Why is Lennix Lewis always overlooked when people put together top 10 lists?

Why is Lennix Lewis always overlooked when people put together top 10 lists?

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Because he's not Pound for Pound Top 10.

That doesn't mean he wasn't an incredible Heavyweight though.

because people are morons.

lewis is without doubt a top 10 all-time heavy.

Cus he schooled Holyfield and Tyson

Why is Frank Bruno always overlooked when people put together top 10 lists?

Because he isn't American and everybody was still obsessed with Tyson

Leafs claim Lennox Lewis.

Best heavyweight of all time.

because he is a nigger

I would pick Lennox in his prime over any other heavyweight in history.

>le lanky ape man

Klitschko was beating his ass until he got injured

youtube.com/watch?v=WHRrK02ESF4

Lennox is the GOAT

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>three-time champion
>last undisputed champion
>one of the hardest hitting heavyweights ever
>technically only second to ali
>avenged every defeat

the GOAT

>beat Holyfield and Tyson past their primes
>admitted he just copied Holyfield to beat Tyson
>beat Vitaly because of a cut from a glove scrape in a dirty clinch punch
>said he'd be happy to do a rematch and "bring on his brother too" but then retired afterward
>among the first super heavyweights, had a significant weight, height, and reach advantage over most of his opponents. So he may owe his biggest victories to technically being a weight class above everyone more than technical skill

He did have a perfect career though. These aren't necessarily my views, just the reasons OP asked for.

super heavyweights have existed forever, Lewis was just the first one who was smart and truly loved fighting

Because he's not a football player, Duhh

Because he was an average boxer with no real opponents.

Heavyweights above 200 were pretty uncommon until Liston, and from Ali to Tyson and Holyfield they were usually around 220. Lewis' time was the beginning of 240-260 weigh ins.

>last undisputed champion
Unifying the belts became pretty irrelevant after WBO became a major title. It's too many mandatory defenses to be worth it. Wlad and Lewis both had 3 major titles titles, and Wlad neglected to get the WBC because Vitaly had it for most of his reign, so it's pretty trivia.

Delet this

This guy was dog shit when he fought Americans he got his ass kicked mike Tyson mAde him his bitch twice

who did he ever dodge?

Roy Jones.

Bruno wasn't great but he was very good. Won his word title vs an American and gave Tyson a good fight especially the first one not many boxers can say that.

Lennox isn't just top 10, he's number 1. If you take Lewis back in time he'd easily beat the golden era. He beat Vitali Klitschko when he was too fat and not the same as 97 Lewis.

The only heavyweight since Lewis who would have a chance of beating him is Tyson Fury because he's a lot taller with a 1 inch reach advantage and Lennox main asset was his jab.

seriously bruv?

Yeah. Lennox Lewis was bigger than most of his opponents. The Klitschkos wouldn't beat prime Lewis and they're the only names that have stood out since 2003.

No4 vs Bruno. Frank was shit and slow but my god could he take a kicking

was bruno ever knocked down? he always crops up in any heavyweight's youtube comps being pummelled but somehow staying on his feet. the guy was nails.

Let's go champ. Fond spot for this fight

youtube.com/watch?v=CxkjsX3ptW0

Lennox's uppercut is my all-time favourite punch. How Michael Grant still has a head I do not know.

he is overlooked because of homophobia

also glass jaw

>glass jaw

Not really. He took monster punches and kept going many times, when you're fighting super heavyweights anyone can go down. In the first Rahman fight he went to South Africa without leaving anytime to climatise, it was just down to bad preperation.

He's a giant
People want to see big guys be destroyers but he fought "cowardly"
that's why the British public didnt love him as much as you'd expect

Because even though people call Ali the GOAT they don't really like overly long armed jabbing super-heavies.

They prefer watching Joe Frazier/Mike Tyson/Frank Bruno types who are 6'0-6'2 and 220.

Boxing should probably think about making a super heavyweight division and making 200-249 "classical heavyweight"

>Lennox main asset was his jab

Except he was clearly outjabbed by Bruno, a shorter man with shorter reach.

That and the canadian accent and the fact he represented canada at the olympics

Yeah it happened a few times. He'd get hit with a good shot that rocked him but he'd somehow stay on his feet and just end up helpless getting a battering against the ropes and the ref would have no choice but to stop it. Would have been better just to go down and take the count to recover.

Yeah a 'classic heavyweight' division is a good idea because you can't rename the heavyweight division super heavyweight as it would be bad for marketing as you want the historical belt lineage from Ali to present.

David Haye might be a better boxer than Anthony Joshua but realistically he's not going to beat him.

I was in Barbados when Tyson beat the fuck out of him one of those times shit went from Irie to pissed off real quick once Bruno got pummeled like a bag of shit. Thought we were going to get jumped at the bar.

That was Bruno's last fight in 96. Tyson still had it then, Bruno just tried to clinch to survive the opening rounds.

bruno hurt him a little bit though.

Except Ollie Mccall and Hasim Rahman. I love Lennox, but I think he could be lazy. He looked like he enjoyed a good spliff every now and then.

Yeah man: he rocked Mike in the first round of their first bout. If I remember correctly, the Ref deducts a point from Bruno for holding when it was Tyson who was initiating it, as he always did, so he could reset in the peek-a-boo stance at mid-range.

ah, the classic if he hadn't have lost he'd have won response.

Because he probably thinks that this planet is flat.

redeemed both those wins McCall is a bit up in the air though thats not Lewis' fault

>David Haye might be a better boxer than Anthony Joshua but realistically he's not going to beat him
That's where you are wrong, Haye would destroy AJ

I think Haye made it easy for people to mock him for his performance against Wlad but ultimately he was up against an extremely good boxer who was also much taller and 30lbs of pure muscle bigger. Haye was by far the best boxer of his size in the world at the time but he'll run into the same problems against Joshua.

We don't know what Haye still has yet, and smashing Bellew won't tell us anything new. The Haye that retired in 2012 has a decent chance.

Agreed if Haye is anything like he was before he would be too fast for AJ in hand speed and movement. AJ is basically an even more hench version of Bruno

>number 1
>got KO'd by 2 journeymen
>besides his controversial win over vitali his best wins are against a past prime evander and a shot to shit tyson

Rahman was just because he didn't bother preparing he knocked him out in the rematch. He beat Tony Tucker when he had 1 defeat, TKO against Ruddock, beat prime Shannon Briggs, beat Ray Mercer, beat Golota when he was considered real competition and just a bit of a mad man. He would of beat prime Holyfield who was a cruiserweight. Nobody I would pick over him.

>Ali
>Joe Louis

Don't be a pleb

>controversial win over vitali
I'm fine! Honest!

>le losing the rounds and get lucky then duck the rematch man

good point, mate. i forgot about the all-important halfway-point judges' scorecards.

Lennox knew he would have lost, that's why he ducked the rematch despite bragging he'll beat him "again".

He was 38, and quite clearly past his best. What on earth could he have gained from a re-match?

And let's say they did fight again, and Lewis won. Then what? Years of Vladimir calling him out, and people saying Lewis is ducking him.

There is ALWAYS another fight to be made.

>Le boxing doesn't progress meme

Joe Louis was 6'2 and weighed 200 lbs he's not getting close to Lewis. Ali was also a man of his day.

If Lennox won the rematch then he would be respected and the ordeal wouldn't be controversial, instead he cowardly ducked Vitali after saying he would have a rematch.

Joe Louis and Ali had far better accomplishments, prime Ali was far more skillful and would have beaten a prime Lewis.

It wasn't controversial in the slightest.

He beat his challenger, then retired. It's only controversial if you wanted Lewis to lose.

Guaranfuckingteed you'd have been claiming he was ducking Vlad too.

Delusional. There's a difference between accomplisments in your era and who would win in an actual fight. Joe Louis was a cruiserweight by modern standards, he would get battered. Ali isn't seriously going to beat the modern day heavyweights. Athletes get better with time.

Yeah retired after confirming he would have a rematch.... which is ducking

I've been saying this in my past 3 post, can you actually read?

Read my post again, you fucking moron. This time concentrate on the words.

Joe Louis holds the most title defences at 25, that's accomplishing much more than Lewis. Also I never claimed he would beat Lewis

>Athletes get better with time.

There has been no heavyweight as skilled as Ali, the heavyweight division then was also the most competitive it's ever been.

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Ali schooling 6'6 Terrell

You're claiming it wasn't controversial when what Lewis did was, he bragged and welcomed a rematch with Vitali, Vitali was going to fight him but instead Vitali had to have a pointless eliminator bout with Kirk Johnson whom he KO'd in 2 rounds. Then after Lennox vacated his titles and retired.

If you don't think this is controversial then you are one special boi

What if he beat Bowe, Byrd, Ruiz and Wlad? Would he be considered the GOAT?

...

Vitali was better than Lennox, it was that cut that cost him.

He's an all time great, the fuck are you talking about OP?

Yeah the cut that opened up because the longer the fight went on the more Lewis kept landing. A fat 38 year old Lewis. Vitali blew it and faced hardly any legit competition.

Who did he ever fight(in their prime)?

>Why is Lennix Lewis always overlooked

Because he fought like a bitch...

Canadians never get any respect and I'm sick of it

Nigger was a 6'5" 245 pound heavyweight that fought defensively against dudes he had 6 inches of reach on and 20 pounds over.

He was a bitch.

That's because you're a bunch of bitches.

Lennox was British.

Probably because Lennix Lewis isn't a real person

>salty Tyson fanboys

I was never a huge fan because at that time the competition in the heavyweight division dropped off a cliff. Also he had a very boring, ranging style; Lots of jabs. His approach was to win the points, not to be tenacious, and knock people out. If you are old enough to remember, and aren't judging his career in 5 minute YouTube compilations it makes sense.

Lennox punching Vitali into a full on knockout and punching an eye till he can't go on are one in the same
being knocked out and being unable to continue because of opponent inflicted injury are not different
anyone who thinks otherwise is just butthurt that they didn't see a bloke hit the deck or a full fight

it's the same difference as someone winning the world cup by a goal line technology goal vs a blooter into the top corner
it's still a legit win but you're just mad because you didn't see something amazing

>"muh Joe Louis!"

youtube.com/watch?v=0LPddiQXD9c

It's literally one of the most controversial fights in boxing history you retard.

>Ali schooling 6'6 Terrell

And? Terrell sucks. Why don't you praise all the other fighters that beat Terrel? What about Povektin schooling 6'8" Wach? What about Haye schooling Valuev? Are Povektin and Haye ATG skilled HWs?

I love Ali but if he were alive today I would favor Usyk who is the same size as Ali over him.

Yh Danny Williams smashed Tyson to pieces though.

>b-but he was old then
Yh pipe down yanky

1. Ali
2. Lewis
3. Vitali
4. Louis
5. Foreman
6. Frazier
7. Hollyfield
8. Wlad
9. Johnson
10. Tyson

Because he never beat anyone good fighters in their prime. He beat an old Holyfield and a old Tyson. Where was Lewis during those guys prime?....The guy was a late bloomer or he simply was able to beat some old fuckers.

>Louis that low
>vitali and Tyson in top 10

I know you're trying but study your boxing a while longer before you post this garbage again.

Try watching the fight.
Lewis got dominated and basically lucked out to win. And instead of giving Vitali his rematch like he said he would, the fag just up and retired.

It's a good list, calm down.

It's really not though.

because everyone knows he lost to Worse Klitschko.

Also only (You)K fags like him

You have autism lol

>ITT: people forget that a prime Sonny Liston would beat any fighter put before him

That's because if they didn't take a dive the mafia would break their kneecaps.

He might not have been a heavyweight but i respect the hell out of Arturo Gatti.

Can't believe you left out Gene Tunney.

Lol prime Lewis KOs every heavyweight of all time bar none.