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Watch you talkin about Willis

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How?

Ivan, put down the vodka. You've had enough today.

literally who

How what?

HOLY SHIT HE KNEW ABOUT THE THREAD?

Who cares? I didn't take the survey.

>HOLY SHIT HE KNEW ABOUT THE THREAD?
He shilled his channel here for years. He also has a plethora of nazi images saved from here, so it shouldn't be surprising.

who?

>left libertarian
There's that phrase again

Did he make this just so he can shrug off the
>ONLY CHILDREN WATCH YOUR VIDEOS

i posted in the thread and took part in rigging the survey

this

Yeah, I just watched the video. I don't understand how you could possibly be both collectivist and libertarian.

self fellating stathiest faggot
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>everybody makes a quick buck off Sup Forums except for Sup Forums

When is Sup Forums gonna become a funded governing entity?

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banana in ass

i know fuck that stathiest.

This faggot virals his shit here daily. He's a fucking shill.

Because no one is consistent, and people hold different views on different issues. As someone who is not a 'left libertarian', I can still fully understand what they want. You may think you're a perfectly logical human being who has no inconsistencies or bias's but guess what: you're fucking not.

Is it that hard for you to grasp that some people like collectivist economic policies but individualist social policies?

yeah its just wording, still hate them fucking stathiests though.
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>Is it that hard for you to grasp that some people like collectivist economic policies but individualist social policies?
No, but it's an oxymoron and only stupid people use that term in the context you described. Actual left-libertarianism is anarcho-communism which is still fucking retarded. The word libertarian implies freedom, collectivist economic policies that are based on coercion is not freedom and should be placed in the authoritarian side of the spectrum. It's like how people unironically place Bernie Sanders on the libertarian side.

>You may think you're a perfectly logical human being who has no inconsistencies or bias's but guess what: you're fucking not.
But I am. Don't try to drag other people down because you're not confident.

>You may think you're a perfectly logical human being who has no inconsistencies or biases but guess what: you're fucking not.

Burden of proof is on the claimant. Furthermore, you winding up in the green square isn't just an inconsistency or two. It's a shit ton of inconsistency.

>"I believe that there should be little to no state, and people should be free, but they shouldn't have to face the consequences of their own actions. I basically want anarcho-communism or anarcho-socialism, despite the fact that this has never succeeded wherever it has been practiced, and needed to either be subsidized by authoritarian regimes, capitalistic nations, or reform."

It's laughable.

>But I am.

Go tip your fedora elsewhere sperg

It's not about confidence. I am perfectly confident in my beliefs, I'm just self aware enough to realise that on a base level some of them are contradictory

For reference I am about 4 squares right of centre and in the centre in the up-down spectrum

tis fucking vile

>implying pol cares enough about some negroid

Her opposition to term limits seems innocuous compared to the rest of the degeneracy she preaches, but it is serious. Term limits means that the voters abdicate their responsibility and cripple their voting rights. It also adds to dysfunctional government because competent people are removed from their duties arbitrarily. Pic related was a member of Parliament from the 1950s to the 1980s and served his country honorably his whole life.

>I'm a centrist and hold contradictory views, therefore everyone does.
Ok.

Oh great it is this faggot shilling for our attention again.

I didnt expected his poll to get that much votes

Okay I'll retract my statement

Most people think they're a perfectly logical human being who has no inconsistencies or bias's but guess what: they're fucking fucking not.

Those are are perfectly consistent and end up holding extreme views are genuinely autistic and probably have other mental health issues.

This isn't a surprise. The site has been in decline for several years.

>they're fucking fucking not.
I'm pretty perfect senpai

HOLY SHIT JUST REALIZED MY POST IS IN THE VIDEO

It's the one that says "bump 4 potential"

>shilling for our attention
by the looks of things, he actually got your attention. Shame on you, Sup Forums

i can actually use sage tho unlike you

Oh, so now you're going for the ad homs, in order for you to feel morally/mentally superior, despite your contradictions? That's rather sad.

Next you'll probably retract THAT and say that regular people won't like them, at which point I'll be a living example of proving you wrong, as I have been happily married for 5 years in a month, and have been best man at 3 weddings and a groomsman at a 4th, and will be best man at least 2 more times in the next year (I've already been asked).

Then you'll probably claim that I'm rich, which I'm not, unless you consider 16/hr to be rich, when the wife doesn't work, and that I've been homeless for 6 months during the winter.

Then I'll wonder what your rebuttal will be?

Culturally libertarian, fiscally collectivist.

Is that really so hard to understand? I see this question all the time.

Because you can't be fiscally collectivist without a large government, which would defy libertarian beliefs.

See my post here:

Meh i took the survey and came out libertarian right. Only slightly either direction.

Realized its kind of fun to be in the center and yell at everyone.

Kind of sad when a centrist see's fascism as the only logical choice to save our world.

Ideally i would prefer a libertarian themed world but with borders. Call me crazy, but i want all the rights and freedoms available on earth, but don't want to be inundated with poo's.

Who is that even? I only occaisionally watch Shapiro the kike, and only because he's great to know what's happening in US currently.

Everyone I know calls me conservative. I generally hold paleocon views, which includes a distrust of corporate power too. I'm moderate on gays, but other than that generally fall in line with Sam Francis. Still this is what I get.

>Culturally libertarian, fiscally retarded

is sargon still butthurt after that debate?
he seems to shit on the right alot even in his gameplay videos

You can have a large government without infringing on people's freedom of speech, privacy, sexuality, traditions, political opinions and religious beliefs.

The new american left is authoritarian in both culture and fiscal policy, that's why people with more classical liberal values in the left felt like they have to make a distinction. They like socialism to a varying degree, but they don't agree with the cultural marxist suppression of speech and free thought.

>You can have a large government without infringing on people's freedom of speech, privacy, sexuality, traditions, political opinions and religious beliefs.
Not for long, you can't. Basically, that entire policy is that everyone should be free to do what they want, but the consequences of those actions (both good and bad) should be shared by the community. This kills responsibility and innovation, and rewards incompetence, leading to atrophy and decline.

The test is shit, that's why it's possible to be a "left-libertarian".
Sargon is retarded, that's why the test considers him a "left-libertarian", and why he considers himself a classical liberal (Sargon, you aren't).
It's no more complicated than that.

What debate?

This. Healthcare for instance, if I'm being forced by the gubbament to pay for your healthcare through taxation then I have a stake in your health and your bad habits. This is why european countries have tried things like obesity taxes to control what people do.

His problem is that he has a large right wing following because he rejects feminist-progressivism, Islam, and mass immigration. This gives his progressive enemies ammunition to dismiss him as right wing even though he is a social democrat in practice.

His conflict with Sup Forums is different. He uses Sup Forums memes and quite often mentions "chimpouts" as the reason progressives are the real feminists. He's pretty intelligent, but can't branch out beyond the low hanging fruit because he isn't well educated. This means that he can report on tumblrinas and Cologne, but he'll never get to the core of the issues. Sup Forums also resents that he makes about $2000 per video despite declining quantity and quality.

I personally think he's alright, but wish he would stop shilling himself here. It gets old. There's more to politics than a college dropout with 300k subscribers on Youtube.

Don't forget the USSR, which provided free abortions on demand, until the birthrate plummeted to near zero, at which point the government switched positions, and outlawed abortions with a vacation to the gulag if you were caught.

As far as "lack of innovation," the USSR was STILL practicing "light therapy," as a treatment for cancer right up until it collapsed in the early 90's.

I hope a shitskin rapes his kid. Chances are not to low for it to happen.

I want this to see this fence sitting faggots world crush before his pseudo intellectual eyes

>Nearly 55% percent of his audience are left-leaning lolbertarians
I knew he fostered idiots but not this many

>Not for long, you can't. Basically, that entire policy is that everyone should be free to do what they want, but the consequences of those actions (both good and bad) should be shared by the community. This kills responsibility and innovation, and rewards incompetence, leading to atrophy and decline.

I am not a "left libertarian" myself, but I will play devil's advocate for the sake of discussion.

European nations like Germany have applied a hybrid system of socialism and competitive capitalism. For example everyone has to have a pension, unemployment and health insurance. But a person with sufficient income can opt-out of the government programs and get a private alternative, which rewards meritocracy and simulates free market competition to some degree.

The idea is to mitigate the negative effects of socialism that you have described with meritocratic principles. You can survive without working, but if you want to enjoy high living standards then you will have to get a good job.

Didn't your birthrate hit the lowest in the world before you started importing Muslims?

If that isn't stagnation, I don't know what is.

I think they believe that tribalist communism can exist, that is non-government mandated communal groups advocating on behalf of one another. Other than that I really don't know. It's like those "anarcho-communists" I guess they bought Marx's empirically wrong theory of the primitive Communist.

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I'm not sure what that has to do with the birthrate.

But those exact things are why our birth rates have collapsed, why our politics are hard left, why properties just keep getting more expensive, why middle class incomes are declining, etc

Specifically among europe you have outrageous amounts of unemployment

Taking off my devil's advocate hat for this.

Yes, both increased full time employment of women and increased social security have led to plummeting birth rates.

The welfare system requires a constant or growing population to function correctly. The young people pay for the social security of the old people, that's how the system is intended to work. No young people means collapsing pension pay-outs and additional payments for increasingly expensive medical treatments.

This is the unofficial, but well known reason behind the mass immigration.

A different socialist response to the problem would be to incentivize motherhood, which by the way is already happening. Parents get money from the state for having children and maternity leaves are supposed to have no negative financial impacts. These efforts where either not effective enough, or didn't yield results fast enough to make up for the plummeting birth rates. Hence Merkel's crazy martyr immigration plan.

Yeah, I've said this hundreds of times but I've given up on it desu. The site is designed to force you towards the green square with loaded questions.

>socialism
>competitive capitalism
Pick one. Literally. You can't have competitive capitalism if the markets aren't free.

>Not effective enough.
I appreciate you speaking frankly, but you didn't have to worry about birth rates before you decided to give everyone a comfortable life. I believe a similar experiment was tried with mice, and the result was the same. They were given everything they needed to survive and breed, without ever needing to try, and within a generation or two, birth rates plummeted until the entire colony died a few generations later.

So, my response to the "not effective enough," is that doing nothing didn't result in any problems for thousands of years, so perhaps the best solution is to take the gloves off, and let society do what society does, without much government intervention, shy of creating and enforcing laws, while protecting society's borders from external threats.

Something similar happened in the US regarding poverty. Before the welfare programs came into existance, the number of people living below poverty was shrinking by 1% of the total population per year. Introducing the war on poverty caused stagnation, so their solution wasn't to take away these programs, but to continuously modify or expand them. You can see the results for yourself.

>so, Sup Forums
nobody cares about you sargon, trying to blame Sup Forums for some edgy redditors action? spoken like a true cuck

god these people who use historical figures as their avatars and pseudonyms really fucking gross me out. theyre such fucking cucks that they will neither show us their face nor their real name. that should show you what kind of person they are.

To be fair, he's done both. He just uses the avatar because he thinks his face looks like a potato.

To be unfair, his wife has a son and a daughter. He has a son.

Mighty strong words Ahmed

I don't need to see a face. Using an avatar is autistic as fuck.

also kek.

I agree. I am myself in favor of laissez-faire and decreased welfare programs. Regarding mass immigration, the damage is sadly already done. We Germans will have to mitigate the damage with huge investments in immigration programs. I might move to the US or Switzerland depending on the developments in the next years.

All socialist responses to your reasoning are of a moralistic humanist nature rather than practicality. I assume I don't have to spell those out.

mfw i botted the religion survey with tor voting christian

>I might move to the US or Switzerland.
Unsurprising. I know a few Germans (my wife even knows a tranny in Germany), and pretty much all of them want out. Only places I ever hear have nothing to do with the EU. Switzerland, Australia, and the US are the biggest contenders. Ditto for Britain. This is especially a prevalent mentality amongst non-traditional sexuality (gays/trannies) and Jews, from what I've read.

My high school history book tried to make it look like LBJ's war on poverty worked extremely well by basically curing out any statistics from before or after his Great Society shit.

Dunno when you graduated, but I'm guessing its after the federal government got its hands on public education. Used to be a state thing, although I'm sure some states would do the same thing.

Whenever you see a graph, you need to look at where it started, like that Obama unemployment graph. He took over at the height of the worst recession in almost a century. Of COURSE he would turn it around. That doesn't mean that he did a good job turning it around. He did such a piss poor job that they fudge the numbers, not counting the people who are able to work, but gave up looking or ran out of unemployment benefits.

>Sargon makes a thread on Sup Forums using a proxy telling everyone to ruin his survey
>No1 cares
>Video: NICE TRY POL LOOKS LIKE I WIN AGAIN

I can't wait for his next video where he makes fun of someone with a dumb opinion on Youtube whose channel only has 2k subs. Nice use of your 320k subscribers Quadroon of Akkad.

>sweden
>first world