A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...

>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

What did they mean by this?

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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get a gun, cause you're the militia.

It means if you're in a government sanctioned official militia, you are allowed to apply for a temporary permit to rent a musket for use only in official militia activities.

Will this change if females are included in the draft?

Everyone is part of the militia

You could argue the 14th's Equal Protection Clause already makes it apply to women.

but not people over 45

if they're older and willing good luck stopping them.

and yet the amendment says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, not the right of agents of the state to apply for a gun permit shall be processed in 4-6 weeks

But will they actually have to rewrite anything?

Dunno. Most people don't even know that's written into the law.

that same sex marriage is a right

SHALL

"the right of the people" not "the right of the militia" m8

this

>well regulated Militia
do these still exist?

>the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
It's clearly pointing out that the people of the Regulated Militia have a right to use arms. Obviously those arms refer to only muskets, cause they were the most advanced weapon at the time. The creators of the 2nd never intended for people to own fully semiautomatic combat military assault weapons designed to kill.

It means, fuck the police yo.

Sure... they are the leading cause of birdwatching facility invasions.

Yes.

"Militia" means a community defending itself, the only requirement for which being the right to bear arms. As opposed to feudalism or "social democracy" where only the king's men are allowed to bear arms.

The idea behind the second amendment was to leave the government's hands off and instead leave a gun behind every blade of grass. It worked until people stopped respecting it.

Guns allowed, no military superpower, just the necessary to keep the nation safe

I really hope this is bait. The founding fathers new full well that arms evolve over time. There were actually some pretty scary looking rapid fire guns around during the time the founding fathers were alive. Coincidently they were all huge fans.

daily reminder the founding fathers had a national gun registry

A decently sized group of people with guns, separate from the government, is necessary to keep a state free of tyranny.

As such, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

But why did people lose respect? Was there simply no threat that was considered existential enough to keep it?

>tyranny
>implying

Read Madison notes you slimy jew

People need to be free from "the king", and to be able to achieve this, they (the free) are to be capible of choosing their own destiny (with arms).

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Started post civil war. So many young American men died that the idea of guns changed and the American gun market tanked.

The rapid fire guns were unreliable, not easy to carry into a mall and use, and were pretty expensive.
Face it, the musket was the zenith of firearms at the time. Why do you people support the killing of children and minorities?

Obviously because minorities aren't white and children are weak and annoying.

Duh.

James Madison addressed while he was president that cannons to fight off pirates were allowed under the second amendment. Just muskets is fucking stupid. The founders loved the expensive guns the only reason muskets were so popular in the military was because they were cheap.

>Face it, the musket was the zenith of firearms at the time. Why do you people support the killing of children and minorities?

I know you're b8, but since this is one of those argument honing threads to better prepare our austimal anons to debate, the founding fathers were perfectly content with merchants and anyone else who could afford it to own ships with crew and canon, which routinely had more artillery than some colonial armies. Where did they limit that?

Based P&T, as usual.

If I had to guess, I'd say it meant that a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Okay fine. Muskets, cannons (only on Official Militia boats) and maybe shotguns cause Based Biden suggested them.
>The founders loved the expensive guns the only reason muskets were so popular in the military was because they were cheap.
Sounds like the type of trick a 1% corporate fatcat would do. Say everyone has the right to arms but make the effective ones too costly for the average person to afford.

Just another reason why only muskets should be allowed. Should the rich ever rebel against the People's Government and it's official militia, they won't be better armed than us.

The first part explains why the amendment is needed, and is called a prefatory clause.

What they probably meant was that so long as suicide rates were below a certain breakpoint, you could have a .22 for strictly for hunting purposes.

>fully semi automatic
Dugan pls go

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That's wrong, though.

>the founding fathers were perfectly content with merchants and anyone else who could afford it to own ships with crew and canon, which routinely had more artillery than some colonial armies. Where did they limit that?
They couldn't. I'm sure they would if they were alive today, or had the power back then.

It's like saying they didn't initiate free medical care or free college. It doesn't mean they didn't want it, they just couldn't afford it at the time.

WELL REGULATED MEANS WELL SUPPLIED NOT WELL GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED

Pic is Captain John Parker. Militia commander when Bitish came to Lexington Green. Purpose was to confiscate stored arms which included one cannon. The statement did not exist until the Revolution. The 2nd Amendment is primarilary to allow Citizens to react to,a Tyranical Police State, which is what America is now. Mark Levin today stated the US is NO longer. Civil Society. Your question is not specific enough to say much such as WHEN not why or what. You we need arms more than ever. Lies and other tyrants in Washington have gone too far. They have exposed their plans and even to overthrow the constitution. Now (5-16-2016) both parties have been rigging the pre-election aka primary for generations. I read many books on the revolution. We are so close, can you smell the powder? ( gun powder I must add!)

I ment to say "ATER" the revolution the 2nd Amend added and ratified with or just after as the bill of rights. They cannot be modified individually.