ITT: Things Americans actually believe

ITT: Things Americans actually believe

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Lol what

Free kills don't kill

Free healthcare
>free healthcare for illegals only
Keep going

kill healthcare doesn't free
assault kills don't weapon

choice does in both situations

>He's doing a good job

Sup Forums used to be good

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the merchant is our greatest ally.

> he thinks healthcare is free
Socialism doesn't work.

What the fuck is an "assault" weapon?

wtf is this

An invented term by corrupt and idiotic politicians.

>i need 30+ round magazines to protect myself and my home

Fucking retarded, if they were really smart they'd give it a harsher name. If I'm trying to use a gun, it better be a Murder Weapon, cause i'm not just gonna be assaulting a fuck.

>the police are there to protect and serve the american people

>ITT: Pro-Gun Free Zone retards

No. No it didn't .

military weapons that are designed to kill and frequently used in school shootings

Except in every country that's not The Retarded State of America

>global warming isn't real

Countries that enacted strict controls over gun ownership saw drastic reductions in gun deaths.

Facts don't give a fuck about your politics . Please use your gun on yourself

everything congress does is for the good of the people

>frequently used in school shootings
So, small caliber hand guns?

That's not true. In my country of Canada, our GDP ratio four lowest healthcare spending province is 41%. Think about that. 41% of the provincial budgets (minimum, and the quality is complete ass) goes to healthcare. They force doctors to accept whatever rate they want to pay them (indentured servitude). The US has more cancer treatment patents every year than the rest of the world combined. They have the highest survival rate of every country in the world for cancer. The list goes on and on about the benefits of your system.

Countries with oceanic borders that strictly limit intake of weapons reduce gun deaths, and have minimal overall impact on violent crime.

>Let's make it against the law to own guns; it'll be the only law that criminals won't want to break, trust me guys

People still kill other people, guns or no guns. A gun is just a simple answer to a simple problem. Restricting firearms just means people move on to the next easiest thing to acquire and kill people with.

Before you know it, we'll have to show ID to buy plastic knives and forks like certain other countries.

Fuck "gun control." Go educate your people and stop pretending that tying their hands means they won't kick you with their feet.

>Cost of a gun in the USA, approx 1300.
>Same guns cost in Australia on the black market 34000 USD.
>Somehow autistic kids are supposed to get an illegal gun down at the docks
>"urr hey urr I'd like to buy a...."
>"fuck off"
>Every country that has gun laws has no mass shooting issue, and then the US.

Hmm.
Your figure sounds like utter bullshit.
I could not cooberate it from any legitimate online resource .

You're a lying fuckwit.
Unless you can cite your mf sources

I'm not talking about gun regulation in general retard I'm talking specifically about gun-free zones
Of course you need to make sure whoever is buying it has no suspicious background
That doesn't mean some piece of paper is gonna magically bar the shooter from coming into a gun free zone

>we can librate a country that's ruled by a dictator by destroying their country and stealing their resources

>you don't need to wash your ass with water after you shit

>My president isn't retarded because he can't unite a bunch of faggots it's the people who are retarded

>""""Poor Europeans xd"""""

>Haha Europe is fucked a small attack with 10 dead happened. Haha we don't even consider 10 dead an attack

>"Islamuropa" hahahahah they have 5% of Muslims hahahaha we have more than 20% that's increasing (because multi racial relations) of negroids xd Europe is doomed

>shootings will never happen if everyone is armed

Yep.

No being allowed to have a gun doesn't kill. This image is complete nonsense. An free health care isn't free dumbass.

ibtimes.com.au/cost-illegal-firearms-australia-has-skyrocketed-criminals-now-do-gun-sharing-1378871
>Here's prices for AK-47 on the Black Market
havocscope.com/black-market-prices/ak-47/
>US price for AK-47
gunbroker.com/AK-47/Browse.aspx?Keywords=AK47
>Prices have tripled
smh.com.au/business/world-business/black-market-guns-triple-in-price-20141013-115f08.html
>I give you one of my favorite pics as a consolation prize.

Retarded "thin end of wedge" illogical reasoning.

Name a single country that has enacted strict gun laws that have gone on to require ID for plastic knives and forks?

Retards gonna retards.
And those retards want guns

>2017
>Americucks still use this

None of those contain a 41% GDP on healthcare spending you fucking mongoloid.

Why is it always the most repugnant unrepentant retards that argue most vociferously for gun ownership?
Oh yeah, because they're scared little retards

So, you mean the UK? Where guns are tightly controlled and you have to be 18 to buy plastic knives?

You can't be this retarded.

The last bit is the only one i take issue with.

You have increasing maximum numbers, months go to 12, days go to 31, years go infinitely, but is generally written with a max of 99.

this is soooo true in poland
our "free" health care from taxes is soo shity and we have to wait soo long that people actualy die

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Its not about facts, its about freedom.

For under 18s
They were stabbing each other you see.

You see - see a problem - find a solution - problem solved.

Not - see a problem - deny it's a problem - problem gets worse - problem?

You can't be this retarded

>free health care exists in europe

I'm Australian and even i can say the only reason all of you hate america and pay them out is because their country is greater than yours and has achieved more lol.

>Tfw alt-right 4channers are probably marching for "muh white genocide" because they are falling for the "bbc Master race" and "white women prefer bbc" baits on Sup Forums

Freedom to be shot to death by a mentally retarded person ( because they have no access to health care but easy access to guns)

American Idiot

Oh, okay. So you're just a bad troll then. Move along.

Oh, thought you were responding to a different one. I'm anti gun ownership btw. If you looked at them you could see that.
>fraserinstitute.org/article/albertas-health-care-spending-is-unsustainable
>cihi.ca/en/health-spending add 11% of our countries GDP to the provinces spending
>cihi.ca/en/spending-and-health-workforce/spending/canadas-health-care-spending-growth-slows
My numbers we're off. It's 36.5% for BC, our lowest. You were right to question me.

Well, it may be retarded and arbitrary, but Americans can freely and easily use both. It's only the rest of the world that cannot figure both out.

>Parent of a child buys a gun
>Child uses gun
>Do we screen their children?

> Americans can freely and easily use both
Kek

This

Statistics prove this to be true...... but....

The deaths by gun that really causes the drop is by suicide. It barely ever reduces homicide by gun rates.

Logically, that means that law abiding citizens tend to give up their guns but the criminal element retains possession of them. You choose to look at only half of the information and draw your conclusion. That is faulty. You need to look at all relevant information if you wish to have an informed opinion about something.

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Here 's what conservatives believe:

Nothing is free, and that includes healthcare.
Freedom came, and still comes, at a cost such as the lives lost defending it.

It isn't entirely up to the others as much as it is up to ourselves to have freedom. That is why we Americans need guns.

Scratch out *the in that one sentence. Forgot too proof read.

>mfw neither side can see that they're being played by the global elite's social engineering
:(

>jew shit
>europe
>not realising america is the most jewish country on earth

This.

>nothing is free, and that includes healthcare

is this an observation of the current state of healthcare or a flat statement that healthcare is not free and nothing is free?

>Freedom came, and still comes, at a cost such as the lives lost defending it

there were wars, started by other nations, that threatened the existence of the USA. there is currently no such war. are you suggesting that we must go to war in order to claim freedom? please explain.

>It isn't entirely up to the others as much as it is up to ourselves to have freedom. That is why we Americans need guns.

freedom to do what? a lot of people I know that own guns never served in the military. and as far as I know, the only people who "fight for our freedom" are those who do so against foreign aggressors. anything domestic is simply crime.


maybe you can explain this position better, but as it stands it all sounds pretty arbitrary, user. healthcare isn't free because you say so, and freedom isn't free because you say so.

>1 shekel has been deposited into your PayPal

> >Americucks still use this
Almost every nation on Earth uses a mix of metric and traditional units.

>You have increasing maximum numbers, months go to 12, days go to 31, years go infinitely, but is generally written with a max of 99.
Eurodates are just as retarded as American dates.
Arabic numerals go big-to-little (thousands place, then hundreds, them tens, etc
Eurodates (dd-mm-yyyy) goes little-to-big (days then months then years) for groups of digits, but big-to-little for digits withi a group.

yyyy-mm-dd is the only reasonable system

I'm not the user you initially responded to but I can help a bit.

>nothing is free, and that includes healthcare

Everything has a cost. Training, pay, overhead etc. Free healthcare does indeed cost. It will cost in tax money that you pay. The bitch about this is mainly that we will provide health care to people who do not pay in. I believe most of the issue would go away if, in America, we had less illegal immigrants and free loading people on disability for being fat, lazy etc. Most people here do not want to help someone who is unwilling to help themselves. We're generally ok with helping people who are trying but struggling, but cannot stand the idea of helping someone who does nothing for themselves.

>Freedom came, and still comes, at a cost such as the lives lost defending it

Freedom is not represented only by outside threat. Freedom is the ability to make choices for yourself and not be forced into things by other. Read; a foreign power, your own government, a political party, your neighbor etc. In America, we have the second amendment simply to protect against the possible tyranny of our own government. And there is some basis in our need for that, because the War of Independence was over the tax rate and lack of parliamentary representation.

In our society, it is up to each person to ensure that they can respond to the need to fight for the freedom of our people against inside or outside threats. Our military generally handles the outside threat, but we are still expected to defend our territory if someone were to land on our soil.

Without weapons, we would be unable to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government.

Now... whether your average Joe would even recognize tyranny is a totally different discussion. We have guns because we SHOULD be smart enough to recognize it.

Makes zero sense.

What part of "nothing is free" do you not understand? If you're trying to get philosophical, then I'll break it down for you. If you want something free, you should want nothing, because only then would you have everything for free.

It's really simple though: nothing is free; everything takes work.

Also, there are people out there that do not like the way we Americans live, both domestically and internationally. There are people that would gladly harm us for many reasons. A burglar is a simple example. I'd be happy to shoot a burglar.

The world isn't all peace and love. It's messy; it's a jungle out there.

>If you want something free, you should want nothing, because only then would you have everything for free

>It's really simple though: nothing is free; everything takes work

individually, or as a society? or do you make a distinction between the two?

for example, what if we invent a robot that fix a lot of health issues? like in that movie, some sort of machine that can repair you? should people have to pay a lot of money to use it so the owner of the machine can make a huge profit? should people only pay what it takes to cover the cost of the machine? or should people not pay anything because the machine doesn't incur cost?

>Also, there are people out there that do not like the way we Americans live, both domestically and internationally. There are people that would gladly harm us for many reasons. A burglar is a simple example. I'd be happy to shoot a burglar.

again, I believe there is a difference between "crime" and "threats to our freedom." a burglar trying to invade your home to steal your stuff doesn't compare to Nazi Germany invading your country and toppling your government.

>The world isn't all peace and love. It's messy; it's a jungle out there

human violence is not an "act of God" like a hurricane or a flood. to just assume that things will always be dog-eat-dog is a defeatist attitude.

I could tell you so much but it's really up to you as an individual to understand what I say.

You also seems like you're on something like meth or adderall.

honestly, since you are not the same user, I'm only going to address part of your post.

>mainly that we will provide health care to people who do not pay in

please refer to my first question in >tyranny of our own government

if the standing military of the united states, to include all active members and members of all policing organizations, sided with the "tyrannical" government, would private ownership of weapons truly give the "people" a chance to stop the government? also, consider how many citizens would accept this tyranny over risking their lives to stop it. in this scenario, can you please demonstrate how private ownership of guns improves your chances?

>I could tell you so much but it's really up to you as an individual to understand what I say.

I sinceryly doubt that you could "tell" me anything, since most of what you would say is probably you just parroting something someone else told you.

I have been very clear with my questions, so I don't need you to "tell me so much" since I only need you to address my questions.

>You also seems like you're on something like meth or adderall.

pic related

We believe that healthcare shouldn't be handled by the government. It must be run by businesses who make profits from diseased people.

What drug did you take? You clearly have some sort of megalomania.

are you really giving up this quickly? also, I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Fundamental Capitalism

You got huge delusions of grandiosity.
You're also narcissistic.

You're not answering my question, what drug did you take?

*You're not answering my question: what drug did you take?

None.

You're not answering my question: what drug did you take?

People think about cost on an individual level. They do not want to foot the bill for another individual who is not willing to pay into the system. No one likes being the person at work who does most of the work while their coworkers play on their phones. It's the same principal with taxing us for socialized medicine.

If we were to invent a robot that could fix health issues, that might be a game changer. Though the capitalists would say that the inventor/manufacturers should continue to make money ad infinitum. The socialists would say that no one should have to pay for it ever. The middle ground might eventually end up more as a pay until the costs are recouped, but there is a strong argument against that as well. There are plenty of toll roads/bridges in the US that were set up and the promise was once they recouped the losses, the toll would go away, but it never did. Governments loathe losing an income source.

There are 320 million people in the US. Less than 2 million in the US military, including active reserves. Roughly another 2 million in the police forces across the US. There are an estimated 270 to 310 million privately owned firearms in the US. Pretty sure we have them grossly outnumbered.

You assume that private citizens would not accept the risk, but you also assume that every police officer and military member would side against them. You cannot legitimately assume both premises. The fact would be that many would not arm themselves and many in the armed forces and police forces would oppose the government. Regardless, the numbers would be overwhelmingly against the establishment.

>ITT: Things Americans actually believe

>USA is a democracy
>the civil war was about slavery
>the confederate flag is about heritage

You're either lying or you got some psychiatric problem.

>smh.com.au/business/world-business/black-market-guns-triple-in-price-20141013-115f08.html
well done, mate

>triggered amerifag defending retarded system

>freely and easily use both
articles.latimes.com/1999/oct/01/news/mn-17288

Literally LOLing

Yup. And I'm betting you've never made a math error. Glad you're going to solve all our math related enigmas for us over the next couple months. I eagerly await your name in the the scientific journals.

Of course, it was a stupid mistake, but we're human and we do that. If you are not from the US, what exactly has your people done in space? Did you guys land your Mars rover? What did your people contribute to the ISS? How is your Hubble doing? If your people DID get up the ISS, how did they get there?

We do make mistakes, but hey, we can function with both and you seem incapable of understanding them.

>muh guns kill people don't

kys

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>Freeeeeedom

Yes goyim theyre the jews

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It happens often. Especially in architecture.
The fact you said it is converted easily is patently false.

Also, protip, most of your NASA accomplishments were "stolen" achievements from foreign staff. If it weren't for tax breaks, you'd have nothing.
Just general inventions as well.

How's that shuttle working out for you btw?

What Amerifats believe...

>People think about cost on an individual level. They do not want to foot the bill for another individual who is not willing to pay into the system. No one likes being the person at work who does most of the work while their coworkers play on their phones. It's the same principal with taxing us for socialized medicine.

but with socialized medicine, it isn't just the "undeserving" that get the help. you, the taxpayer, also receive the medicine. while I agree with you that "nobody likes being the person at work who does most of the work [etc]" I also think that anyone who is being fairly compensated for their work should stop whining about what other people get. furthermore, in social medicine, BOTH parties receive healthcare and YOU the taxpayer receive money from the job you work, as well as (hopefully) a sense of satisfaction from being employed. before you being talking about "welfare" I want to preemptively point out that social welfare is largely a state issue, so it varies all over the US in terms of how strict it is.

>If we were to invent a robot that could fix health issues, that might be a game changer....[etc]

thanks for being honest and conceding the point, unlike the original guy I was talking to.

>the rest of your post

it is not an issue of numbers. these "militias" would not have access to a lot of resources that would be required to go toe-to-toe with the standing military of a tyrannical government.

so I want to ask, what constitutes a tyranny in your mind? you seem to imply that you don't think they would have the majority control of the military, nor would they command power among the majority of citizens.

>free health care kills assault weapons
>don't kill

Nigga I may be drunk but what the fuck did you say to me you little bitch

Vs. Reality

Well, it ran for 30 years and did 133 successful missions. I'd say it did a hell of a lot better than anything your country did. And I don't even need to know what country you are from; if you aren't from America, your country never ran anything in space that successful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Dornberger

Shut up.
He is the reason your NASA and precious space shuttle is even where it is today.

Gun nuts are so retarded.
>hurrhurr criminals break laws so laws shouldn't exist!

Yeah, let's make murder and theft legal because criminals murder and steal anyway!

and then my favorite part is, that people seem to think criminals manufacture their guns in underground gun labs.

the number one item that gets stolen in a home invasion is the guns. if the guns aren't available to the general population, it cuts off the supply to the criminals as well.