfw internet runs worse than high-end games
>tfw I have to spend about £500 for new cpu and motherboard

At standard full HD resolution a 1050 Ti or a 1060 will allow you to run almost every modern game at good settings. So yeah.

What do you mean by bottleneck?

Cool. Because I'm using my 65" Samsung 1080p HD T.V as a monitor for my computer.

I've always found it silly to use a small computer monitor when you could use a big T.V as one.

I don't know if anyone answered your question about overclocking so I'll give it to you straight.
Overclocking a processor (CPU or GPU) allows you to increase a processors computational power beyond its advertised value by tonkibg with the core clock speed and voltage. For example, an i7-7700k has a core clock of 4.2ghz. By increasing the voltage, a user is able to increase its clock speed in order to make it more powerful.
Not all processors can be overclocked the same way due to the nature of what's called the "silicon lottery". What that means is that micro-defects in processor's manufacturing effects it's ability to be overclocked. Not all processors are the same.
Another good example is the i7-4790k. It has a base clock of 4.0ghz and I beleive somebody managed to boost its clock speed to over 7.5ghz, essentially doubling its speed.
In exchange for the faster speeds, you will experience greater power consumption (increasing the cost of operation) and carry the risk of decreasing the CPUs effective lifespan.

Oh and I forgot that the extra speed will also create extra heat, making effective cooling absolutely necessary.
And lastly my post has nothing to do with your original post, it's just a response to one of your other questions. CPUs and GPUs are both processors and both can be OCed

I have 2 gtx 1080s extreme editions overcloked. It eats every game I've thrown at it maxed out in 4k. They say the TI has a 30-40% performance advantage. The ones I bought came vr ready including a front port for the dual HDMI s on the case. All things considered I'd recommend getting a single 1080 (one of the higher end,ones) and just push the clock speed. 1 can run 4k but not every one maxed out, but 2 can. Gl bro.

No its not peasant

It's totally correct you dumb cunt, 4K is roughly 4xFull HD. Go back to your cave.

OP here

Oh wow. So I guess I should get a gaming computer with a liquid cooling thing if I'm going to get the computer that has the 1080 Ti.

But is there a gaming computer you would recommend? Because I might get one that is VR ready.

What do you mean it eats your games?

feels good

OP seriously if you don't have a 4K monitor just drop the idea of getting a Ti, the 1080 will meet all your needs even for VR, and liquid cooling should only be considered if you plan on overclocking, do you even know how to do that? If not then just stick to the regular 1080.

I corrected myself. Read the thread, peasant.

3840x2160 != 4* 1920x1080 but

8,294,400 and 2,073,600 respectively

So yes this user is correct, approx 4x.

Then I guess Ill go with the simple 1080, maybe. Because I might get a 4k TV one day and use it as monitor. And no. I don't know how to overclocking.

I can play any game maxed out with no performance issues and no temperature issues in true 4k constant 60 fps

If you don't know how to overclock and are not inclined to get into it then just go with a fan system build, the gtx cards themselves have an adequate heatpipe and fan system to keep them cool. If you're looking long term with regards to getting a 4K monitor and have the money then go for the 1080Ti for sure, you'll have better upgradability in the future. Depends on what you looking for. Personally I would be happy with a 1080 but I don't 4K.

Any Vega

The AMD shill has arrived. Thread ruined, everybody.

Vega

Enjoy paying through the nose for your consumer level floating point lol

At least you save money in the winter since instead of an hvac unit you can just turn your pc on.

GT 630, because i got it for almost free.

Fuck off. I filter you on Sup Forums for a reason you fucking obnoxious brand war pricks.

Anyone got any predictions for when this mining thing will end?

Still has better performance per watt ratio

You're cranky because its too hot in your room. Try turning off your oven, I mean your computer.

Sorry I wasn't aware you were running a data center and assumed I was doing the same and that I'd have to be jewish about power-costs measured in the hundreds of dollar a month.

By all means, tell me how your godbox has a better flops/wattage ratio than the epyc architecture which scales memory across multiple cards as a single PCI bus device.

If you're feeling a bit toasty and you have some change to spare, maybe you should invest in a P47.

OP here

Basically I want to buy a good gaming computer from BestBuy site $2,000 or less. I one day get an 4k TV for a monitor but until then I'm using my 1080p 65" Samsung TV. Can anyone give me any good suggestions on what good already made gaming computer from BestBuy site would be?

No, but I hope there will be a cripto-crysis

Nope, better performance/watt ratio. I'm sorry that you're frightened that you might have to actually buy decent cooling for your machine instead of relying on the intel stock fan for your processor and the two included fans with your 50 dollar newegg case.

We're all very impressed that you thought RGB lighting was more important than cooling -- which you got away with because your card isn't really doing grownups work anyway in single point precision.

We really appreciate having the scale of videogame physics and gameplay held back to single point and beta cuck number of logical cores and shitty memory bandwidth to your GPU because you thought being milked for consumer performance was absolutely acceptable. At this point, you may as well be console gamers.

>your autism to fedora ratio is quite high pls go and cuck. Nvidia > amd. The only reason to build amd is if you are poor fag building a budget pc. Which is fine, we all started there. But the fanboy shit is laughable dude. The only downside to nvidia is cost. Much like a luxury car. As you explain to me how your civic with a fart can and cool air intake is so much cooler. Just stop, so,weak.

Cards are only shifting in bundles for the first year to deter crypto. The only reason they shift faster than nvidia is because for general compute they are literally better cards than NVidia's offering.

Do i have need to upgrade processor (4770k) if i upgrade from 780gtx to 1080ti?

Obviously the Ti. It has more letters.

Are you bitter that you let reddit's buildapc design your build right before AMD stepped up and disrupted the market so you paid through the nose for performance that a year from now won't even be considered relevant anymore?

Ti.
Cos it has the extra bit at the end

Ti. Given that you're already paying that much for three letters and four numbers, that much more for two extra letters is a bargain even if one of them is lowercase.

I mean its not like anyone's selling unlocked cards at a flat base rate these days, is it? Why would anyone do that when they can milk you more money for them to do it for you?

Your big stubby fat fingers would just fuck it up anyway so you should be thanking NVidia.

Whe, you get your first job and try nvidia you will never go back. Until then stick with the post purchase rationalizations autismo.

DNot buy best buy. Buy from energy or tiger direct. Look at the super combos on news and build you rig around the gpu and a current gen i5. 2000 is plenty to build a very decent rig.

Yawn 5k in it but that's cute. Water cooled,everything. Expendable income is a foreign concept to you.

Be a shame if I just 'bought whatever I like' stay nd gaymd fanboy.

No, Nvidia doesn't, unless 11 is a bigger number than 12.

Right, overclocking by definition is running higher than spec core or memory clock. Bottle-necking is when a component is restricting you from achieving the best possible performance (eg you have a fucking tasty graphics card but an Intel celery, you're still gonna get shitty fps).

Unless you're doing something extremely CPU intensive, no.

Even the old 2600k performs exceptionally well with most modern games.

I physically winced.

>xD
Go with them

Ti is better for ether mining

But I know very little about computers. That's why I need it already made. That's why I need advice on what the already made computer needs. That's why I asked about the 1080 Ti.

By all means, if you enjoy the smell of burning money feel free. I'm not in a position to stop you from slamming your own testicles in a car door because you're just some low-end gamer who only needs 32 point float performance (which let's be honest holds developers back knowing your computer can't run the code they want to write, which is why UE4 still only supports 32bit float out of the box unless you modify it) all for that juicy 5-8% performance gap and an inferior wattage/flop ratio. I bet you couldn't even use 32GB of RAM up.

This is literally the same mindset of console gamers who hold back developers from really blowing their load on PCs.

You are the console gamers of PC users. As a software developer, I cannot tell you how greatful I am that your choice in cards doesn't support a lot of the big open world shit I would just love to do because NVidia doesn't think you need it and arbitrarily disable it so their sales of grownup cards isn't cannibalized.

I could forgive not knowing about overclocking and bottlenecking, but fuck, OP come on.

OP here

I don't understand. Why would you wince over that?

Ladies and gentlemen, a Intel/Nvidia's target market.

you're wasting big money on pre-made, thats why

I can't tell if this is some next-level trolling or if you just like the idea of paying twice as much for half the performance because touching computer guts might give you nerd cooties.

At this point, why don't you just buy a mac?

Not if you live in the UK. Separate parts cost the same if not more in total.

If you're an enthusiast, don't go there.

OP here

I just wouldn't know what I'm doing if I tempted to build a computer myself.

but some cards are sold OC'd
but yeah it's not recommended by the manufacturer bc it will typically wear out faster

4K not 4x. 4K refers to the horizontal pixel length whereas all prior referred to the vertical pixel length. It's a marketing gimmick.

Its 2017 and Youtube exists. You literally have no excuse to not know how to do something in an era where information is free and well presented.

Buy parts and build a computer from scratch! Seriously, they're shaped in such a way that it's not that much different from putting together a jigsaw puzzle! You could assemble one in like an hour or so.