Not sure how many here are libertarians, but I've been watching their debates.. and while I definitely feel the Johnson...

Not sure how many here are libertarians, but I've been watching their debates.. and while I definitely feel the Johnson, the more I hear McAfee talk, the more I like him. Anyone else feel the same?

>lolbertarianism

No thanks

america was founded on libertarian ideals.

only true patriots support a libertarian future

In 1783 there were no shitskin hordes farting out billions of kids, in 1783 the balance of power between the west and the east was astronomically in favour of Europe and its colonies. In 1783 people actually were the welfare nets for their family, not the state. It's not 1783

>america was founded on libertarian ideals.

Yes, but only for white people.

>anti libertarian
>holding a gun

>libertarian system
>providing welfare
Topkek

Lolbertarianism is a fine fantasy for people who are already set for life, and stupid, childish pursuit for anyone who isn't.

>Only libertarian systems can have the right to bear arms
>Not understanding my post whatsoever

More typical lolbertarian autists spouting memes they don't understand

Yep I'm sold to John. He uses less buzzwords

Liking a guy is one thing.
This guy being able to govern is another.

libertarianism is a meme. we as humans are a social species. we absolutely strive for a strong authoritarian leader. we don't want to be independent because when times go bad we have no one to lean on for help. Libertarianism can only exist and be taken with any grain of salt when society is in extreme success and wealth which occurs from authoritarian practices. In fact libertarianism is self defeating because of the open borders policy. Poor 3rd worlders dont support libertarianism, they want free shit .

>in b4 i am a nationalist libertarian

Once you get sligghtly red pilled on racial realism you start to gravitate towards more government help to protect the race. You go from saying "whites can survive without government help" to "whites would thrive with governments help". You begin to want the government to solely help the white race which makes you no longer a libertarian.

>serial rapist
>user of every known drug and inventor of several more
>purported murderer and former armed international fugitive

Well he's got a better record than Hillary at least

>america was founded on libertarian ideals

topkek. we were extremely protectionist with trade from the start. being free trade would have resulted in the european companies completely undercutting us. Also the guy who wrote the pamphlet that convinced Americans to rebel against Britain, Thomas Paine, wrote another one advocating socialism.

No lolbertarian will win.

So why not throw away your vote on the most fun candidate in years. McAfee is insane, a drug user and a murderer.

Seems like the perfect candidate really.

Most lolbertarians think gun ownership can only be found in a weak government system. they must have failed in history because in Europe under kings and queens (totally opposite of anything libertarian) people not only had the right to arms but were encouraged to practice them in case of a foreign invasion.

you can have a protectionist libertarian society.

of course the libertarian ideal would be to have an entire world with open borders and free trade.

however, in reality you are not surrounded by other libertarian countries and therefore to survive must be protectionist, the advantage of a country like america is that it is big enough to be able to do so

I will acknowledge he is batshit crazy. Better than fucking Austin Petersen in any regard.

>protectionist libertarian society
So basically socially Libertarian but fiscally not libertarian. Thats basically late 1900s Democrats.

Back then, it worked. In todays climate, no fucking thank you. Shit like open borders would ruin the states.

It's beyond ridiculous to think there isn't a spectrum of libertarianism, and generally from what I can tell, the two I like most pose a *fairly* moderate form of it. Perhaps slightly unpalatable for the general public, but still a lot of good stuff that may wind up infiltrating this otherwise shit show of an election.

I dont get it, is this like, a presidential reality show?

For anyone who isn't a libertarian, yes.

not this time lolbertarians. vote trump, or be a fag.