So, Sup Forums, I've gotta ask

So, Sup Forums, I've gotta ask.

Why do you support the "Alt-Right" movement?

I'm not going to judge, I just want to know.

As a second, why are most people on Sup Forums right leaning? Not judging, again, just curious.

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i don't even know what he alt-right actually stands for.
I support common sense. Something that seams to be not so common after all.

At their most extreme: the alt-right want to benefit the white race.

At their most extreme: the far leftist want to exterminate the white race.

If you're a white man living in America, and you know that each side is moving toward their respective extremes, are you gonna join the people who want to help you or the people that want to hurt you?

I don't.

I do however support people's right to demonstrate for causes that I may personally disagree with. Makes zero difference to me if _______ race wants to hold a pride rally.

Both sides have demonstrated the capacity to cannibalize their own because.

because this board is full of autistic retards and trolls, there you have your answer OP

Well I'm not 'Alt-Right' (A movement made up entirely of LARPing fags) But I could understand why someone might see me as one of them so I guess I could speak for the Alt-right

I think its mostly about the other side (Antifa and BLM) Pushing their agenda onto everything with constant anti-white sentiments now leaking into the government and whilst not putting whites at a disadvantage but putting non-whites races on a pedestal with affirmative action and so fourth.

tl;dr Its a movement breed out of hate from the other side

> right leaning
That's cause we have a gov. that tends to appear leftist, but is acting more right.
So being right leaning in extend means, not being left leaning.
Of course any lefty will tell you, that the gov. is more right, than left and thus you positioning yourself right from the gov. must mean you're a full blown white supremacist.
In reality most of us are close to the middle, our references are just fucked beyond recognition.

I honestly can't stand the right, so I suppose you could say I'm left leaning, but only very mildly. I think the far left is full of insane people who insist on eradicating race, and the far right is full of ignorant conservative jackasses who think it's still 1825.

The Alt-Right is despicable. There is no reason to become a Nazi other than to hate on a people that did no wrong. Also, Nazis who say they joined because they hate blacks are retarded. Nazis hated Jewish people.

In the end, both sides are fucking retarded, and in the end, nobody fucking wins.

Let me guess, your knowledge about Nazi Germany extends to 'they didn't like minorities, so they're evil'.
I get what you're on about, but at the same time you have to realize.
That was common behavior at that time, thinking certain races were inferior. It's not like they were the first/only/last to do it. And the entirety of the third reich was not built solely on xenophobia, but a feeling of community and purpose, in your own life, as well as inside your community. Taking responsibility for the state of your community and country, for the public discourse, etc.
Attributes that I would like to see again, even though they can be easily abused.
Not that far left ideals are harder to abuse.

That would be wildly incorrect. I am knowledgeable about Nazi Germany, considering I live in the nation. I am perfectly aware that the state was xenophobic of many things, but their largest targeted group was the Jewish population. Hence, the previous comment. I am perfectly aware they also killed blacks, disabled people, basically anyone inferior to the average white German.

And you have to see that that patriotism became nationalism, which is the absolute worst of patriotism. One becomes horrible because of it. I don't hate patriotic people, but when your patriotism becomes hateful and nationalistic, that's when you need to stop.

And yes. Most places in the Thirties through Forties were segregated and most minorites were shunned. But that doesn't make it right.

same....never considered myself alt right, whatever the fuck that is...what I dont like is someone calling something its not...and down right dumb fucks thinking they know it all

I disagree. At the most extreme, alt-right isn't just about benefiting the "white race," it is more about white supremacy at its most extreme.

Fuck my race.

>Why do you support the "Alt-Right" movement?

Because I'm not a nigger faggot twink snowflake.

t. guy that knows nothing about leftism except for what they see on tumblr

Niggers

/thread

White people are snowflakes. They think their race is special.

...

What does CNN's dick taste like?

I'm a communist. But not an American "communist" that supports tranny supremacy

This nig woke af.

Alt-right = Nazi?

The same exact thing huh?

Damn, I didn't know that. I feel so woke rn.

very simple.
want to fuck traps but not be a gay fucking leftist. also don't have a job because of fucking blacks and jews

Most of us are just here for the porn

Only black people and native Americans seem to think their race is special.

White people KNOW we are special. So are Asians. Sorry not sorry for being the smartest, most civilized and creative culture in the history of mankind.

word, nigga

I like to think I'm pretty familiar with their politics and the politics of the traditional right.
>junkie here

The Alt-Right rose largely as a consequence of an era which combined "an increasingly popular sentiment that whites should be discriminated against (or outright removed) to solve past injustice" and the availability of race realist literature online. As academia and the left as a whole continued to insist that white politics should take a back seat to minority politics, they naturally alienated the concerns of young whites, whites who may have even been left-leaning, Obama supporters or civic nationalists at one point...

As for my personal inclinations, I must admit that I see eye-to-eye with much of the Alt-Right in terms of their criticisms of modern society such as immigration, crime rate, etc. Where I get off is generally policy as my principles are firmly rooted with freedom and libertarianism. But unlike most mainstream, self-professed libertarians and establishment Republicans, I understand that immigration policies intended to alter the demographics of a society will also lead to the abandonment of those values, especially if such a society is a non-discriminating democracy. You can't import people who have voted socialism for an entire century and suddenly expect them to respect the free market and a free society... But this is where I get off the Alt-Right train. They prioritize preserving the traditional demographics of America, but in doing so, I fear they will abandon the goal of a free society in doing so and will ultimately establish a large government that will drag itself closer and closer to socialism and our eventual enslavement to the state.

If anything, to better understand the Alt-Right, you must realize that its not a monolith. There are competing ideological factions within it that are alien to one another in terms of principles.

Cont.
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One of these factions within the Alt-Right are the anarcho-capitalist/minarchist/libertarians. These forces are attempting to drag the Alt-"Right" further to the genuine right as opposed to its current disposition. They believe that the welfare state is the primary cancer upon society and inhibits the nation from optimizing the people's condition via the free market. This faction is firm in its conviction that the state should not interfere within the lives of her constituents and that force should not be applied where unnecessary and uneven when necessary. In their free society, they believe that individuals incapable of operating effectively in a competitive environment while vote with their feet and pursue a life in a society that will support them with welfare or arrive in a less competitive environment better suited to their ability (these would be blacks and latinos according to the Alt-Right). But where these lads diverge from classical liberalism is on immigration. They believe in the existence of strict immigration policy. (This is where I line up)

Can you share some of your achievements with us?

The Other faction of the Alt-"Right" are not exactly right wing at all in my opinion. While both factions oppose Marxism/Communism, the Left end of the Alt-Right, the Nazi larpers, see the goal of their movement to reject Marxism. It may seem as if their primary concern is other races, but I contest it is the rejection of Marxism. Marxism, as they believe it, is a civilization shaking force that is actively opposed to successful demographics. It was designed to turn the West on its head by sparking the class war, but it has evolved to push the race war. The Marxists have focused their efforts on flooding Europe and America with populations willing to support their causes. If it were not for the mass immigration policies, many proponents of this faction of the Alt-Right would not have a movement to latch on to or a qualm to cry about. By removing minorities, they believe they can stem to rise of Marxism and protect their civilization.. and they are somewhat correct in my assessment, but like I said, I fear they will abandon freedom in their attempt to do so and flirt increasingly with the type of authoritarianism that Germany saw in the 1930s. I do not believe these people to be genuine right-winged in terms of their philosophy and principles. They are racial collectivists with the intent to protest the state into forcibly pursuing their ends. They care not for a free market so long as their country is primarily white. Unfortunately, in increasing the size of the state, they will eventually evoke socialism and finally, national socialism. This is the Nazi arm of the Alt-Right, and I'm afraid they'll take the libertarians down with them.

As for right-wing politics in general, I am right-wing because of my understanding of and respect for free markets, republican ( as in system not necessarily the party) forms of government and emphasis on individuality and personal liberty. However, I support strong borders and strict franchise in terms of who should and should not be considered citizens and who should and should not participate within choosing government representatives. Capitalism has brought hundreds of millions of people out of true poverty and free markets are the goal, not necessarily a racially homogeneous state. A racially homogeneous state is merely the means to this goal.

Sorry for the length, I hope my token of tits is satisfactory for your time.

^This

>I'm a closeted faggot

jesus, learn to be succinct

>At their most extreme: the far leftist want to exterminate the white race.
No, they really don't, they just want equality, and recognise that minorities have had it so shit for so long that simply changing a few laws is not enough, and bias and poverty are still making it really difficult for those minorities to break out.

Anyone who actually wants to exterminate white people is a fringe lunatic, I'm moderate left, I know a lot of far left people, and I've never once encountered anyone who actually wanted to exterminate white people.

Met plenty of people who wanted to exterminate jews and blacks though.

>Capitalism has brought hundreds of millions of people out of true poverty
>hundreds of millions of people out of true poverty
>hundreds of millions

No.

I support it insomuch as it's funnier, and PC culture is annoying.
People take that shit too seriously.

If you're incapable of reading a modest paper, then you probably shouldn't be engaging within political discourse let along participating within your representative democracy.

Are the goyim still fighting about this, wow brainwashing too strong.

It certainly has you fool. Keep typing away at your computer and internet access while denying the fact that lay before your very eyes. Capitalism has spoiled you. We are the richest generation who has ever walked this Earth and we achieved it primarily through the free market via consent and trade.

>Met plenty of people who wanted to exterminate jews and blacks though
That's the left's problem.
They take people on the right literally, but not seriously.

>Sup Forums scholar

I think the US should have said good riddance to the South back in 1861.
Eventually the white nationalists would have had their all white country and the North would live happy ever after with industry, technology and freedom.

He probably thinks poverty means basic cable and a used car.

>good riddance
>to the primary source of national income at the time
I wish school would start back up.
Fucking kids.

This. alt left and the left in general don't want whites to exist in predominantly white countries.

Complaining about Capitalism on a website which is kept alive with ads or paying subscribers. Ironic isn't it? you commie

Nazi Germany was the greatest country in the world to live in up until the turning point in the war. from 1933-1941 it was basically a utopia

agreed.

what has the Midwest/south contributed to the US since?

Blue states = trillion dollar economies.
Red states = welfare states.

We keep sending hundreds of billions to red states for subsidies and welfare.

Wow.
Those numbers so didn't come straight out of your ass.

If anyone's definition of poverty is of the such, ie. basic cable and a used car, and not the never-ending nightmare that is Africa where property rights are not respected, then that is privilege.

The miracle of Germany wasn't to last if we are to take the lessons learned from other autocratic socialist regimes to heart.

Sorry I butthurt you my Texan friend.
Finished school in 07'
Did my time in the army as well.
The north at the time had their own economy, south picked cotton for a living. Looks like you guys are still at it today.

Why? Okay.

Read this:

chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-teens-south-side-carjacking20170815-story.html

2 kids, 14 and 15, carjack a 45 year old guy and at gunpoint and take his car.

They're not taken to jail, treated as adults who are fucking armed to the teeth. They're taken to a juvenile care facility awaiting trial.

The mother (or grandmother, they all seem to live with their 38 year old grandmother) will say they're good boys, they just never had a role model. The family pastor will come down and say that they just need some industrial strength churching and a hand around their shoulder. In the meantime the cops who brought them in and "made them" crash into a car during their pursuit, destroying 2 innocent peoples cars, will be called racist for responding to a description of 2 black teenagers that match their descriptions.

They'll sit in jail for a year or so before 70 more events exactly like this will happen with 140+ kids exactly like them, so they'll be rotated out of the system, greeted by their friends as heroes, who will celebrate their release from incarceration by drumming up a party car by carjacking some guy off the street.

This happens on a fairly regular basis in the southside of chicago. In one of the hipster neighborhoods, a guy said no 2 weeks ago and was shot and killed. Nobody is in custody.

The left says we need to treat each and every one of these kids fairly and with compassion and sympathy because they didn't get the same advantages as white people. I'll point out that I grew up dirt poor in the 80's and didn't have enough money to go to college, yet somehow avoided not going to jail. They'll say it was white privilege. So the cycle turns,and theyll continue like this until they eventually kill someone. And they'll go to jail for 15 years, where they'll be released only to do it again.

And us demanding they be kept locked up is "racist".

you're on an anonymous image board, the definition of free speech, the left atm is trying to push this communist/anti-freedom agenda.

the people here who aren't right wing are either very close to the middle or are sjw's/gays that came with the reddit/tumblr raids and never stopped trolling.

also the alt-right at least has a point white people have contributed the most to human civilization.

Oops. wrong webm. But it shows their mentality "Oh, train started moving, it was my stop, force the doors open so I can get out, fuck everyone elses saftey"

This is retarded for a number of reasons.

1) Many of those blue states used to be historically red states and those blue cities were built by free markets and republican policies. Apparently you've only been paying attention to politics since the past election cycle, got your history from late-night comedians and now believe you're an expert on economic systems.

2) Many of the blue states are blue states primarily because of a handful of very large blue cities. Blue cities are constantly trying to increase the scope of their welfare programs and re-distributive policies. In order to keep themselves afloat, they petition not on their county, but their states and even the federal government to provide them with tax payer money.
>b-but why don't they just use their own tax money
Because that's not enough and since it would be redundant for these cities to coerce taxes from one another, where do you think they get it? That's right, from RURAL communities. State and Federal subsidies to major cities must logically come from increased taxes on rural communities and artificially expanding the money supply via the federal reserve (which is a tax in itself).

3) Red states have lower rates of welfare. They're republican after all. Blue states are generous with the handouts, but that's not suggesting that red states won't take federal subsidies when offered (ie. AR and OH).

Furthermore, the cost of living is substantially lower in red states because of lower taxes. Most people within the city cannot afford a single car and must rely on public transportation while the "poor" red state, rural peoples, often own their own homes and have multiple vehicles... because you know, they're poor n shit.

Good god, you're fucking stupid.

Because i am a father. The left in any capacity will make her future one of degeneracy and resident mental illness with disregard to morality and education.

Why don't you OP?

You're an idiot. Check census data. Largest groups of welfare recipients are whites in red states. Nice try pushing your agenda with statistically false points.

Okay, so here's the run down:
>Sup Forums was a place for outsiders, moderate leaning taken altogether, but outside of Sup Forums it was never particularly political
>Anonymous gains traction as a social movement and targets shitty people across the political spectrum.
>Stormfront, a neo-nazi forum, got the idea to use the outsider nature of most Sup Forums users to rally them around their fringe political ideology.
>They planted propaganda on Sup Forums for a couple of years, turning it into the giant unbearable neo-nazi pile of garbage that it is.
>This eventually spread to Sup Forums
>The alt-right is born as a re-branding of neo-nazism and white supremacist ideology.

Essentially they were tricked into believing in something that they don't understand. They internalized the hateful message because the stormfags had utterly convinced them that these other groups of people (blacks, gays, liberals) were a direct threat to their existence. They preyed on our insecurities until we melted like butter. It just goes to show that Nietzsche was right, we really do become the beasts that we fight.

>Medicaid
Because a lot of them are fucking old and actually have the resources to afford medical care themselves, but are given money either way because the federal system is broken

>the far leftist want to exterminate the white race.
alt left and the left in general don't want whites to exist in predominantly white countries.

Oh wow, do people actually believe this? I thought it was just a meme

I don't support them and I've been here for about 10 years. I ignore their shit posting, along with traps, cuck threads, furries, and all other creeper shit. Admittedly, there's not a lot here for me now. It's mostly just nostalgia for the lulz.

Thanks, this makes sense. I really appreciate the post, (not OP, btw).

find one leftist or farleft publication that praises the white people that designed this form of countryhood?

>the democrats are effectively deplatforming whites
>academia continues to rant over the evils of whites
>racial supremacist movements that are antiwhite are gaining traction

I can't believe people actually believe this meme. You silly Alt-Right cucks are just racists, is that it?

+1. I mostly post on other less autistic boards but come back here every now and then.

unfortunately he was wrong. Black Power, Asian Invasion, Latin Pride, Muslim Pride etc are all praised by the leftists. White Pride however is racist. Pure idiocy and why the Left and the alt Left are cancer to any country whites live in predominately.

Why does anyone feel proud of their colour? You were born with it. You didn't earn it. You didn't even chose it.

The left and the alt-right are just as bad as each other. Both are cringey af and seem to think they play an important part in the world, both are violent and then cry when violence happens to them, both have nothing better to do than talk about how the other is terrible and violent, both are really fucking biased and both are fucking man children that need to grow up.

Yeah, you shouldn't be proud of your ancestors, dirty goyim. You have to legitimize your self-worth, goyim. Your ancestors didn't create civilization, don't be proud, goyim.

I don't. I am a liberal. Not an SJW retard, but a centrist that's left leaning.

For the shekels of course.
Did you think we did it for free?

Have you really achieved so little in your life you have to take pride in the acomplishments of others?

> our references are just fucked beyond recognition.
This is the only correct part in your post, but not in the way you think.
As a non-american, your governments (not just the current one) never appeared "leftist" to the rest of the world. More like moderate right (even Dem administrations like Obama).

This is just more of this bullshit. Why can't one be proud of whatever one wants to be? You can't be proud of your father, goyim. Forget why you're here, goyim!

The parties did a major switch after the civil rights era.

Most red states are cesspools of heroin, welfare and shit.
NY, IL, CA and other large cities states will never be poor states. It's where all the education, technology, wealth and innovation are. Also population is there.

Most people are proud on their country not color of skin. Plenty of Greeks, Italians, Irish and Polish carry their flags around with pride.

The only group that can't do that are Germans, because of nazism.

Do you have any real retort or are you just going to keep saying "goyim"? By your logic I can be proud of the Japanese rugby team's performance in the last world cup, despite having no connection to them, their country, or even having played the sport before.

I remember when Sup Forums used to raid Nazi forums etc.
I think we ironically pretended to be racist for long enough for actual racists to believe they were in good company

>>At their most extreme: the far leftist want to exterminate the white race.
>No, they really don't
Um...

Anyway, as to why people here sympathize at times with alt right, I think it's because anonymity is the only way to express some views without being destroyed by the leftist media. They are hunting down and outing all the participants at Charlottesville, while not even reporting the violence initiated by the Leftist counterprotesters.

I'm German, dare tell me my government is not trying to appear left.
Left and right are very broad blanket terms, maybe the words in- and exclusive behavior, were more applicable, in my post.
Meaning, the government acts like it wants to support and include all disadvantaged people, yet their actions tend to shut everybody out, save for a few at the top.
Thus, the right thinks the image portrayed by the government is key, while the left points towards their actions and says they're right wing.
Meanwhile the gov. does what it wants and laughs at the different camps struggling to shift blame and pride to their respective sides.

You faggot leftists are always crying on here. Go to pol/

Fucking idiot question considering that 'alt right' is a derogatory term originally brought forth by the cum slurping left.

Thought process:

>you're right of me? Alt right fash!

kys

This isn't leftism. It's bullshit.

Sorry man, I thought you were talking about Trump and the US government.
You're spot on about Germany,

>blacks stole your job
Yeah nice joke there faggot. In what world lol

>not even reporting
So, how do you know about it?

Fuck antifa

Yes, leftists deny that the far left is leftism. Convenient.
DNC Chair candidate: "We have to teach them how to communicate, how to be sensitive and how to shut their mouths if they are white."

Imagine saying that about faggots or nigs or women.

pretty much this, I never gave a shit about the politics honestly until
insert buzzfeed, gawker, fake left media here.
started talking about how evil white people are, because they're white.
I went from not giving a shit, to wanting to murder the nazi antifa and blm
fuck that trash, they want a fight they have a fight

Same thing, got youngins, the far left and the far right could fuck them up with their own degeneracy, but more so the the far left with their gender spectrum, Islam is peaceful, etc. I'll teach my kids to be proud but not arrogant and full of themselves about their country. It's one thing to be proud and love your country, it's another to be aggro to others about how good it is and be a douche.

> As a second, why are most people on Sup Forums right leaning? Not judging, again, just curious.

It's not that most people on Sup Forums are right leaning, it's that the vocal left has pushed the definition of center so hard to the left in their eyes that anyone who isn't already extremely left is considered right.

The VAST majority of people you meet on Sup Forums or reddit or even in the real world are fairly centrist, but the Left want to call them "the right" so they feel like it's an us vs them thing

I'm not so much pro-"Alt.Right" as anti-niggerlover and anti-muslim-cucks

Browsing through photographs and seeing ones like this...
Find an msm article that talks about it.
Protip: you can't.

I'm slightly center left. But fuck political correctness so a lot of people think I'm pretty far right.

Show me all the people killed by antifa.

Yes, I'm sure this was a legitimate poster and not put up by someone to fuck with them.

I'm sure if we see a "we captured a couple of jews and niggers, we're having a lynching on September 25th in the park" it would be totes legit too, broski.

Pretty sure most of the people are just trolling and who ever is not is fucking stupid. Definitely judging.

No, it isn't leftism; it's racism and you are right to call it out. But call it what it is.

just because they need 10 on 1 just to do some damage doesn't mean that 100 aren't dangerous.
Yes they are autistic isis that can't do shit right, but even a retard with a hand grenade is still a threat.
won't bother mentioning, the stomping over people, bike lock attempts and others