/fmg/-Filmmaking General

Unofficial PROGRESS Edition

I'm finally getting started on my short film for Sundance Ignite, and I'm really happy with how the footage is looking so far. Also I learned that Magic Hour actually takes place AT sunset and not before as I'd been led to believe. Shooting this entire thing by myself, no other actors or anything.

Progress is being made and I feel excellent.

What sort of progress have you made on your work?

Other urls found in this thread:

filmmakeriq.com/
learnaboutfilm.com/
filmmakingessays.tumblr.com/
youtube.com/user/curtisjudd
linchpinseo.com/color-guide-designers
youtube.com/user/RJFilmSchool
youtube.com/user/DSLRguide/videos
archive.org/details/filmtechniqueact00pudo
cinema5d.com/film-color-schemes-cinematic-color-design/
docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh-fomKSuIEZ-GJo2tere4YMjsDvmmsuyiJKzQ-1ZRk/
imsdb.com/
screenwriting.info/
litreactor.com/columns/writing-powerful-descriptions
cdn.writershelpingwriters.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Active-Verbs-List.pdf
fountain.io/faq
story.adobe.com/
storywriter.amazon.com/
trelby.org/
writerduet.com/
celtx.com/
screencraft.org/screenwriting-contests/
tblaunchpad.com/
filmfreeway.com/
withoutabox.com/
mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com.au/
johnaugust.com/qanda/words-on-the-page
youtu.be/fAjKEgawVtE
youtube.com/watch?v=Dgje3PtoQXg
pastebin.com/y22WAjxt
believermag.com/issues/200409/?read=interview_meyer
youtube.com/watch?v=jjvmfY-S6Ow
youtube.com/watch?v=itWxXyCfW5s
johnkcurriculum.blogspot.com
discord.gg/Xwk6k
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

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I realize I made this thread too early.

Let's see that footage! Also, FUCK YEAH /fmg/!

Interned on two major (upwards of million dollars to about ten million) indie films this summer.

Now I'm back for my last year of university, trying to come up with an idea for my scholars project.

Glad to see /fmg/, but I wish you'd have combined it with /swg/.

I'm editing a short little bit of it right now, so I can get a better feel for what I'm doing and give y'all a look.

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Thanks man.

I'm gonna post a link in a little bit, this is just a test video and nothing in it is final.

Progress... hmm... progress.
Well I've decided to push back my PR campaign by a few weeks until I'm further into post-production, that way I won't be so stressed.

Priority now is shooting the 10 minutes of screentime I have left to go on my feature and pretty much rewriting the entire opening sequence.

Got a friend helping me get some shots in a couple of days, and then shooting again on the weekend.

Then I have to have my lead actor (me) get a haircut or something so they look about 2 years younger and shoot some VHS flashbacks.
Oh, which reminds me: I have to buy a USB to Analog interface.
Anyone got any suggestions?
My dream set up would be to feed a signal into a glitch box, and output that to S-VHS tape for double resolution of VHS, and then redigitize that video.
Or: maybe a Component 1080p output into a glitchbox, and then redigitize... thoughts?

Oh and btw. here's a ctrl+v of the links in the OP of the last thread just incase anyone wants
>Useful Resources: Filmmaking
filmmakeriq.com/
learnaboutfilm.com/
filmmakingessays.tumblr.com/
youtube.com/user/curtisjudd
linchpinseo.com/color-guide-designers
youtube.com/user/RJFilmSchool
youtube.com/user/DSLRguide/videos
archive.org/details/filmtechniqueact00pudo
cinema5d.com/film-color-schemes-cinematic-color-design/
docs.google.com/document/d/1Gh-fomKSuIEZ-GJo2tere4YMjsDvmmsuyiJKzQ-1ZRk/

>Useful Resources: Screenwriting
imsdb.com/
screenwriting.info/
litreactor.com/columns/writing-powerful-descriptions
cdn.writershelpingwriters.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Active-Verbs-List.pdf

>Free Screenwriting Software
fountain.io/faq
story.adobe.com/
storywriter.amazon.com/
trelby.org/
writerduet.com/
celtx.com/

>Active Contests
screencraft.org/screenwriting-contests/
tblaunchpad.com/
filmfreeway.com/

AND HERE'S MY OWN ADDITIONS
>One stop shop to submit to festivals
withoutabox.com/
Great educational resource on screenwriting
mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com.au/
johnaugust.com/qanda/words-on-the-page

Are there any guides on how to get started in acting? Are there any actors on here that can give some tips?

I've just cancelled a project because our cunty diva actress quit a couple of says ago, don't have the time to cast again, do rehearsals or any shit like that.

In the middle of production too, looking into theatre of cruelty atm, will experiment and report to Sup Forums with results.

You have to be REALLY GOOD at Meisner, fellatio, and Stanislavsky. Practice all three until perfectiojn.

>Fellatio
Kek

Anyway, here's the test footage.

Some things right off the bat that I plan on fixing:
>No sound beyond music
>first cut is weird as shit
>can't use licensed music (track is from In Bruges)
>some shots are a little too dark

FUCK FORGOT THE LINK

youtu.be/fAjKEgawVtE

You'll be disappointed, but it's right here
I'm also planning in on adding a voiceover describing why some souls are tethered to the mortal realm (because they have some unfinished business)

youtube.com/watch?v=Dgje3PtoQXg

I actually wrote a short 12 page guide a few years ago, perfect introduction for an actor stuck doing student films.
I should probably sell this shit, make a few passive $$ a year.

Been there man. People like that do not belong in the industry.
If they can't make the commitment, they shouldn't commit.

Why does Youtube place priority on loading preview images in the sidebar over actually loading the video content? This is a 35 second clip and every bit of extraneous fucking trash was loaded first before the actual clip was.

Is there an alternative to Youtube? I'm sick and tired of this corporate garbage. Selected all images with a mother fucking store front to post this, Jesus fucking Christ what kind of world are we living in?

Vimeo's for real professionals. As you could probably tell by the clip, I am not one of them, so I scrape by with JewTube.

>Interned on two major (upwards of million dollars to about ten million) indie films this summer
Oh shit, what was that like?

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Bumping this because I need some help with editing and file formats and all that good shit if any of you are out there.

Srry for the formatting m80

Hey, AMerican Ultra. Thought I was the only one that saw that.

I have two million dollars available to any user who posts a legitimately great idea as well as a youtube link showing that they are truly involved in creating the next big thing.

Ideas and youtube links ONLY in reply. Do not reply without a fully-formed idea as well as a youtube link, or I will fucking ignore you.

Walter Murch and Chris Cunningham fan here.

I was also the resident codes and tech nerd at film school. Watchu want brah?

*codecs

I'll just rattle them off, I guess. What are the key differences between file formats? I usually always export h.264 highest quality but that's just personal stuff. Eventually I want to make some feature stuff and I know I'll have to be working at a higher level. Same goes for sound design at home, how do you go about doing it at a professional level? And if you know anything about DCP's and making them at home that'd be sweet.

Never saw it, just saved the webm because it gives me wood.

I appreciate the apology.

>Walter Murch
Oh shit were you the dude that talked about sound design earlier?

I don't know much about DCP but nor do you have to at this point.

I'm going to assume you know nothing, so don't be offended if I go over some noob basic shit here, it's just so I don't leave anything out.

>1. Inter and Intraframe Codes
H264 is a MPEG4 compressor which means what it does is make little Frankenstein frames that capture the difference between a Keyframe and the interframes.

This is not what you want in editing, because it means the computer has to reconstruct each interframe when you scrub through, back and forth.
>Lag!

Intraframe compresses each frame independently. Not only does this mean better image quality, but it means you edit faster. It just takes more disk-space.

>2. Proxies
Generally what happens when you start an editing project you want to take all your source footage and transcode it into proxies, for example: if you have a AVCHD camera like a Panasonic GH3 or a Sony Alpha, that's a interframe, transcoding will convert it into an Intraframe.

>3. Codecs
Industry standards are Apple Pro-Res and DNxHD.
I'll upload a image in the next post showing what bitrates you want.

These are both intraframe codes, but that still means they are Lossy, remember that.

Your work flow should look like this:
Upload footage from camera -> Transcode to ProRess Proxies -> Edit.

Is any of this new to you?

Thank you so much for posting those links.

Only thing that is making me sad is that, no one is willing to hop on board and make some magic.

Why are there no good video essays on comedy and how to structure a joke?

So pic related is bitrrates.
For reference, Avatar was shot on HDCAM at 800mb/s
But that's because of all the VFX work they were doing.

Remember however, if you up bitrrates you aren't creating any more information, you're just preserving like a time-capsule the quality of the last stage. That's why it's so important to have the highest bitrate camera you can, and to immediately transcode that to you preferred finishing format.

You don't want to be transcoding more than once.

Potentially me.
I do love me sound mixing.

No worries.
There are a few anons working on shit.
And I mean films not scripts.
Myself included.

>Is any of this new to you?
Oh yeah, I've never done any transcoding at all but it sounds like it would make me life 100x easier. Had no idea what the difference between interframe and intraframe were either. So I assume if I'm working on a Windows machine, I should be transcoding everything to DNxHD? How does this process work?

why can't anyone read anymore?

Sup /fmg/,

I have a screenplay for a stop motion horror short that I would like some feedback on. It is a highly visual script with almost no dialogue so it doesn't come across that well in writing but whatever who cares.

The link (sorry if formatting is bad, I did my best in Pastebin): pastebin.com/y22WAjxt

I think I'll start shooting something by myself, after I write down my idea and how I want it.

Would it be a terrible idea to upload the finished film on a site to make a little extra cash? How does that go? (I know money isn't everything, but it be nice)

believermag.com/issues/200409/?read=interview_meyer
youtube.com/watch?v=jjvmfY-S6Ow
youtube.com/watch?v=itWxXyCfW5s

Calm down calm down. I was finding links.

DNxHD if you're working with AVID.
I personally work with DNxHD, because I must have looked at a side by side comparison with ProRes and decided I liked it better.
You'll have to either install ffmpeg or Quicktime either way.

...

I'd do it. You would get barely any money, but its nice to have your work where people can see it

What would be my best bet? Vimeo, YouTube? Or maybe another place? Hell I think I'd try submitting it to a festival.

Ok, so basically, start transcoding my stuff to either DNxHD or ProRes and try to keep bitrate as high as possible. Wasn't there an issue with Quicktime being installed on Windows computers recently? I uninstalled during that and haven't kept up with it since.

I usually work in AE and Premiere though, so I guess I should just go the ProRes route.

Like I said earlier Vimeo's the pro website.

Thank you, user. Do you have any links specifically on cringe comedy or cartoon comedy, like early SpongeBob or Looney Tunes?

Vimeo treats filmmakers better, but YouTube has a bigger audience and monetization, so you choose. As for film festivals, I would try submitting it to a free one to see if its good enough to spend submission fees on

>Would it be a terrible idea to upload the finished film on a site to make a little extra cash? How does that go? (I know money isn't everything, but it be nice)
Don't get your hopes up.

Look up some SVOD services, there are some which will like give you 60 cents out of a dollar for everytime someone downloads it. You might make all of $1.80!

However what you're talking about is pretty much what Jenny Marbles, Red Letter Media and all those Youtube stars do. They make their money through advertising obviously, which is a lot easier because people aren't going to pay to watch something random.

What you really need is to establish a following. You need to COURT your audience, MAKE a market for your film. That's the only way to do it nowadays.

Vimeo Pro like suggests.

johnkcurriculum.blogspot.com
and
Johnkstuff.blogspot.com

Someone pls read I need to know if my life is worth anything

>John K
I guessed I asked for that.

>pastebin.com/y22WAjxt
What does the ending mean, senpai? Suicide?

pls edit man come back

Say what you want about his cartoons.
It is the best and most exhaustive resource on classical animation techniques on the internet.
I mean also google Jerry Beck. Michael Sporn Animation.
And I think its' called "American Animation Archive" or something.

I wasn't looking for animation techniques though, I'm looking for comedy analysis.

>stop motion
GOOD FUCKING LUCK BREH

Nah but it's not great. First off "INT. NIGHT" tells us jack shit. Say "INT. APARTMENT. NIGHT".

The idea is kinda neat, and there's some cool shit you could do with visuals, but we don't have a reason to give a flying shit about the Protagonist so personally that turns me off. Then again Lights Out (the short) didn't give us reason to care and that still scared the fuck out of me.

Sure.

Was it good tho?

I have this feeling in the pit of my stomach that is pushing me to direct but I have writers block and can't come up with a script. I wanna kill myself

Thanks dawg

Honestly, any time I make it to the end of something somebody posts, it's gotta be good on some level.

But yeah, I liked it. I think other people would like it. Go for it.

Adapt something. Throw caution and licensing rights to the dogs and adapt some fun little short story or maybe like a creepypasta.

I know y'all probably need more but what could I improve on just based on what you see here?

That's not a bad idea actually. It would get his creative juice flowing.

I meant to quote you with this post

Fuck, you're difficult to please. Maybe if you could be a LIIIIIIITLE specific.

Google "John Cleese interview" and "Chuck Jones Interview" those two guys are the most analytical and structural comedy practitioners about.

Cleese will often reverse engineer each decision he makes in a sketch or a Fawlty Tower's premise, for example he would have preferred Sybil to be a larger woman because that implies a physical fear Basil has of her.

Chuck Jones will talk about how Jack Benny's postures are so iconic that just by mimicking his pose,or how he worked out the perfect number of gags per-reel, and criticizes New Hollywood filmmakers who "find it in the edit".

If they aren't what you're looking for, I'm afraid there is no book that can teach you how to be funny.

>I want to kill myself
>That's not a bad idea actually
kek

Death does tend to help with creativity

"Ego Death"

Only trough the murder of your own ego can a artist truly free their creativity from the bondage and imprisonment of self-censorship.

It be nice if all of us here got together and whipped out some wild shit and took festivals by storm.
>filming alone is going to feel weird

That'd be dope. I don't think there should be multiple writers/directors tho

>took festivals by storm.
That's why we need to coordinate festival strategy
>user, your film is a Horror: go to these festivals
>user, you did a metaphysical comedy, I just found out Roy Andersson is on the jury of this festival, that would really suite you

We need to discuss social media strategies.
We need to know what to put in a press kit, who a press kit is for.

We need to know how to generate Youtube views

We need to discuss how to pitch to newspapers and magazines
>Anons film will be showing at the Kino Theater on January 9th

We need to discuss generating buzz.

Shilling links for one another.

You like in NYC? If not come through. We'll shoot a guerilla style film. Cops don't give a fuck here.

How can you kill an ego?

What is ffmpeg?

I think we'd all need trips to make that completely successful.

This
Stuff is in place for me to direct and produce the stop motion short I posted earlier in the thread, so we could maybe try doing that once it gets finished

That be sick as fuck. Unfortunately I don't. I live in Toronto.

Also, someone should make a discord channel for filmmaking, and general Sup Forums discussion.

No?

I dunno... It was just bantz...

maybe LSD?

Not even. Just share knowledge, share trailers to your film
Have a "festival-core" diagram with tips on what to submit where.

What's discord?

That'd be pretty sweet. I'm just a shitty wannabe but I'd be down to join a group of likeminded anons trying to bring ideas to festivals.

Discord is like Skype for gamers, except better than Skype, Team Speak, Mumble or any other program similar to Skype.

If no one is afraid to talk on the mic. We can communicate way faster and actually share links in the chat within Discord. I just think it be nicer. But this thread is cool too. Just an idea.

Not the user you were talking to but the discord is a killer idea. I'd probably be down to join even though I haven't made anything yet.

I'm the one who was asking about transcoding a little bit ago.

A lot of grunt work, really. Did get to meet some high level talent, though.

I'm fairly certain the second film will be posted on here a lot.

discord.gg/Xwk6k

That's cool, man.

Any hints on what the film could be?

One features a late 2000s SNL dropout, the other features an actor with an extremely unique name

Is one of them Free Fire?

I found it right off the bat.

Brain on Fire.

Nah. I'll answer a few more questions, but I'd rather keep it vague since you could easily find me just from the movie title

Very, very close. But nope.

Sweet! I'll join after work tmr. Bed time for me. Nights! :3

What kind of cameras should I buy? I want to start shooting with two identical cameras

>buy

There's your first problem. Rent shit. Never buy.

I want to live in my studio and make movies forever though

If you're starting out it's important to buy a camera so you can become proficient in shooting. Once you have all the basics of exposure, framing, and whatnot, you can look into renting better camera packages, obviously while invested in a project.

How'd you get on that shit? Jew connections or dumb luck or what?

Dumb luck. I sent 40+ resumes to internship applications over a variety of entertainment career websites (especially entertainmentcareers.net). The first movie lead immediately into the second one, because the second was opening their production office on the same floor so they just took the interns from the first.

Well shit man. I'mma have to do that though I doubt I'm gonna find any shit in Indy.

Thanks tho

I dunno what they have out there, but the Greater New York City area is a goldmine for indie film. There's so many productions in film and tv going on in Brooklyn and Jersey

I feel like I haven't seen enough movies to have my own personal style, and I barely have any original ideas.
In fact, I only have one original idea, the only other idea I have is an adaptation.

>going on in Brooklyn
Go fuck yourself

What?

Fuuuuck me, it looks like there's jack shit around here. Literally one job and it's up in fucking Tipton.

Actually, not even a fucking job, some wannabe YouTuber needing a co-host. Fuck that shit.

I need a co-host