RIP Macedonia?

This country is falling apart. USA and Russia are clashing in the Balkans again, Macedonia is the victim.

Realistically, this is even less country than a Kosovo, Kosovo at least is 90% Albanian.

There are riots, and there was a clash in parliament few days ago.

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theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/macedonia-parliament-zaev-nationalist-violence-eu-europe/524733/
bosanski-nacionalisti.org/bosniaks-faq.html
balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonia-pm-addresses-northern-macedonia
balkaninsight.com/en/article/bulgaria-says-no-to-name-northern-macedonia
youtube.com/watch?v=jOvg2SzxZJg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_me_liberty,_or_give_me_death!
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hang in there our brother in rising sun

can't wait to see it being split between albania and bulgaria

They're getting KAWAII'ED

nobody actually wants independent macedonia.
albanians want to split it, bulgarians take the slavic parts, greek nationalist see it as former greek lands, and serbs as origin of ancient serbia (capital of middle age serbia was in skopje)

if this shit really escalates bosnia's next, i don't even want to imagine it

Only your flag will continue to live forever in a place in the internet of Japan.

Finally.

This pathetic cyst has existed for far too long.

>greek nationalist see it as former greek lands
not really, we just want Constantinople and Smyrna desu

Orbán's wall will come in handy once again.

its just another useless slavic shithole

that's impossible

how do you greeks see this with erdogan, in bosnia they celebrated when he won on a referendum, since muslims there know only he can support them in case shit in bosnia escalates again

everything is fine

nothing is gonna happen

there will not be a civil war (sorry portu/spain bros)

albanians and macedonians live in peace here

we will join eu and nato within 5 years

we just have a problem with a few corrupt politicians which will be prosecuted in the following months

thats all

the balkans have been on eternal life support since the fall of the ottomans
literal tribal mentality infects the balkan mind

but croatia will help bosniaks again, like when serbs tried to remove them

I WILL BLOW MYSELF UP BEFORE GIVING SHIPTARS ONE CM OF LAND
THEY SHOULD ALL DIE

DEATH FOR MUSLIMS
GLORY TO EUROPE

This

Zaev will keep Peace and make Macedonia Great

turkey is dead

>we will join eu and nato within 5 years

nah, you were supposed to join NATO with croatia 10 years ago. You won't join NATO until you solve problems with all your neighbours. And that can't happen.

we must revive the byzantine empire, its our only hope

I don't think so. We've never had masked nationalistic mobs storming parliament and lynching minority politicians.

Macedonia is a powder keg.

Basically this.

Macedonia is already great because it is Greek.

can't the strongest in the balkans just chimpout and conquer the rest of them to end this cycle once and for all?

we dont want that landlocked piece of clay, bulgaria can have it

>let me tell you about your country

of course, serbs tried to take parts of croatia, couldn't let that happen

now, things are bit different, if bosnia starts falling apart, serbian and croatian parts will automatically join with mother countries. But question of borders would remain. That would make us enemies again

you could just revive yugoslavia and all your border problems will be solved

It is better to replace the slavic subhumans with animals.

>country

there's a problem with Macedonia, it's most unstable country in the Balkans. At least Bosnia is kept together by Croatia and Serbia, and EU

>we will join eu and nato within 5 years
>a good thing

yugo never worked, it would just freeze problems for some time
i think balkans can't be solved, since it's never left alone, some power always messes with balkans.

Left alone balkans would stabilize

Macedonia is a stable region in Greece.

>We've never had masked nationalistic mobs storming parliament and lynching minority politicians.
Minority as in nonwhites and stuff or minority groups?

No, "minority" as in Albanians are 40%+ of the population of FYROM.

That kind of "minority".

>german humour

theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/macedonia-parliament-zaev-nationalist-violence-eu-europe/524733/

oh boy here we go again... Guess where he is from...

I am a Greek

umm... Germany?

Wtf what savages. Are they third worlders or something.

Gruevskists are 4th worlders

What side?
Albanians or Bulgarians pretending they are Alexander the Great?

yeah, that identity building is really strong now in Macedonia
they refurbished Skopje to make it look more antique + they're renaming places + building statues of Alexander and Philip

Macedonians were shaped to Macedonian identity by communists, who also gave Muslims in Bosnia ethnicity, which is supposed to be separated from religious identity, but in reality, you can't be Bosnian if you aren't Muslim

WE WUZ ALEXANDER AND SHIT

Macedonians are Greeks

Greeks are Turks durrr

Macedonian ITT is a guy from FYROM

no
Greeks are Greeks
turks are subhumans

Walking around in Skopje would be cringe festival right about now.

I can already picture the big eyed tourist guides trying to convince the 10 yearly visitors to the country how fyromians are the sons and daughters of Alexander the great and then show some stone on the city flor where he could or could've not pissed on.

>who also gave Muslims in Bosnia ethnicity, which is supposed to be separated from religious identity, but in reality, you can't be Bosnian if you aren't Muslim
This fucking meme again
>Bosniaks are people live, mostly, in Bosnia. They belong to southern Slavic peoples, speak Bosnian language, which belong to Slavic group of languages. Bosniaks are the inhabitants of Bosnia for centuries, almost for thousand years.
>Unlike the Serbs and Croats, who have given the name to their lands by the name of people (so Serbia got name by Serbs, and Croatia by Croats), Bosniaks have got the name by the name of land – Bosnia. Bosnia is Illyrian word, Illyrians took that name from river Bosnia.

bosanski-nacionalisti.org/bosniaks-faq.html

Stop projecting you subhuman faggot

>coming from Portugal

You need to know something. I, and with certainty I can say many others, don't give a shit about Alexander. I don't give a shit about history, about the stupid statues about the stupid we wuzery.
I don't give a shit.
You can call me a Macedonian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Slav, I don't care about that either.
What I care is to make Albanians disappear one way or another. THIS is the most important thing. Nothing else.

Albanians won't disappear. They're expanding, that would be non-historical that expanding nation loses.

I expect Albania in natural borders, Albania + Kosovo + some kind of federated Macedonia (basically dual state) + what they can get in Montenegro in minority rights.

Bigger issue is can Macedonia ever function as a country? I doubt it, this is why I think Bosnia and Macedonia are destined for some kind of war, it simply can't be solved any other way.

Macedonians want to stay in Greece.

They can get that when you restore Serbian Krajina. Until then you can eat shit.

there are no Serbs in Croatia anymore though.4

that did solve problems, but you can't do that with Albanians.
Krajina is natural part of Croatia, it can't function separately, it chokes since it need to be part of Croatian infrastructure to survive. After 4 years it simply exhausted, enthusiasm dwindled and when Croatia did something decisive it fell apart as house of cards.

That can't happen with Albanians in Macedonia, since they're directly linked with Kosovo and Albania. They can't go away. Serbs could, only those directly linked with Serbian border stayed.

Macedonia needs to change its name to North Macedonia or something similar before they can join NATO. Otherwise Greece will reject it again.

North Macedonia is a part of Greece.

Macedonia is Bulgarian

Alexander is Greek.

Macedonia is Greek land

What else is to discuss?

>USA and Russia are clashing in the Balkans again
their issue has nothing to do with US/Russia
its entirely "internal"
none of this Soros shit

Macedonia is Greek
bulgaria is a filthy slav shithole

Change it to Vardarska.

>Russia supports one guy
>USA supports other guy
...

Greece actually suggested the name to them but they refused it.

there is absolutely no significance to this, these are internal issues primarily with minor international relevance
neither VMRO nor SDSM will alter EU or NATO ascension, they are both ostensibly Atlanticist puppets

difference is, VMRO, like Serbia's SRS, is prepared to disingenuously paint its Western benefactors as the real enemy to sublimate the antagonism of its ultra-nationalist base, because they're fucking morons who'll follow whoever screams "ALEXANDER" loudest.

And then they try to convince us that they don't care about we wuzzing...

Macedonia is Bulgarian you filthy roach

proofs?

Macedonia is Greek you slavshit

balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonia-pm-addresses-northern-macedonia

balkaninsight.com/en/article/bulgaria-says-no-to-name-northern-macedonia

very weak of Greece

It's the Romans and Ottomans fault for being lazy with their regions desu

that gif can destroy their whole meme nation

>Byzantines defined Macedonia as most of Thrace
What?

I am of Hellenic extraction

>Walking around in Skopje would be cringe festival

Nah it's normal

youtube.com/watch?v=jOvg2SzxZJg

They moved the Macedonian Theme because of Slavic invasions

Turkey vs Greece (again) who wins?

looks like a meme place like las vegas
show it at daylight or some of the rotting plastic buildings

Greece
turkey is dead

Just make another Alexander the Great, you macadamias.

...

Greeks seem to have a big navy, bigger than ours since the labour budget cuts which scrapped 6 destroyers and 3 frigates, although our stuff is bigger and more advanced.

Is Turkey vulnerable by sea?

why

do you

space your post

like this??

t. bin grieche

turks underestimate the kurds a lot
the capital of belgium is 25% muslim
1 in 4
is a muslim

Please god let the Alboos start a balkan war so that I can die without suicide.

wiki says their motto is
freedom or death
any other cunts have "death" in their motto?

Why would you die when you're over there..

They took it from Greeks.

sure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_me_liberty,_or_give_me_death!

slavshits took it from Greeks

Yes..

nothing of value was lost so no one gives a shit really

...

why so serious, sashko?

Byzantium is dead, but we survived. We won in the end, suck it greeks.

>I expect Albania in natural borders, Albania + Kosovo + some kind of federated Macedonia (basically dual state) + what they can get in Montenegro in minority rights.
>supporting subhumans in their creation of Greater Albania
you are either retarded or a shqiptar yourself, there's no other explanation
and also you don't know what you're talking about. NO ONE of their neighbors loves them, except maybe Montenegrins. so that fantasy would NEVER come true as long as we live here

great, more albanian refugees for us

the more they expand the more Albanians seem to flee it.

>greek nationalist see it as former greek lands
nope