Spanking

ITT we discuss how removal of corporal punishment is best for society.

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The problem is that it isn't teaching you to fight back. If my parent tried to assault me all in the name of society's form of "discipline" then I should be able to shoot back at them and kill them, but in modern society that would be wrong, because fighting back against the enemy is wrong.

How messed up is that?

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>belting is assault i should kill them!
You are whats wrong with the white race.

wow the edge came quick

Hitting your kid shows a limited control of their behaviour, It's far more effective to just have rules and stick to them.
If the child doesn't follow the rules you do, and be consistent.
>kid doesnt want to eat a certain food you made
>too fucking bad, they have to sit there and eat it or go hungry. Sooner or later they'll want something to eat.

Are you fucking retarded?
>corporal punishment
Its known as parenting you fucking cuck. I'm guessing your 12 and your mad that daddy hit you for fighting with your little sister. Boo-Hoo. It's the only way to raise your children to not be little spoiled shits, and you know what? It worked for me. I'm not saying there are no limits or boundaries, slapping is fine but not punching. It turns to assault there, slapping is NOT assault. Ending my point; It's worked for hundreds of years and now we are becoming soft cucks.

Id say belting is very effective, setting rules and having real punishment for them is how to raise a kid, overly permissive parenting without fear breeds liberal pansies who think they deserve everything.

>If my parent tried to assault me all in the name of society's form of "discipline" then I should be able to shoot back at them and kill them

You have parents in Portugal

Corporal punishment should be light and always the last resort (ie you tried everything and he/she still continues and refuse to comply).

I may had maybe between 20-40 slaps in my whole childhood and I'm fine, maybe there are 4-5 which were too promptly given but I have never been brutalized and I'm doing fine.

The problem is libtards are zealots.
Physical pain is not absolute evil to teach, we all learnt by pain at a point so why that is morally wrong to learn by pain that other people have boundaries too ?

Anyway I still think you can raise most children spankfree but not every kid is the same, some are naturally flexible when other will push you to your limits.

There is no problem here. Parents are the same as filthy humans. They're not held on some special altar. Parents are stupid, poor, make mistakes, and evil all the while the intelligent child has to "deal" with the stupid parents because society tells you you're obligated to. Really... last I check society doesn't tolerate the stupid and evil so why should children have to tolerate stupid and evil parents?

Course, we could fix this by install things such as parenting license, but apparently that is evil and society thinks humanity will collapse if parents are regulated.

Dad never hit me

He took the belt and did that thing that made it make a loud noise, scared the living shit out of me. It's what I'm gonna do with my kids.

>while the intelligent child has to "deal" with the stupid parents
>intelligent child
>stupid parents
Oh. So you're one of "those" people.

when people say 'spanking', do they mean exactly like in the picture, spanking them for 10 minutes?
or just one strong slap in the butt?
cause if it's the latter, i do it often

Bring back work houses and extract something of value from prisoners instead of wasting money on them.

Spanking is a really basic parenting tool for extreme circumastances. There are kids that will naturally behave enough that you won't need it, and if you have those, you are blessed, but for most kids, you will need something like that a few times during their youth. Especially for single kids, you may be the only person in their life they will seriously recognize, siblings tend to teach social rules well enough to each other so you should need it less. There is a lot of stuff related to this, like the difference between letting a kid sit in the bus and standing next to it, or sitting yourself and then sitting the kid on your lap. These teach the child very different things, but you see lots of bad parents to the former every day, which is far more harmful.

It should also pertain to moral issues, such as breaking stuff for fun, being violent with weaker kids or pets, or theft. You don't spank your kid because they got a bad grade in school.

It should specifically executed so that it is uncomfortable and embarassing, but has no lasting effects and they forget about it tomorrow morning. The purpose of it isn't executing house justice, that would be counterproductive, since often time the kids will consider doing something to be worth the minor punishment, which is the lesson you don't want them to learn. The purpose is simulating life choices in a sandbox, thus preparing your kids for life.

You also shouldn't imagine that it's reliably possible to bring up any child to be well-behaved, since they will be spoiled by more distant family members, pick up bad habits from other kids, see things on TV or vidya while you are away, and so on. Do your earnest to set them up to be good people, but don't try too hard.

tl;dr as with many things in life, they are okay in moderation ad there is a time and place for them

Oh you almost had me but then you went completely overt
6/10 bait, consider revising the ending.

spare the rod. spoil the child.

Yes, I'm smarter than my parents. It doesn't mean I know everything, but there is no reason why anyone should be respecting someone dumber than you.

You don't respect niggers who go ooga booga and chimp out do you? It's no different.

the primary purpose of punishment as far as the law is concerned is to scare people away from committing crimes by setting an example.

Putting someone away for the rest of their life is is just a waste of space and resources.

I agree with you, user. Humans are fallible, so they should never have any authority over each other.

In fact, we should disband the institution of parenting altogether. Children should have the same rights as adults. Trying to teach them to walk and speak leads them down a specific pathway of life, and limits their options in the long run, taking up time that could be spent developing more useful skills, so basically it's literally rape.

Not an argument

That assumes intelligence is the only virtue,it isn't and if you had been at all intelligent you would know that you fucking loser

>Have a spanking fetish
>Parents only took away my toys and never spanked me

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like

Niggers, spics, sandniggers, yellow niggers, kikes, the poor, libtards, welfarefags, entitlementfags, oldfags, criminals, milennials, the "disabled", baby boomers, white traitors, religiousfags, degenerates, cowards, lgbt, have no virtues.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be any of that in the first place.

I'm fine with that, because unless humanity goes extinct then it is the path of honor and that is one of the virtues that the trash of society are missing.

I can give you a good spanking m8

>why should children have to tolerate stupid and evil parents?

Well aren't you a special little snowflake.

You dont even understand an idiomatic phrase. Christ you are fucking stupid,what metric were you using to measure your intelligence against your parents?

If you dont spank your kids, how could you teach them that there will always be punishments for bad behaviors?

And yes, in real life, when you have to deal with strangers, the punishments are much severe than spanking.

Vid related.

>webm
let me guess, brazil/mexico?

Spanking was becoming less popular by the end of the 19th century.
Any form of corporal punishment was associated with slavery.
So to beat your wife, child, soldiers, sailors, was to treat them like a slave.
Corporal punishment is demonstrative reasoning.
Some things aren't Up For Debate.
Corporal punishment is an efficient way to effect behavioral change.
Contrary to popular belief there were rules and regulations such as the rule of thumb.
Corporal punishment was replaced with other forms of Mind Control.
Michel Foucault discipline and punish is a prime example of how corporal punishment went out of fashion.
Parts of the removal of corporal punishment from the home is to usurp parental Authority.

>libtards are zealots
They're killing our society by raising their spawn without any sort of discipline.
I cant believe the chimp-tier kids I see in public sometimes. Screaming at their parents because they want a toy or some other useless item. The worst part is when their parents buckle and give the chimps what they want instead of a good smacking.

Dunno, but coincidentally, I just gave my 7 years old son a spank for bad behavior ( in fact, it was my wife asking me to spank him).

He obviously cried but then I showed him the webm and told him that in real life, other people wont just spank you like I did. He has stopped crying already.

How you raise kids doesn't matter for how they turn out and causing pain for no potential gain seems bad.

so don't spank.

Well considering my parents are disgusting immigrants that never assimilated into American culture. They still speak their filthy language. They have never worked, are on welfare and entitlement programs while mooching off the government because they have a "disability". They claimed they have ptsd and depression because of the Vietnam War. They're not married so they're co habitat so it doesn't look suspicious when the government sends their checks to the house and I'm sure my "dad" is an illegal or some green card fag who ever stayed because he always disappears when a government official comes to my house.

So yes they have no virtues so that automatically makes me better than my so called "parents".

You showed a 7 year old that webm?

Its the first lesson the kids should learn, that there will be consequences for every action. The trick is to know the kid's limits.

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My mom tried to do this but I ended up being a resentful bastard who eats like, 5 different foods.

But I do know how to cook for myself now, so that's a plus.

>how you raise your kids doesn't matter for how they turn out

Its not that I am FOR spanking. But what do you do when you tried everything else? These kids today are beyond spoiled, they straight up tell their parents no, they think they own everything, its ridiculous and all the parents do is say "Please no lets make a deal, I buy x and you be quiet" so they know to use bad behavior as a bargaining chip.

So an open hand isn't assault but a closed one is, no matter the force behind it?

Sound logic you have there.

Was never spanked growing up but every time I acted like a shithead either my mom or dad would slap me hard as fuck. Thank kek they did too

You sound like a bitch

Kek, sound logic user. What you eat doesn't matter either, may as well eat what you want which in your case is donkey cock.

Side effects:
Obedient children

first post shit post

fuking hell and they raised you despite all this? They seem pretty strong man

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Do you want me spanked?

Good post.
I have a daughter that sometimes push us to our limits. A little slap on the hand when she always touch something we forbid her is the thing that makes her stop.

Sometimes I just wonder, how can you do if you never ever slap a kid that doesn't listen (not everyday I mean, just on rare occasions), do you let him go without a punishment ?
I'm just affraid that the libtards pushing "no slap" rules are the same parents that let their kids do whatever the fuck they want at home.

Honestly spanking doesn't matter, what matters (for boys) is how much testosterone you get in the womb. Not enough and your son is a limp-wristed faggot, and just right and your son will be a obedient alpha male.

just slap him in the cheeks with enough force.

One thing I notice from my childhood is that, the kids that got spanked will be tougher, stronger and more confident that the kids that didnt get spanked. And the kids that didnt get spanked got bullied all the time in schools.

Don't worry about empathy or anything, teach them to cut off fingers for stealing.

child raising is 100% gentics, if your wife sleeps around and has nigger for a kid you might as well beat the kid.

My parents used to take away my toys or make me study extra on my work, which was honestly worse than being spanked. Having a small amount of pain over a long time is worse than having a larger amount of pain over a small time.
And my ass is really firm so it'd take a lot of force to spank anyways.

>What the fuck did you just ....etc. etc.

So you are also a welfare leech and a ward of the state.get out of this country anchor baby faggot

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If children don't learn at an early age that there are consequences for their actions they never will

So what is enough force? Do I leave a mark?

Can I use the same amount of force with a closed fist or is that now abuse for some reason while slapping isn't?

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the world could use a little less empathy

not an argument

You sound like a Muslim.

Do we need more Mohammed too?

This. What we need is a hard-headed, masculine sort of altruism.

I got spanked by my dad when I was a kid too. And he always said that if I didnt learn anything, other people could beat me to death for my behaviors.

In real life, other people wont beat you with compassion like your parents.

I think I've grown up fine.

But its a tradition here, every kid got spanked. And kids even brag about how hard their parents hit them. Getting spanked is like a honor for kids here. And the kids that dont get spanked are called faggots.

The trick is to not humiliate the kids.

>a fucking leaf
caucasian here. keep chugging trudeau cum you fucking faggot cuck

Absolutely fucking disgusting, but what's even more disturbing than the content itself, is how fragile the human body truly is. I mean just look at that little shit axe and how weak that curl was... and yet it was everything it took to mutilate someone for life.

if you've been into fights before, you would know how to hit with enough force.

There has been pretty extensive research on the matter.

Unrelated kids raided together turn out no more similar than completely unrelated people raised far apart. Twins raised in different families turn out just as similar to each other as of they had been raised together.

Genes>>>>>>parenting. It's the simple truth.

take your pills jonathan

If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame. But, if orders are clear and the soldiers nevertheless disobey, then it is the fault of their oficers.

>I'm just affraid that the libtards pushing "no slap" rules are the same parents that let their kids do whatever the fuck they want at home.

They don't, they simply let the nursemaid do it.
That's why most of liberal thinkers were delusional rich bourgeois, they never experienced everyday reality.

do you even have kids you faggot? i bet you don't but you criticize decisions people who actually have children make. literally bottom tier human

They didn't raised me. I got more education and how the world is through the internet. The "public schools" I'm just going to call them government schools since that is what they are and I saw how liberalism started to pollute those schools. Even in one time I ended up in a school literally full of niggers and I had one teacher that openly hated whites.

Luckily I didn't fall for any of that bullshit brain washing by the left where all they do is blame whites and that the minorities are just being oppressed and the poor are poor because the rich is keeping them down and other excuses the left loves to make for the trash of society.

I'm not. In fact, I purposely fucked up getting on disabilities that my evil parents tried to get me to do. Only reason I'm still around is to vote for Trump and to go out with honor while saluting Mister Trump, and while doing so draining my evil "parents" of money since they claim they spend over $300 a month due to my other use of electricity and food. They're not going to spend money on stupid shit like ipads and tvs.

Pretty obvious your a low test fag yourself so what do you know about raising a child? I have an 11 year old NY state wrestling champ who would no doubt fold your Minecraft playing alien twig body into thirds. He's gotten mouthy a couple times and a slap on cheek or a cuff to the back of the head clears it right up.

This is probably the most retarded shit I've ever read on Sup Forums.

I've been in a fight, never with a defenceless child though.

Glad you are proud of being hit your country really is successful with all that child abuse.

Fight me Trudeau

No.

We just need to remember how to use it properly. It's a critical tool and abandoning it during the last century is a major factor in what a shitty excuse for a civilization we are currently producing.

>it's a stefan thread

I'm against physical punishment, but saying you should never punish children at all? Come on, if you're acting like a spoiled cunt, you're going to your room.

This.

Spanking is not bad persay. But some kids don't respond to it well. It helps when the parent actually KNOWS their kid. Also being an actual parent helps do. Most people are just there for their kids when they fuck up. What's a big problem to me is kids that grow up with short fused parents that use spankings as a fix all for everything and then wonder why in 10-15 years their kids are hanging out with all the hood rat kids and dressing like a nigger.

When parents don't do their jobs to nurture as well as punish, kids grow up to be adults strictly interested in entertaining their base desires. They add nothing to human evolution.

Parenting isn't hard if you already had good upbringing.

>corporal punishment
Holy kek! Is the mainstream media your god or something?

Get a load of this guy
>he's LITERALLY retarded

Kek what is non physical punishment user?

at least we are not cucked.

spanking

reduces

your

childs

IQ

sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090924231749.htm

top kek, you're like that /k/ommando that showed his kid the executions videos of those russian soldiers in chechnya when the kid thought killing was fun in GTA

>im spending money you paid the government, im a loser with no job
>my parents are the leeches im one of the good guys
Kill yourself rat

Also a good point yes.

Still in my experience (because I don't know shit about other kids), my daughter only start to do stupid things when my wife and I are busy doing other stuffs and she is on her own (also, she is 2yr)
Young kid just needs attention, and good parenting.

>spanking
>child abuse
>pick one

You think the only forms of punishment is spanking and belting? Come on now.
You can take away things. No dessert, no TV, your grounded, have to do chores to make up for something, etc.

Correlation != causation. This is just an association. All this means is that dumb shitskins spank their children more. Which is true. I'm not defending spanking, but it does not cause your child to become dumber as a result.

nah, I spanked my son with a bamboo rod. Just 3 slashes to the butt.

But he then cried a lot then I showed him the vid to teach him that the punishments in real life are much more severe. Then I kissed him and my wife ( who asked me to spank him) just gave him an ice cream.

He's playing angry bird now.

The answer is clear...

Spanking with a reasonable, authoritative tone explain in stark terms the consequences of the childs actions and how they arrived to that point.
If they don't comply after the spanking, you put them in the corner for timeout so they face the wall. Kids hate just standing around not doing anything. You do that until they crack and apologize. I've broken just about every stubborn child with this. You have to beat the child at this game by being an adult. Its so simple

Nice source, sounds pretty vague.

That's actually fallacious also, because you're assuming upbringing to be purely a matter of teaching the child ethics. Of course you won't change the child's character, but you can shift it to be something more useful, aside of getting them to know more about the world as they set foot into it, so they can succeed with the tools that they have. There's also lots of small character-building things that require reflection, like teaching a hyperactive kid how to use their energy, and focus properly at least on the one thing that's before them.

The sitting-kid-on-bus thing I mentioned above is actually a psychological archetype. It brings up dicks. You can prevent this.

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My mother rarely 'smacked' me - she'd either hit me in the face with a stiletto or get one of her beta orbiters (read: losers she'd smoke pot with) to intimidate me via some pretty over-the-top shouting.

Unsurprisingly, as a grown man, I hold little respect for her, and would conclude that smacking is the lesser of many evils.

Sounds like a toddler just being a toddler. I've got two tots myself. Having two kids close in age also helps. I have a 3 year old son and 18 month old daughter. They entertain each other and watch out for each other. Its something I actively encourage. In fact, one of the only things that piss me off as a parent is when my kids fight.

I constantly preach about the family structure to my children. Its something that desperately needs a comeback in western society.